You could be anyone II - Game Over

[RachMarie]

ack sorry all thought I had posted here had to hunt down the game in theme park (I generally use ego post)

I blame it on the vicodin I have been eating like candy for the dental work, I can't even work right now

Will read up and catch up on 25 friggen pages

[RachMarie]

Meh so far I do not have enough of Mollie to make a decision but she pushes me as both town and scum so yeah will need more to decide I usually town read her but last game we were in she turned out to be scum so a bit more skeptical now.

Jiffy NS and I are going insane atm, both of us having major dental work getting ready for the big move from California to Tennessee NEXT MONTH.

Auntie my favorite breakfast which has to be modified atm (I am having yogurt instead of the bacon) is:

Oatmeal with 2 oz unsweetened applesauce and a big dollop of cinnamon, spinach egg scramble with a bit of cheese, and a couple strips of BACON because BACON lol I was diagnosed as type 2 diabetic on July 1 this year. So I hope you have sugar free syrup for me. BTW I was trying to calculate the odds of you being scum 3 times in a row Granted each game is independent but that would totally be freaky.


The FFs please slow the heck down it makes it really hard to catch up acck though you are probs town only person I saw willing to spam it up this much as scum was in a game with Mollie, the game is escaping me atm brain is not working fully sigh. Mollie you remember that game and the dude who spammed like crazy and drove you nuts who was scum?

TSO is probs town the meltdown feels more towny to me than scum TSO who I have also played with. Dude seriously I do not get mislynched in EVERY game, though I am often low hanging fruit.

I have a bad habit of scum reading Pere I can find a linky in a recently ended game with him where Auntie was scum and I was the backup cop and instead of investigating HER I investigated Pere but at least my crumb saved the day and she got lynched over him but still... meh

more later this is really a mega wall

[RachMarie]

yeah Mollie that kind of surprised me too we meld pretty well even when you think I am scum and want to lynch me, it has never turned personal?

Maybe he is trying to stir something? Not sure have not seen enough posts from Jiffy to get a good lock on him yet.


As for Nero mostly when he is town he trolls a lot when he is scum he lurks a lot


Titus I am totally confuzzled atm but I put a big chunk of that to drugs and the other chunk is trying to sift through all the FF spamming to read the rest of you all.

[RachMarie]

Just got back from a family BBQ in San Jose (about a 2 hr or so drive each way). Tired and will deal with this tomorrow just skimmed through the mega number of pages since I posted last.

I was not saying something about you Titus more directing to you that I too was feeling confused about this game in general. Hope that clarifies.

Picked up my dad's ashes whilst we were there and got to see the other kitty he had rescued before he died. Was good to see my Aunt and young cousins before we move to TN.

May have to have a couple V/LAs BTW since we are fitting a day trip to SF and a 3 to 4 day trip to Southern California to connect up with family and friends before moving along with the dental stuffs.

Yes I do have meta from playing with many of the peeps in this game and when I have a bit more time to do ISO reads and check some things and more posts from others besides Fae and Fedo.

ehh not positive yet but its feeling less likely to be scum Nero. I need to compare though a bit with another game when he turned out to be scum after all. It is definitely not as strong a town feel as I often get on him, more posting will help there.

I am willing to at this point give a tentative town read on Jiffy and Mollie until we see some flips, usually takes that for me to peg them fully.

Mom feels pretty town to me.

[RachMarie]

Mod Put me on V/LA til Tuesday I will post when I can but we will be going to S CA for a few days.

[RachMarie]

Currently at the motel briefly in Palmdale, CA before visiting a friend of NS's Yes my VLA is real, Mollie.

Not sure if you know, but we are doing a LOT of stuff before we move from CA to TN later THIS month, this is the ONLY new game I have signed up for because of the limited time we have. Plus all the dental work too.

Feeling more towny vibes from Nero.

TSO wagon does not feel right, I think he is more likely town.


Do not like HI Sam, I Am.


VOTE: HI

VOTE: hostile Intent

[RachMarie]

Mollie--
I was gonna answer but looks like you figured out already why I voted for HI...

Dude is scum...

More later we just got back to Modesto from S CA and I am worn out and have a dentist appt tomorrow. Great time and NS and I had a nice lunch today with Equinox.

Mom I disagree with you on HI.

Flavor means squat in this game and the soft claim does not impress me. Jason T already said that he picked the names BEFORE the scum vs town roles were randomly assigned. So yeah you could be Sauron and still be town. And you could be Harry Potter and still be scum.

So yeah telling us you are some dude named Andy who I have never heard of, BTW, tells us nothing, but the WAY you did it, just makes me feel even more ready to make you eat rope, dude.

[RachMarie]

I think Jiffy is trying to get your attention Mollie

Sigh I am torn here, not liking the way the claim happened and feel like it COULD be a fake claim, but I am also not fond of lynching an un CCed PR claim, especially on D 1.

UNVOTE:

Going to ISO a few peeps and see what sticks out to me.

Going to the Vet tonight and tomorrow a trip to Sacramento to drop off a few things that my former step mom had left at my dad's place. Plus in our spare time (ha ha) we are filling up the PODS. This weekend I should have more time for the game though before Tuesday and the final teeth pulled and my new denture and lower partial put in.

[RachMarie]

td was not at all that active in Xeno, and he was scum, granted I was also scum but the other team. Was totally amazed that our last guy (bro) was able to hold out long enough for us to win that game.


For those who want to check that game out

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=28572

[RachMarie]

Josh I posted a TD scum game. Xeno. I could probably find more of both scum and town TD, we have been in a few games before. I am not totally sold he is scum though in this one, I need to read his ISO here and in the other games. I plan on doing that this weekend before the dental appointment on Tues.

Right now though I have to put together a few boxes for the move. (I put them together and NS packs them full of books.) We have 3 floor to ceiling bookcases FULL of books to pack and that is not even all of our books lol).

[RachMarie]

meh that claim seems totally off here

But we are down to 2 days

Definitely need a lynch today.

VOTE: FFAE00 FFED00

[RachMarie]

If they really are town they should not be self voting and then claiming SS when they were not at L-1 with Intent on them.

Seems fishy to me

[RachMarie]

Only one kill looks like it might not be multiball after all?

If not multiball how many mafia are we likely to be looking at in a game this size?

[RachMarie]

I have to admit only one kill kinda puts him in even a worse light than before TD.

Pine basically he soft claimed for many posts then finally said he was the FBI agent in a rather unconvincing manner, then he topped it off with his hemming and hawing over the SS hammer (though dude turned out to be fake claiming and was VT when he flipped after the lynch.)

BTW DUDE if you are still reading the game now that you have been lynched bad play fake claiming. Seriously that is why I thought you were prob scum. uggh.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Hostile Intent

[RachMarie]

Pine why would they have an FBI Agent if there is no Sk? Or do you think there is an SK but they did not do a NK last night? I would think if there is an SK they would have shot him last night instead, we have ONE VT night killed and no other NKs. Not yet completely ruling out multi because there could be a protective role that got lucky. But it does seem suspicious to me.

That is why I think his claim is bogus.

Though I do understand the whole un CCed PR claim thingy. Just seems to me that FBI in a game that looks like it is one team out there killing would be a great fake claim.

Meanwhile, I will spend sometime this weekend looking at others as well see if I can get a better handle now that we have a flip.

I will be V/LA for a few days or so starting on Oct 28th We (NS and I) are driving from CA to TN and we will be relying on wifi connections for a bit.

[RachMarie]

3? how do you come up with 3, TD?

You think there is possibly 2 scum teams and an SK? Granted most of the games I have been in with Jason T as mod lately have had that.

[RachMarie]

Previous experiences in large themes with Jason T as the mod basically.

[RachMarie]

I was asking TD that for a reason Nero.

I am not completely sold on him being town here.

[RachMarie]

Rach is busy because Rach and NS are moving from CA to TN Tomorrow.

We will have wifi acess, but I will be somewhat limited on time that I can use the wifi. We are driving there with our two cats in tow and staying in pet friendly motels along the way.

Hence why I am on V/LA

[RachMarie]

update we are in Cleveland TN on my netbook on motel wifi we cant move in to the house until the 16th most likely. Have a biz conference in Memphis from the 13th to 16th. trying to catch up here. So HI really was fbi?

Sorry Titus but does not look good for you why claim tracker and lie about results.

VOTE: titus

[RachMarie]

my kindle fire keeps messing up the mafia site which is why I am on my netbook which I am sharing with NS til we get hiss main computer fixed.


pedit what the heck is a framer?

[RachMarie]

ugghh I am so confused here.

Titus why do you think mafia shot an sk do you think they are BP?

I still think you are scum though

[RachMarie]

UNVOTE:


so someone does not derp hammer

[RachMarie]

oh good grief.

1. I am playing with a boatload of RL stuff going on including moving cross country so yeah lurking is a lame case on me.

2. I do think Titus is scum, however with RL issues I did not want to leave anyone at L-1 so early in the day phase before we TALKED cutting discussion benefits scum not town. I have seen too many games where someone hammered in a derpy fashion and it cost town big time, EVEN when it turned out the lynchee was scum.

I hope that makes things more clear.

[RachMarie]

uggh Titus that totally does not play. scum would have nked the claimed PR (tracker) that could do them damage or framed you not the FBI claim which seemed a likely sk. it makes no sense based on Occam's razor your convoluted story, plus I do not see how based on wiki def a framer would have that much power.


VOTE: Titus


feel good about the following reads

dex and other x dude as town

TSO town

kise formerly Jiffy is prob town small chance of maf but I believe the flipped fbi report clearing him of sk

would like to see more from Mollie and Nero

need to look at isos n such and vca but

mod will be VLA from 13th to 16th due to biz conference in Memphis

[RachMarie]

Would someone who is scum reading Mollie over House please explain their case to me? I do not see it. House on the other hand has clear interactions with Titus.

VOTE: House

[RachMarie]

So bomb is kinda like PGO? I have never seen that pr before.

Will look carefully at the VCA when I am on my computer.

[RachMarie]

took me a while to sort out Pere because I have a bad habit of scum reading him when he turned out to be town. I am putting him in the town pile.

J do not get the whole Mollie is scum thing that is why I was asking garmr. Not being lazy, still in a motel until the weekend. We FINALLY have a house and get the keys late tomorrow. I am not getting a scum read on her I think she is town, as for the SK talk, that is also a possibility, but scum I just am not getting that vibe from her.

still feel good about my vote on House, the whole just lynch me give up with only two votes i do understand since I have done it before, but seriously dude, get in there and come up with reads. Giving up, especially when you have TWO votes on you is so antitown.

[RachMarie]

hey all can we tone down the personal attacks please?

Seriously I really am trying to play catch up here and I don't need all the vitriol ATM.

[RachMarie]

TD I already had you as a town read of mine why are you claiming?

#therehavebeentoomanyclaimsinthisgame

Since you HAVE claimed town neighborizer, what happened on N2 when you neighborized Titus? Or does your PR not distinguish tween town and scum?

[RachMarie]

House

Do you have any reads? I can even understand if Titus was a strong town read of yours, people DO make mistakes on reads. But at this point I am not seeing what I need from YOU to move you from a scum read. I need that so I can move on to others to sort them out by PoE.

[RachMarie]

EBWOP any reads on LIVING players

[RachMarie]

Well I was trying to push you, House. Yes I voted first but then I have been trying to play catch up in a motel (we finally got the keys today but they are STILL working on some parts of the house uggh)

So sick of motels and take out food that is NOT good for my diabetes and not being able to get work done.

I am going to spend sometime this weekend really ISOing some folk. We seem to be all over the place on wagons here and no real directions or consensus here.

[RachMarie]

feeling pretty good about Ank he can go in my town pile He also brings up a good point for those who say Mollie is the SK lynch her with fire, At this stage in a large game, having the double deaths works against the scum. Why look so hard for the SK? He or she may be antitown, but so far has done a lot to help with finding scum. If we get all the maf lynched or they get NKed by the SK, that helps town at this point, later we can catch the SK.

House you are off base but that is ok you keep thinking I am scum whilst I think you are, sooner or later we will know who is right Though why would you as town soft defend someone you think is scum, I have no clue on?

Anyone else you think is scum, or maybe some town reads?

[RachMarie]

Garmr

And if you are wrong and she ends up flipping town? Who will you look at then?

[RachMarie]

Mollie

Where did I say I had a hard sk read on you?

I think you are letting garmr`s hard on death tunnel get to you

I believe I said I think you are town and that you are not scum based on connections with flipped players. That I could not 100% rule you out as Sk but probably not sk. I usually catch sk when I get scum vibes on someone not town vibes.

Hope that clarifies

[RachMarie]

How about an updated list there garmr based on the flips.

Only one of your main four potentials flipped scum along with two others that are not on your list at all. Most of your town list has flipped town but there are a number of players not there. Plus your short list at the end do you have any more on them

[RachMarie]

That is a good point Pere, but what about the fact that everyone wanted to get rid of the ff twins for their spamorama. I think it bugged the scums as much as it did the rest of us. Do you have anything else to back up a scum read on TD? Especially with the claim?

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Nero

Cop guilty

Before I vote, I want to hear from the cop if he investigated last night and whom.

[RachMarie]

Mollie

I thought it was House that claimed cop and said Nero was guility? You said Pere is? I am really confused here?

[RachMarie]

@Ank3598 {and anyone else fronting this opinion}- Explain to me NeroScum. I refuse to believe that 4/6 Wagoners were all ScumMates.

Official Vote Count

TiphaineDeath

(6):

T S O

, TheWayItEnds, Kthxbye, StrangerCoug,

FFAE00 FFED00

, Mom<Ank>

FFAE00 FFED00

(6):

Titus

, Majiffy<Kise>,

I Am Innocent

, Nero Cain,

vezokpiraka

,

Aunt Jemina

Garmr

(1):

I have no creativity

pirate mollie

(1): Josh_B

T S O

(1): TiphaineDeath

Hostile Intent

(1): pirate mollie

StrangerCoug

(1): PeregrineV

Yiley

(1): d3x

TheWayItEnds

(1): Garmr

Not Voting

(6): inte<Pine>,

Hostile Intent

,

Wake88

, RachMarie, Lucky2u, Yiley<Fish>

@P5- ^^ That is what you are not answering. You are

still

Voting Nero and not responding to me regarding this issue.

In 1165, 4 of the votes on FFFFF are scum.

Explain.

Since it's Tuesday with Thanksgiving coming up, I might be VLA over the holidays, so will claim this now.

I am the cop.

Night1: StrangerCoug is town
Night2: IamInnocent is scum
Night3: Nero is scum

So, on the 1165 vote count, there are 4 of the presumably 6 scummembers voting the counterwagon to TD. (could be Kise is scum too, but that would be too funny).
Since FFFFFF is not the Mafia God, this indicates to me that they did not want TD lynched. Very badly.
Making him highly likely to be scum, and should definitely be tomorrow's lynch.

tl:dr- Vote Nero

Oops I missed this and saw House's response instead

Ok Pere who did you investigate and what was the result?

[RachMarie]

I really am not so sure about Mollie being the SK here folks, but I have to say Mollie why are you so SURE there is not an SK? I would presume if there is a doc that he or she definitely protected Pere last night after he claimed cop and we got scum lynched. I have been doc many times and though sometimes it is pretty worthless because you pick the wrong people to protect, it can also be pretty bang solid if you protect the right person.

If there is a doc they should NOT come forward though and continue to protect the cop. And no I am NOT claiming Doc here, just going on my many many many games of being the doc.

[RachMarie]

Sorry I guess I missed that. It just seemed like you were saying it was not likely

BTW you are not giving off SK vibes to me. You are not as strong as you usually are when you are town, but I still feel you are likely to be town.

[RachMarie]

So who are you scum reading?

[RachMarie]

WTF Garmr

Outing the doc? That is totally not a town thing to do or even talk about

Seriously?

Plus your total tunnel on Mollie being SK stuffs

The only one at this point who should be hot to get rid of the SK is scum, once we get rid of all the maf team, we can look at SK hunting. Several peeps have pointed this out and yet you have totally focused on sk and tunneling Mollie, I even asked you what if she flips town, what will you do?

How about who do you think is mafia scum eh?

I am coming to the conclusion it is you

VOTE: Garmr

[RachMarie]

Sorry all I have been really sick and behind on work VLA til the 13th

[RachMarie]

Hey all sorry for dropping off the face of the earth, I have been very sick plus having MAJOR issues trying to get my insurance sorted out now that I live in TN instead of CA it is a really BIG MESS and may take 2 or 3 months before I get medical insurance. And NS and I are pretty darned broke after the moving costs and all.

On a deadline to get a work project done by Monday, partly so I can pay cash to see a clinic

I am hoping I am well enough to go see the Hobbit on Sunday for my birthday but that may have to be postponed too

I will be able to post more after Monday V/LA til 12/22

[RachMarie]

I stayed with this game because:

1. it is a large game which is MUCH harder to find replacements for.

2. I am invested in this game because I have been here from the beginning and love the mod and his games ♥

I made the mistake of signing up for more games thinking things had settled but turned out that things went south, so I went back down to ONE game this one.

So basically you are saying at this point when town is in a pretty darned good place with finding many of the mafia (not as sure as some that all are gone), it is time for a policy lynch on the hopes you might get the SK?

Right dude how about coming up with another angle eh? Clearly you do not know me very well, When I replace out I usually do NOT replace out of large games, feel free to check my record.

[RachMarie]

HUH Kthx

I am V/LA not replacing out of this game I thought I made that clear.

Will have to postpone going to see the Hobbit for my birthday (Dec 21) because we are so behind on getting the work project finished and most likely will not have it finished on Monday We will go see the Hobbit after we have the work done.

Not doing any marathon games either because work

[RachMarie]

yes TD claimed neighborizer and that has been confirmed by more than one player/

Of course neighborizer is not always town.

Does everyone think there are no more maf left? Granted with the doc dead and all. This has been a bit of a strange game though.

Going to look at some of the game here and start catching up Still working on our project have had some technical difficulties.

[RachMarie]

Another question I have is what is the difference between a tailor and a framer? Can we fully trust the reads that the FBI agent made for those who are not the SK?

[RachMarie]

Thanks ok so basically Titus shot herself in the foot completely ok I was not sure have not had much experience playing with either tailor or framer.

So then yeah that clears Kise for SK pretty well then

Moving along

[RachMarie]

Wait a minute when did you claim vengeful townie Kise I missed that?

[RachMarie]

Yes I will be here tomorrow (Tues Dec 30th)

Thanks for the quote I totally missed that one when I was reading up

[RachMarie]

Garmr
before I answer that since Mollie replaced out and Nacho replaced in, has that changed your opinion of that slot? You were pretty gung ho about Mollie being an SK.

[RachMarie]

Personally I think Nacho and formerly Mollie is a town slot I just do not see Mollie acting like that and replacing out the way she did if she were not town, it felt like town rage to me.

[RachMarie]

Which means both Kise and Mollie/ Nacho are not SK to me and they are my most solid reads.

Kise due to being cleared by the FBI

Mollie/Nacho as I stated before.

I am trying to determine if dude was WIFOM ing it up or if we really have gotten rid of all the mafia team or not. Remote possibility of Kise being maf but definitely not SK.

Mollie/Nacho is my strongest town read and I really do not see her play fitting either SK or Maf as I said felt too much like town rage.

[RachMarie]

i have had my doubts about Kthx for some time now especially with the case that Dex made, I did want to clarify the garmr issue though because he seemed to be going so hard on for one of my town reads, it really muddied things up and made it hard to figure things out for me

So yeah reads are from town to scum

Town Kise, Nacho, Way dude SC kinda nullish due to having less activity than I have so still trying to figure him out, Garmr,Kthx

INTENT TO HAMMER

[RachMarie]

crap we got a bit over 4 hours dont have time for kthx to respond before deadline


f it

VOTE: Kthx

[RachMarie]

I need to look at VCs.

BTW that day went so quick I did not even have a chance to speak thanks peeps.

Can we slow down a bit and let me catch up?

[RachMarie]

Ok guys in my experience, cops get guilty and not guilty. I have not played with FBIs much, but I would presume it would be similar wording. Are ya all thinking the cop could have gotten a guilty read on Way dude and that is why the cop was NKed? Cause that is kinda WIFOMY. I figure it was like Mafia and Masons which I was in a while back, the cop could only get a guilty on mafia, and the seer a guilty on werewolves. That was a really strange game, I was town but my neighbor was a werewolf.

I can get the link iffen you want it.

[RachMarie]

I thought it was a tailor not a framer? I am confused?

Ank what is your case? If it is based on lurking I have not lurked I have had a number of issues this game.

I would suppose the remaining SK would be more active since clearly there has been a NK every single night and Way dude was odd night which means he clearly was not able to do kills on even nights.

So I am looking at activity for someone in the remaining crew who has been very active and who fits with VCA and obviously is not a cop clear.

SC if you are a cop clear that does not clear you from SK. And from what I have gathered a tailor is not the same as a framer.

[RachMarie]

I modded an 9AP game, when you have an even and and odd they cannot switch over. Which means the even SK had to be active enough to make a NK every even night.

Hence why I think the remaining SK was active.

[RachMarie]

TheWayItEnds was Jerry Springer, Odd Night Serial Killer, lynched Day 8

Um it is an odd night? Or are you saying there is still a mafia player left?

I have a town read on Mollie/Nacho

SC is not mafia based on cop clear, but that does not mean he is not SK.

Ank replaced Mom hmmm going to take another look at Mom.

Garmr I am not sure about you there are things that make me think you are the other SK but some of the things make me think you could be town. I need to take another look at you.

[RachMarie]

Time is running out


In Order of Town to Sk

Nacho
Ank
Garmr
SC

VOTE: StrangerCoug

[RachMarie]

Nacho

Why do you feel so strongly about Ank? I had a fairly strong town read on his pred, Mom.

[RachMarie]

Her ISO reads as someone trying to push the game forward, trying to cut through the BS that the Fee and Fae hydra was doing, and trying to get discussions moving. She was confident with her voting, and it did not seem like she was just switching from one vote to another vote based on who was most likely to be lynched, but that she was pushing people to get their butts in gear with discussion.

Which feels rather towny to me.

[RachMarie]

I admit I was wrong about SC

I do agree that Nacho is town here I doubt he would have gone off to sleep and not taken advantage of you voting me off the bat, garmr

If you recall, you were in my scum pile and have been for a while, that is why I was questioning you so much about your interactions with Mollie.

Since I feel I am right about Nacho being town that leaves you

VOTE: garmr

[RachMarie]

Seriously Garmr? you are basing I am the other SK based on the fact that I did not believe your case on Mollie being an SK?

[RachMarie]

I kept saying that because I had a town read on Mollie and that read did not change after Mollie became Nacho, in fact it became even stronger because I can't see either mafia Mollie or sk Mollie replacing out like she did just because you were death tunneling her. I often ask peeps who tunnel hard on someone what if so and so flips town what will you do then. It is to try to push them into looking at the forest not just the one tree they are focused on. Particularly if I have a strong town read on someone.

[RachMarie]

I hope so Nacho we kinda need you here lol

[RachMarie]

It was a matter of fact statement based on people feeling that the SK were executing which were most of the NKs at that point.

Plus you were pushing SK Mollie based on the NKs, so it made sense to make statements about them that showed you were most likely off base. I was trying to get you to look beyond your death tunnel on Mollie because I was hoping you were misguided town.

[RachMarie]

I might also add that MOLLIE was stating the same thing about the SKs being execute and that the mafia team was not doing well. So yeah I used that in my arguments. Because I felt her slot was town, she did not seem like SK to me and her being maf did not make sense as I pointed out at the time.

[RachMarie]

I am really amazed we won, especially with me being so absent so much of the time with the move and all

There was all the packing of the PODS (and we ended up still leaving some things behind because the PODS got picked up)

Then there was the moving with 2 cats in a Kia from CA to TN. We stayed in pet friendly motels and I found out that my kindle fire had somehow messed up on the main mafia site and I was getting some weird mobile something instead of the usual sepia site. QT was working but that was about it. It was also messed up on my netbook computer as well. Finally asked NS about it showing him how it was messed up and he helped me find a place in the control panel on the forum where I was able to fix it back to sepia and have full controls again.

We were staying in motels and thought we would find a place in a week or two, plus we had a work conference in Memphis. We ended up looking almost a month before we found a place AFTER we went to the conference so we had to find a place to board the cats for the weekend.

We then had to wait 4 days while they got the place ready before we got the keys to it. Meanwhile my diet was shot because we had no way to cook food and all meals were from restaurants This was causing financial strain as well as bad for my diabetes. About a month of not eating properly most of the time. Still trying to get my diet back on track.

I want to say a big THANKS to my partner in crime Way. I doubt we would have had this win if it were not for him, I am quite happy to release the QT if it is all right with him. This was the first time I have ever played 3rd party.

[RachMarie]

Pere was AWESOME We were really sweating how well he decimated the mafia team, and of course the bomb helped too

We wanted to have the mafia around a bit longer for the double kills lol. Also when my partner was so swiftly lynched before I could even post I was really sweating and pretty sure I was gonna lose, so I tried my best to look town.

[RachMarie]

Thanks Moz and yeah this was the first time I have ever been 3rd party, been mafia some times but town more often.

[RachMarie]

Jason could we have the dead thread?

So Pine what was it about me that made you think I was Sk?

As for the friendly part, I tend to naturally be friendly, and I tend to focus on logic when figuring things out.

[RachMarie]

I really have been feeling so GUILTY about Nacho so much town reading me I always do when he town reads me and I am not town. It does not happen much since most of the time I am town and get mislynched.

Garmr I am sorry I pushed the whole Mollie thing but it was about all I had on you and I had to play to win. Your heavy level of emotional death tunneling to the point where Mollie replaced out was a weakness for town. When you get emotional when debating, you lose the debate. That was what I was taught in my speech classes and it is true. Town did not listen to your logic because of the amount of emotion you threw in.

I totally agonized over which to NK that night Since SC was more meh about me, and Garmr was so hot to lynch me, I felt that Nacho would be more likely to defend me harder and keep thinking I was town if Garmr was still alive, than SC. At that point my focus was on who Nacho would be less likely to believe. Again I was playing to win and with losing my much better playing partner, I was gambling.

I am sorry for not being more active, but as I said earlier it was a mess of a move. I did end up dropping out of newbie games and keep this one, and I would have done that no matter what my role because it was a large game and I had invested so much into it and it is far easier to find replacements for smaller games and newbie games than large games. I did not fake V/LA status and I was having issues with the mafia site as I stated earlier.

Way dude you were an awesome partner to have and I really enjoyed having you as my partner.

From reading the Mafia QT looks like Titus would have been screwed no matter what because she kept calling the role a framer instead of a tailor. Totally understand that one I have had that issue with watcher/tracker and I WAS the watcher so I watched the wrong target because of it

Auntie getting the bomb was sheer bad luck for the maf team for sure. Had she gone after a different target, the game might have turned out differently. Girl you got the most bizarre luck, you have been scum in every large game that Jason has modded that we both have played in. I kept thinking geeze no not again that would just be insane. Then you blew up and were maf again wow insane.

[RachMarie]

You are wrong, but I understand why you are upset.

[RachMarie]

BTW those newbie games are over

One I was town in and one I was maf in.

So yeah