Robin Williams Mafia - rememberance - game over

[PeregrineV]

Vote: The Plagarist

Cheaters never win.

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Nothing specific today guys, catchup tomorrow

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but more serious matter to adress atm:

how about this for the newbs (as well as any other player):

whats your mafia experience?
how many games have you played?
do you play else where?
are you scum? (yes serious question)

this way we can get a better gauging of whos a "newb" and whos not.

if AP thinks that hes newb im willing to reconsider but even for a newb its highly self-aware imo

Did you just RQS in a large theme?

Vote: Powerful Townie

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Nothing specific today guys, catchup tomorrow

Five pages and this is the best you can do?

Sure, until I'm caught up. Then there might be more.

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VOTE: Not the mafia.

There are lots of people not posting, but Not the Mafia is checking the thread, posting, but not doing anything resembling scumhunting. There's still that weird first post that grates on me, and this is a far better vote than my RVS vote.

If weird first posts were any indication of whether someone was scum, the town probably should've won already. I think I cleared myself fairly well earlier on, as well as posting my reasons for not voting several users. I'm just trying to acquaint myself with your new, "more sophisticated" forum. Plus, none of the current bandwagons appeal to me whatsoever. If it makes you all sleep better at night, I'll VOTE: adelina, just because we haven't heard from them in a while, but that's still not anything resembling a lead. Hopefully we can get more info before any more premature votes are made.

They had the longest post 1 page back.

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Any more I have to say right now is probably better left unsaid.

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VOTE: Dybeck

Until there's anything truly suspicious comes up, I'm going to hold on to my vote.

Talk about the suspicious thing Dybeck did.

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Unvote: Not the Mafia
Vote: Dybeck

Reinoe got him! NTM can wait.

I'm a little lost. Walk me though how Reinoe "got" Dybeck. Like I'm dumb (cause I am ).

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Someone gave him a lame post restriction.

It's either him or the mod. My money, based upon form, is it's him.

The question is not so much about that... It's more that if he does it routinely, just to be a douchebag, rather than

because he's scum,

is that sufficient not to act on LAL.

Bam. That's what I was looking for when I said "I wonder if I can preditct the future". The subtle implication that there's some sort of scum motivation when there's clearly none.

I don't get it.

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unvote

for now. After reading NTM's recent posts I don't really feel like he's scum.

Dybeck's posts aren't great.

I want to note that Reinoe never initially claimed to have a post restriction, and his response to the complaints feel as though he genuinely has one. He said something to the effect of "I'm only going to say this once, you don't have to read it that's why it's in spoilers,"

We don't need to be all "the boy who cried wolf", why even focus on something like a fake post restriction when in the past it was from a town player?

It seems like a pointless distraction for the town.

vote: dybeck

@Evil: Why assume someone pointing out inactivity levels is scummy? He wasn't even claiming to cast suspicion on those who haven't posted in several days.

The above probably reads weird but I was typing my thoughts as I caught up.

It looks like you are calling out Reinoe for "pointless distraction for the town." and then voting dybeck for ???

Is ???= biggest current wagon or pointing out the "pointless distraction for town"?

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Saturday post

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unvote

for now. After reading NTM's recent posts I don't really feel like he's scum.

Dybeck's posts aren't great.

I want to note that Reinoe never initially claimed to have a post restriction, and his response to the complaints feel as though he genuinely has one. He said something to the effect of "I'm only going to say this once, you don't have to read it that's why it's in spoilers,"

We don't need to be all "the boy who cried wolf", why even focus on something like a fake post restriction when in the past it was from a town player?

It seems like a pointless distraction for the town.

vote: dybeck

@Evil: Why assume someone pointing out inactivity levels is scummy? He wasn't even claiming to cast suspicion on those who haven't posted in several days.

The above probably reads weird but I was typing my thoughts as I caught up.

It looks like you are calling out Reinoe for "pointless distraction for the town." and then voting dybeck for ???

Is ???= biggest current wagon or pointing out the "pointless distraction for town"?

I wasn't calling out Reinoe for anything. I'm saying Dybeck's posts were the pointless distractions. With his "let me make this clear" post. It was a pointless post that he tried to make seem important.

I generally find posts that attempt to clear things up useful, since they are trying to create mutual understanding through the clarification.

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PeregrineV, if you were to vote based on the amount of information that you have so far on this game, who would you vote? How much had you read when you answered this question?

Which question?

Right now, I really forgot, but I may or may not accept your Not-the-mafia reaction explanation for now. Otherwise, I would be OK with his lynch. (assuming nothing else changes by the time I finish reading).
Baezu is more suspect than normal, as is powerful townie. Trying to decide if reinoe is scum or not, I like dybeck for town.

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Quoting NtM's post is a really bad reason to vote me. It accuses me of being scum for speculating and probing. That's what everyone should be doing. I'd love to see more of that. I will carry on being suspicious of everyone because THAT'S THE GAME OF MAFIA!

Excessive inquiry is not what helps scum. Apathy is what helps scum.

I agree that it should be important to interrogate other players. The point was that your reasons for suspecting me are terrible. It seems like a leap to say that I'm scum, just based on the reasons you gave. If you could back up your claims rather than spout out conspiracy theories, that'd be great.

Perhaps you could vote one of your non-dybeck suspects? And explain why. That would help move you from awkward noob scum to maybe awkward newb town.

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Vote: Baezu

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I'm reading and responding by mobile. I hadn't been called out for lurking by the time I started replying. You still haven't explained to me your thought process in making me out to be scum by the way.

I think your 116 and 124 really suck, and do not come across as town at all. I'm conidering Obscurity's explanation, but that would only give you a null leaning scum, since your not actively scumhunting. And you apparently are accusing dybeck of being scum FOR scumhunting (224).

Perhaps you could vote one of your non-dybeck suspects? And explain why. That would help move you from awkward noob scum to maybe awkward newb town.

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I

really

hope PV is town.

Seems a silly hope, but I'll take it as a compliment.

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Holy crap, prodded. Sorry about that.

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I'd support a titus lynch. I've been saying all along that this isn't town titus and I didn't like the slot when manfredd was in it either

VOTE: titus

Any comments about the large ass Baezu wagon currently at a theatre near you? Starring you as the lynched dude?

Also, you should claim and all.

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I'm not a fan of the claim either. Unkilliable on certain nights does feel like something scum would claim

ok times up im gonna be gone and i dont want anyone trying to weasle it out

VOTE: Baezu

we still have twilight as well so make the notes faster

but I also don't like how IKA voted a guy and then asked for notes faster

Scum not likly to give notes so if baezu flips town I will be angry

Does scum Baezu take this much time to work up a bunch of WIFOM shit that will be ignored when they flip scum?

Just wish this level of effort was done earlier, I like when Town-Baezu gets on one of those rolls.

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Brandi, I doubt ika is scum. I am not 100% on that but he's a decent townread.

I was actually crusing back through an old, abandoned game for some reason, and I found the reason for 131.

Vote:ika

But, also need to read over Domo.

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Unvote: Titus
Vote: Not the Mafia

I really hope you're town, Titus.

11 days left, why are you voting Not the Mafia?

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Unvote: Titus
Vote: Not the Mafia

I really hope you're town, Titus.

11 days left, why are you voting Not the Mafia?

Because we live in a world where I can't please everyone. I vote NTM, I piss you off. I DON'T vote NTM, I piss Ika off.

By the way, if NTM flips scum, you just earned a look from me.

With 11 days left putting him at L-2 for no given reason but to sheep ika, yeah, that kind of irks me.

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Please go over my ISO before you think I'm just sheeping Ika. Every single day phase I have made at least one post stating that NTM was one of, if not THE, top scumread for me.

So tell me, PV, are you whiteknighting for NTM's eventual town flip or protecting your scumbuddy?

Like, how long have I been pregnant? I'm not pregnant, I'm just fat.

When I go over your ISO, I find a very weak reason that you tunnel Not theMafia for. No biggie, as his play has been crap. However, you only leave that tunnel long enough to vote town.

So, your tunnel starts with 107-

what kind of person makes up a false reason to put a second vote on someone to get a wagon going?

117 and 118 seem to indicate that your scumread is not as strong as you would initially seem to indicate.

404- without much fanfare, NottheMafia still a top scumread (lets assume for 107 still...?)

429 is Bauzu leaning town & you want more on why he is scum, 436 your voting him.

If you flip town, I'll keep your reads in mind. You have my word on that.

Baezu reads

• Adelina - I like their 89 and 118. As far as 404 I feel that NtM and dybeck were easy mislynches at that point so I'm not incredibly happy with those people being their top 2 scum reads
• Someone is leading us to mislynch the easy bait, like NtM and the town is falling for it
  
• I truly think powerful town -> ika is scum. Why the rush to hammer?
  
• NtM 73 where he announces he's awkward noob is strange, but I think he's town and an easy mislynch
  
• top scum reads : titus, powerful townie, pokerface

I said I will as soon as I'm sure I can trust Titus.

how about this: do you trust me?

if not why?

I'm 50/50 on you. The fact you're taking charge is scaring me a little bit, and also the fact you've been buddying a little bit. But at the same time, your analysis on Domo and his posts were spot on and great information.

I've got a question. Do you trust me?

Unvote: Titus
Vote: Not the Mafia

I really hope you're town, Titus.

So, all and all, you'll get why I'm questioning you when your posts are already information-light.

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monday post. working from home so this may be it or more later.

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@ika

- remember that game where you were town and didn't do shit? And that other game where you were town and did jack shit? And that other game where you were town and everyone thought you were scum for doing jack shit? And that other game where you were town and unhelpful and abrasive and otherwise did nothing?

And then there is this game, where you suddenly care. Given, well, every other town game of yours I've seen, I strongly suspect you to be scum.

Thoughts?

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2) be fully invested into the game

Just a link or two (or even names of games) to where you were fully invested as town would help to alleviate my anxiety.

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2) be fully invested into the game

Just a link or two (or even names of games) to where you were fully invested as town would help to alleviate my anxiety.

wifom city titus hostest where i replaced in. town VT

how you want to die was town mason
mason thread

street racers replaced wake, town VT

wifom city invasion was priest (cop equilvelent)

my investment in my games dont really hve a set pattern but these are good examples of where i was mostly invested

Glanced at the first one. Will do more on the rest later. No change in my opinion so far.

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you loss PV. think what you may it wont change anything

i will most likely die before i get lynched this game

Hmmm. Are you often nightkilled?

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Only reason I'm note feeling Obscurity is that it seems like they would be less obvious.

Vote: Obscurity

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Only reason I'm note feeling Obscurity is that it seems like they would be less obvious.

Vote: Obscurity

Ewwww...

Nah, it's actually got chocolate in the center- it's delicious!

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Why does literally everyone ask this question do people think it's some super awesome question or something it doesnt seem that awesome

I usually ask it to see who is scumhunting and who is scum just hopping on the mislynch.

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@ika/@Ankimus Not feeling obscurity. Can you join me on Adelina?

Is there something you like as town about them?

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@Titus- 766 is referring to Obscurity

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@Farside- out of town this weekend- V/LA.

[PeregrineV]

Sure- something to do.

Investigative: Titus
Protective: PeregrineV
Manipulative (JK/RB/other): Ankamius
Kill: Elmo

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After I'm lynched, look at LMP and Plagiarist

What point is Plagarist trying to make in 886?

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I really think PereV is scum, btw~

Really really, or just really?

[PeregrineV]

PV claim, we are doign amss rolecall. your up

Yeah, nope.

[PeregrineV]

PV claim, we are doign amss rolecall. your up

Yeah, nope.

To clarify, I may or may not claim, and if I do it will be last.

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unless if you are claiming what i beieve you are.....

theor sepc for everyone: 3 scums or 4?

i think i am overthinking it by having 4 scums and an sk in a 16 p game adn that in actuality we have 3 scums to begin with (2 now that domos dead)

16 players I'd think 4 mafia (3 with DOMO dead).
SK changes it maybe- it says SK watcher but lets assume watch & kill?
In that case maybe 2 left (I personally don't like to include SK in my scum:town ratio when making games, but you do have to take into account nightkills. And the town vig was activated, not full vig).

[PeregrineV]

I am King of the Moon also King of Everything. I have some highly confusing flavor that might make sense if I knew the character, but I can tell whether people are power roles or not (I get PMed by the moderator "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla" but apparently Vanilla includes mafia without power roles too). I have two results on people who are still alive, which I think is best not to reveal at least until the end of this claiming business as there may be a reason why a town would lie and I don't want to out that until we have everything established. I reserve the right not to reveal if I think it's the best move, though.

The Adventures of Baron Munhcausen

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I have a list of things that are sent.

You know, stop fishing right now because I want perev to actually full claim before i do, thanks

Ain't gonna happen, especially after this claim.

Still want Elmo to go first.

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Still want Elmo to go first.

Glad I'm gonna be V/LA this weekend.

I probably will too, but since I'll be home I might check in.

[PeregrineV]

pv who did you target last night?

that much will suffice your already known to be a pr

Pretty sure you already know, so not sure why you are asking.

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Investigative: Elmo/Evil
Protective: Peregrine
Manipulative (JK/RB/other): ika (JK), Adrien (RB)
Kill: Adrien/Ank

remember this activity?

he claims investigative role, yet who he DID check is not a player he listed in the investigative category.

Because he already checked him?

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Kk perev.

You are around.. claim pls

Yeah, no, no claim here. Let's hear what Ika game-broke first.

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I'll take that as a good sign, but today is a new day.

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mala did you figure out why i didnt want titus targeting anyone?

Yes but i still dont like how i was almost fed to the wolves

elaborate?

i know my plan worked but the mod didnt diclose everything to me.

i want to see if anyone can figure out what i did first

I hope you universally roleblocked.

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Seeking replacement for Elmo.

Let's see what new-Elmo has to say. Maybe a fresh pair of eyes will help.

[PeregrineV]

Alright guys, I had the wish today. I considered keeping it, and using it for a protective purpose, and that's why I was interested in how specifically ika used it. However, since we're potentially in MYLO, we can't necessarily count on a night protection to actually help us win.

So, here is what I've wished for: I have wished that the mod will quote the ending vote count of yesterday, state how many players alive at that time were not aligned with town, and how many of those not aligned with town were on that lynching wagon. I think those two pieces of information are critical to use navigating our current position to a win.

So now we'll both know exactly how many scum we're still facing, and even more critically, how many are among that wagon (and conversely NOT on the wagon). Should be very revealing.

Now that it's been granted, who are the 2 and why them?

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A puff of smoke appears in the sky.

A voice comes booming.

"A blast from the past"

Suddenly you see this appear.

Vote count

:

Peregrine (0)
AdrienC (5) Titus, Anakamius, plagiarist, Ika, LynchMePls
Ankamius (0)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (0)
Lynchmepls (1) andrienC
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (1) Evil Regals

Not voting:

Peregrinev, Elmo

Voice: The knowledge you seek is 3 town and 2 are not.


The smoke clears.

This makes shos and Evil confirmed town. Would like them to start dumping total thoughts into the thread about the 2 remaining scum, and how they came to that read.

[PeregrineV]

Alright guys, I had the wish today. I considered keeping it, and using it for a protective purpose, and that's why I was interested in how specifically ika used it. However, since we're potentially in MYLO, we can't necessarily count on a night protection to actually help us win.

So, here is what I've wished for: I have wished that the mod will quote the ending vote count of yesterday, state how many players alive at that time were not aligned with town, and how many of those not aligned with town were on that lynching wagon. I think those two pieces of information are critical to use navigating our current position to a win.

So now we'll both know exactly how many scum we're still facing, and even more critically, how many are among that wagon (and conversely NOT on the wagon). Should be very revealing.

A puff of smoke appears in the sky.

A voice comes booming.

"A blast from the past"

Suddenly you see this appear.

Vote count

:

Peregrine (0)
AdrienC (5) Titus, Anakamius, plagiarist, Ika, LynchMePls
Ankamius (0)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (0)
Lynchmepls (1) andrienC
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (1) Evil Regals

Not voting:

Peregrinev, Elmo

Voice: The knowledge you seek is 3 town and 2 are not.


The smoke clears.

HOLEY MOMMA! this helps me in my reading.

Alright guys, I had the wish today. I considered keeping it, and using it for a protective purpose, and that's why I was interested in how specifically ika used it. However, since we're potentially in MYLO, we can't necessarily count on a night protection to actually help us win.

So, here is what I've wished for: I have wished that the mod will quote the ending vote count of yesterday, state how many players alive at that time were not aligned with town, and how many of those not aligned with town were on that lynching wagon. I think those two pieces of information are critical to use navigating our current position to a win.

So now we'll both know exactly how many scum we're still facing, and even more critically, how many are among that wagon (and conversely NOT on the wagon). Should be very revealing.

Now that it's been granted, who are the 2 and why them?

The idea was to partition the remaining players, hoping that one of the pools would contain more scum than the other. As for who are the two scum, I'd bet a large sum of money on Plagiarist. The claim is already hugely suspicious, and the play has been equally bad. I honestly don't see how Ika is scum here, so that seems to imply Titus as the other, but there is still a lot of confusion around those roles. I think, given this most recent revelation, we need full claims from everyone with full targets and wishes and everything. My only hesitation on Titus is that Bodyguard is an insanely bold fake claim for scum. When PRs keep dying and he doesn't, it puts him in an incredibly awkward position.

This makes shos and Evil confirmed town. Would like them to start dumping total thoughts into the thread about the 2 remaining scum, and how they came to that read.

Not so fast, I asked for the total number of non-town to also be stated, and that wasn't explicitly stated. Have a PM out about it right now. If there are only 2 remaining scum, then yes, those slots are conf. Will advise when I've heard back, hopefully it'll get cleaned up in thread.

@LMP- you are correct- was confusing this with mini, so thinking 3-1.

However, 16 is usually 4, so is it 4mafia+SK, or 3mafia+1 SK= 4?

@shos- please think about setup before clearing based on wish results.

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I think it's also plagiarist and Ank.

I'm not really sure about Titus. Like, she hates bussing her scum buddies and that's what happened with DoMo.

The way lynch used the wish feels town, but don't let him ride town red for it if he's in lylo.

Ika unless he's scum stealing what I been giving him doesn't feel scum. He could have killed both Titus and I before mass claim because he knew we both had Pr's.

@perev:

Why the hell don't you do anything? Are you scum? Are you the genie? Who used had the wish N1??

I'm doing plenty.
No.
Perhaps.
Dead scum.

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ok, I *love* the plagiarist's ISO. it is awesome, time-invested, scumhunting, and is well, ubertown.

Ika and titus are my guesses. let's see how they face each other.
also Plag, are you an alt?


pedit:
haven't read yet, in a mo

What about the lack of a NK last night?

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@Farside- V/LA Oct 24-Oct 27

[PeregrineV]

I am King of the Moon also King of Everything. I have some highly confusing flavor that might make sense if I knew the character, but I can tell whether people are power roles or not (I get PMed by the moderator "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla" but apparently Vanilla includes mafia without power roles too). I have two results on people who are still alive, which I think is best not to reveal at least until the end of this claiming business as there may be a reason why a town would lie and I don't want to out that until we have everything established. I reserve the right not to reveal if I think it's the best move, though.

The Adventures of Baron Munhcausen

This isn't a claim from PV. It's a reference to the movie. Baron Munchausen is the movie where Robin Williams plays the king of the moon.

All of us are roles played by Robin Williams. So no PV did not claim here.

Nope, just showing my knowledge of trivia. I liked that movie, and Robin played a giant head on a saucer.

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@Farside- V/LA Oct 24-Oct 27

[PeregrineV]

@Farside- V/LA Oct 24-Oct 27

Wow. Is it that hard to bold?

[PeregrineV]

I wish Pokerface wasn't killed, but glad he got his spinach.

[PeregrineV]

If PV is not the genie, then that makes sense.

PV's wishtrail can also show who cut that lynch short when DOMO tried to frame/fish me.

DOMO used his wish to cut the day short.

[PeregrineV]

I wish Pokerface wasn't killed, but glad he got his spinach.

How do we know this?

It's in his flip description. He is a spinach-activated Vig, and he vigged DOMO.

[PeregrineV]

Why couldn't DOMO flip be Nacho's kill?

I didn't even think about that. You're probably right, since reading Pokerface he had a townread on DOMO.

In which case,

[PeregrineV]

Guys, can you please make a list of claims, preferably with links to the places where they claimed?
also are we sure there are only 2 scums in the game yet and not 3? the game started with 16, and 3+SK is highly townfavorable imo. 4 scum in a 16p makes sense.

4 scum (not counting the SK), means one of you or Evil Regals is scum.

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Guys, can you please make a list of claims, preferably with links to the places where they claimed?
also are we sure there are only 2 scums in the game yet and not 3? the game started with 16, and 3+SK is highly townfavorable imo. 4 scum in a 16p makes sense.

4 scum (not counting the SK), means one of you or Evil Regals is scum.

That is, assuming LMP is town.

Not really. Even if we assume LMP is scum, unless her wish was to make Farside post erroneous information as mod-confirmation of a game fact (thereby making it a bastard game), then we can still assume 2 scum on the adrien wagon, which leaves my question above the same.

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That DOMO-titus interaction. Wow. Either it was a brilliant scum-scum gambit (and I mean fucking BRILLIANT), or titus is pretty much guaranteed town. I mean, so brilliant, I'd be willing to lose the game to it.

Maybe we should just lynch plagiarist. Gonna wait for tomorrow, and then, unless anyone I have a strong town read on has an objection to moving the game along, I'll be voting.

While I am town, I am known for being devious scum here.

PV, I want an accounting of all wishes in a post.

VOTE: Ank

I know one of ER or PV must be town if LMP is town (scum would not use sensor) but I cannot trust either of them.

I didn't make them, so can't really tell you more than what's already in the thread.

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Vote count:

Peregrine (0)
Ankamius (1)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (0)
Lynchmepls (0)
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (2) ika, evil

Not voting:

everyone else

With 9 alive it will take 5 to lynch
(expired on 2014-10-31 08:30:00)

I'm giving plag till the end of day to respond.

shso is voting Ank in 1252

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Guys, can you please make a list of claims, preferably with links to the places where they claimed?
also are we sure there are only 2 scums in the game yet and not 3? the game started with 16, and 3+SK is highly townfavorable imo. 4 scum in a 16p makes sense.

4 scum (not counting the SK), means one of you or Evil Regals is scum.

That is, assuming LMP is town.

Not really. Even if we assume LMP is scum, unless her wish was to make Farside post erroneous information as mod-confirmation of a game fact (thereby making it a bastard game), then we can still assume 2 scum on the adrien wagon, which leaves my question above the same.

First, it's "his", not "her".

Second, FWIW, shos had a point when he observed that the mod just said "The answer you seek is 3 town and 2 non-town". So, it wouldn't be "bastard" if I wished something like "Just post in thread 'The answer you seek is 3 town and 2 non-town'". Also, on further thought, even were that not the case, I think this situation would fall under "lies that can be reasonably expected". So, you'll have to factor your read of me into how much you trust the wagon sensor.

@Titus:

Here is the information we have on the wishes:

DOMO: Wished to end D2 early.
ika: Wished to mass-doc N4 + have night targets declared.
LMP: Wished to wagon sensor D5 and have results announced in thread.

Still waiting on Plagiarist.

I assume that you are thinking that since you made the setup for the "mod statement" that the "mod statement" is not technically a lie, therefore not bastard. But, as the statement does imply gamestate information through the use of game vocabulary ("town","non-town"), then mod-confirmation of the gamestate through the mod's statement is probably accurate.

If you are scum trying to be sneaky, then the wagon has only 1 scum, and shos+Evil are scum, or the wagon has 3 scum, and you hope to slip the last one by (yourself, logically) after your buddies are lynched.

@shos- Kind of think both of these things are unlikely, so assuming 4 scum, 2 on the wagon, one dead, that still leaves you or Evil Regals.

[PeregrineV]

PV why did you give LMP the wish?

LMP probably got the wish because the other "town" weren't "town" enough for the chance to be taken, I'm guessing.

[PeregrineV]

[read: convince me that he is town.]

Whoa there.... I'm not Superman.

8 Ankamius lowercase cloud nine- Wasn't happening
9: Ika POWERFUL TOWNIE- prevented NK night 4
11 Evil Regals - some JOAT thing, but haven't deveoped the townreead I had expected to on the slot
13 shos ELMO TEH AZN- Played with Elmo, and flaking isn't alignment indicative. still trying to get my read on you.
14 LynchMePls Not the mafia- NtM seemed noobish and mislynch bait, but could have been playing the noob card. Expected ika death n4, so figure see where an LMP wish took us (another short day would indicate scum)
15 Titus manfredd- Haven't seen Town-Titus yet. Also haven't fully identified scum-Titus yet.
16 The Plagiarist- Wasn't happening

[PeregrineV]

...

That's under the assumption theres 4 scum..

3:1:12
Doesn't sound too bad balance wise especially with three kills in one night happening.

See, like this.

You saw the Farside post, 2 on the wagon are scum.

Do you believe LMP made the wish as he stated?

Do you believe there are only 2 scum left?

I think town-Evil Regals would be sand-blasting shos-slot with pressure in order to determine town or scum, and once that was determined, could then, with clear focus, determine the 2 scum on the Adrien wagon.

But I've not seen that. I've seen going-with-the-flow type play.

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Plagiarist

LAL. Also, he's scum.

LAL is day1, unless caught-scum. Let's use our day5 play.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: Evil Regals
He seems to be scum with ika, I think.
His claim is fishy and he seems to have not actually claimed actions at all. One night I see that he claims to have been roleblocked, which is really kinda useless in a game where the only actual PR is a vig. Also, and this is the biggest and heaviest thing, he keeps claiming that there are only 2 scum left. why would town say that? think that? town cannot possibly say that without any actual reasons. scum, however, can throw it into the air so that town catch it and think that it isn't mylo.

Basically, I am confident that PV is town, and by now LMP too. ER is the lone scum outside of the wagon that is described in the mod's wish-post.

I, too, would like a night action list from Evil. Can someone quote themselves giving those actions?

[PeregrineV]

ER said somewhere that PV was a 3-shot, is that just bullshit?

I will confirm that I may or may not have more wishes, if I am, in fact, a possible genie role.

If any discussion of the nature of the wishes occurred, then it was probably stated what wishes cannot grant abilities (cop, doc, etc.), although it appears that certain wishes can mimic the final effects of those abiltiies.

Also, has it been confirmed why there was no kill last night?

[PeregrineV]

In case it got missed-

List of Evil Regals night targets and inventions, please.

[PeregrineV]

Also , on-wagon, preferring Ank at the moment. 17 hours left.

[PeregrineV]

At this point Plaguruist or Ank is good as a lynch. Too much going on for them to no comment on.

[PeregrineV]

Also pereV you said the same thing in Hp3. That you expected me to town it up. Then you said that you meant another player. You used the same wording there as here.

I always do, but I thought Evil was a hydra account. And I recall town Evil from Knight Errant where I wanted you lynched early. And I think I'm also confusing you for another player.

Meanwhile,

You saw the Farside post, 2 on the wagon are scum.

Do you believe LMP made the wish as he stated?

Do you believe there are only 2 scum left?

[PeregrineV]

Also pereV you said the same thing in Hp3. That you expected me to town it up. Then you said that you meant another player. You used the same wording there as here.

I always do, but I thought Evil was a hydra account. And I recall town Evil from Knight Errant where I wanted you lynched early. And I think I'm also confusing you for another player.

Meanwhile,

You saw the Farside post, 2 on the wagon are scum.

Do you believe LMP made the wish as he stated?

Do you believe there are only 2 scum left?

You Evil not you mala.

[PeregrineV]

@Poker- Since you got the wish night2, if you lived, what would you have wished for (now knowing better Farside's parameters)?

[PeregrineV]

@ika- I decided to see how you used the wish to figure if you were scum. If you used it in a scum-like manner, then I would have just claimed to have you lynched. When your wish did happen the way you said it, I was a little suspicious, but let it go. Decided to give one to LMP because figured you would die. When you didn't, and LMP did a town act with the wish, hoped you had the vest and sent it to you the last night.

@Farside- congrats on the new job!!