Robin Williams Mafia - rememberance - game over

[ika]

now im getting confused myself...

titus how goes VCA

[ika]

im wondering if scums are just all goons and they get powers by other means...

that being said anything else anyone has to add otherwise im going to vote AC and anyone can hammer

@titus: dont target me tonight, just trust me.

im going to give this about an hr or so beofre i cast vote

[ika]

mala outside of your role, why should i consider you town?

[ika]

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we shall see how this shall do

VOTE: AC

i have a feeling tonight will decide a lot of things....

[ika]

no.

titus is to target nobody like shes saying

[ika]

yes mala really.

[ika]

facinating.....

if worked

[ika]

mala did you figure out why i didnt want titus targeting anyone?

[ika]

mala did you figure out why i didnt want titus targeting anyone?

Yes but i still dont like how i was almost fed to the wolves

elaborate?

i know my plan worked but the mod didnt diclose everything to me.

i want to see if anyone can figure out what i did first

[ika]

PV is half right.

that probally would of been better but think more action-wise

[ika]

VOTE: plauge

im moving on wth my life

[ika]

PV is half right.

that probally would of been better but think more action-wise

My role in Upick fire and ice?

sigh.....

did you noticed how we had no death last night?
if no, well now you do!

does it click yet?

ill wait a bit longer then spoil it. but everyone eneds to look at flavor, if it somehow matches yours you need to speak up

[ika]

lol i am vt though?

i never claimed to have powers....

[ika]

i said someone visited me

[ika]

thats how i gained my "powers" no contridction but you sad attempt at me was a nice ploy

[ika]

i said someone visited me

thats how i gained my "powers" no contridction but you sad attempt at me was a nice ploy

[ika]

then vote me.

you can rub that in all you like but i expalined it so you can shut up now

[ika]

titus have you figuered out why there were no death yet?

i would say somethign else but meh

[ika]

no she didnt, someone else gave me that.

lets say that the flavor of the day start should point towards who was going to die

[ika]

plauge are you just going to continue that or are you jsut going to admit your scum?

[ika]

i have clarified my "contridiction" already so your argument your making itmoot point

[ika]

ika, is there a benefit to having us play 20 questions about what you did last night? If so, I'm not seeing it.

Not sure what to make of Plagiarist's hard push here. Flailing scum I guess.

somehwhat, keeps dicussion going at least.

[ika]

shoulnt of been.

[ika]

cus in involves someone else and i still dont fully know how their role works.

i have a feeling that the mod decided to try to outgame me on the "let me break setup"

[ika]

who ever said it was a protective that targeted me?

[ika]

ok im getting board.

last phase i got a wish and wished that the next time mafia nk would fail and whoever was attacked would be announced that they survived.

however the mod said the falvor is saying who survived. so it ruined my intial plan of trying to break it

[ika]

doubt its me i had to go to the hydra account to find it

[ika]

and the game makes full circle......

mala its your turn to claim now

also the genie is to have the bg at all times

[ika]

guts say that it was lynchmeplz slot who got the wish and wished for day to end early

[ika]

dont answer the list qustion

[ika]

that one i rather keep under wraps.

i still have that other invesgative item you gave me

[ika]

your slot claimed to be a pr and you have a power

[ika]

you should claim and tell us. we like, already did mass call

[ika]

lol

im being seriosu though we mass role called already. good to see we still have you

i should compile the claims

[ika]

3 peregrinev - geinie
8 Ankamius - vt
9: Ika - vt
11 Evil Regals - inventor
13 shos - vt
14 LynchMePls - vt
15 Titus - bg
16 The Plagiarist - some sort of investigative shit

tell me when your all caught up

[ika]

shos is town, i was trying the amish tell XD

anyway read the rest of the game then come back i can wait

as for genie think aladdin, wish granter

[ika]

yet you were saying elmo was town, are you saying the slot isnt?

[ika]

i dont have too mich tim e(heading to school breifly but this makes thing intresting.

gj lynch me. my pland did slightly backfire but now we have a solid POE pool

[ika]

ok i got internet at class but when teach comes in i dunno if i can stick around.

@titus: do VCA with the new info

i need to iso and figure stuff out

[ika]

Ika, what do you think of Titus's play until now?

shes busy irl and its been sitewide thing, doesnt factor into it

The postcount is tiny which is unlike titus-town. Even the content of those posts is mehish.

ok so?

also consider the fact i am near universal townread and that if i was scum i have been playing suboptiomaly ya im going to disregard you

[ika]

i know, but if you read how the damn day developed you would see that it was going to be that basicly

i think one or both scums reside in the early 3 voters

if you want to continue this arguement with me i will darg you into a full 1v1 with me right now

[ika]

shos the fact is i dont give a fucking damn. my mood is currently pissed, annoyed and fed up

i have:
-been pretty transparent
-been trying to coordinate everytihng
-pushign for players to take stances
-used my item i was given in a protown way (i got track from evil and something else)
-i had an entire convo with titus where she claimed bg to me

at this point im like fed up with people and about half of my damn games.
im fed up with trying to solve a damn game only to be like "nope ignore" to me
im fed up with trying to break games only for people to yell at me for it
im fuckign fed up that you replace in and legit think im scum at this point.

i:
-got a wish and could of used it in so many better ways if i was scum
-could of used my track to frame someone
-could of just flat out nked titus when she claimed and then fake that it was someone else

do you really think im going to play that suboptimal?

[ika]

you probally already said this but what was the wording of you wish and what did mod say and stuff.

the last few pages and everything have been me in pissedoff mood so i like only glossed it

[ika]

ok thats works if you read my iso i was doign the same thign with mod by playing the 20 quesiton game.

i have an idea on a new one we could do but we have to get past today

[ika]

you should target PV if he has another shot.

anthign outside of that i would take as a scum claim

[ika]

titus, have you been reading the thread?

[ika]

she hasnt been reading the thread as careful as i would like to to be doing.....

[ika]

titus, who GRANTS the wishes in aladdin?

[ika]

omg.....

titus are you a scum!doc?

sk!watcher would fit scum!doc (or doc in gneral) perfectly

[ika]

then explain how i got a wish yesterday and how lynch me plz got his wish?

[ika]

was to prevent the nk and that whoeevr was targeted would be announced at day start.

the mod told me that the flavor of day start is the "announcement"

thats why im trying to figure out whos flavor it fits

[ika]

shos we are lynching form the wagon today.

you attempting a vanity wagona t this point is liek a scum claim to me as well

pedit: i can answer, 3 are town on the lynch, 2 are not

so if you go by the premisies that its a 3 man scum team both have to be on the wagon

[ika]

im starting to wonder if plauge is scum or not with shos awkardness of this

[ika]

hmmmmm.......

PV target me tonight im gonna use that wish sensor thign again or try to figure out some other idea

[ika]

AdrienC (5) Titus, Anakamius, plagiarist, Ika, LynchMePls

this is the wagon

evil is not on it, so who is the scum from here if its 2?

[ika]

if he does flip vanilla cop (town) btw i would look into ank next. if he flips scum this means that PV is autocleared as well as me by targeting (in b4 someon says WIFOM)

[ika]

knwo what fuck this

VOTE: ank

3rd wheel counterwagon go

ill move back to plauge for deadline but if we are going to just bicker of this lets go this way

[ika]

BOTH OF YOU SHUT UP WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS TOMMOROW IF YOUR BOTH ALIVE

[ika]

i see shos side of the argument as well and he might be onto somethign but its not a topic that we have time for with deadline this close

so you guys can continue the piss fight or help me lynch ank who i am now inclined ot belive is a scumbutt

pedit: titus is a bg?

[ika]

wait.....

lmp did you ask it "how many scums are on the wagon" or "how many non-towns" could it be we have a diffrent 3rd party?

[ika]

somethigns not adding up now with this.....

[ika]

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THERE CAN BE ONLY THREE SCUMS?!?!??!

yes. i have played setups of all kinda where its staged against other sides and such i take everything into account

pedit: you seem to be missing the fact that i coem from another site where anything is just about possible and i always tryt o take into accoutn everything possible

if you want to setup spec this stuff with me go right the fuck ahead but its just not going to budge with me

OR you can legit help me lynch ank who i think is scum as well?

[ika]

moot point to me, i still take into account anything that can happen

i rather have this game go into lylo with PV giving me a wish and titus BG him. im fairly confident there is somethign that we are missing in this huge chain

[ika]

shos, i see your point but i dont think we have enought time in the day to get the momentum for it

if you can get enogh people to vote i will gladly hammer, but i think right now with the porgression+time constaint we cant get it moving.

im gonna be around but do continue. i see where you are going with this

[ika]

but hammer vote is shiny

[ika]

VOTE: evil

[ika]

n1: ???
n2: gave me 1-shot track
n3: gave me something else
n4: claimed rbed

im fine between ank/evil pluge still irks me but i guess we can leave him

[ika]

that should be he actions accounted for so far

[ika]

so then you lied about not knowing what could be sent?

[ika]

but just a swcond ago you said you knew what was passed out....

[ika]

how about this evil, do you have any more items to give?

[ika]

well i got the track the bp and nothign else so far.....

i dont recall saying i got 3 by you.

the night you gave me BP pv also gave me wish

[ika]

lets jsut drop this shit for tommorow assuming we are all alive to dicuss it

VOTE: ank

ank or plage vote now

[ika]

well befr we go harsh votingn i have one final ace in the hole, the final wish

[ika]

how about this: who got the roleblock 2 nights ago?

[ika]

i do want to hear from titus but its not a bad idea to use it on that cus it also doube downs on the first one

[ika]

i got school and class and stuff so i will be back

[ika]

mala who got the roleblock 2 nights ago

[ika]

i want everoye to look at all the vc and decide which one should have wagon concens.

heck we could even try to organize votes toDay so i can wagon conceus is on that specifci VC

i might grab all the vc to line them up but i think there are better ways then to jsut fight 1v1 titus in that, the wish while does get us either 2 town firmed or 1v1. i rather try to maxamize it instead of jsut jummpign it foward

[ika]

hold on i think something is fuckign with me now. i jsut checked the genie pm and its not the default "you got a wish"

im gonnga see if its mod error or is there some fuckery going on

[ika]

-.-

mod lied to me

[ika]

i only have a rb right now

[ika]

-.-

so again farside had to correct it that i did get genie.

ihave a feeling mala is hiding something from us

[ika]

you understand i can sensor any wagons right now?

and that we can match up votes on players right now to make our own wagon sensor?

[ika]

i want to hear everyones ideas.

i rather have us do a customized wagon toDay

[ika]

i can ask

[ika]

i have an idea, i, going to see if wishing to know how many scums are in player XYZ is vaild

[ika]

if so im going to put it between titus, me and ank

[ika]

everyone name 3 players you would like to see in the wish

im prob going to do it that "how many scums are in XYZ"

[ika]

im thinking titus me ank only b/c titus doesnt want it

[ika]

i already plan on using myself so it cant be baised of "OMG IKA WIFOMING"

[ika]

well i cant ask for spcific ppl (against alignment rules)

but i am going to see if the wagon one is still ok

[ika]

if anything im gong to sensor wagon the 3 players or me/you

and we can either both be confirmed town and be realistic ICs or we can result in a 1v1 fight

[ika]

ok so the mod calrified i can just go "i want to knwo scum from XYZ"

i can do it from any wagons though.

atm i have im leanign to do a 2-3 person wagon sense so we have a clearcut idea

[ika]

i cant go

"i want to knwo how many scums reside in titus, ika, LMP"

i can go

"i want to know how many scum reside in this wagon if the wagon has "titus, me, lmp" i can do it.

its kinda like a loophole of the rules if we could get all of us on simataniously we could cordinate a vote where we all vote one player (someone we agree is scums o no turbo blitz shit) and then i grant the wish

[ika]

this does rely on mod allowing me to just have us use indivdiual posts as well so im asking for claification on that

[ika]

Confirming me is bad. I protect conftown made. Hence why we crnsor no voters on the wagon I quoted

the more you argue that you dont want to be censor the more im instant on doing it

[ika]

how so?

[ika]

Titus' play since my catchup and until now seems completely illogical on my end. add to taht the 'i think' part about his claim, add the fact that there wasn't any resistance (apart me) for ank & plag (meaning at least one is town); add the fact that he's in LMP's pool - and add the flipped roles in combo with a goon flip...yeah.

does anyone have an objection to me + titus wagon sensor? (other then titus )

if anything it will clear up stuff for us

[ika]

im good with that if i can get confirmation from farside that if i caun use the voting timeframe i will see if we can quickly sync up votes and unvote so we cant do an shnanigans

[ika]

@titus, you understand the wishmaker is like the most broken thing around?

[ika]

Obscurity (4) The Plagiarist, Brandi, evil, Ankamius

holder post for vcs that i wan to look at

[ika]

AdrienC (2) Titus, Anakamius

[ika]

The Plagiarist (3) ika, evil, lmp

[ika]

The Plagiarist (3) evil, lmp, shos

Not voting:

ankamius, pere, plagiarist

[ika]

Obscurity (4) The Plagiarist, Brandi, evil, Ankamius

holder post for vcs that i wan to look at

AdrienC (2) Titus, Anakamius

The Plagiarist (3) ika, evil, lmp

The Plagiarist (3) evil, lmp, shos

Not voting:

ankamius, pere, plagiarist

these are the main ones i want to look at. in cross refrence

we know this much:

Titus, Anakamius, plagiarist, Ika, LynchMePls
2 scums reside in here

we know that the only lineup there i could get ank+plauge in a vc is the last one (i havent looked at rest of nonvoters)

pedit: i would be doing one or the ohter not both

[ika]

if it said there was one scum in those 3 i would assume ti would be mala tbh

[ika]

-.-

your missing the fact that mala has been supplying me stuff to counter scums as well and i plan on using it to find out where scums are?

i have work im going to look this over, evereont need to keep posting and thoughs and stuff. somethings not adding up

[ika]

have you been reading the last day y/n?

there has beena lot of dicussion about it.

the last part is just guts

[ika]

hmmmmm

im annoyed.

i want everyone to answer these 2 questions with no reasons:

is it lylo?
who are your top suspects for scum (name 3)

i think its not lylo
and i think the scum team is ank/plauge/with mala

@mala if your wondering why call it an irking supicion

[ika]

im trying to see if i can just use a timeframe of our posts where we voted to coodinated

worst case scnario we have to sync up to vote and ask mod for vc so i can

if we do that i say one of us selfvotes and other 2 vote and get mod to make vc

[ika]

dang it mod said no, its starting to be borderline abusing the wish

so we can all vote and hope for a VC to show up and then use it if possible otherwise i need to look at the vc and decide

[ika]

shos/lmp when you guys get around we can get to voting one of us and then see if we can get mod to make a vc athat i can senseor

[ika]

VOTE: lmp

i should be around for a bit to be able to qickly hop off if anyone tries shaninigans

if i have to be gone for a bit i will unvote as well

[ika]

i send mod a pm to have a vc for us

[ika]

@MOD: VC pls.

2nd!

need to troll and have some fun

[ika]

dont tell her we cant blow our cover of us trying to be intread masons

[ika]

well evil cooperating can rule out her being a scum gunning for fast track lynch

@ my suspicion, call it guts, its one fo those things that makes too much sense to be true

[ika]

btw if we all get town on the wagon sensor, i can break it by coodrinating actions and cach someone in a lie

[ika]

UNVOTE:

give me a moment on wii u again

[ika]

and we are good

[ika]

mod decided to not let me b/c it breaking the rule of disconcerning aligments -.-

[ika]

well im open to ideas about wish

i was thinking about asking how many scums are alive or is it lylo

[ika]

im still wating on something.

im wondering if mod made the change now or that its the VC itself that is th problem

[ika]

you knwo you could like give ideas?

otherwise i would be content with lynching you first

[ika]

are you going to do the activities or give out a read list?

[ika]

are you going to do the activities or give out a read list?

[ika]

that should be enough of a start for you

[ika]

how about we drop the issue and move on?

we can talk about it post game, any idea on wishes?

i mentioned the "is it lylo" idea but nobody said anything

norammly i would be trying to abuse the wish to the max but i dont got much for an idea

[ika]

doubt it.

i could explain what happened but i will save it for post game for mod to explain.

[ika]

dobut interactions is scum/scum

the issue thing is what can be told post game

[ika]

if it was a gambit it would of been orcastrated by domo

i think sk killed him out of fear

VOTE: ank

this is where i want to lynch

also remember i have a 1-shot rb so if he flips scum i can rb other

[ika]

i can do either/or right now.

given the fact that evil posted while we were doign that stuff means shes prob not scum if its lylo

[ika]

LMP is scum
Less sure about Evil Regals being scum than I used to be for role reasons
Don't remember any kind of read on Elmo so shos is null
You're probably town because LMP is scum
Titus and Plagiarist -> prob other scum between them. Titus because role isn't confirmable and Plag because of the ika-pressure followed by nothing.

anyone wanna bet that plauge is the scum when he named 2

[ika]

BUT ER IS SUPPLIYING ME STUFF TO USE SO IT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AT THIS POINT

[ika]

VOTE: ank

[ika]

i can do either or i just notice ank posting elsewhere.

if plague end up getting replaced i would lynch him just so save mod time

[ika]

titus and plauge need to claim who they targeted.

i have the most broken item in my possession now...

a 1-shot cop

also seeing how me, shos, lmp are all town we know its one scum

[ika]

although we should jsut tubo-lynch one of the 2 and if we are wrong it would be moot point

[ika]

huh
why the fuck would they kill ER

probally b/c with the RBer flip, shes confirmed town and a claimed PR

does it also help right now that no matter who we lynch of the 2 i just rb the other?

[ika]

so unless if we have bastard mod who lied in the wish, its impossible for the final scum to win b/c we lynch one, i can rb the other and force the failure of the kill leaving all of us intact

[ika]

sooooooooooooo

who are we gonna do first?

i have my vote ready to do either player and if we are doing titus i have dibs on hammer

[ika]

VOTE: titus

my long awaited hammer that i wanted on titus is here

[ika]

(please say that you're not scum with lmp)

shos, seriosuly quit derping

[ika]

also if titus is town im just going to rb plauge and prevent the kill

[ika]

ika won't die. If ika dies, we're already confirmed, since his flip will prove his wish was genuine.

correction, i cant die, i have a BP

[ika]

ROFL

IRK, the inventor gave me a shit fuck of stuff

[ika]

titus if your indeed town you used your role in the most suboptimal format ever

[ika]

really the game could only be over is lmp is scum with plauge and he made it so that the mod didnt include him on the VC

[ika]

really the game could only be over is lmp is scum with plauge and he made it so that the mod didnt include him on the VC

But your wish should have me confirmed to you. What gives here?

it does, im just amusing shos with conspircy theiroes

[ika]

yes, you are. conspiracy is the best.
but really though, if plag isn't the lone scum alive, I have no idea what is possible

mafia traitor that does not count as scum?

[ika]

Just lynch Plag tomorrow.

nah we are all going to jack off and be lazy mofos.

tbh if you are town its never a real game unless you are myslynched XD

[ika]

i really would love to troll and stall this but the roleblock worked.

VOTE: plauge

i was debating between doing a cop for lolz but meh it makes sense that town!inventor that can pass out 1-shot cops added in with plauge role is like a soft CC

[ika]

boop?

[ika]

im going to say if LMP is a traitor who counts for living town or something i will state openly i wont be mad about it

i think it would be slightly amusing tbh

[ika]

nvm his last visit was the 14 so he hasnt even checked in

[ika]

i think the setup was somewhat townsided with all the powers

it was even more broken by the fact that all the powers were basicly funnled to me

[ika]

i think the setup was somewhat townsided with all the powers

it was even more broken by the fact that all the powers were basicly funnled to me

[ika]

ill have more later but im at school right now

[ika]

it was lowercase/nacho who was sk.

i kinda glanced though dead and had a good chuckle.

what i liked:
-mostly the fact it was a remembrance of robin williams
-players: lots of them were people who i thoughly enjoyed and would most likely play with again
-roles: inventor is a neat role and i love the genie one (however i would not put them together again mostly b/c they are borken together)
-mod: while the VC was sparce it was fun to play overall

what i disliked:
-vc: as stated was sparce but i understand RL
-powers: as stated i think it was very town-heavy (as seen this game) it was easily abused by funneling to a universal town read
-scums: while i also agree lurking is viable, it kinda detracts from the entire game as well, i wish you guys made some quips or comments to maybe stir the pot a bit, the lurkign for the most part allowed us to POE everyone

about the error:
i do say that it was kinda "bad" that we broke it by a mod error but at the same time i do want to say that the role itelf is very fickel and could easily be exploited. i think it was fair to adjust it as the game went on and have nothing against that

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9: Ika - me, needs to be less derp at times
13 shos - i have to say your play, i still find funny at times, we need to hydra
14 LynchMePls - man playing with you was fun, i think if you didnt i would of still thought that slot was scum if not for the wish
16 The Plagiarist - maybe we can see you as town
Baezu - sorry for just going hammer, but as i have said before, i have seen too many players get away l-1 by a mere claim.
Reinoe - still makes no sense why they killed you, you were an obvious VT
Dybeck - this perplexted my why you died, i hope to find out in PT, i dont reacll much but would play again
Pokerface - i so wish you did vig, but meh, i was hoping to go full POE on this game and using you as a vig would of been fabulous
Domo - ironicly, i asked about a BG having a gun and they do when they die in a dule so you were hafl right on her having a gun, would play with you again
Nachomamma8 - im going to say it now, nacho was the MAIN reason why i tracked plauge of all people, when he said he was scum i tracked him in hopes to catch killing, but his claim and me derp caused me to stall it
Brandi - you were one of the unaligneds so it was good to bounce ideas with you
TheAdrienC adelina - sorry for that, i was in derp for a part of it, i should of stayed with you and fight it
Peregrine - best actions giving it to me, when im given somethign that can bend (or break) rules i will exploit it to the max and think diffrently about it
Ankamius - it was the activity that kinda pointed towards you
Evil Regals - it only made sense why his cop claim was a direct CC to you after i got the item, but unfrotanely i derped about it
Titus - titus if you really think i play with you just so i can always 1v1, trollllololol, ect with you then thats what you can think. the simple fact is this: we had a winning situation and where it didnt matter, we lynched you out of paranoia and derp. it didnt change the outcome. if you want to disagree about the BG actions and who you should of targeted then we can. the simple thing is this: i think you used BG incorrectly trying to personify it as investigative and not protective. PV+evil were both practically confirmed by the flips yet you decided do IMO use it on the wagons there. so im just going to leave it at an agree to dissagree on what you used it for. as for the wagon sensor, if you jsut agreed with me on it and jsut firmed yourself as town it would of made the game probally over even faster but your stubborness cost you for that