Robin Williams Mafia - rememberance - game over

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/egopsot

Hello all.
I shall replace into this game.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

expect some more tomorrow.

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if anyone wants to direct me to somewhere specific, or tell me in short what happened, or list of claims, etc etc, please do that. also, I have a hat. also,

what are the chances this game is multiball?

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was nobody lynched D2?

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OO COOL WHAT IS IT

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Four minutes forty-two seconds must be a new record for suddenly appearing after being called out as lurking scum.

This is a good post by a townie against a person who hasn't flipped.

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REQUEST: EXTENSION

We've been down one player slot pretty much the whole game :/

Also having a busy day hopefully will have time to post more tonight.

why the fuck are all my townreads dead

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VOTE: ika

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so you say I have a power and that I'm a VT? what is true then?

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also what is a geinie?

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Four minutes forty-two seconds must be a new record for suddenly appearing after being called out as lurking scum.

REQUEST: EXTENSION

We've been down one player slot pretty much the whole game :/

Also having a busy day hopefully will have time to post more tonight.

it's 3:35 am I'll continue somewhen tomorrow

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Alright guys, I had the wish today. I considered keeping it, and using it for a protective purpose, and that's why I was interested in how specifically ika used it. However, since we're potentially in MYLO, we can't necessarily count on a night protection to actually help us win.

So, here is what I've wished for: I have wished that the mod will quote the ending vote count of yesterday, state how many players alive at that time were not aligned with town, and how many of those not aligned with town were on that lynching wagon. I think those two pieces of information are critical to use navigating our current position to a win.

So now we'll both know exactly how many scum we're still facing, and even more critically, how many are among that wagon (and conversely NOT on the wagon). Should be very revealing.

A puff of smoke appears in the sky.

A voice comes booming.

"A blast from the past"

Suddenly you see this appear.

Vote count

:

Peregrine (0)
AdrienC (5) Titus, Anakamius, plagiarist, Ika, LynchMePls
Ankamius (0)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (0)
Lynchmepls (1) andrienC
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (1) Evil Regals

Not voting:

Peregrinev, Elmo

Voice: The knowledge you seek is 3 town and 2 are not.


The smoke clears.

HOLEY MOMMA! this helps me in my reading.

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UNVOTE: cuz I don't remember who I was voting. but I'll read up with good focus. This role is not scum, so LMP is probtown, conftown on my end.

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Guys, can you please make a list of claims, preferably with links to the places where they claimed?
also are we sure there are only 2 scums in the game yet and not 3? the game started with 16, and 3+SK is highly townfavorable imo. 4 scum in a 16p makes sense.

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I'm really thinking it is more likely to have 4 scums+SK. in 13p 3+SK makes sense, so 16p makes sense for this. town power is vig+commuter+proven wishmaker(n-shot? don't claim if you don't think you should), and SK was not BP. so vig and SK can kill scums, scum can kill SK, and the ratio of sucm:town is ok. also note that scum flip was a goon, so I think scum wouldn't have much power too. However,

there *have* to be some bussers on the scum lynch

nevermind he was NKed. did the vig shoot him or did the SK? interesting question.

@PV: I think LMP is town not because of his use of the wish, but because he proved he has it. I *REALLY* doubt scum would recieve a wishmaker. it'll be OP, especially with the amount of VTs yet and yet to flip.

I'm revisiting the thread from page 16(until there it was mostly BS and lots of deadguys), now focusing on the four on the wagon. this is my lynch pool, with modconfirmed 50% scum in there, it should be yours too(especially if you're in the pool)

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Apparently the part of my wish that said it wanted the number of living non-town was missed. Not sure how that'll be resolved. Carry on.

is the mod going to fix his error or not?..what did he say?

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This chain doesn't sit well with me and feels opportunistic. PF is an experienced player so it's easier for scum to latch onto bad wagons that they start without really getting flak for it.
Baezu so far has been scummier than Domo, but Domo is still likely scum. At least one of these two are definitely scum.

This comment doesn't sit well with me. Why are you making definitive assumptions about me and baezu based on plagiarist being a bad wagon? Do you know something I don't about plagiarist? I get the impression that you know plagiarist is town.

UNVOTE:

Furthermore, I would like to remind you that I did not latch onto pokerface's wagon, I pretty much started that wagon by saying the same things pokerface did. It should come as no surprise to anyone paying attention that I liked pokerface's comment.

VOTE: brandi

Sorry Domo-chan, not trying to be mean here, but this line of thinking doesn't make sense and isn't very believable. In a mafia game most of what you go off of has to be assumptions, especially early on. My assumption is that the dude is not scum. So when someone attacks/votes someone for flimsy or opportunistic reasons that don't feel like scum hunting, they are scummy. Your reaction to my post is verrrry over defensive.

And thanks for the reminder, but, I know you didn't hop onto the wagaon from PokerFace, and I never said

you

did. Your vote on him was still bad and you are still scummy for a lot of how you've played so far in this game.

VOTE: Brandi

anything else but filler post and doublcasting?

Ika will be replacing powerful townie.

why did Ika replace into this slot, at all? PT looks like he wasn't quite leaving. was he force-replaced.? asked for replacement earlier..?

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oh that was a head of the hydra...nvm..

ika, your play in that slot looks like shit.

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Ika. Titus. Come here lads, have a seat.

You guys know each other well from your other site. And you guys are, both, in my lynch pool. I'd like each of you to give me a (preferable lengthy and full-of-post-tags) good analysis of yours of each other.

Time to bus, bawyz

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Ika, what do you think of Titus's play until now? The postcount is tiny which is unlike titus-town. Even the content of those posts is mehish.
Titus, what do you think of Ika's play until now? His posts in POWERFUL TOWNIE and actually in Ika too are waaaay too trollish and lack any substance in many, many occasions. is it familiar to you?

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page top

but more serious matter to adress atm:

how about this for the newbs (as well as any other player):

whats your mafia experience?
how many games have you played?
do you play else where?
are you scum? (yes serious question)

this way we can get a better gauging of whos a "newb" and whos not.

if AP thinks that hes newb im willing to reconsider but even for a newb its highly self-aware imo

also ika WTF.

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why are people scumreading anka? his ISO reads quite fine. not too large, but generally OK, and his claim isn't squeaky.

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ok, I *love* the plagiarist's ISO. it is awesome, time-invested, scumhunting, and is well, ubertown.

Ika and titus are my guesses. let's see how they face each other.
also Plag, are you an alt?


pedit:
haven't read yet, in a mo

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why are people scumreading anka? his ISO reads quite fine. not too large, but generally OK, and his claim isn't squeaky.

Did you ISO the others who had his slot?

actually not yet but I'll do that somewhen >_>

Mainly it's a POE thing. Mostly:

I honestly don't see how Ika is scum here, so that seems to imply Titus as the other, but there is still a lot of confusion around those roles. I think, given this most recent revelation, we need full claims from everyone with full targets and wishes and everything. My only hesitation on Titus is that Bodyguard is an insanely bold fake claim for scum. When PRs keep dying and he doesn't, it puts him in an incredibly awkward position.

Given this, Plagiarist + Ank is the pretty clear bet.

Also, what do you mean by "his iso reads quite fine". Details please.

1. where is the quote from? why is ika not scum? I got real scumvibes on him; and how does ikatown imply titusscum?

also, BG is a prefectly easy fakeclaim. firstly, because you can invent reasons for protections; secondly because it can actually not be a fakeclaim, and have a scum Bg, in a game where there's an SK and vig then you can defend your fellow scumPR and leave loads of wifom etc... and also it is a role that does not have any conflict with any other role, and is pretty weak so it doesn't count for balance-and-setup discussion....it's a really easy lazy scum fakeclaim.

I mean that I read his ISO and it looks legit. but yes, I'll admit I ahven't read the other players of that slot.

lack of NK? what about it and how does it matter?

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in many games I see mods do 1 odd-night PR and 1 even-night PR. scum may have just chosen to nokill, since it does not actually harm them(mylo, lylo, does it matter? one mislynch needed)

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(also this makes it even more likely that there are 3 scums alive)

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3 peregrinev - geinie
8 Ankamius - vt
9: Ika - vt
11 Evil Regals - inventor
13 shos - vt
14 LynchMePls - vt
15 Titus - bg
16 The Plagiarist - some sort of investigative shit

tell me when your all caught up

OH I GET IT NOW
PV gave him the wish. that means PV is conftown, not LMP. that sucks.
but also that means LMP can be scum, and the mod's answer can be actually anything. "quote last VC of yesterday and post 2 and 3" would yield same result. the last part was 'forgotten'?

we need to see the mod's response first.

ANYWAY

, I'm tired and am going to sleep, loads of shit in the coming days.

I'm also putting a sitewide V/LA, but I'll be on phone.

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Ika, what do you think of Titus's play until now?

shes busy irl and its been sitewide thing, doesnt factor into it

The postcount is tiny which is unlike titus-town. Even the content of those posts is mehish.

ok so?

also consider the fact i am near universal townread and that if i was scum i have been playing suboptiomaly ya im going to disregard you

'everyone reads me as town that means I am town' *ignores* hmm. good townplay.

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A puff of smoke appears in the sky.

A voice comes booming.

"A blast from the past"

Suddenly you see this appear.

Vote count

:

Peregrine (0)
AdrienC (5) Titus, Anakamius, plagiarist, Ika, LynchMePls
Ankamius (0)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (0)
Lynchmepls (1) andrienC
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (1) Evil Regals

Not voting:

Peregrinev, Elmo

Voice:

The knowledge you seek is 3 town and 2 are not.

The smoke clears.

This is not a lie. the wish could be 'post "the knowledge ou see bla bla". it's not that the mod said "of the five on the wagon, 3 town and 2 are not".

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see, this is precisely why you suck, ika. townies don't just go into 1v1s in mylo with anyone calling them scum.

link me to where your obvtownness is becoming clear? I have yet to read 20 more pages you know

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dude, what part of 'I haven't read the game yet' did you miss? lol XD
I am asking loads of questions. be patient, if you can, answer them, I'll be glad, it'll help me read up. you should definitely give a damn.

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mod xan you explain the role SK watcher? Does it kill and watch at the same night? On the same target? Or only one ability per night?

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This vacation is stuck in my ass. Ill try to read despite that.

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Not sure. Ifit's a scum genie, PV won't claim and it would pick the players least likely to optimally use when it picks town. If PV is genie, then that theory is moot.

Ika, what exactly was your wish?

???? - Stop day.
ika - ???? (Something with the kill)
LMP - Wagon Sensor

Imho scum gebie is impossible. It is way too OP if it can grant wishes to partners and if it cant then it has to be compulsive, so it will grant the one getting NKed.

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I can live with ank lynch, actually.

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Back from vla

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1245. In addition to thenon-response in 1246 to it,

VOTE: ank

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Guys, can you please make a list of claims, preferably with links to the places where they claimed?
also are we sure there are only 2 scums in the game yet and not 3? the game started with 16, and 3+SK is highly townfavorable imo. 4 scum in a 16p makes sense.

4 scum (not counting the SK), means one of you or Evil Regals is scum.

That is, assuming LMP is town.

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Vote count:

Peregrine (0)
Ankamius (1)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (0)
Lynchmepls (0)
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (2) ika, evil

Not voting:

everyone else

With 9 alive it will take 5 to lynch
(expired on 2014-10-31 08:30:00)

I'm giving plag till the end of day to respond.

I am not here

fixed

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Actually guys, come to think of it, PV has a point, too. See, if LMP is town, then one of {me, Evil regal} is scum. Now...I'm not scum. so basically, it's sort of a 1v1 between evil regal and LMP.

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PV why did you give LMP the wish?

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[read: convince me that he is town.]

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That's true. but we don't know the origin of those kills. if we have a vig, I think they should claim.

also I think I asked like a thousand times but, is there a claimlist?

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uh. I can work with this. I just need time. I don't have it. got a wedding in 15 minutes. I WANT TO SLEEP

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meanwhile UNVOTE:

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No worries LMP i am omw home. Got legwork to do here, but with deadline so near I will mainly focus on who to vote.

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Starting -now-

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VOTE: Evil Regals
He seems to be scum with ika, I think.
His claim is fishy and he seems to have not actually claimed actions at all. One night I see that he claims to have been roleblocked, which is really kinda useless in a game where the only actual PR is a vig. Also, and this is the biggest and heaviest thing, he keeps claiming that there are only 2 scum left. why would town say that? think that? town cannot possibly say that without any actual reasons. scum, however, can throw it into the air so that town catch it and think that it isn't mylo.

Basically, I am confident that PV is town, and by now LMP too. ER is the lone scum outside of the wagon that is described in the mod's wish-post.

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Also his ISO is fucking terrible. loads of short posts, meaningless bickering and absolutely no scumhunting whatsoever.

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how so?

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did plagiarist really not claim yet?

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Dude. if there are 4 scum, as in 3 scums left, then there is one scum outside of that wagon. meaning it's either me or ER. that makes it very easy.
I can either assume that there are 2 scums on that wagon, OR, that you are scum. I choose the first; now, if there ARE three scums left, then we're in mylo, and we have to lynch scum. why lynch a 50/50 chance when you can lynch ER?. or, if there are only 2 scums left, then a mislynch is not so bad. ER will flip town in that case, and we will still have exactly the same situation as we have now, choosing from the wagon.

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Also, even if, at the worst case scenario, we do NOT manage to get a lynch, it's mylo turning into lylo, so town only gets better with a smaller lynch pool.

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keep commenting(stay here!) I'm going to eat some and be backl

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Oh I'm sorry I shouldn't be viewing the game from my own pov? then you probably shouldn't say that there are mod guaranteed 2 scums in those 4 people, yes?

that requires 4 scums, yes; but if you kept reading you'll see that if that condition is NOT satisfied, then nothing bad happens, since we're not in mylo. You're basically saying to me OMG DUDE THERE IS MODCONFIRMED 50/50 ChANCE TO HIT SCUM THERE!!! but my sir, this is precisely the situation in any lylo. you are town, half the others are scum and half are town. so what's the difference?
in my pov, as pere noted, this is basically a 1v1 between you and ER. I can't see how you don't see it.

*I* am not in a 1v1 against ER. nobody seems to even consider my lynch. I have nothing to fear here. the 1v1 is between *YOU* and ER, on my end. a 1v1 is a 50% chance precisely like your 2/4 'modconfirmed'.

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why lynch a 50/50 chance

Also, for the record, just because 2 out of 4 are scum, that does not mean it's a 50/50. We have game play info that makes some players more likely scum and some less likely scum. So pretending that lynching on that wagon is 50/50 is scummy.

lolwut.
the exact same can be said on me v ER, you know.

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^^^ is from your PoV.

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prod dodge, will post later today after work.

Vote: Plagiarist

LAL. Also, he's scum.

can you even explain why this is a better chance?

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I invented Flubber. I have a list of abilities, 1-shot, that im able to send to any player of my choice, however, i am not able to pick what is sent.

Doubtful, unless the inventions i have made reinvent themselves. If thats the case then its bastardful to give me a list for them to be something else.

Also compare to *this* claim.

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shos we are lynching form the wagon today.

you attempting a vanity wagona t this point is liek a scum claim to me as well

pedit: i can answer, 3 are town on the lynch, 2 are not

so if you go by the premisies that its a 3 man scum team both have to be on the wagon

...which gives us a 50%.

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I'm on the phone stay online

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why lynch a 50/50 chance

Also, for the record, just because 2 out of 4 are scum, that does not mean it's a 50/50. We have game play info that makes some players more likely scum and some less likely scum. So pretending that lynching on that wagon is 50/50 is scummy.

lolwut.
the exact same can be said on me v ER, you know.

I don't know if you're being intentionally thick, or just not seeing it. So let me explain clearly:

If you believe the wagon censor, there are 2 guaranteed scum. While a third scum outside the wagon is likely, it is NOT guaranteed.

Pushing a lynch outside the wagon right now is CRAZY poor town play. Even if you believe ER is scum, that is a problem for AFTER now, not now. The reason is that suppose we're wrong on the setup, and it was just a 3 man team. We just hand them a win with an ER lynch (were you even able to convince me of her alignment, which I guarantee you aren't). We don't have to conjecture about the size of the scum team to KNOW that there are 2 scums on the AC wagon.

it is not poot town play. See, when you want to win, you don't care *when* you win. if you win at mylo it's good, if you win at mylo+2 it matters not. the difference between 3 scums in {ER, {set of 4}} and 2 scums in {set of 4} does not matter. you'll be given the chance to get those two EVEN IF evil is town.

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prod dodge, will post later today after work.

Vote: Plagiarist

LAL. Also, he's scum.

can you even explain why this is a better chance?[/quote]

Better chance than what? 50/50? Because his claim is scummy and his play is scummy. Added with the fact that 2 out of the 4 other players on the wagon are known scum, the chances that Plagiarist is not one of them are much lower than 50%.[/quote]from my PoV, ER is 100% a safe lynch. everything you say, from YOUR pov, can be said on the other end as welel. ER's claim is scummy and his play is scummy. added with the fact that (this is my assumption, still if it's wrong it's safe) there is 1 scum in the 2 not on the wagon, the chances that ER is town are much lower than 50%.

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I invented Flubber. I have a list of abilities, 1-shot, that im able to send to any player of my choice, however, i am not able to pick what is sent.

Doubtful, unless the inventions i have made reinvent themselves. If thats the case then its bastardful to give me a list for them to be something else.

Also compare to *this* claim.

How is an inventor a scum claim?

Vanilla-cop has a clear scum benefit: Identify PRs to NK.

IT IS FUCKING DAY 5. NOTHING WAS INVENTED.

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knwo what fuck this

VOTE: ank

3rd wheel counterwagon go

ill move back to plauge for deadline but if we are going to just bicker of this lets go this way

seriously now, do you understand how you're just gambling between people in that wagon? FUCKING ISO ER. look at that shit. there's just..nothing in there.

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BOTH OF YOU SHUT UP WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS TOMMOROW IF YOUR BOTH ALIVE

if we NL then PV will die and we're still in the same dilemma...so may as well discuss this now.

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wait.....

lmp did you ask it "how many scums are on the wagon" or "how many non-towns" could it be we have a diffrent 3rd party?

have you guys ever EVER reviewed a setup?
three scums are OK with fighting 10 townies. three scum DEFINITELY don't balance against 12(11) townies and an SK (and another TP), ESPECIALLY when town have a fucking genie and supposedly an inventor; in combination with a flipped odd-night commuter AND A FUCKING VIG.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THERE CAN BE ONLY THREE SCUMS?!?!??!

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let's imagine a setup with three scums.

Serial Killer watcher

Mafia Goon

Odd Night Commuter
town Vig (needs to activate)
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie

PV - genie

Ankamius - vt
Ika - vt
Evil Regals - inventor
shos - vt
LynchMePls - vt
Titus - bg
The Plagiarist - some sort of investigative shit

Soooooo. two of the blacks should be scum. let's imagine they are the strongest ones. I excluded PV because, well, duh.
So assume Plagiarist and ER are scum. and we give them, let's say, roleblock, doc, joat, whatever you wish? together.

so 8VTs, a Bg, an enabled Vig, odd night commuter, and serial killer, vs a goon and two scum PRs?
does that sound balanced? the SK can catch scum. the vig can kill scum. the commuter can block their kills. the genie is immensely powerful. the BG can save at least once one of the PRs whenever claims happen. AND the scum need to eliminate LOADS OF PEOPLE to win.

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nevermind you then, but the others who are not on your site should have some sense. also, you're in THIS site now, so stuff that happen here actually happen here, not there.

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ER said somewhere that PV was a 3-shot, is that just bullshit?

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of course you can. if you vote, and LMP gets his wits back. there are 20 hours left, which is plenty of time to sleep, eat, shower, play, sleep again, and then come and vote.

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but you need to start the traction

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This is shit.

It is probably 3 scums, I guess. Still. eR is a safe lynch. If/whenhe flipa town, town gets lots of info.

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VOTE: plag.

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Obvious NK is obvious.
Does this change anything?

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as if it's so bad; makes it lylo instead of mylo, at worst.
that bunch of AtE you added does not make you appear better.

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Dat 1v1 between you and ER.

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Peregrine - Genie - Town Wishma

t

er - Killed Night 5

T and K are not even nearing each other in the keyboard. is that a mistake?

Yeah, I was rushed that morning.
Fixed

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We should make a wish that could tell us about LMP and some other townie. The idea is that hopefully we get 2 towns in a pool of 2, which:

1. Means the earlier sensor is officially true
2. Gives us a conftown.

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Or we can guess pn 2 scum, but that is dangerous and potentially wasteful.

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Make sure to dictate the way the answer comes. Like, 'of x y and Z, 2 are scum' and not 'what you seek is five'

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Actually a group of {lmp, shos, ika} seems good.

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[Aiming for 3 towns, or lmp dies]

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VOTE: titus
this game became really easy for me all of a sudden.

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Titus' play since my catchup and until now seems completely illogical on my end. add to taht the 'i think' part about his claim, add the fact that there wasn't any resistance (apart me) for ank & plag (meaning at least one is town); add the fact that he's in LMP's pool - and add the flipped roles in combo with a goon flip...yeah.

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yes, I object. we should aim for three townies wagon sensor. that is why I offered me and you+LMP.

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should search all VCs to see if there's already one existing.

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I currently think it is not lylo, because I've acquired a townread on ER, and it wouldn't make sense for lmpscum to force us into a pool of 3scum-1town.

lmp's analysis is just so bad x)

I really, really think that we better townhunt than scumhunt. I really think we should aim for a trio that gives us 0/3 or 3/3. 3/3 is hard, so 0/3 is preferred for {me, ika, lmp}|

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We can have ONLY them voting, and on different people.

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VOTE: lmp

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If the mod does not cooperate then one of lmp or ika is scum. I think it is LMP, staying with the wagon.

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So all we have to do is lynch the 2 scum in {ank, plag, titus}. If the game proceeds, lynch ER. Win.

What it really boils down to, for me, is "what is the chance that the DOMO-titus interaction D2 is a gambit".

that I have to read.

also, take into consideration we might *still* somehow be in lylo.

so....we have a small pool with high chances of hitting scum. what we do?

btw

unvote

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also hold your horses guys, there is much to read.

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I am actually feeling comfortable with either of plag/ank being lynched. odds are we're not in lylo imo, and welel, these two have posted SO LITTLE in the last week or two that I absolutely cannot believe they are apathetic town.

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guys can anyone of you be a doll/awesome person who is not a doll/etc and find me some other games with 16 players in them?
I *really* want to check out the case for whether or not we have another scum to deal with in the ER slot or not. I currently townread that slot, but it's dangerous to be in lylo and not know it.

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guys can anyone of you be a doll/awesome person who is not a doll/etc and find me some other games with 16 players in them?
I *really* want to check out the case for whether or not we have another scum to deal with in the ER slot or not. I currently townread that slot, but it's dangerous to be in lylo and not know it.

Shos, PLEASE try to follow this thought process, because I've tried to explain it to you about a million times now.

IT IS IRRELEVANT IF ER IS SCUM.

If ER is scum, we'll know it for a FACT on Day 8, when the game is still on going. The reason for this is thus:

D6: We lynch one of {ank, plag, titus} (assume we correctly lynch, because if we miss,

the game can just end on the spot

)
N6: They NK one of {lmp, shos, ika}
D7: We lynch one of remaining from {ank, plag, titus}
N7: They NK one of remaining from {lmp, shos, ika}
D8: Remaining players: {ER, one of {ank, plag, titus}, one of {lmp, shos, ika}}

No matter which remaining players are alive from those sub groups, ER would be the only player who could be scum. All of {ank, plag, titus} were on my sensor, so only 2 of them could be scum. All of the players in our sensor are cleared. ER would therefore be guaranteed scum.

And note that the scum MUST kill from our pool, because to shoot outside of our pool is to give us the game automatically.

Wasting time/energy/brain-cycles on whether or not ER is scum is very unlikely to produce any useful info. The only possible value would be to look for theoretical connections between ER and ank/plag/titus. Which you can do right now anyways just assuming that ER is scum.

^^^^bolded my point. if we're in lylo we need to be 10 times more careful. if we're not, we can have ika as careless as he wishes.
But also, we can, if we're still worried, lynch ER first, and take care of the problem. that way we'll *know* we're in lylo tomorrow, and if we're in lylo now, we're good.

[shos]

True, and yet we have nowhere to rush. Can you guys also link me to that DOMO-gambit you're talking about?

[shos]

that could've been a brilliant gambit.
and it's not that far fetched actually.

very interesting.

[shos]

Ill try to do my research today

[shos]

Unvote please. They are starting a quickhammer. Unvote quikly ika you are always pnline

[shos]

plag's vote makes me *realy* unconfrotable. so please unvote.

[shos]

then it isn't for you!

[shos]

ok he's scum

[shos]

if not, well, fuck you ank lol

[shos]

huh
why the fuck would they kill ER

[shos]

It makes no sense to leave 3 conftowns alive in 5p. ER would not be conftown, expalin this to me.

Tgere is ab option that both you and LMP are scum together and you are bith lying with the wish. Is this a possibility?

[shos]

ER kill is a next level sort of play.

This, very much. such intricate wifom and shit for the future.
I agree with taking Titus out before plag.

Tgere is ab option that both you and LMP are scum together and you are bith lying with the wish. Is this a possibility?

Look at the way things played out when ika made his wish yesterday, and ask yourself if all of the drama would have happened if ika's wish wasn't genuine. Also, consider that I was scum with the wish, with ika-buddy. Does my use of the wish make sense in that context? Also consider that ika used a wish earlier in the game to mass doc protect, costing the scum a night kill.

You can't 100% discount ika-LMP. But I think if you look at it rationally, it'll become clear pretty quickly that isn't the situation.

This is true, too. the mod literally locked the topic for a while there. I'm sure he'll talk about it postgame, because genie is hard to use indeed, but the thing is that if scum asked for a wish then no way he would've locked the topic, since it's easy.

VOTE: titus
and as titus said, if he flips town then plag is scum 100%. game solved.

[shos]

(please say that you're not scum with lmp)

[shos]

but I love it and I procrastinate

[shos]

lol don't block the kill it'll make one more vote needed for the lynch XD
block me, it'll confirm me when you die

[shos]

yes, you are. conspiracy is the best.
but really though, if plag isn't the lone scum alive, I have no idea what is possible

[shos]

I WILL KILL YOU AND THEN I WILL TAKE YOUR BODY AND CUT IT INTO PIECES AND EAT YOU IF YOU ARE A TRAITOR

[shos]

AND IT WILL NOT BE TASTY

[shos]

I guess this is easy or some kind of a stupidly huge gambit someone is pulling, since 4p means theree's only one scum left.
VOTE: plag
let's get this done

[shos]

also, 16 players, 8 days, 64 pages. soon 1600 posts
I see a pattern

[shos]

boob?

[shos]

Yay!
Farside, what do you think now, postgame, about the genie role? And why did you lock the thread?

Yhanks for modding and llaying guys

[shos]

Actually, I was the only thing stopping town frpm chainlynching scum even brfore the game got broken

[shos]

we need to hydra

YESZ