Mini 1619 - Antihero: REDEMPTION [GAME OVER]

[Anatole Kuragin]

hey guys

[Anatole Kuragin]

Here we go again.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Anatole apparently feels I tunnel him or something (even though we've only played together where I caught him as scum in Mountainous and didn't ever push him in ACM as Town, so...).

It was more of a, "Whelp, another game of mafia!"

[Anatole Kuragin]

do you think it's indicative of anything that he implies you're picking on him here?

p-edit: so it had nothing to do with TSO's vote at all?

p-edit: yall are acting kinda weird with each other.

I've probably played more games with TSO than anyone else at this point so I'm probably going to be weird towards him for the rest of the game as well

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: Lying Cat

[Anatole Kuragin]

wtf bertrand no hello for the tolemeister

[Anatole Kuragin]

anything for you, tso

also, that nickname is pretty goofy

It's funny you should use the term goofy because when I say "tolemeister" in my head it's the voice of Pauly Shore's character in

A Goofy Movie

.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think Lying Cat is scum, yall

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm from the south yall

[Anatole Kuragin]

Winnie the Pooh isn't an antihero though, Yogi the Bear would have been better

[Anatole Kuragin]

Antihero is totally Winnie the Pooh, yall.

In other news, mollie hasn't reached out to anyone yet, and Majiffy is badvoting. I do not approve of this.

And you have an RVS vote and also haven't done anything. What's your point?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I wasn't asking the Jiffster

[Anatole Kuragin]

That's

sooo

Majiffy

[Anatole Kuragin]

can we not make hydra breaking a habit in this game, speaking of things that drain interest/momentum

[Anatole Kuragin]

Lying cat can you look at #138

[Anatole Kuragin]

I have my hydra buddy's RVS vote, and I'm working on that. Now shush, I'm engaging mollie.

I can't talk to you while you're engaging Mollie?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Well, you can. And you are. I'm just not sure what you're trying to do.

Just trying to figure out why your slot was so concerned about people goofing off early in the game while you were doing the same thing.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You people are throwing out townreads like they're junebugs on your screendoor.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You people are throwing out townreads like they're junebugs on your screendoor.

And this bothers you?

Yeah I think you guys are probably putting on blinders based on meta and sweet talking.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Not going to assert a player is town based on meaningless RVS interactions that can be easily faked, so no, I'm still working on that.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Not going to assert a player is town based on meaningless RVS interactions that can be easily faked, so no, I'm still working on that.

So then who do you think is scum?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anatole Kuragin]

if anyone knows any good home remedies for wasp stings, i would much appreciate them.

also, doing a vote count.

Remove the stinger with tweezers, don't pinch it. Put vinegar on the affected area.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Not going to assert a player is town based on meaningless RVS interactions that can be easily faked, so no, I'm still working on that.

So then who do you think is scum?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Do you think ANYthing??

I'll let you know when I've got something to dish.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'll let you know when I've got something to dish.

So you have no town reads at all, not even slight ones.
You have no scumreads at all, not even slight ones.
You don't think anything at all "yet".

What exactly are you doing then....?

Not risking giving scum townreads because I like a few random posts that are completely alignment-neutral. Unlike most of the players here are doing.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't want to ever be endgamed.

It's never happened yet because I don't just throw my trust around.

[Anatole Kuragin]

"What are you doing?"

Not risking giving scum townreads

What part are you having trouble with? It's a cheeky answer because a more direct answer would obviously be "reading the game and talking to other players." I didn't say that because it's very clear that that is happening yet you still asked what I was doing. As if a player isn't playing the game if they're not broadcasting bad reads.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't know why you just posted that again.

[Anatole Kuragin]

It's not what scum do with townreads, it's what townies do with townreads. You townread a scum based on nothing and they slip by your radar. We lynch townies because of a lynch pool narrowed by "lol had fun in that game with you." (this is a hypothetical example on par with some of the reads expressed in this game)

I honestly don't understand what you're finding insulting or why you're upset. You asked "what are you doing?" when I'm clearly trying to discuss the game with other players and figure out reads instead of just making them up. I don't know how else I could have responded to that question other than pointing out the obvious (that that was what I was doing).

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think scum will get townreads based on pointless shit and coast. It's not that fucking farfetched

[Anatole Kuragin]

From your join date, I am only assuming that you know how to play. From your attitude, I get the feeling you think everyone else here is an idiot. They aren't, and neither am I.

ETL

I'm not saying that. I implied the answer to your question was clear and that I'd like people to be more diligent with their townreads.

That's it.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You can use tweezers for the thin, easily manipulated edge without pinching.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I would like to lynch Lying Cat.

[Anatole Kuragin]

i would like a million dollars, a crossbow, a cheeseburger with fries and intimate time with Samantha Barks.

I do love "On My Own." But I'd prefer dead cat in this scenario.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Mollie, why am I voting you?

Are you scum?

while you are doing the same thing.

FTFY

I'm a bit of a troll, but I put some content in the middle.

Also, ETL, I am Jingle. I am townreading you. I'm not trying to butter you up (right now).

I agree with mastin on youtown. I'm not gonna fakeclaim masons for you anytime soon, though, so there's room for improvement.

Not interested in {GG, TSO, Ward, mollie, Anatole, mastin} right now.

Interested in discussing {Guy, Jiffy, MS}

I need to outsource my Bert read.

I want notty and beast to spam this shit up.

These posts in particular gave me an unnatural vibe.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Forced, careful, unnatural

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think GG and LC are both scum.

[Anatole Kuragin]

So you think from GG's reaction that she is unequivocally town?

[Anatole Kuragin]

wasn't asking you

[Anatole Kuragin]

mollie, GG just used a really intuitive way of addressing people, it's who is voting, not the votee

[Anatole Kuragin]

and by intuitive I mean confusing and ambiguous

[Anatole Kuragin]

Vote Count 1.4

Lying Cat - 2 (Anatole Kuragin, Metal Sonic)

Anatole - why? I asked you before and you still never answered.

Not only did I answer, but you responded to it.

What are you talking about?

[Anatole Kuragin]

OH the forced thing. yeah is that the only thing? because that's not enough. i thought there was something else......

Please explain why your current scumread is more substantial and "enough."

[Anatole Kuragin]

But you unvoted MS

[Anatole Kuragin]

So you're not voting your current scumread.

[Anatole Kuragin]

So you're not voting your current scumread.

So? Am I not allowed to move my vote?

Why would you move your vote from a scumread? Especially one that you feel has "enough" evidence against them.

[Anatole Kuragin]

So you don't have a scumread more substantial than mine.

[Anatole Kuragin]

That's a wagon I could get behind.

[Anatole Kuragin]

That's a wagon I could get behind.

Then do it.

come on anatole. you've been angling to vote me for pages and pages.

fucking do it. then ms can hop back on and we'll have a party.

and then i'll flip town and you'll look like a fucking douche.

i'm ok with that.

let's go.

yeah I guess saying "I think GG is scum is angling to vote"

[Anatole Kuragin]

"I think GG is scum" is angling to vote*

[Anatole Kuragin]

Because I think LC is scum too

[Anatole Kuragin]

or you can admit that you're playing poorly and getting lynched for it and should only be angry with yourself

[Anatole Kuragin]

ETL, Your reads have nothing to do with your inexplicable voting, your redundant questioning seemingly going nowhere, your random defense of players, and the fact that you're freaking the fuck out about three votes.

[Anatole Kuragin]

maybe you should replace out instead of rage suiciding?

[Anatole Kuragin]

ETL, (if you're telling the truth) you're willing to let your ego ruin the game for 12 other people?

[Anatole Kuragin]

A townie self-voting with 3 votes on them day one is deliberately sabotaging the game because their pride is damaged. There is no strategy or scumhunting motivation in it. It's just ragequitting in the most detrimental way possible

[Anatole Kuragin]

GG, you don't ever misread and defend or attack friends who end up being town?

[Anatole Kuragin]

misread and defend scum* or attack friends who are town*

[Anatole Kuragin]

I am voting

[Anatole Kuragin]

Is that the extent of your case against me?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Are you? On LC? Thats a stupid vote

Not as stupid as yours on me.

[Anatole Kuragin]

guyett what happened to the good old days when you would submit my alien mass redirection action because I was passed out drunk somewhere forgetting to do it?

[Anatole Kuragin]

jiff have you checked out the new radio stations on google play? I think we all need to chill to the "Happy in the alt-rock 90s" station for a while and re-assess our emotions in a way only shitty alt-rock can facilitate

[Anatole Kuragin]

[Anatole Kuragin]

I thought she was scum before the meltdown and now I just don't want to interact with them at all regardless of alignment. If that was a scum tactic it's pathetic and shameful and if the temper tantrum was genuine and they're that upset about such minor bullshit I just don't want any part of working with them.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm not trying to be insensitive or make it worse, but that's honestly the most reasonable way I can respond to behavior like that in a GAME among adults.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Has AP posted as GG the past two days?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I knew the bulk is ETL at least, just wondering if he's around as well

[Anatole Kuragin]

Yeah, my scumpool remains {LC, GG, Jiffy, Bert}.

Night all.

I agree with this lynchpool.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Guyett I will tutor you in mafia, PM me after game

[Anatole Kuragin]

whatup flubbster

[Anatole Kuragin]

drunkpost:

Anti I'm typically V/LA on the weekends

[Anatole Kuragin]

Flubber is always weird. I've got a few games finished with him and he's an enigma wrapped in a riddle.

Let's lynch LC

[Anatole Kuragin]

Do yall ever just have those days where you listen to "Nothing Compares 2 U" on repeat?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Right now I don't like LC, NS, and GG. probably in that order

[Anatole Kuragin]

Flubbzilla, Beastie boy, what are your thoughts on LC?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't think GG is scum but I don't disagree with the others.

Bert what are you thinking about the game atm

Are you still scumreading me?

I'm still not sure what it was about Bert that I liked

These look scummy. I've never played with NS though.

[Anatole Kuragin]

He's trying to avoid giving any concrete reads, whether it's by giving weak reads (bert, GG) or by asking others to do the work for him.

These are also signs of a player just not giving a shit though.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You've had like 10-12 posts of just fluff since you gave those townreads and I don't see any convincing reasoning for any of them. I can throw out names too, doesn't mean it's useful.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Maybe it's because I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm right

hmm?

I'm more concerned with you convincing yourself of those reads and how you did it.

Will you vote LC?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm a huge proponent for fluff posting, but sometimes fluff is fluff and sometimes fluff is filler and you fill with fluff n stuff.

[Anatole Kuragin]

mastin hasn't done anything telling to me

[Anatole Kuragin]

Flubber is always weird. I've got a few games finished with him and he's an enigma wrapped in a riddle.

Let's lynch LC

So you don't have any intentions to ever sort him this game?

What part of my comment implies that at all?

[Anatole Kuragin]

The bit where the fence penetrates your arse

That means a lot from you considering you're not voting anyone and I'm leading a wagon on scum.

[Anatole Kuragin]

The bit where the fence penetrates your arse

That means a lot from you considering you're not voting anyone and I'm leading a wagon on scum.

But, here's the thing: that point has literally

no

relevance to your read on Flubber. None. That's called a discredit, Tolemeister.

Literally all I said was the dude is weird.

What the fuck are yall even talking about

[Anatole Kuragin]

The bit where the fence penetrates your arse

That means a lot from you considering you're not voting anyone and I'm leading a wagon on scum.

Don't talk about ongoing games, cause that sure as hell isn't happening here.

For the record, this is exactly the same as what NS said

[Anatole Kuragin]

to GG ^

[Anatole Kuragin]

No, you didn't.

AK: Flubber is weird. Insert fencesit. Finish fencesit.
GG: Do you ever plan to sort their read?
AK: When did I ever say I didn't?
TSO: When you were fencesitting.
AK: You've got no vote on anyone, therefore your opinion is invalid.
TSO: If only that was relevant.
AK: What's going on again?

Yeah I also like to make up imaginary shit when I can't deal with real life

[Anatole Kuragin]

No, you didn't.

AK: Flubber is weird. Insert fencesit. Finish fencesit.
GG: Do you ever plan to sort their read?
AK: When did I ever say I didn't?
TSO: When you were fencesitting.
AK: You've got no vote on anyone, therefore your opinion is invalid.
TSO: If only that was relevant.
AK: What's going on again?

Yeah I also like to make up imaginary shit when I can't deal with real life

like, I seriously can't even address this in a serious manner to this TSO because you seriously just made it all up

[Anatole Kuragin]

No, you didn't.

AK: Flubber is weird. Insert fencesit. Finish fencesit.
GG: Do you ever plan to sort their read?
AK: When did I ever say I didn't?
TSO: When you were fencesitting.
AK: You've got no vote on anyone, therefore your opinion is invalid.
TSO: If only that was relevant.
AK: What's going on again?

Yeah I also like to make up imaginary shit when I can't deal with real life

like, I seriously can't even address this in a serious manner to this TSO because you seriously just made it all up

my brain is falling apart from how dumb this is TSO

[Anatole Kuragin]

The bit where the fence penetrates your arse

That means a lot from you considering you're not voting anyone and I'm leading a wagon on scum.

Don't talk about ongoing games, cause that sure as hell isn't happening here.

For the record, this is exactly the same as what NS said

Not to talk about ongoing games? So? I tell peope not to talk about ongoing games exactly every time they talk about ongoing games.

I'm guessing you didn't actually read what you quoted

[Anatole Kuragin]

So what you're saying is, you'll vote people who think you're scum

[Anatole Kuragin]

You can't deny the truth behind my statement though AP

pedit-

wait what did I say involvin ongoing games wat

LC said I must be talking about a different game if I was calling him scum

you said something similar and GG found that scummy

[Anatole Kuragin]

TSO, someone said "flubber is weird"

I said "he's always weird"

where is the fence sit?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I can't townread majiffy until he rage hammers himself, tbh

[Anatole Kuragin]

TSO, someone said "flubber is weird"

I said "he's always weird"

where is the fence sit?

this point changes the first line a little and

everything else is the exact same

I honestly don't understand what you're talking about

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: Guilty Gunsmith

[Anatole Kuragin]

ETL, where is the flubber scumread coming from?

[Anatole Kuragin]

why are you scumreading flubber etl?

[Anatole Kuragin]

flubber read is mostly based on his position on the ms wagon, which has not yet fucking flipped

You said this. That does not explain why you are scumreading Flubber. It explains why you are almost scumreading him? I think?

Don't complain when I ask for clarification when you couldn't be arsed to put a coherent sentence together.

[Anatole Kuragin]

oh fuck you. what the fuck do you care? you are voting me anyway so you obviously think i'm scum, so what does my opinion fucking matter?

also also don't forget that jiffy and mollie - who i have been WAITING for them to actually get into it and interact have done fuck all regarding each other. they aren't interested in reading each other at all because they are on the same goddamn team.

true, why bother trying to talk to you if you're going to react to everything like a pissed off 8 year old

[Anatole Kuragin]

I am town with a question mark

What does that mean?

[Anatole Kuragin]

the biggest question mark to me right now is wtf does idrm mean

[Anatole Kuragin]

Mastin I think you may be town but our reads are completely incompatible

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm just sitting here

in awe people are actually townreading me

how many times do you have to say this? is it a posting restriction you have that you have to say "i cant believe I'm being townread" a hundred times day one?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Town: Mastin, Guyett, Mollie, BeastBlastoise
Gut town, fuck it: TSO, NS
Meh: Lying Cat, Majiffy, Bert (recent posts kind of suck)
Scum: Flubber, Anatole, Sonic

weird since you were townreading me in every post before this one

[Anatole Kuragin]

GG should be lynched

[Anatole Kuragin]

leaning town on flubber and MS now

[Anatole Kuragin]

TSO will you vote guilty pigeon

[Anatole Kuragin]

nvm, you are

[Anatole Kuragin]

everyone should sheep TSO

[Anatole Kuragin]

bert right now:

[Anatole Kuragin]

Bert is scouring mafia games for meta stuff.

Like Gandalf researched archives in Gondor for info about the One Ring

[Anatole Kuragin]

okay I will wait for your reasons.

big bird told etl to calm down so I don't think that will be a problem. I think she will listen.

I will in the meantime look at the resistance game that you are talking about assuming I can find it in your iso.

and actually I would like to hear why you think anatoejam and tso are town cos they are buddying the fuck out of us. that makes me paranoid.

When did I buddy you?

When did I say I was townreading Bert?

Is there anything you'd like to discuss that isn't imaginary?

[Anatole Kuragin]

But yeah, the game is pretty rad and you should totally rad it.

Im so serialkilling you tonight.

is it the sexy kind of serialkilling?

but seriously, AK is like the perfect vig target and a vig that shoots anyone else is terrible.

that would be a really stupid vig

[Anatole Kuragin]

bert is null for me

[Anatole Kuragin]

bert is null for me

VOTE: anatoejam

Ok so, making up a bunch of shit didn't work so you quote something completely null and vote me based on it?

Are you on crack or what?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Wouldn't matter, mollie would still say you buddied them and vote you based on it.

[Anatole Kuragin]

bert is null for me

VOTE: anatoejam

Ok so, making up a bunch of shit didn't work so you quote something completely null and vote me based on it?

Are you on crack or what?

Good to know I was probably right.

Are you saying that because you think Mollie agreeing confirms your suspicion or because you think my response was alignment indicative?

[Anatole Kuragin]

bert is null for me

VOTE: anatoejam

Ok so, making up a bunch of shit didn't work so you quote something completely null and vote me based on it?

Are you on crack or what?

Good to know I was probably right.

Are you saying that because you think Mollie agreeing confirms your suspicion or because you think my response was alignment indicative?

Your reaction to mollie voting you was absurdly scummy.

In what way?

[Anatole Kuragin]

"absurdly"

[Anatole Kuragin]

yes

[Anatole Kuragin]

okay I will wait for your reasons.

big bird told etl to calm down so I don't think that will be a problem. I think she will listen.

I will in the meantime look at the resistance game that you are talking about assuming I can find it in your iso.

and actually I would like to hear why you think anatoejam and tso are town cos they are buddying the fuck out of us. that makes me paranoid.

When did I buddy you?

When did I say I was townreading Bert?

Is there anything you'd like to discuss that isn't imaginary?

[Anatole Kuragin]

bullshit^

[Anatole Kuragin]

GG answer my question

[Anatole Kuragin]

Mollie, in addition to your response to my claim that you made up bullshit and the quoted evidence for that, please explain why you find me saying "bert is null for me" scummy.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Post #1295

[Anatole Kuragin]

thanks

[Anatole Kuragin]

Bert

mastin2

Guilty Gunsmith

Lying Cat

notscience

Flubbernugget

Metal Sonic

Anatole Kuragin

pirate mollie

Guyett

beastcharizard

Majiffy

T S O

so you're OK with lynching any of the red names, NS?

[Anatole Kuragin]

obviously exclude yourself...

[Anatole Kuragin]

Yeah, missed beast. On that note, what do you see that is townish about him? It seems like he is trying to keep a low profile.

[Anatole Kuragin]

GG is PNG to me until AP responds to my #1295

[Anatole Kuragin]

also they're scum so I guess it doesn't matter that much

[Anatole Kuragin]

person non grata

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'd like us to lynch GG

[Anatole Kuragin]

GG is PNG to me until AP responds to my #1295

Because it is. Throwing mud at mollie after she votes you and then pretending that isn't scummy in some universe is extra scummy. Asking me to explain why something so obviously scum motivated is scummy is even more bonus levels of scummy.

You either don't possess the ability to read or you're scum and misrepping. Which is it?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Mollie even admitted that her post was made up bullshit and you're still saying that my pointing that out is "mud slinging?"

[Anatole Kuragin]

How desperate are you to lynch a townie today? Jesus.

[Anatole Kuragin]

GG is PNG to me until AP responds to my #1295

Because it is. Throwing mud at mollie after she votes you and then pretending that isn't scummy in some universe is extra scummy. Asking me to explain why something so obviously scum motivated is scummy is even more bonus levels of scummy.

You either don't possess the ability to read or you're scum and misrepping. Which is it?

You didn't answer my question.

[Anatole Kuragin]

does anyone actually have a reason for their flubber vote?

jc

[Anatole Kuragin]

yeah I don't think flubb is scum

[Anatole Kuragin]

sorry, maybe I should have added more FUCK YOUs and NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME JUST KILL ME I HATE EVERYTHINGs so it could achieve the high standards you post at

[Anatole Kuragin]

How desperate are you to lynch a townie today? Jesus.

Not at all. Flubber is practically a free mislynch. I just like upsetting you.

can you explain this? You're voting flubber and called him a free mislynch yourself.

[Anatole Kuragin]

flubber is a counter-wagon to GG anyways

[Anatole Kuragin]

It doesn't seem like a joke when it's pretty obviously a mislynch.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Right now, I think the scumteam is 3 of mollie, GG, MS, majiffy

[Anatole Kuragin]

It doesn't seem like a joke when it's pretty obviously a mislynch.

Ok, why is Flubber obviously town. without arguing that I'm pushing him so he must be town.

A) bullshitting around and lurking is basically the only clear thread in flubb's town meta
B) no actual evidence has been presented for him to be anything but a nullish townie just bullshitting and coasting

[Anatole Kuragin]

In Oman's Air Combat mafia he did the same thing, just lurked and bullshitted until a few days in where he basically called the whole scum team before getting NKd

[Anatole Kuragin]

His wagon is also the third or fourth to spring up since you have been at 3/4 votes which supports the notion that a) you're scum, or b) the scumteam likes how completely useless your play is and doesn't want you dead.

p-edit: a) what game?

b) there are other posters more egregiously not scumhunting than flubb, imo

[Anatole Kuragin]

B) case in point

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't care if you care - I'm arguing with GG, not you.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think you missed my point. I'm not calling you scum. I don't even necessarily agree that "not scumhunting" is a really useful indicator of scum at this juncture - I was just pointing out that that seems to be the only issue leveled at Flubb and he's not even the most obvious example of it.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think the fact that he's specifically trying not to be the most obvious example is part of their stance

I haven't seen any evidence quoted that flub is "trying not to be the most obvious example [of not scumhunting]."

[Anatole Kuragin]

also, from an information standpoint flubber would pretty much be the most useless flip if it is a mislynch, aside from supporting the idea that it is a GG counter-wagon. which is already pretty obvious. It's not a good day 1 lynch.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think the fact that he's specifically trying not to be the most obvious example is part of their stance

I haven't seen any evidence quoted that flub is "trying not to be the most obvious example [of not scumhunting]."

Would you like to provide some, NS?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't even disagree that he gives off that vibe. like I said earlier, the dude has a weird playstyle and it's not conducive to an easy townread.

[Anatole Kuragin]

conspiracy theory: ika is bert's alt when he posts from mobile

[Anatole Kuragin]

Ap if townyou may think ETLs posts entitle u to be townread or summat

But ETL has a formidable scumgame so paranoia about her no matter her play doesn't surprise

Or shouldn't surprise

/mobile

tbf, this is probably true of all of the more experienced players, because there are a lot in this game. People gave mollie and GG townreads pretty quickly as if they couldn't, as scum, give the performances they have so far without a lot of effort.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't really see the point. I don't like playing vanilla townie but I still tend to win when I do.

[Anatole Kuragin]

MS, NS, or GG are the lynch options today, as far as I'm concerned. They all have 2 votes. Flubber is a dumb lynch and 4 of my 5 scummy reads are on it.

[Anatole Kuragin]

We have 24 hoursish. Everyone should explain why they're townreading or scumreading each of those players.

[Anatole Kuragin]

also, RIP majiffy

[Anatole Kuragin]

Can we get an extension due to the jfify replacement?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Thanks.

We still need to get our shit together. We need votes on GG, NS, or MS.

[Anatole Kuragin]

NS is my least favorite option of the 3

[Anatole Kuragin]

If I have to for a deadline lynch, I'll vote NS. I still think GG is scummiest of the three.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Town
Mollie
Thor
Gg
Bert
LC
TSO
Guyett
Beast(?)

Can you quote the posts from the last couple days that caused you to remove me from this list?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Can you quote the posts in which I was wishy washy?

[Anatole Kuragin]

[quote="In post 1677, Bert"]and naming <mollie, gg, ms, majiffy> as your scum pool - not easy lynches at all
/quote]

yeah no kidding

[Anatole Kuragin]

and naming <mollie, gg, ms, majiffy> as your scum pool - not easy lynches at all

yeah no kidding

[Anatole Kuragin]

I back up those statements too, since we're now gridlocked because most players in the game are being townread by people and mathematically they can't all be teamed.

[Anatole Kuragin]

egh.. i'm more certain of flubber mastin. ms is kind of.. a not there read anymore. i wouldn't really know what to do with the flip, whereas there's plenty of weird sideline resistance to flubber.

Can you explain what you mean by "weird sideline resistance?" And provide an example?

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: NotScience

we need a lynch

[Anatole Kuragin]

if you're town it's the right choice, so thank you

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: Metal Sonic

[Anatole Kuragin]

L-2 for metal sonic, pls

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm going to try and make it through the entire game without thor acknowledging my existence

[Anatole Kuragin]

I have never seen someone use so many exclamation marks

[Anatole Kuragin]

Can we just lynch MS? I'm not going to be around tomorrow to force you dummies to stay on point when the inevitable flubber wagon flares up again.

[Anatole Kuragin]

mollie is scum but that's not important right now.

what's important is

let's lynch MS

[Anatole Kuragin]

bert, MS > NS

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't expect Thor to be able to cover every player in 24 hours. I just thought it was funny to point out I haven't come up once, but I guess others haven't either.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Thus are we ministers of God's own wish: that the world, and men for whom His Son die, will not be given over to monsters, whose very existence would defame Him. He have allowed us to redeem one soul already, and we go out as the old knights of the Cross to redeem more. Like them we shall travel towards the sunrise; and like them, if we fall, we fall in good cause.

-Dracula

Vote Count 1.20

Flubbernugget - 3 (Guilty Gunsmith, Metal Sonic, notscience)
Guilty Gunsmith - 0
notscience - 2 (Lying Cat, Guyett)
Metal Sonic - 6 (beastcharizard, Flubbernugget, T S O, mastin2, Anatole Kuragin, Bert)
T S O - 2 (Thor665, Mollie)

Not Voting: No one

7 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2014-11-15 12:30:19)

I have edited this to make an (hopefully correct) unofficial vote count.

[Anatole Kuragin]

there have been attempted wagons with 2+ votes on pretty much every player but me, charizard, and guyett in the past week

[Anatole Kuragin]

I have trouble believing you're considered a really strong player and you'd make such a dumb/WIFOM comment about a NK.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Obvious reasons - they're perfectly fine leaving the more active posters alive because they aren't accomplishing much, they are scum, or would lead to negative connections to mafia members.

aka GG is scum

[Anatole Kuragin]

I actually think mastin looks the worst from the night kill. TSO suspected mastin but didn't push hard so it wouldn't be obvious they were the one who killed him. mastin is also suspiciously quiet

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: Guyett

[Anatole Kuragin]

Mastin, I'd love to hear the reasons you're scumreading me.

Also, why is calling a player town the same as "buddying?" If that was true, everyone in this game and probably every mafia game that has ever existed would be buddying.

It's not lost on me that this is coming after I pointed out the NK looked bad for mastin.

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: Mollie

[Anatole Kuragin]

We can get this wagon going.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't get how anyone can read mollie as town based on gut. That's all I'm going off of for the most part and she is fishy as fuck

[Anatole Kuragin]

Gut Town Reads:

Anatole Kuragin
Guyett
Lying Cat
pirate mollie

Null Reads:

beastcharizard
notscience

Where are you at, notscience?

Town-
Mollie
You
beast

Maybe town-
Majiffy Slot

Everyone else is in a pool of null

I find it hard to believe you have legitimate reasons for believing those three players are town.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Guyett seems like low-hanging fruit. he seems to legitimately be mentally lacking rather than having malicious intent. I've been wrong before though.

[Anatole Kuragin]

My biggest scumreads aren't on the thor wagon.

[Anatole Kuragin]

So either, a) I'm a complete dumbass (probable), b) most of the townies are complete dumbasses (possible) or c) thor/majiffy was scum after all (probable)

[Anatole Kuragin]

Thor hasn't claimed right?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Well we're not going to hammer him until the 27th or 28th or whenever he gets back then

[Anatole Kuragin]

unbeliebable

[Anatole Kuragin]

V/LA: I'll try to get to a computer/phone to post whenever I can but I'm going to be out of town with family until Sunday starting tonight. Sorry.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Back from holiday. I don't especially want to lynch flub or thor right now.