Open 580: Tit For Tat - Game Over!

[Xayzeck]

Sorry those in the graveyard/whoever pushed TSO for being a dense motherfucker

please dont hate me <3

[acryon]

It doesn't really matter either way I don't think, but we need to wait for the other claims to ensure this is right.

[Xayzeck]

dense motherfucker being me if that didn't come out very clear

[Xayzeck]

Claim: Backup Role Cop

I missed my first night investigation because I procrastinated, but I checked TSO last night and got Backup JK back.

I thought he was town because I thought backup JK was town, I'm dumb! I didn't want to listen to the T S O case mostly because I didn't bother looking into it now that I could check him and get it over with, but more importantly if he was scum I didn't to get my butt rekt so yeah

VOTE: TSO

gg

quoting for the page top

[acryon]

Actually, you just hang anyway tomorrow if you were for some reason lying, so yeah.
VOTE: T S O

[Xayzeck]

Indeed

Nice avvy

[Xayzeck]

note to self my tso meta read is outdated

[acryon]

Nice avvy to you!

[acryon]

Wait, TSO asked for a massclaim on the last page. Is something getting missed here?

[davesaz]

PEdit: I started writing this about 10 posts ago.

I'm not 100% sure there aren't offbeat ways to play it as scum that degrade the following a little, but I think we can win with a massclaim as follows.

We massclaim. Either scum/the real PR counters one of the claims which gives us a 50/50, or doesn't counter in which case we get 3 conftown. Can't see any way scum would claim/counter as it's suicidal at best.

Lynch today gives us 1/5 chance we'll hit scum on the lynch and win outright even if the 5 non-PR are equal chance. Better odds if we're right on who is scummy or one of the people we've been thinking was scummy is one of the PRs. Somewhere between 20% and 50% chance of a scum lynch, even taking a pessimistic approach.

Then for night we have 3PR, 1 scum, 4 VT. We clear a minimum of 1 VT and 2 PR survive no matter what, entering day with 2PR, 1 conftown, 1 scum, 2VT at worst.
33% chance of lynching scum on random odds, worst case we lynch a VT.
Next night, 2PR, 1 scum, 1 conftown, 1VT. Scum kills a PR but the other PR clears the VT, game over.

PEdit2: Wait for the complete massclaim to lynch TSO.

I'm VT

.

[acryon]

Yeah, should have said this already.

I'm VT

.

[Xayzeck]

PEdit: I started writing this about 10 posts ago.

I'm not 100% sure there aren't offbeat ways to play it as scum that degrade the following a little, but I think we can win with a massclaim as follows.

We massclaim. Either scum/the real PR counters one of the claims which gives us a 50/50, or doesn't counter in which case we get 3 conftown. Can't see any way scum would claim/counter as it's suicidal at best.

Lynch today gives us 1/5 chance we'll hit scum on the lynch and win outright even if the 5 non-PR are equal chance. Better odds if we're right on who is scummy or one of the people we've been thinking was scummy is one of the PRs. Somewhere between 20% and 50% chance of a scum lynch, even taking a pessimistic approach.

Then for night we have 3PR, 1 scum, 4 VT. We clear a minimum of 1 VT and 2 PR survive no matter what, entering day with 2PR, 1 conftown, 1 scum, 2VT at worst.
33% chance of lynching scum on random odds, worst case we lynch a VT.
Next night, 2PR, 1 scum, 1 conftown, 1VT. Scum kills a PR but the other PR clears the VT, game over.

PEdit2: Wait for the complete massclaim to lynch TSO.

I'm VT

.

I've essentially got a cop guilty

If we lynch the guilty and I'm right, we win.

If we lynch the guilty and I'm wrong, you lynch me since I have no reason to lie as town, therefore I must be scum, and you still win.

Can you just vote?

[davesaz]

True, even if you're scum we'd still have the numbers.

VOTE: TSO

[Xayzeck]

Coolio

[T S O]

I asked for a massclaim because the game was over no matter what and my kill being whatever'd was the last straw.

I don't think I particularly called Luca town, my Pasch push was just because I didn't have time.

Fuck this set-up, 0/2.

[T S O]

vote: tso

[T S O]

Sorry to whoever thought I was playing against my win condition, but the stress this game would entail just wasn't worth surviving one more day and then dying.

[T S O]

In relation to Aquanim or whoever complaining about meta - being able to fake your towngame, even if your towngame can look scummy, is good scumplay. My play here was p similar to my play as town so I don't blame the triad for getting it wrong.

[T S O]

I tried to shoot Aquanim last night - I'll link the scum QT but the third last post is me OBSESSING ABOUT XAYZECK BEING A PR JESUS so that's annoying.

[T S O]

Post #25: I kinda want to shoot Xayzeck
Post #26: THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED A SCUMPARTNER'S IMPUT BUT TOWN MURDERED ALL MINE
Post #27: BBT locks thread.

I'm out, wp town, scum not so much

[T S O]

I could maybe have derped through getting dave or acryon mislynched today but I needed a PR dead last night to make winning possible.

[T S O]

Actually, Xayzeck missing the first investigation is pretty sickening for me.

[Xayzeck]

Haha did I drop a lot of pr tells? I'm interested in bettering my pr play

probably by first not forgetting to send in a night action hm

[acryon]

I could maybe have derped through getting dave or acryon mislynched today but I needed a PR dead last night to make winning possible.

Yeah for sure. I mean once we vigged the 2nd, it was going to be close to impossible to win as scum there.

[Xayzeck]

Actually, Xayzeck missing the first investigation is pretty sickening for me.

Yeah it was a tossup between you and Bulba mostly, and I put off that decision too long and I didn't even know deadline passed

I fucked up bigtime and just wanted it to hit night again so I could get it right this time