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Post #2145 (isolation #200) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:15 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2143, Mathdino wrote:@bork: Let's do this exercise again. Assume I'm town. What do you make of the convo I had with acryon followed by his unvote? Lemme know if you want me to say what I think first; I ask because I'm digging myself in a hole of WIFOM.
This is the question I am most interested in, as that conversation is what pushed me to unvote.
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Post #2150 (isolation #201) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:06 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2148, Newbie wrote:How about this: bmws and acryon add their votes for me, I get lynched, come up town, and things get narrowed down. I'd rather mathdino end up in lylo over me since mostly everyone is reading him as town. If we don't do something, md is either going to have to self lynch or bmws is going to hammer him, and I'd prefer that to not happen.
Can we please stop with this stupid martyr stuff. If you are town, then tell us who is scum and why, not offer to die for the greater good. Let's please get scum today.
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Post #2153 (isolation #203) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:14 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2152, Newbie wrote:I already said who I think is scum, but it's obvious that person isn't getting lynched. Also, everyone keeps saying how I'm scummy but won't do crap about it, and we just keep going around in circles. Eventually our time will run out and md will end up lynched.
The fact that you don't have your vote on anyone isn't helping. Who do
you
think is scum anyway?
Didn't my last comment just tell you? And we have 5 days, so it seems a little early to give up.
And for the last time, I already said who I think is scum, but apparently I'm completely wrong and no one else agrees, so it doesn't matter anyway.
It actually does matter. If you have a case for who is scum and no one agrees with you, you have one of two viable options: make a better case, or accept that you may be wrong and look elsewhere.
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Post #2159 (isolation #206) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:26 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2158, Newbie wrote:Also, mathdino already made up his mind that you're not scum, so his vote most likely isn't moving anytime soon.
I did look elsewhere. My vote is on you.
Ok, but your looking elsewhere obviously brought you back to the same scenario, which means you go back through it again. Work on your case, or look elsewhere.
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Post #2172 (isolation #207) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:48 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2165, Newbie wrote:Now that I think about it, acryon probably is scum for how fast he jumped off of the md lynch. I guess he's playing it safe and agreeing with everyone to not look over incriminating for lylo?
I had my vote on MD for about a week. I don't know that "fast" is a word I would ever use to describe my getting off of it. And who am I agreeing with by getting off the MD wagon? Even MD advocated an MD lynch more than once.
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Post #2174 (isolation #208) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:54 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2173, Newbie wrote:acryon, if I'm lynched, who are you voting for in lylo? So basically, who's more scummy out of bmws and mathdino to you?
I wasn't interested in answering this question before, and I'm not interested in answering it now. You can probably draw some conclusions on your own, but if scum want the information, they are going to have to work for it.
In post 2173, Newbie wrote:acryon, if I'm lynched, who are you voting for in lylo? So basically, who's more scummy out of bmws and mathdino to you?
I wasn't interested in answering this question before, and I'm not interested in answering it now. You can probably draw some conclusions on your own, but if scum want the information, they are going to have to work for it.
What can I do to work for it
Seriously Newbie is giving me some serious flashbacks to about 2 hours ago. And you/newbie can probably read through my ISO to find information you're looking for, but I
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Post #2263 (isolation #216) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:55 am
Postby acryon »
Newbie’s whole flip-flop on Dino is obviously extremely weird. I suppose this could come from very confused town feeling backed into a corner, but I am more inclined to believe it comes from flailing scum. Why Newbie voted BMWS is also quite weird and I’m not sure why there is a resistance to bring a case on me. The seemingly empty scum-case on me feels similar to the seemingly empty town-case on Mathdino from Newbie. Town tend to have reasons for their reads, and the reluctance to give good ones doesn't feel right.
I feel like it
has
to be one of Mathdino/Newbie at this point, and I think these last two pages while I was gone hammered that in even more-so. I want to be skeptical and believe that BMWS could be scum so I don’t feel dumb later, but 2260 just sounds really town.
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Post #2272 (isolation #217) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:06 am
Postby acryon »
Whoops, I didn't realize it had been so long. I'm here, but afraid I don't have anything much extra to add at this point since not much has happened since my last post.
2263 addresses the vote a bit, but it ultimately comes down to the fact that Newbie has done more during the time since my vote to convince me that the vote there is right than Mathdino has done to convince me it should be on him. I won't let us NL, so if that means moving my vote, I will, but it will stay on Newbie until something changes.
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Post #2277 (isolation #220) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:05 am
Postby acryon »
For some reason I was thinking we had a little longer until deadline, but I actually am going to be gone in 25 minutes, and won't be back until after deadline. I think I need to leave my vote where it's at for now and I unfortunately won't actually be able to move my vote to avoid a NL like I thought I could.
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Post #2302 (isolation #223) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:43 am
Postby acryon »
Honestly I thought I had no chance after Wisdom got lynched. I knew I just had to do some crazy NKs to throw things off, because there was no way to win this game standard, especially with people like bork and Mathdino in the game.
In post 965, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:I hope this is an example to follow my wagons in the future. As policy, you should only start wagons on people off the wagon, the day immediately after lynching scum.
Acyron and Mathdino, one of which is confirmed scum, should be our first and foremost priorities. VOTE: Acyon
ahhhhhhhhhhh
Haha. Although he was actually right in that case, it is
far from
a good policy, and most of the games I have been in have had scum on every scum wagon.
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Post #2355 (isolation #235) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:37 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2351, Not_Mafia wrote:The kill on Cheetroy also should have pointed to him, no one else left was experienced enough to make that kill apart from maybe Mathdino
I will say that I had locked in to kill you before I saw the replacement.
I was actually pretty upset about the wegurts/Constantine situation, because both of them were prime candidates for lynching at some point. I thought it actually hurt my chances, but in the end it was probably a wash, although obviously having 1 less lynch to push makes things easier on the brain.
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Post #2357 (isolation #236) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:47 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2356, Mathdino wrote:wgeurts and Constantine getting modkilled should've won us the game since it gave us a confirmed town at 5p that we shouldn't have had otherwise.
Yeah. It was one of the many times I was sure this game was over for me.
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Post #2364 (isolation #237) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:09 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2363, borkjerfkin wrote:I don't mind him claiming scum when the game was 100% over (this is an open)
But others probably should've stayed out of thread
Yeah, I did so for Bork's sake, and the game was 100% over, so I was fine with telling him. I mean an alive player can theoretically claim whatever they want at any point in the game, right?
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Post #2375 (isolation #240) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:01 am
Postby acryon »
To be honest, I decided to go with sub-optimal choices for every kill, because I think that was the only way to throw people off enough for me to maybe make it.
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Post #2396 (isolation #241) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:03 am
Postby acryon »
In post 2394, Newbie wrote:Tbh, this was pretty fun with a pretty good group.
True story. This game was a lot of fun either way.
In post 2395, borkjerfkin wrote:I seriously wish people would not write cases. If you have to go back and try to find reasons to fit a conclusion that you've already decided on, which is nearly always the case when 'case-building', you are doing something wrong.
This is something I have definitely noticed I have been doing more as town than I wish I would recently. Definitely leads to a lot of confbias.
In post 2395, borkjerfkin wrote:I seriously wish people would not write cases. If you have to go back and try to find reasons to fit a conclusion that you've already decided on, which is nearly always the case when 'case-building', you are doing something wrong.
Hell I was even starting to do it unconsciously with MD and lo and behold, I was wrong
That's not how I write cases. I find reasons for town-XYZ and scum-XYZ and compare and contrast them. Which alignment makes more sense? Then go with that.