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Post Post #1286 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:59 pm

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This game ...

Skimmed through the pages. Here's what I thought:
-notty's initial gambit = town
-mollie vs curio is tvt. Mollie's rage doesnt look scum and neither does wisdom's response to that
-dream, mono, purple is slighish town because their resoning make sense
-bee is newb alright lol. Not too confident town or scum but he got some weird reasoning though that doesnt look coming from town
Dont like the Kagami wagon. Don't see any case on him. Votes going in too fast for the amount of reasoning provided.
VOTE: beebip
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:31 pm

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In post 1288, Jingle wrote:
In post 761, Kagami wrote:
In post 746, beeboy wrote:
Also if i am scum who would my partner(s) be


VOTE: beeboy


It's been said, but this is a shitty reason for a vote.

I think it's a good one. Who would be curious about their own partners except scum, who have partners?

NPIAU, why is Kagami town?


I didn't think Kagami was town, just not liking her wagon for the small amount of content actually on her. Your case is quite frankly a stretch, she's explained her vote on this post, which you conveniently left out.

In post 1293, pieguyn wrote:
In post 1286, nopointinactingup wrote:Dont like the Kagami wagon. Don't see any case on him. Votes going in too fast for the amount of reasoning provided.

why is the last sentence a valid reason for not liking a wagon?

Because that feels like a scum-motivated wagon, probably to direct attention away from Scum-beeboy, and scums don't need reason


also, I'm aware you were just skimming, but there was at least one case (albeit small) made on her, by myself: namely, her reasoning in 746 was way too easy, and I don't believe the best thing she could come up with is an associative before the flip that is ultimately null. it makes perfect sense for scum-Kagami, though. do you disagree with that, and what are your thoughts on Jingle's case?

I agree that associative before flip is non-sensical, but I don't agree that the people making those argument are necessarily scum. Why would you think so?

In post 1303, Kagami wrote:Why am I scum?

Holy shite, are you scum?

In post 1350, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1286, nopointinactingup wrote:This game ...

Skimmed through the pages. Here's what I thought:
-notty's initial gambit = town
-mollie vs curio is tvt. Mollie's rage doesnt look scum and neither does wisdom's response to that
-dream, mono, purple is slighish town because their resoning make sense
-bee is newb alright lol. Not too confident town or scum but he got
some weird reasoning though that doesnt look coming from town

Dont like the Kagami wagon. Don't see any case on him. Votes going in too fast for the amount of reasoning provided.
VOTE: beebip
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I'm glad ourple hero brought up this post. It's full of town reads and reasons for those reads but there's no reason given for the vote, nor are any scumreads listed.


Think you've failed to read my post.
I was skimming at the point so not a lot of scum-read came forward except Beeboy's. I saw in him the self awareness posts typical of scum. Take a look at all these posts
In post 177, beeboy wrote:@Ankamius care to explain your vote on me?

[quote="In post 746, beeboy"]Dream how do you expect people to lynch me if you dont say anything. Still waiting on nommynommers as well.

Also if i am scum who would my partner(s) be[/quote]
In post 225, beeboy wrote:Mollie thoughts on me - I have a slight town read on beeboy as his posts seem to be coming from a town perspective but a lot of his posts are completely useless which is why this isn't a solid town read.


In post 230, beeboy wrote:NomNommer since you brought up the question what are your thoughts on me?

In post 430, beeboy wrote:
In post 426, Dreams of an Absolution wrote:Ya om is scum. I am not rvsing

Beeboy is prob scum too


What makes you say that?

In post 444, beeboy wrote:What about my ISO is scummy? what about your scum read on om?


~ On page 58. Will read and post more after this
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:36 pm

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What's the case on Kagami again? Beside the case I've already responded to.
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:29 pm

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In post 1303, Kagami wrote:I'm town.

Why am I scum?


Honestly this is the only post which stood out as scummy, and added to the context it's not even that scummy. The fact that people are refusing to give the reason too leads me to believe this is a bad wagon.

I'm not really feeling Beeboy-scum anymore, so I could go for this
VOTE: Jingle
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:39 pm

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It's full of awesomeness
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:45 pm

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You think scum necessarily defends one another outrightly, and in a group?
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:52 pm

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That's a fallacy. Not to mention your case is depended upon Kagami flipping scum at all.
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:23 pm

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In post 2018, Curiosity wrote:
In post 2007, nopointinactingup wrote:The fact that people are refusing to give the reason too leads me to believe this is a bad wagon.


The reasons Kagami is scum have been explained lots of times. Stop pretending people have not given reasons to discredit the wagon.

~Wis


What's that? Easy vote? Jingle's bs case? Trying to scumhunt? Nah

If you're not able to point out a damning case, just admit it plz. You're the one pretending.

In post 2019, pieguyn wrote:hey NPIAU

you were clearly paying enough attention to the game to see there was a wagon on Kagami. moreover, I see you called the Jingle wagon a "wagon of awesomeness". is there any particular reason you would think this, given you supposedly were far enough behind to not post any reads?

Just the way he stretched Kagami's points think to make it look like he actually had a case. And I think it's town-driven


I'd also love to hear why you think this:


In post 2007, nopointinactingup wrote:The fact that people are refusing to give the reason too leads me to believe this is a bad wagon.

is a good reason for not liking a wagon.

Yes. Sketchy as fuck
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:38 pm

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Om is a gut town I did not mention yes. Don't really know who Ank is

I feel like the people on Kagami's wagon is pushing like mad fuck for her lynch and condemning anyone who thought otherwise as her scumbuddy. Is that sketchy enough?
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:49 pm

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Ok.

I'll go back and take a look at your points but some of them I didn't find necessarily find scummy skimming through the first time.
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:56 pm

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@Pie:
Not really. I feel that he's probing the game and his voting is consistent
Both. Mono, Wisdom and Mollie prolly misguided. Jingle and someone from the back end may be scum
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Post Post #2513 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:06 am

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Vote:Haj

The process from this post and this post to this hammer vote was so scummy I'm surprised no one even saw it. He just asked everyone to wagon himself, soft-defends the K-wagon, then take no action and stall for a while until the mislynch is complete. Jingle is still scummy but this is the gem shit
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Post Post #2556 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:07 am

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In post 2514, haj wrote:
nopointinactingup wrote:
Vote:Haj

The process from this post and this post to this hammer vote was so scummy I'm surprised no one even saw it. He just asked everyone to wagon himself, soft-defends the K-wagon, then take no action and stall for a while until the mislynch is complete. Jingle is still scummy but this is the gem shit


Tons of buzzwords. You also neglected pretty much every post I made between the ones you quoted which clearly stated that I was weary of the day and wanted some flip, any flip. Kagami's townflip makes Jakuzure's ISO much more lynchable now that we finally have a flip.

VOTE: Jakuzure Nonon

Now, this won't change until one of us is dead, nor will I produce any more relevant content until one of us is dead.


You seem to have given up right after the post, you didn't even try to derail the Kagami wagon in any posts after you said it was a bad wagon. I could see that you wanted a flip, but it's quite bad logic to want a flip on a wagon you didn't think would turn out to be scum. You actually had posts after that didn't remotely concern the Kagami wagon, which feels like you're coasting.
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Post Post #2568 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:22 am

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In post 2560, haj wrote:
Oh, shut up. She was getting lynched 100% and Nonon wasn't and you and I both know it. This is mudslinging of the most idiotic proportions.


Nonon wasn't, but it doesn't mean you couldn't have other scum read. It's the same with the 1v1 you're trying to impose today. My guest is you're either lazy town or coasting scum, both of which is sorely anti-town. What's your reads on other players?
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:20 pm

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UNVOTE: HajVOTE: Piedude
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Post Post #2913 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:07 am

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Unvote

Mass claim is fine for me btw. Beeboy's neighbor claim with Dan actually makes Beeboy pretty scummy. He apparent trusts Dan enough to call him town but shift the mason-gambit claim as Dan's idea and makes somewhat minimal efforts to defend Dan. I thought we was town by whatever *magic mason he posted before but now I have to re-evaluate that read. If there's a mason already, there's highly likely to be a scum among neighbor me thinks

My reads right now (in order from most to least)
Town: Pie, Curiosity, Dream, Dan, Mono, Om, Ank, mollie, Time
Nullish: Beast, alchemist, Jaku, Saki, purple, gaiden
Scum: Jingle, Haj, Beeboy

In post 2878, Curiosity wrote:Not agreeing with the Om wagon.

Also Ank is town.

Jingle still scum.

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The first time ever that I agree with this guys. Let's get this Jingle wagon going. It's long overdue
Vote:Jingle
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Post Post #2914 (isolation #16) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:10 am

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In post 2906, Dreams of an Absolution wrote:We can all lynch saki I'm sure nobody agrees he is town

In post 2900, Mononoke wrote:

It is not
Unvote
Vote: Saki

Sorry Saki but im not going to let you coast to endgame like Ikaruga again.


I think these are not a productive votes. We have a lot of scummy people today don't you think?
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:17 am

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Not the entire game, just today. Let him catch up/replace whatever
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Post Post #2921 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:22 am

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Purple, the fact that you disagree with me doesn't mean that I'm scum. I'm having a feeling you're breadcrumbing all these scumreads for future mislynch. You're not even voting me.
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Post Post #2926 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:27 am

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Haj is still on my scumlist but he's been lurking. How the hell am I supposed to gauge any useful info with him not even here?
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Post Post #2931 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:30 am

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In post 2928, pieguyn wrote:
In post 2926, nopointinactingup wrote:Haj is still on my scumlist but he's been lurking. How the hell am I supposed to gauge any useful info with him not even here?

er

you say this, but when we wagon Saki for being a giant lurkfuck you try to stop it. why?


Because anyone who's played with me would know that I hate inactive votes. If someone lurks, I'd rather find scum elsewhere.
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Post Post #2933 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:38 am

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Purple, unless you're saying something meaningful, do not expect me to reply
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Post Post #3393 (isolation #22) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:33 pm

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Supppp. Prod dodge
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