Micro 445 - Diamond Shreddies II (Game Over)

[SilverWolf]

Hi everyone

VOTE: RedCoyote

Grrrrrr...............

[SilverWolf]

Well that was shitty.
:l

It's LYLO now, right?

Nope.

VOTE: Varsoon

[SilverWolf]

I really don't know what to think of this game right now. The quicklynch on D1 gives us no info. to work with and I'm not sure why Varsoon gets immunity just because he led it and is playing the I'll stay off the wagon card for lylo. Meh.

I like Boonskiies. I feel like he's most likely not the town player in the interaction with Morgan. Morgan's responses are particularly weak. I'm neutral on Flubber and Gothic.

I can move to Morgan, no problem. That doesn't mean I want to let Varsoon off the hook right now either. My guess is they are both town.

So yeah, Gothic-what do you think of Morgan?

[SilverWolf]

Also, I'm sharing this because it's cute.

[SilverWolf]

Is there any reason to fear getting lynched on D1 if you're a Goon?

So, does this mean you were o.k. with the RC lynch going through regardless if he was town or a goon?

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Cus I feel bad for rolling the dice on a no-info D1 lynch. :/
I thought I'd hit scum and then I could showboat about it.

So, your whole reason for voting for RC and pushing the lynch through was so you could brag about it if you were right? And now that you know you are wrong, why do you think you should be excluded from being voted for?

[SilverWolf]

I just thought it was funny how we lynched on page 1. Also, sadly I'm mafia reading Varsoon because of it. Haha. He knew I'd hammer it as mafia also. Which is why I'm feeling Morgan is town. Wolf came off as goonie to me, and I don't believe it was an all mafia wagon.

OK, so if you read Varsoon as mafia for the quicklynch, why did you vote him right away D2?

[SilverWolf]

What's with all the townslipping people?

[SilverWolf]

I like Boonskiies. I feel like he's most likely not the town player in the interaction with Morgan. Morgan's responses are particularly weak. I'm neutral on Flubber and Gothic.

I disagree. Boon's interaction with Varsoon at the beginning of the day felt very stilted and not organic at all. What exactly bothered you about Morgan? To me, their response can cut both ways and makes enough sense as a goon not really knowing what the fuck's going on.

Morgan seemed unusually defensive and antagonistic where Boonskiies was more easy going about the whole thing. I tend to think more relaxed players are going to be mafia in this scenario.

[SilverWolf]

Sorry, I've been super busy.

Now, where were we?

[SilverWolf]

I was hoping Morgan would come in here and post something first but if he doesn't, I'll help you vote him out.

[SilverWolf]

Spoiler:

I disagree. Boon's interaction with Varsoon at the beginning of the day felt very stilted and not organic at all. What exactly bothered you about Morgan? To me, their response can cut both ways and makes enough sense as a goon not really knowing what the fuck's going on.

Morgan seemed unusually defensive and antagonistic where Boonskiies was more easy going about the whole thing. I tend to think more relaxed players are going to be mafia in this scenario.

I think what you're describing to me are personality traits. Boonskiies drawing an informed minority

(gotta' love this reversal)

card isn't going to make him any less troll-ish, I've already witnessed this myself.

SilverWolf, do you believe Varsoon's story accounting for his actions Day 1?

Nice post.

I'll get right on that.

[SilverWolf]

6 alive, if we lynch and it's mafia-that person will likely die overnight. Then we come back to 5P lylo. If we lynch town, then we are not in lylo tomorrow. If we NL it's the same as the first scenario because a mafia player will die overnight.

So yes, technically this is a mylo situation.

[SilverWolf]

I don't think that post is passive aggressive enough

Spoiler:

Better?

Much better.

[SilverWolf]

6 alive, if we lynch and it's mafia-that person will likely die overnight. Then we come back to 5P lylo. If we lynch town, then we are not in lylo tomorrow. If we NL it's the same as the first scenario because a mafia player will die overnight.

So yes, technically this is a mylo situation.

Nope, sorry not mylo. Nevermind.

[SilverWolf]

Morgan-If you could vote for someone today, who would it be?

[SilverWolf]

I go back and forth on that. I don't really see a good motivation for quicklynching RC. I'm inclined to think that town would be on the wagon since they would know it's a mafia lynch. Not sure if they both would be or not. Tough to say.

[SilverWolf]

I'm leaning Varsoon over Boonskiies because he was pushing the hardest for the RC lynch. He also is wanting us to assume he should be immune to being voted for today which I don't really like.

It might be kind of bold for a town gambit but if he's town, it's a winning strategy and I can see it.

[SilverWolf]

Using this reverse terminology is annoying. LOL

[SilverWolf]

Also, if I'm town, then you already lost.

Precisely why I'm not letting you get away with your gambit.

[SilverWolf]

I'm extremely paranoid that you are pulling off a gambit to set yourself up for a win if you are town under the WIFOM of, town would never be this bold.

Explain to me why I should trust you again? You quicklynched RC in a way that gave us no information and killed off a mafia player. How exactly does that benefit mafia and not town?

You need to explain it better than you have so far.

[SilverWolf]

So, if you are town, I'm supposed to let it go that I've lost the game already and just give up? That makes no sense whatsoever. I am not happy about the RC quicklynch. He is a good player that could of been a benefit. I am glad to see you admitted it was a mistake but I don't know how sincere it is really.

Who is the best lynch today in your opinion if not you? We are nearing deadline and should come to a consensus soon.

[SilverWolf]

Well, I think I'm going to have to let it go for today and IMO, we should lynch off the RC wagon because I can't imagine town didn't take advantage of it knowing it's a mafia wagon. Of those on it, if I let you go for today, it's either going to be Boon or Morgan.

Is Boon mafia to you for the hammer or some other reason?

[SilverWolf]

Yeah, I've never played with Boon before but I can believe that about the hammer. It doesn't clear him but it's o.k. for today.

OK, Morgan it is although I am having a tough time getting any real reads, the wagon is the best info. I've got to go on right now.

VOTE: Morgan

L-1

[SilverWolf]

Fair enough as long as you vote before we hit an actual NL situation.

What's scummy about Gothic? I know that's bad terminology but screw that, LOL.

[SilverWolf]

Okay gimme the deets

Morgan-If you could vote for someone today, who would it be?

I'm trying to decide if RedCoyote was quicklynched by the mafia, though I'm not sure of the odds of that happening. I don't really want to vote for anyone on the wagon.

VOTE: Southern Gothic

Morgan, do you think town is more likely to be off the wagon than on and if so, why Gothic over Flubber?

[SilverWolf]

@Gothic-Is Varsoon still your number one choice right now or do you have any thoughts on anyone else?

[SilverWolf]

There, that ought to get the game moving again, LOL.

[SilverWolf]

Huh. I've been sitting at L-1 for a while now.

Both Masons probably aren't voteparking me, right? Right?

What do you think? Do you think they are both on you right now? Off? Both?

[SilverWolf]

Interesting. I can almost understand that since Flubber's trolling but is there something else he's done to deserve the vote?

[SilverWolf]

Southern Gothic-Do you have someone else in mind besides Varsoon?

[SilverWolf]

It's actually lylo Boon.

[SilverWolf]

I wonder if you aren't right about Flubber since he would of been quickhammered by now if he wasn't town.

[SilverWolf]

Boon-Do you have an opinion on Flubber?

[SilverWolf]

I think it is unlikely to be Varsoon because my last conversation with him seemed genuine. I think the fact that flubber hasn't been quickhammered means he's likely town and those most resistant to his lynch are Boon and Gothic and one of those is probably the other townie.

[SilverWolf]

Nope, Flubber was on one of them and Boon was on both. Why didn't you vote for either Morgan or RC? I can sort of get RC since that happened so fast.

[SilverWolf]

Anyway, I don't have a better read than Flubber right now. His play isn't exactly helpful to the game as it is and like I said, he would of been hammered already if he wasn't town.

VOTE: Fubber

L-1

[SilverWolf]

Anyway, I don't have a better read than Flubber right now. His play isn't exactly helpful to the game as it is and like I said, he would of been hammered already if he wasn't town.

VOTE: Fubber

L-1

Since I spelled his name wrong, let me re-do this vote.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Just to be sure.

[SilverWolf]

That was getting to be like an Abbott and Costello routine.

Yep...............

[SilverWolf]

Hey Varsoon, don't be too hard on yourself. I enjoyed playing with you.

Thanks for modding The Bulge!! It was a good concept and a neat idea.

Feel free to release the Mason PT.

Hopefully see you guys around in another game.

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That was getting to be like an Abbott and Costello routine.

I honestly wasn't trying to be a troll. I forgot that you were waiting for me to vote first.

[SilverWolf]

Oh, and Red-sorry for what happened to you. My vote on you was an RVS.

[SilverWolf]

I will say in future games, that the only move for town to make is to shoot the confirmed mafia. Because mafia who are lynched are a NL, that pretty much confirms them. So town has to shoot them to win. The best move for mafia to take is to try to keep the stronger players from being lynched. The only downfall being if the stronger players are town which is hard to determine because as we noticed, getting good reads can be difficult. Especially, and no offense Varsoon, you quicklynch someone right away out of the gate.

[SilverWolf]

Yep, mollie said that we should claim in the PT and TTH and I were like no, we are actually "scum" this game, LOL.

But yeah, thanks mollie and TTH for being good partners!!