Open 575: Friends & Enemies-Together At Last (OVER)
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In post 925, Newbie wrote:Honestly, I think VD was willing to run up the time.
I agree with you and Mala with regards to this. The lack of reads / a defence seems to imply he just wanted to run out the counter to a NL.
I'm happy. I think we've lynched scum.- Newbie
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Confirmed newbie is scum with victor.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 897, Newbie wrote:In post 896, Mathdino wrote:In post 704, Newbie wrote:SCtH: I have to find strength to really read through his posts. I'll do his later.
Newbie, can you do this maybe now? Ish? You've given no reasons for the wagons you're willing to be on; I mean at least we have arguments from TTH and Riddleton.
If Const flips scum, I'm going to be a lil suspish here.
I think it's weird howapatheticVictor seems to be towards being almost lynched, especially when the deadline is almost here. I want to see what he has to say after reading up (I think there's enough time until the deadline for that.). I also think the case against him holds more ground than the case against Constantine.
I think it's weird how I asked you to look over Constantine's posts and you decided to talk about Victor instead.
I looked at your ISO and you've had 0 thoughts on Constantine this game. Do you plan on following through with reading through his posts?
At this point I'm just gonna ask you to read/skim my case, haha.- St Constantine the Hermit
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Possibly. That isn't my current theory though. Let's just focus on lynching VDA before accusing anyone of association.ShowAye, let old constantine spin ye a tale...
Book of Constantine (Protestant) 214: 112 - God hates you
Book of Constantine (Catholic) 214:112 - God doesn't like you
Book of Constantine (Orthodox) 214:112 - God tolerates you- St Constantine the Hermit
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At this point I'm just gonna ask you to read/skim my case, haha.
Your case is terrible.ShowAye, let old constantine spin ye a tale...
Book of Constantine (Protestant) 214: 112 - God hates you
Book of Constantine (Catholic) 214:112 - God doesn't like you
Book of Constantine (Orthodox) 214:112 - God tolerates you- Newbie
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I would love to know how you came to this conclusion.
In post 932, Mathdino wrote:
I think it's weird how I asked you to look over Constantine's posts and you decided to talk about Victor instead.
I looked at your ISO and you've had 0 thoughts on Constantine this game. Do you plan on following through with reading through his posts?
At this point I'm just gonna ask you to read/skim my case, haha.
I did read your case. It was good, but I thought that riddle's case against VD held more ground, coupled with VD's apathy (not to mention, Constantine was the one who went after VD), so VD was my preferable lynch.- Mathdino
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Thank you Newbie.
In post 892, Riddleton wrote:I'll check out your Constantine case now.
Riddleton, you also never followed through on this.- Newbie
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I guess this isn't getting answered, lol. I'm legitimately curious how I'm Victor's scum partner.- blindmewithscience
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Mala may have a point, if I'm putting on my "Victor-is-scum" glasses.
Here's an ISO of Victor and Newbie.
Note that they had 0 direct interaction, the only indirect interaction at the very start was Victor being all "Mathdino y u ask Newbie for meta". Now, Newbie didn't really do anything about that, but I can't blame her for that.
However, this is the first time Newbie references Victor. (#137) She claims she was suspicious of him in order to prove she's scumhunting to wgeurts, but this is only after the fact, and he's apparently fine in her book now.
#213, Victor agrees with Newbie. Admittedly not too major, but we're being exhaustive here.
#702, Newbie's reads list. To quote Newbie, "[Victor's] early questioning of mathdino was odd, but he had a good point." Eh, not terribly in depth but okay.
#825, BAM, Newbie is suddenly willing to lynch Victor without any explanation and while apparently townreading Victor. I said that one of Constantine's 'scumtells' (I'd prefer to call them scummy actions) is correct, and that's voting one way and reading another. Here's Newbie's votepost. No explanation.
#897, but wait, there's more! Newbie for the first time provides a reason to suspect Victor (while she's actually suspecting him)... except these reasons formulated when Victor posted after she voted. She provided a reason to keep her vote on him, but not why she voted him.
Newbie's presence on the Victor wagon is overall fairly suspicious and can very well be taken as bussing.- Mathdino
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Lastly, Newbie admits that Victor was likely to just run up the time, but still doesn't support Mala's hammering him. She seems so certain after her votepost that Victor's scum, but also very much wanting to give him a voice in the matter.- Newbie
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Eh. I thought it was obvious that my reason for voting Victor was because of the way he voted wgeurts with no real explanation. That's why I asked him for the reason, and why I agreed with riddleton's case against him that dealt heavily with that. It's also why I wanted him to read back.
Also, where did I say anywhere that I town read Victoraftermy reads list?- Mathdino
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Well you didn't post much after your reads list, except in defending yourself against my suspicions of said reads list. So nowhere, technically.
Occurs to me that the fact that of all game events occurring you only responded to direct questioning reads fairly defencive. You saying you'd be willing to lynch Victor/Riddleton was prompted by me. I'm not really sure what prompted the vote itself, but the way that page reads makes me think TTH convinced you to do it.
I just don't understand why you didn't vote him the moment I asked who you want to lynch.- Mathdino
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That made almost no sense. Revision:
Something occurred to me.
Many game events were occurring after your reads list.
Both your posts before your vote were directly prompted by me.
They had little to nothing to do with the rest of the things that were occurring.
This reads as strangely defencive.- Newbie
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In post 938, blindmewithscience wrote:Newbie, why didn't you post that observation regarding MAth's constantinte case and your comparison to Riddle's VDA case sometime earlier? Just curious why that observation/opinion wasn't relevant then.
I didn't think it was relevant at the moment. I wasn't taking my vote off of VD anytime soon anyway.
In post 942, Mathdino wrote:Well you didn't post much after your reads list, except in defending yourself against my suspicions of said reads list. So nowhere, technically.
Occurs to me that the fact that of all game events occurring you only responded to direct questioning reads fairly defencive. You saying you'd be willing to lynch Victor/Riddleton was prompted by me. I'm not really sure what prompted the vote itself, but the way that page reads makes me think TTH convinced you to do it.
I just don't understand why you didn't vote him the moment I asked who you want to lynch.
Fairly defensive? I just answered people's questions straightforwardly, no condescending tone or anything. Basically what I'm doing right now, lol. I wasn't even mad while answering them.
Many factors convinced me to vote VD. After I declared I would go back and read the thread and that I would look at VD, I did. I found it odd that he voted for wgeurts and gave no reason for it at all. We still have no reason for it now. That's why when I posted my reads, I asked him to tell his reason for the wgeurts vote. It's also why I wanted him to read up on the thread before Malakittens hammered him (I had a gut feeling he was stalling anyway, though.). Riddleton's case elaborated on it further and his other points were good as well. After that, I noticed that it seemed some people were throwing out other names (riddleton and Constantine for example) to get away from the VD lynch. That further cemented my suspicion. (Although, this post was a bit suspicious, which is why I was willing to lynch either VD or riddle, but the circumstances around VD seemed more damning.)- Malakittens
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These are gun to my head type reads:
I'll explain further if I'm alive in D2.
Wisdom - null, but had to guess maaaaaaaaaaybe town
FinnLaw DukeC - prob town
wgeurts - likely town
St. Constantine The HermitThe Undertaker - was leaning town, but could be scum
Newbie - Gutscum
Malakittens - town
Riddleton SilverWolf - Leaning scum maybe~
Not_Mafia - Prob town
TellTaleHeart - prob town
VictorDeAngelo - Dead, but likely scum.
Mathdino - was leaning town, but that overreaction. I will mull that over after VDA's flip
blindmewithscience - likely town
acryon - prob scum
No, I don't want to explain my reads further, I'm in this ball of rage at the moment.
Although if Victor is scum, then Riddleton is prob town.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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