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The night is indeed dark for those without the eyes of faith.
Spurn not the Old Food Gods, and they will forget thee not, my son. Remember that the Great Smoked Halibut in the Sky sees your pain and will reward his loyal faithful sons.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
The quote is nothing. I am crumbing, and playing my role. The each flock has a shepherd. Each of us needs guidance, lest they fall by the wayside and be lost. Guidance comes from the Great Smoked Halibut, and I share with thee, brethren, what has been revealed to me.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
It is still frustrating, namely if people play the 'tee hee' game. Regardless.
The Great Smoked Halibut is one of the gods of the food world. Did they not teach this lore to you when you were a wee sardine, my son?
mollie, Nacho ignores me too but I just sit and wait for him to return. You have to trust in him too. Like you trust in the Great Smoked Salmon. Though I do not deny that there is sometimes sadness when I am overlooked for a prettier
fish
girl.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
ABR, I'm not surprised you don't know me (though I have been here for some time) and I'm not sure you and I have ever played a game together. The mollie/ABR discussion I found unfruitful besides seeing both of them playing somewhat off their games. mollie seems more defeatist and with less drive. I'm not sure what I expected from ABR, but this wasn't quite it, besides the hydra hate.
Iece is town.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
In post 68, Pine wrote:He's being all conciliatory and diplomatic and...
nice
ABR who gives a shit what people think of us, he's scum
This also threw me off - I got the impression that ABR was... not this.
In post 69, Iecerint wrote:Andy, do you think I'm scum because of my first, or one of my other posts?
I had no idea that ABR liked me back tbh. Mainly I remember having a hero-crush on him back when I was just starting. I remember reading Kinetic's Wheel of Time when I first found the site before even registering this account. :p
I think you're town, not scum.
In post 75, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
It's all in the writing. Hard to picture someone's age, character and temperament from their writing.
Makes sense.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
I had to clarify something with the mod before I was comfortable posting. The flavor had thrown me off a little. This is not a crumb for anything.
This one. I had not read the flavor or game-thread prior to reading my Role PM, so I was also thrown off. I imagine it was for similar reasons.
The rest of your posts solidified the read, since you were explaining both ABR/mollie's meta as it was, and who zwet was. And you asked why I thought you were town/scum. Holding me accountable for my reads, etc.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
In post 80, Iecerint wrote:I personally found my subsequent posts kinda scummy because I can be helpful as either alignment if it's just giving facts about someone. I understand for the first post, though.
Thanks.
Suffice to say that if one does not read the flavor they
should
be somewhat confused. Assuming they are Food, of course.
Even those who consult with the Olde Foode Gods are sometimes left adrift when pondering the thoughts of the celestial foods.
Nacho wrote:Andylove,
My ears are always open to your adventures and woes and I am always sitting by Skype with anticipation that one day you will return to me. I never intended to abandon my river-brother.
I have learned that to be jealous when in sure love is to err most greatly. To not trust those closest to you should prompt questioning of thine own self, and not the other.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
In post 5, Pine wrote:Forest creatures are civilized and cultivate the stoopid and barbaric humans as food. Humans have been infected with an odd Mad Food disease that makes them think they have rights, and are now poking one another with sharp sticks to find the real people among them, threatening the food supply
Pine your reading comprehension is superb.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Flames is tricky for me.
Nacho is still town.
Iece still town.
Undecided on ABR, though I do understand the meta argument.
mollie, what do you think of the meta argument regarding ABR and his conciliar nature?
farside wrote:
I sort of half read things. It's part ADD and part constant interruptions.
So if you see me not confused it's inder the I didn't really pay attention disorder.
I understand.
farside regarding FourTrouble wrote:
He's not engaged at all.
I think he should say more.[/quote
Understand and agree.
Konowa and Four are underwhelming presences.
farside has not demonstarted sufficient abrasiveness to merit any sort of renown for abrasiveness.
I take back what I said about Konowa regarding their presence. I spoke too soon.
Looking forward for Peregrine's arrival.
In post 179, All is Who wrote:Oh, I just looked at the playerlist. Hi mollie, TTH, Pine, ABR, Perv, nacho, flames, and farside!
The rest of you are probably nerds.
~Antihero
All is Who, please stop signing your posts with names other than your own. Thank you.
Unvote, Vote: FourStance
farside is leaning town.
As above, underwhelming presence. Two townreads in the last few pages.
Please provide scumreads.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Forgive me, I spoke without charity. I found it annoying in the darkness I allowed myself to fall into. I will strive to let it bother me less.
Mortify the heart.
But to answer your perhaps rhetorical questions:
1) It bothers me because I do not know who, in a hydra, is posting. And because I assume it is done to irritate people.
2) No, because I would know who made the post. Barring difficulties.
3) No.
Again, forgive me, if you may. I spoke without charity and felt without love.
I will give Peregrine time because, while at this moment I cannot remember where, I do remember him as being a decent scummer who should come around.
Iece entered the game as I entered the game, and was not afraid to say he was confused by the flavor (Food). It is not necessarily that explaining things is town-aligned (someone, forgive me that I cannot remember who, correctly stated that helpfulness is not alignment-discerning in and of itself) but I see his play as coming forward from that point as being solidly town.
Ah, welcome FourTrouble.
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FourTrouble wrote:I don't like his entrance, or 186, or 190,
or any of his posts
.
That may not be something I can help, sir.
"Underwhelming presence" is not weak or bad reasoning. Certain players have prescence, like meta. Fate, would not be Fate if he were not yelling and, as Nacho said in his GKTAS, leading the town with a messiah-like complex. Does that make sense? It is similar to meta, but different in that it means the actual prescence in a game. Your previous votes were a vote, a refusal to explain said vote, two town-read, and a question. Besides this post, you have provided us two town-reads, and a scum-read with no explanation. That does not offer much prescence. I am glad to see you return, even if it there was more stick than carrot, so to speak.
Regardless, my vote will stay because I find it odd (or perhaps circumstantial) that you return after I vote you and explain this vote (one may put forth an case that this is OMGUS) whereas you refused to provide reasoning for your first vote. I understand that you are V/LA, and await more reads/content to the game. I do find it odd that the first vote/read you explain is mine, only after I voted you. I await being able to discern more of your motivations, sir.
FT wrote: it's like unconsciously expressing that they won't always be town
It is stating that I still read them as town. Reads change, as do people. I have played games where alignments change. I have played games where people change. This is neither, but I will continue to state my reads, even if they do not change.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
FT wrote:This is a terrible reason to keep voting me.
Forgive me, I am not known for this voice - I am attempting to change, difficult as it is.
My vote stays.
AllisWho wrote:And Andy, you're invoking his beetlejuicing. Interesting.
Forgive me, I do not know what you mean. I am unfamiliar with Beetlejuice.
He is a player who has denied us reasoning for his first scum vote (curious) and is basing his lack of activity and explanations on V/LA, which is understandable but does not provide any insight into his alignment. Thus, I await his return and the chance to more accurately discern his motivations.
In my experience, Perv is a strong town player and has good reads, but his thread presence leaves something to be desired as both alignments.
I believe this to be true.
@mollie: I admit I am not pleased with Flames, though I can see town motivation behind his posts. Granted, it is not clear. Does that make sense?
In post 94, farside22 wrote:Game is weird. I don't like rvs all the time. Sometimes I'll vote, sometimes I dont. Most time I wait 5 pages and get reads on people.
Feel more like I'm pulling teeth reading people here.
You seem bothered by Fourtrouble staying on the periphery of the discussion, but you don't seem bothered by Flames. Why is that?
Interesting note. I had a connection drawn in my mind earlier regarding ABR, but I forget with whom it was drawn.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
he town, or does he just appear to be so?
Your word choice left it open to doubt. I want to understand you.
AllisWho wrote:Would it be accurate to say that you believe 4Tenors is exhibiting this behavior?
Yes. At least, up to that point.
In post 264, Nachomamma8 wrote:like abr not picking on all is who the actual hydra abomination seems like him trying to continue not to play to the crowd since his beginning push on you guys didn't really go so well. i think abr's strength as scum is playing to the crowd around him: he generally knows the right amount of aggressiveness people are gonna like, he knows the types of angles people are willing to push, etc. i see him playing to the crowd here whereas konowa just seems like he's playing emotionally
This actually makes a lot of sense.
Andrius, to mollie wrote:mollie, what do you think of the meta argument regarding ABR and his conciliar nature?
Still want your opinion.
FRATRES
southern gothic
all is who
farside
iece
nacho
flames
pine
ADVERSARII
peregrinev
ABR
fourtrouble
???
VictorDeAngelo
Will need to re-evaluate Konowa later.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
pine wrote:Nothing is actually gained for the town by making clear that Pine's ability is false
Nothing was gained for the town by the lies spewed forth from boredom, even in the name of 'reaction testing'.
Its one thing to say
Daykill: Iecerint
in a game that is clearly flavor-heavy and have no indication that it is coming. There was no presence, nothing to work with. Nothing but the clear boredom. If anything, the case could be made that you are scum simply falling to easily to the 'hi daycop here XXX and YYY are guilty', believing it, and then lynching fakeclaimer the next day. Granted, that is what you did with the 'make it clear that if ABR flips town you die'.
I digress. It is another thing entirely to say
Curse: Iecerint
in a game that is clearly flavor-heavy and with the curser having dropped off-color 'Olde Foode God' things like a crazy druid.
Does that make sense? A lie that everyone believes is still a lie.
Besides, the notion of a 2-shot Suicidal DayCop is utterly laughable.
tl;dr
Pine only wasted our time. Iece's reaction was suspect. There are not enough people here. I am not supposed to be here.
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"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Iece wrote:
1. It is only possible for scum to believe it if ABR is in fact scum.
Not true.
Fakeclaiming Townie claims Cop and fakes a Guilty on another townie. Scum obviously go along with it, as its a free lynch. Townie dies.
Next day, they lynch the Fakeclaiming Townie who lied. Townie dead.
Two lynches under their belts with little to no work involved besides a 'Follow the Cop' routine, which, if the claim is credible and believeable, all player would be right to do. Town would not go against a credible investigation, and scum would do likewise (barring gambits!) merely to appear town.
That's my argument - that scum would instantly jump on a fake guilty on town because it nets them townpoints, lets them blend in with the mass of Follow the Cop, and then that would set up them for a free lynch, as the town would (rightfully so) pursue the fakeclaiming townie.
Iece wrote:
2. There is no utility to setting up the lynch chain on Pine if ABR is in fact scum.
If scum would have died to the fakeclaim then of course there would be no follow-up. My argument is that scum would play 'Follow the Cop' because it would net them two town lynches off a townie's mistake and avoid most all responsibility for it themselves.
Iece wrote:1. His early townread on me seemed a little strong to me (I can follow it, but it seemed stronger than I expected),
I'm known for developing reads based on one post or one thing. Not saying that they are correct, only that it is how I play.
See: Storm of Swords Mafia
iece wrote:
2. His motive in asking for my read on PeregrineV indirectly is really unclear, especially in light of an apparent townread on me. Why ask his townread in particular? Why ask it of his townread indirectly?
I wanted to know what you thought without immediately leading into WHAT DO YOU THINK OF PEREGRINE FOR DOING THIS HUH?
You were the (one of?) the only player around.
You were a town-read.
In post 381, All is Who wrote:I'll see your townread on andy, and raise you an assertion that there's scum on his wagon.
I would be interested in elaborations on Andy being town, though. The best one I can come up with is that ABR didn't really hesitate to vote him.
Iece, since you have more experience with ABR than I, how does ABR play as scum?
Would this be something he does as scum - bussing a buddy D1 without reasoning?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you're saying is that you think ABR is scum, and his eagerness to vote me without a second thought proves we are not scum together?
In post 392, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The half-baked attempts at shifting attention away from Andrius and to me are disappointing.
It is only half-baked as I did not perform the baking.
Bread puns for the win.
Does peregrine reading the thread but have no reads not ring the ABR ScumDar?
In post 398, Iecerint wrote:Andy-PV does make some sense because Andy is probably more likely to pick up on his scumfriend making a perceived "slip" like saying he's read and doesn't have reads.
I don't get what you're implying here?
The tell isn't new - it defined my read on Mikujin in Storm of Swords.
In post 451, FourTrouble wrote:I don't see what's so scummy about ABR. I'd much rather lynch Andrius or one of the folks opposing his lynch.
its almost like you haven't read a thing since your last post
Lynch it with me?
In post 456, FourTrouble wrote:Also, Andrius isn't burnt out - he had a break, right? - so his level of investment isn't very telling. More telling is who he votes for, when, and why. That stuff suggests he's scum.
I didn't have a break - I left MS. For good.
And I'll most likely be leaving when I'm done here.
If/when Fourtrouble flips scum, remind me to re-evaluate farside.
Peregrine has listed 5 no comment reads, not including myself. The only scum-read I'm getting from him is a weak pine scumread. Hasn't done much to assuage my doubts.
Am willing to move to ABR, though I think FourTrouble is more likely scum.
FRATRES
southern gothic
all is who
nacho
pine
iece
farside
flames
ADVERSARII
fourtrouble
ABR
peregrinev
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
farside wrote:I don't see someone trying to figure players out.
I don't mean to be rude, but you're not reading hard enough, or understanding what I'm saying.
No, I'm not chain-posting like I used to.
No, I'm not active as I was.
Yes, I left the site for a year and during which changed far more than I thought possible.
I have been asking questions (even if ignored) and trying to figure a couple things out.
Does ABR seem like someone trying to figure players out?
Does FourTrouble seem like someone trying to figure players out?
Does Nacho seem like someone trying to figure players out?
Re: FourTrouble.
You wall quote entire posts of mine, even if they are not all related to FourTrouble. It looks like more than it actually is.
I realize I butchered a quote in /m186.
I voted FourTrouble, and then he showed up right afterwards and confirmed the read on him.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Nacho hasn't quite been involved as he usually is (holiday season aside, of course) and I do miss leading heroic charges of townblocs with him, but he's on the list because he's generally seen as town, even if he hasn't been around in the past week to 'figure players out'. So he's there for comparative reasons!
Does that make sense?
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Okay.
Farside is equating 'figuring players out' with being town.
I am, to her, not doing that and am thus not figuring players out.
I put FourTrouble on the list because he doesn't seem to post often nor be particularly interested in anyone but me, so he's also not seemingly 'figuring players out'. Which would also implicate him as scum, according to her logic.
Thus Nacho is there. He, who most of us (myself included!) see as town, has not been around as much as we may like, thus he is also not 'figuring players out'. Does that make him scum as well?
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Iece wrote:Me being the only one around makes some sense.
I did the same thing last night with friends - asking two questions when one would suffice. Instead of going straight for "would you like to go out for pie?" I went "What are your thoughts on pie?" and then "Do you want to go out for pie?"
Iece wrote:The line that you focused on from PV is not something I had noticed, but you noticed it, so there might have been a reason for that. Your information here that it's a read you like could also explain you having noticed it. My thinking was that you might have been worried that someone would notice your scumfriend's error and tried to link it to another player (i.e., hence the oddly specific decision -- explained by you above as me being the only one around around -- to ask me about it and the decision to reveal that it was PereV indirectly).
I'm glad we understand another. The tell comes from Storm of Swords Mafia, where Mikujin, some pages into the game, said he had no scum-reads. I found it highly suspect and single-handedly defined my read on him. You shouldn't get this far into a game without scumreads. (Granted, when I replaced in he was already dead by the time I arrived).
Farside, from reading FourTrouble's 25 posts and ignoring the first one since he didn't explain how serious of a vote his RVS-stage vote was, he has (apparently) the following reads:
ABR Town
Iece Town
Andy Scum
SG Town
far Town
5/12 is not sufficient this far in. He also has one scumread. Granted, he did ask you why you thought Who was town, implying of course he is either in disagreement with you or merely curious.
But don't tell me that that is 'figuring people out'. At most, he is figuring one person out. Me. Who voted him right before he voted me.
ABR has not gone unnoticed. Iece was merely a departure from his trend and ABR continues to be trying and perplexing.
peregrine wrote:I saw it as baiting you, asking about the behavior prior to pointing out the behavior.
The latter part of this makes good sense.
Asking about the behavior before pointing out the behavior.
gilgamesh wrote:Greetings, mongrels.
It seems the gods have decided that my duty is to grace you all with my presence in this laughable excuse for entertainment you call a "mafia game".
Very well. I shall allow you all to entertain me.
The join date of yesterday explains the odd behavior. Welcome, Gilgamesh. I don't understand your self-elevated posting style.
Gilgamesh wrote:Oh... I see. You claim to be a god of some kind. Only a mongrel would delude himself with such grandeur.
To mean that would be blasphemy.
I serve the one true higher power and am blessed with his graces.
I await your interpretation of the intetions of these players gathered here, myself least of these.
Though I think your attitude is unbecoming, and somewhat annoying.
Deadline is in ~3 days.
We should not tarry.
I will move to ABR if Nacho and Who will not move.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
In post 577, FourTrouble wrote:I was just thinking Victor was scum via process of elimination, so yea I'm down for that.
Vote: Victor
Please explain how you got from having five reads to narrowing Victor down by 'process of elimination'.
There is no progression of your reads.
Futhermore, I do not think that Victor should be the lynch today with ABR and FourTrouble around. ABR, do you not think I am scum? FourTrouble? I see the reasoning for lynching Victor, don't get me wrong, and it makes complete sense to do so if we have no other options or we are AT deadline. The fact that a number of people posted in the last two hours attests that people are here and people should be able to arrive at a lynch. We are not at deadline. We are approaching deadline.
FourTrouble abandoning their only scumread (me) and ABR abandoning one of his (!) are suspect.
If FourTrouble and ABR actually think that I am scum they, as town, should hold out and actually try and vote scum and return to Victor, who has been absent for reasons (I believe he said he was sick?), only at deadline.
Nacho, I need you. If I am doing wrong please correct me.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
fourtrouble wrote:but Gilgamesh's self-importance feels town
I take that as null as Who's signing-posts deal. Player-side gimmicks, unless they are actually done to detriment town, are null. I think that Gilgamesh is not dealing with the other players charitably, but it seems as though he's roleplaying something (?) so that explains that. No different than Mr/Miss Subliminal.
fourtrouble wrote: I also liked a couple posts from Flames (his "lynch me if I don't post soon" post felt town), so that slot leans town.
How does that compare to replacing out if someone isn't caught up soon? Out of curiosity.
Gilgamesh wrote:Know your place, mongrel. The next time you address me in such a tone, I will take your head.
Its not related to your alignment, but I find this posting... persona to be uncharitable and unnecessarily egoistical. I will say no more on the matter though.
Gilgamesh wrote:
I have yet to completely sort out Peregrine, Victor and 4Trouble.
Far be it from me to advise you without prompting, but your significant assistance in ascertaining Victor and 4Trouble's alignments would be of most assistance to the 'common folk'.
Nacho's posting on page 25 solidifies his town-read and makes me want to stick around. <333
Why, because they unvoted you?
That's faulty, at best.
nacho wrote: I feel you'd get a much better idea of if your perceptions would be correct if you pushed the stronger scumreads and see if they towned in response: pushing Victor tells me that you have the entire game figured out and I know you're not that bad/that blinded by arrogance to make that type of a push.
But he didn't push his 'stronger scumreads' (me) and went for Victor. Why?
Town motivation for that is absent. Deadline is not sufficient as we still have plenty of time. And he has made no indication that his read on me has changed.
Scum motivation is clear - he would be going for an easier wagon and potentially taking some heat off of himself.
4Troulbe wrote: I pushed my strongest scumread first (before I solidified townreads on the above). So the only alternative to Victor is Who or Titus.
Has your read on me changed or have you just given up on seeing me lynched today?
I don't see a progression.
FourTrouble wrote:Basically, I feel like players who take a break (at least in my case I've felt this way) tend to become more passionate on their first game back, regardless of alignment, so that's not really giving me town in his case
I am not fond of repeating myself.
I did not take a break, I left without intending to return.
PLEASE READ:
In post 599, Andrius wrote:This is me announcing my hiatus from MS since there is no longer a V/LA Thread.
I'm leaving, and I'm not sure when I'll be back.
Peace.
In post 607, Andrius wrote:I am here to say goodbye, and to finally leave the site. I'm going now, and I don't expect I shall return. In fact I mean not to.
I planned on writing a semi-decent wall about the people and games that really made this site a wonderful experience for me, but you know who you are.
This site was somewhat of a home to me. You all made it what it was. And I thank you for every great moment here.
-Andrius
I went on extended hiatus in October, as I had realized MS has to take a backseat while I sorted out things 'IRL'.
I returned in March only to say GOODBYE. Not 'I'm taking a break'.
Please let me know if that does not sufficiently explain that I was not on a break.
I am tired of seeing you say 'HE TOOK A BREAK HE SHOULD BE RECHARGED'. I left. I came back. I'm probably leaving again after this.
In post 659, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I won't be caught up by the days end after all. I no clue where the time has gone but I'll try to do another long post this evening. The good news is this my only game now, so I should have no trouble being on top of things before the end of night 1 at least.
Can someone link me to the FourTrouble case?
Is there anyone other than FourTrouble people want to lynch today?
Replace out if you cannot catch up.
You said three days ago (from ISO, 1/8) that you would replace out if you did not catch up.
If you cannot give the game its proper due, let someone else try to give it its proper due.
Life/death/sickness is more important than the game. We should all respect a player leaving for good reasons.
If you are staying in this game, play.
If not, leave.
Being a lurker for 2 weeks is not acceptable. Please consider.
There is no long-winded wall of a FourTrouble case, but my reasoning is quoted higher up in this post.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
In post 264, Nachomamma8 wrote:i think abr's strength as scum is playing to the crowd around him: he generally knows the right amount of aggressiveness people are gonna like, he knows the types of angles people are willing to push, etc. i see him playing to the crowd here whereas konowa just seems like he's playing emotionally
I found this in the re-read.
ABR brings up the Victor wagon four days before deadline (maybe three, I forget exactly). I've been trying to parse out his motivation for doing so.
Town Motivation: To Lynch or at least Pressure a Lurker? We were not at deadline yet, so it was not a deadline lynch suggestion.
Scum Motivation: Lynch a town-sided lurker at deadline, switching off major wagons? Potentially drawing attention from a buddy?
I just find it odd that people in this game are so willing to drop major scumreads to go pursue lynching a lurker with a good deal of time before deadline left to push their wagon of choice.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
In post 684, FourTrouble wrote:Voting me just because I "could" be scum is no better than a random vote. Better to have joined the Victor wagon.
You're not making logical sense.
You have presented no definite proof that he IS scum, so you're voting him because you think he MAY BE scum. You cannot know for certain. Unless of course you ARE scum and thus know who the scum are. Does that make sense?
At this point we should all be voting who we believe is most likely scum, because we (read: members of the un-informed majority (town)) cannot know who is scum.
All I am getting from you is 'please don't lynch me' with little town-motivation for your actions.
predit: Will address Victor soon.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
I did read, and see them. I wasn't saying you didn't have any, and I apologize for not being clear. In the interest of time it might be best not to WALLPOST and just get a list of reads out there. From what I've seen you dont Magna/Andy WALLQUOTEBLOC post, so that won't be a problem but I'd rather see a list of reads than links/quotes. I'm also attempting to change my posting pattern to be more clean. I did not mean to be rude, was just trying to get at the important thing (reads) in the limited time we have. Does that make sense?
Victor wrote:I'm curious Andrius, do you have a no-lie policy?
A lie that everyone believes is still a lie.
No? I try not to, that is. Granted, there have been some great plays from lies/gambits, but Pine's I fought bitterly because it was shallow and poorly prepared. Does that make sense? Its all about delivery.
Victor wrote:Is there a town benefit to your actions I'm missing?
Cutting out the bullcrap from a poorly-prepared gambit. I don't mean to be rude, Pine, but I imagine that a claim that outlandish would need to be better prepared to fly.
If I thought we could actually use it, I might have let it sit. Claim's too preposterous to believe, especially with ShadowDancer.
That'd be like someone claiming a Sane Cop in a hitogoroshi game. The man made a wall about how bad Cops are in games in MD back when I was here last.
Perhaps I've become a bit more of a stick in the mud since I left.
Predit:
FT wrote:Just because town are uninformed doesn't mean they should vote randomly; they can still analyze tone, behaviors, results, setup, etc. to vote with better than random chances.
Yes, but I don't see random votes here. I see people (like myself) voting who we think is most likely scum, even if that person is you (or me in your case).
Iece wrote:
There was actually a pretty long time-lag between it starting and Andy doing that FWIW. People seemed to totally avoid the thread. I felt like ABR and I were the only ones here. But it was around New Year's IIRC.
This is accurate. Pine, Iece, ABR, and I were posting. And all of our reactions are accounted for.
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In post 755, Titus wrote:I do not like an FT lynch until Pine cops him. If Pine gets a guilty, I will move. He's a day cop so I don't see why a result has not occurred.
He's not a DayCop. That claim was untruthful.
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Titus is scummy for not not reading the thread - if she actually read she would know that the daycop was fake. Also not providing reads. No Lynch is a horrible idea.
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In post 530, Titus wrote:What does it mean to be a suicidal day cop? Is that a desperado?
Iece linked Titus to Page 12.
Titus read at least the one post on Page 12 to get the claim.
On Page 13 Pine rescinds his claim.
Therefore, Titus did not read to Page 13.
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In post 856, Nachomamma8 wrote:i am sensitive iecerint
i began to cowrite an erotic novel with a woman and then i reached for an embrace but all i got was cold and lifeless air
This was beautiful. Anywho,
I will be following Nacho until he decides I am to be lynched.
And 'Food the Tracker' is not a role name. I'm sorry, but I don't even need to consult my Role PM to know that that's not how that works.
For the record, I don't think my question to mollie ever got answered, but whatever. I don't see a particular need to have claimed when they did. I mean, it makes sense as a role in this game, but I don't see the motivation.
I don't see the exchange with Nacho as particularly town. The claim was off, and Nacho has it right - if she had called on him (or me for that matter - Xenogears) she'd be all over us for noticing the difference in meta.
In post 903, Nachomamma8 wrote:So, there you go! Scum motivation!
What's the town motivation, exactly?
You thought he was a VT? I didn't expect that.
From his early troll-ish behavior and the gambit I thought it was likely he was either scum feigning it to maintain a persona or a town special who knew he could get away with it because he had a claim up his sleeve. Either would have been a beneficial outcome. We could either catch him as scum making the kill or possibly confirm what he did later in the game if he were a special. It seemed like a higher payoff than just following a lurker.
I also got town VT from that, for the record. >______>
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