Mini 1636: Mafialand Mayhem! - [Game Over]

[Wake1]

Good evening, everyone. I'm on Limited Access during Mondays, Fridays, and alternating Wednesdays and Saturdays. This evening I'll be resting, and will be quite interested in talking with and getting to know everyone here tomorrow.

[Wake1]

Lapsa, my biggest strength at Mafia—in my own opinion—is twofold. Will and potential, and I daresay the ability to adapt to anything. At times I can be very forceful, and I quite like the mental swordplay that comes about now and again. Also, I tend to watch out for any players that use hyperbole, or take words out of context. Those to me scream of Scumminess, and I'm apt to tear at the throat whenever someone attempts to do so with me in these games. I've caught a few this way. Thorough, analytical reads are another strong weapon in my arsenal. Intense, unceasing curiosity and scrutiny round it out, but this doesn't mean other things are being improved upon as well. If I'm Scum you have to either NK or investigate me; very rarely as Scum do I get lynched; it's been well over a year.

My friend, what do you think are some good things to strive towards within these games of Mafia? Also, how long have you been playing Mafia? I am simply curious.

Aneninen, being unpredictable is the 17th Law of Power.

Guys, I'd like to hear more from you. Please speak up and get these discussions rolling. Hearing more from you would be splendid, and, if you would, please toss out more reads and accusations. Lob some questions my way too, please. I don't bite, and will not rip your head off unless I sense you're being deceitful. From a cost-benefit analysis, you have nothing to lose if you're Town, because as Town you should have absolutely no reason to lie to me about anything in this game. Some have told me I have a very sharp sense of perception, and can usually discern traits and patterns in the behaviors of others. You have literally nothing to fear if Town, and everything to fear if Scum, so, by all means, please do engage with me.

[Wake1]

Just give me a topic, because...
...Apart from my usual fluffing, I don't have any idea to talk about... but okay. Let's have a try! Why did you choose 88, as for your username? ^_^

In two hours—should nothing change—I'd quite like to discuss Lapsa's absence regarding 28.

"88" is for 1988, the year of my birth.

[Wake1]

Staying positive is a good thing, and I'll agree with you on this. In my opinion, working together as a team is a good thing as well. Would you be willing to give a rough estimate of how many years you've been playing? I've played between six and seven years.

Do you, perhaps, have any slight reads on anyone as of yet? Maybe you have a bit of insider knowledge on someone's meta here?

Lapsa, I do recall playing with Aneninen at least once. However, my memory on the details is foggy. As time wears on the memory fades ever so slightly.

[Wake1]

I do know Aeronaut and Luca Blight are formidable players, and am patiently waiting for them to wade into this game. You guys don't need to be shy.

As for me, I'm simply harmless.

[Wake1]

(..) Would you be willing to give a rough estimate of how many years you've been playing? (..)

Do you, perhaps, have any slight reads on anyone as of yet? Maybe you have a bit of insider knowledge on someone's meta here?

(..) However, my memory on the details is foggy. As time wears on the memory fades ever so slightly.

you can call me Lapsa88

vote on Aneninen because of fluff

vote on Aeronaut because of doubling on you

zero insider knowledge

thing in common - can't remember losing my memory

Fluff, in my opinion, isn't indicative of alignment.

Aeronaut, under the law of

Lynch all Wakes

, is naturally compelled to stay the course.

Do you feel posting fluff is worthy of a vote? I wonder what everyone else thinks of this. Please do join in.

[Wake1]

I've played with Wake before, but we're not allowed to talk about that.

Unless the game(s) in question are ongoing, why not?

[Wake1]

Post-edit.
"Aneninen is fluffing" = "Aneninen is present". You can put that on Wiki for an example of null-tell. Meta me, find it out an say, eeew! That's the proper sequence of events. And don't forget the pigeons! ^_^

post-post edit. It's ongoing.

Ah. I see. Then we will discuss it no further until it resolves.

Do you feel posting fluff is worthy of a vote?

depends on context

May you please elaborate on this?

[Wake1]

May you please elaborate on this?

no

Why not?

[Wake1]

Aeronaut

,

Luca

,

Katie

,

Aneninen

&

MonkeyMan

: What do you guys think and feel regarding 46?

I'd like to lean on you guys and have your input, including anyone else here who wants to work together as a team.

[Wake1]

Wake, you're clearly here. Did you forget to confirm your role PM to Riddleton?

With ten of thirteen already confirmed, it no longer became necessary.

[Wake1]

Aeronaut

,

Luca

,

Katie

,

Aneninen

&

MonkeyMan

: What do you guys think and feel regarding 46?

I'd like to lean on you guys and have your input, including anyone else here who wants to work together as a team.

how do you define fluff?

Personally, I define fluff as posts that don't really have much if anything to do with the game at hand. Like discussing jam recipes within an active Mafia game.

That said, I don't think all fluffiness should be outlawed. Some fluff is alright, so long as it stays within reason.

[Wake1]

@Wake88 and how do you define reason?

Please answer 46 first.

[Wake1]

/confirm.

[Wake1]

...I would add that him refusing to answer my question while wanting me to then answer his doesn't bode well. Not sure if he's Scum or inexperienced.

[Wake1]

That said, I don't think all fluffiness should be outlawed. Some fluff is alright, so long as it stays within reason.

what is an acceptable fluff to content ratio

on

Day 1

in the first 5 pages ?

which is more damning (in your opinion) in those first 5 pages, posting fluff or confirming but not posting in the game (but posting elsewhere on site)?

The first five or so pages I feel it's ok to post some fluff, but as the game progresses I think it should be kept to a minimum (not saying it shouldn't happen, though).

Hm. If you confirm, but not post in the game you confirmed, but have been posting elsewhere on site... I feel that's a bit more suspicious than fluffing in the first few pages.

[Wake1]

...on a side note, to be safe, I think we should assume we're dealing with a 10:3 Setup.

[Wake1]

Why are you voting Luca, Lapsa?

[Wake1]

Luca, may I please have your input on Lapsa's current behavior?

[Wake1]

other way around, buddy.

Hrm...

The plot thickens.

[Wake1]

I'm scumreading Wake for focusing on silly stuff like how much fluff should be allowed in a game

This is my third game, so no idea what my strengths are.

wait what? so was this a lie? can you answer his question now?

...

I was never the one focusing on "silly stuff" like how much fluff should be allowed in a game. If you recall, I was answering questions towards me about that. Maybe Luca is right about you misrepresenting things in this game. I gave fair warning about misrepresentation.

Perhaps I should be Scumreading you for lying in this thread and misrepresenting my posts.

[Wake1]

I don't get the feeling that being emotional or defensive is indicative of alignment. Maybe when it comes to meta, but that's typically unreliable. Misrepresentation and hyperbole, I think, are scumtells.

What credible meta do we have on sthar8, if any?

[Wake1]

was never the one focusing on "silly stuff" like how much fluff should be allowed in a game. If you recall, I was answering questions towards me about that. Maybe Luca is right about you misrepresenting things in this game. I gave fair warning about misrepresentation.

Right

but

you did spend a considerable amount of time talking about it, when IMO you should have brushed it off. It's a really weak suspicion, but it's there.

Are you acknowledging that you misrepresented me?

Now is the time to be honest.

[Wake1]

So because I discussed the matter of fluff to one or two other players who directed question towards me about it, you actually think that gives you justification, because it's too long according to your standard? And what is your standard, and how did my discussion with them "bog down the thread" as you so put it? And how exactly do you quantify 'too much time talking" when we discussed the matter and were done within, what, the first five pages? Oh now I am interested.

[Wake1]

Wake, I thought it might be indicative as the game progressed. Chill.

Oh, I am chilled good Sir, but I am now thoroughly perplexed with your faulty facade. First you create this dubious alt and slip on it, and then you try to lob a flimsy Scumread on me because you think I talked too much about the questions directed towards me in the first five pages. I would like to have more of an explanation from you on this, and you can be sure I'll be directing more questions your way in the future.

[Wake1]

Wake, I thought it might be indicative as the game progressed. Chill.

Out of curiosity, what exactly did you think might be indicative as the game progressed?

[Wake1]

Like, its exactly the same as noting a player defending another player as possible chainsawing in case one of them flips.

I noted your behavior for future reference, and it put you on my radar.

Who and what is this post regarding?

As for the bolded, are you implying that I was chainsawing?

On the unbolded, you say you noted my behavior for future reference, and you say it put me on your radar. What exactly is it?

[Wake1]

If you stopped taking stances in favor of theory discussions. It's a great way for scum to hide in thread. It's also indicative if you see a pattern of similar posting.

Woah, holdup there.

What exactly do you know about my meta? What do you think it means when I do or don't take stances? Come on, you're on center stage with something to say, so you may as well say it all as you can. Since when do I favor theory discussion, and since when does Scum utilize it to hide within the thread?

[Wake1]

like, spending all your time on 'how much fluff is good fluff' rather than wagoning or pushing a case doesn't mean anything on page 4 or whatever, but if you continued to do so all game i'd totally lynch you for it

Wait a minute. Nowhere on Earth or in this thread did I ever spend my time on discussing 'how much fluff is good fluff.' Please read the thread. I was asked one or two questions about fluff and I responded in 1-2 posts. If you think that constitutes 'spending all my time,' you're either misrepping me again or you ought to truly re-evaluate what it is you're saying.

Oh shit I need to duck and run

back later, got stuffs to do.

[Wake1]

*ever spend all my time.

[Wake1]

Theatrics aside, let's review.

Not sure what to think of

Lapsa

's behavior. Never played with this chap before, so from my perspective his somewhat dopey behavior isn't really indicative of alignment. Although I would say being difficult to read isn't pro-Town at all. Though I'm not at the point of committing my vote just yet, I do agree a bit with Luca's 64 on Lapsa being ironic regarding fluff. ...he cited his reason for voting Anen in 8 was because of fluff according to his 37. Lapsa's voting him for fluff, yet Lapsa continues to post fluff. That is hypocritical.

Why the hypocrisy? I'm asking you to clear this up for us once and for all Lapsa.

In 65,

curiouskarmadog

asked me which was more damning: posting fluff in the first five pages or not posting in the game but posting elsewhere. While it is a fascinating question to weigh, why exactly is he asking me it? What is the underlying intent of it all? It does, to me, feel as if he is trying to redirect my attention. Do you want me to turn my head and look at the player who isn't really posting here but elsewhere? Why?

Are you trying to help a bro out or are you wanting to shift my attention elsewhere?

CKD, I'd appreciate it if you made an effort to illuminate this maneuver of yours, please.

...back to

Lapsa

. You say in 69 that fluff wasn't your reason for voting Aneninen. Yet in 37 you did indeed vote on Anen because of fluff, and you linked to one of his posts as well. If you are trying to fool us, I can assure you it's not working. If people are misunderstanding your posts then that is your fault for not being transparent and understandable. And your counter-vote against Luca in 70 leaves me wondering what's up with that. Also, regarding your 73, from a Town standpoint, it is always best to assume the worst when it comes to what and how many enemies we will have... within reason. 10:3 is the worst reasonable possibility. No crosskills; three Scum. I'd rather assume we're looking at three enemies and feel relieved if there are only two, than assume there are two and then lose if it's revealed there's one more. Anyways, Luca is correct in 75.

As for

sthar8/KatieB

, do you only impersonate female alts, or do you take it further?

J/k

Your 78 leaves me wroth. It's the part where you say you'd wagon either me, Luca, or Anen. So, why? And does anyone else find it odd how he says Lapsa is probably Town in spite of his postings that really haven't been all that Townish to begin with? Guess I don't understand where KatieB is finding this confidence that Lapsa is probably Town, when it's so early into this game.

Up to 78

. Going to a party. HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!

[Wake1]

I am on V/LA today and tomorrow. May seriously post if not too drained from work. Please note my sig for V/LA pattern. Thanks.

[Wake1]

@wake

which weds and sats
itd be great (no irony) if youd clear that up

This Saturday. Next week Mon/Wed/Fri. Week after that Mon/Fri/Sat. That pattern repeats itself indefinitely.

[Wake1]

I'll be getting back to Sthar and co later. Burnt out atm.

[Wake1]

Hey guys, haven't forgotten. Just really busty at the moment. Got work tomorrow and I should be free on Tuesday. Spent most of today recovering.

[Wake1]

Wake's feeling busty

Hrm?

Dealing with work issues atm. Multiple coworkers have been asking me to cover their shifts. Will get into this game as able. We've got time.

[Wake1]

Hey guys, haven't forgotten. Just really busty at the moment. Got work tomorrow and I should be free on Tuesday. Spent most of today recovering.

God damn it.

I meant "busy."

[Wake1]

[Wake1]

Can't stop laughing.

Just googled what "busty" meant.

LOL.

[Wake1]

I've got a lot to read up on.

Anything noteworthy?

I will have time during the first half of tomorrow.

[Wake1]

You picked a name that's annoying to type. Now you don't want to get an avatar, which makes players easier to distinguish and threads easier to read. Neither of these are indicative of alignment; if anything they point to you being like 14 and having not developed a concept of empathy yet.

I picked a username that did not divulge any information about me. I know you understand how and why people would do that - it's just where I obfuscate my identity, you straight up lie about it like a sociopath. And you do it shoddily, given your poor opsec earlier in the thread.
But no matter, your whining about how

hard

it is to type letters on a keyboard does not mean you're scum, just a tool.

As for scum, I'm keeping my vote on Monkey. Voting in a blatant effort to get someone else's wagon, anyone at all, to be ahead of your own is scummy to me.

So if he's lying like a sociopath—as you say—why aren't you voting him?

[Wake1]

I have limited time.

Do we have anything pertinent as of yet? Very brief summaries of the latest highlights would suffice. Not reading 25 pages of Day 1 speculation.

[Wake1]

Lapsa's annoying in general. Him being gone would be nice, but would that be best for Town?

Dunno about Sthar. He's being over-reactive? In what way? Not sure if that's normal for him.

[Wake1]

Lapsa's annoying in general. Him being gone would be nice, but would that be best for Town?

Dunno about Sthar. He's being over-reactive? In what way? Not sure if that's normal for him.

I'd prefer not to focus on Katie and focus on Lapsa, but I've posted my case on Katie.

So, don't focus on Katie but on Lapsa... but you have a case on Katie.

yes,

Wake88

. show some fluency of thought

Oh, you certainly do not know me.

wake take a look at my 605

Why should I? Give me the highlights, please. My time's precious, so if you can boil it down and make it worthwhile, I'll take more interest.

[Wake1]

So, why vote Lapsa?

[Wake1]

because

lapsa

is not playing to town wincon

For being immature? For being useless? For being anti-Town?

I'd rather we vote someone for being suspicious, instead of being a cumbersome impediment.

[Wake1]

are none of those things suspicious to you?
why?
what is suspicious?

No, they aren't, unless they're indicative of his alignment through an understanding of his standard gameplay.

In my opinion, using hyperbole, exaggerating things, taking them out of context, and shifting your vote onto growing wagons with frivolous reasons are suspicious things.

[Wake1]

lapsa's insistance that no one him a case on them when we have more than enough is getting old. Meanwhile, you're voting on me and you don't even know why.

This is a bit garbled.

are none of those things suspicious to you?
why?
what is suspicious?

No, they aren't, unless they're indicative of his alignment through an understanding of his standard gameplay.

In my opinion, using hyperbole, exaggerating things, taking them out of context, and shifting your vote onto growing wagons with frivolous reasons are suspicious things.

find me someone who did all those things
and ill gladly join you
((hint: its not monkey))

Never said someone here did.

You asked me what was suspicious, and I gave you my opinion of what I find suspicious in general.

[Wake1]

If you are Town, this is why players shouldn't strive to be weird or annoying in games. It gives a bunch of paranoid and/or murderous players a darn good excuse to achieve a Day 1 lynch.

[Wake1]

Checking in, going to reread....however, I cant imagine my vote is going to change.

also a royal fuck you to Lapsa, I will avoid games with you in the future to be sure.

...I'll not play with him in the future if he continues to deliberately play that way. He sowed confusion, to our detriment.

@Riddles: considering that I'm the player that Lapsa pretended to be, I'd like him changed to a neutral survivor so that he cannot win the game.

Also, this weekend I'm running the Magic Prereleases, and one of my boys is turning 16! Consequently I will be V/LA for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Did I miss something?

Vote: Wake88

His endday play was pretty suspicious, specifically the way he relied on other people's explanation of cases rather than doing his own research.

Please explain this in detail, before I provide a response.

So... who benefits from that?

Frankly, I'm not sure. Being behind in this game, it's going to take me a bit to catch up, especially with the upcoming work schedule.

[Wake1]

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

[Wake1]

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

If I had all the time in the world then yes it'd be lazy. I do not, and I don't think it's too much to ask the other twelve players to give a brief summary. If anything's lazy, it's refusing to even provide a sentence or two i response when you have more time than the person asking. BS on it being anti-Town, BS on it being scummy, and BS on it being lazy. I'm not asking everyone to provide walls of text doing my own work. I'm asking the other players (not all, but at least one) to help me catch up with a sentence or two. What's so difficult about it? Are you trying to fabricate reasons to cast suspicion on me? I think the route you're taking is horrible if you're Town, because if you're Town we are a team, and we help each other out if we are able. There's a chance that one of the people providing a response is Scum, but hey, that's the risk you take in a game of Mafia. People don't suddenly stop asking others for reads because, *gasp*, the person being asked could be Scum. I am not liking this new direction from you, and am now more eager than ever to question the motives behind your actions.

[Wake1]

And? I've got a life outside of Mafia, so pardon if I ask a handful of questions to help me catch up. And what's wrong with 637?

I want to know what your problem is with asking questions to get caught up to speed instead of getting bogged down by sloughing through muck. Don't know about you, but time is precious, so whining about me asking if anything important happened yet isn't wrong at all. You know better. If that's what you think passes for an excuse to vote me, you are sorely mistaken, and I will rip you apart over it until you acknowledge your reasoning here is crud.

My problem is that it's lazy and anti-town. What if the people you are asking for help with are scum?

If I had all the time in the world then yes it'd be lazy. I do not, and I don't think it's too much to ask the other twelve players to give a brief summary. If anything's lazy, it's refusing to even provide a sentence or two i response when you have more time than the person asking. BS on it being anti-Town, BS on it being scummy, and BS on it being lazy. I'm not asking everyone to provide walls of text doing my own work. I'm asking the other players (not all, but at least one) to help me catch up with a sentence or two. What's so difficult about it? Are you trying to fabricate reasons to cast suspicion on me? I think the route you're taking is horrible if you're Town, because if you're Town we are a team, and we help each other out if we are able. There's a chance that one of the people providing a response is Scum, but hey, that's the risk you take in a game of Mafia. People don't suddenly stop asking others for reads because, *gasp*, the person being asked could be Scum. I am not liking this new direction from you, and am now more eager than ever to question the motives behind your actions.

Wow, you don't like a direction where you're being scumread, that's a surprise.

Wrong. I perceive you as being dishonest and fabricating excuses to cast an extremely weak vote. There's a difference between being Scumread, and Scum trying to get you mislynched.

Speaking of differences, there's one between being anti-Town and being scummy.

698: You justify your vote by saying I'm being suspicious for asking for a bit of help to catch up.
709: You then say it's "being lazy and anti-Town."
712: Then you try to make it look like I'm simply angry about being Scumread, which is dishonestly simplistic since I've been Scumread hundreds of times in the past and wasn't angry.

So, which is it? You saying I'm Scummy for asking for a little help to catch up, or being anti-Town because of it, or both? Make up your mind.

[Wake1]

Riddleton, please replace me. I have reached a progressing point in my work-life where I can no longer play more than one game at a time, and even then it drains me dry of energy. Your game, while it is still young, deserves someone who has more time on his or her hands to play. I think it would be more disheartening if I stubbornly stayed in this game to its detriment due to my time constraints. Mafia is a game that requires so much time and energy, and most of mine is going towards goals in the health-care field. Good luck Town.

[Wake1]

I'll reprise this slot if you'll have me, Riddleton and co.

[Wake1]

Still busy, but not so exhausted. Research candidiasis.

Not planning to read through the past posts, so will start from this point on.

[Wake1]

K.

So, sort of found out today that I likely have candidiasis. I have had most of the symptoms for the last three years. When you suffer long enough, you tend to want to find out what it is causing you abject misery. Fatigue, eczema, moodiness, inability to focus, poor memory, brain fog, irritability, anger, etc... Yeah. Plus I have a mountain of clinical proof that I showed my doctor, who looked dumbstruck and instantaneously wrote for me a referral to see an ears/nose/throat specialist. The more I researched, the more shocked I became.

What does this mean?

Means I have to completely change my diet, which is a massive obstacle.

I want to stay in this game because I felt bad for leaving it and Riddleton was nice enough to let me play.

Also, sugar is something that candida albicans (a yeast found in the flora of your gut) feast on. I skipped sugar for almost two days, and, f***, I had a f***ton of energy return back to me. Starch, carbs, and fermented stuff I gave up, too. ...then ten minutes ago I broke down and snarfed a collection of delicious canned goods and half a bar of cheese because I was dying from only eating probiotic greek yogurt.

...now the candidiasis symptoms exploded back.

...this tells me I must bust my hump changing my diet if I ever expect to gain my natural health back, and with it, my energy.

Can't have any sugar. No dessert, no candy, no fruit, no bread, no potato, no grain, no pickles or alcohol or vinegar, etc.

This is bull**** and I'm feeling moody as hell suddenly. F*** this shit. I've got to give up sugar and anything else that causes this yeast to perpetuate.

I have no idea where to begin here, so I'm just going to peck about and see what happens.

[Wake1]

Yeah, I'm friggin' back.

Gimme a few. Ate a can of fruit in light syrup and just had a nasty reaction to it.

If I ask nicely if anything new happened, are you guys gonna get mad about it?

[Wake1]

Yeah, let's lynch that f***er.

VOTE: MonkeyMan

If he flips Scum let's nail droog.

[Wake1]

So, I can't remember.

Did Monkey try diverting attention towards me this game?

It's been awhile, and can't remember 1000+ posts.

[Wake1]

Yeah, just CTRL/F'd his ISO.

[Wake1]

That rat bastard tried to take me out.

[Wake1]

Wake, whatchu thinking today?

I'm thinking meringue pie and a lobster bisque.

Bbl after 16-hr shift today.

[Wake1]

Popping in to say I'm alive.

Too tired to think atm. Caring for behavioral psychopaths is tiring work.

I'll see what I can do this weekend.

[Wake1]

I don't like how Monkey tried to mislynch me.

Anywho, working atm. Need to catch up somehow.

[Wake1]

I am here, but am having difficulty putting time towards the game.

Won't spend hours diving into this game.

Am staying in it atm because MM

did

try to railroad me Yesterday, so that's worth something.

[Wake1]

Yeah, let's lynch that f***er.

VOTE: MonkeyMan

If he flips Scum let's nail droog.

I actually agree with the above quite a bit. Wake

has

been posting quite a bit in other games / joining other game. However, I don't really see Scum!Wake doing this. Or at least I think Katie / Pacman's defenses of Monkey were extremely shallow.

The more Katie doesn't post, the worse she looks to me. I know she's busy or whatever, but she said she'd be replying to me, and so did Pacman tonight.

I still think Pacman dies today, Katie dies tomorrow.

Uh huh. So how 'bout droog?

[Wake1]

Aero et al, what do you make of ||||'s drama?

[Wake1]

If you wanna get anywhere in this game ||||, you gotta change your attitude.

[Wake1]

Yeah, let's lynch that f***er.

VOTE: MonkeyMan

If he flips Scum let's nail droog.

I actually agree with the above quite a bit. Wake

has

been posting quite a bit in other games / joining other game. However, I don't really see Scum!Wake doing this. Or at least I think Katie / Pacman's defenses of Monkey were extremely shallow.

The more Katie doesn't post, the worse she looks to me. I know she's busy or whatever, but she said she'd be replying to me, and so did Pacman tonight.

I still think Pacman dies today, Katie dies tomorrow.

Uh huh. So how 'bout droog?

Nvm. He's replacing out.

[Wake1]

PM'd Riddleton and reported |||| for abusive behavior in 1138.

[Wake1]

I'm here, but behind.

Willing to work with fellow players if you're interested.

[Wake1]

Also I knew wake didnt like to play scumslots.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p6633426

Not correct.

[Wake1]

Doesn't like to play townslots either.

Oh, I certainly enjoy playing any role in the absence of prickish malcontents.

One day your behavior here will catch up to you, and you may learn like I did.

[Wake1]

I'd rather lynch Wake. If he's anywhere as good as he brags to be, then he's dangerous. Even though I think he was talking about droog, his end of day comment

Wake88 wrote:
In my opinion, using hyperbole, exaggerating things, taking them out of context, and shifting your vote onto growing wagons with frivolous reasons are suspicious things.

hit way too close to home for me. I want him dead.

I am incredibly good at this game.

I am also incredibly tied up and bound.

[Wake1]

You know ||||, it's people like you who make other people not want to play Mafia.

You're arrogant. You don't think before you speak. Little effort is made on your part to consider the circumstances of other players.

What you remind me of is a rude teenager who thinks he can bellow his way through a conversation.

I didn't have much time to play in this particular game. However, I did post in accordance with Riddleton's rules, so that even though I didn't post a lot, it was enough. That wasn't good enough for you, and you spared no opportunity to behave like a spoiled brat. Somewhere down the line you were done a disservice, and now we have to put up with your actions until you eventually learn the hard way. I replaced out because you spoiled what would have otherwise been a mildly pleasant game for me. I have nothing to prove, and certainly nothing to you ||||. What you should have done was let things be, but yet again you opened your foul mouth when I posted a comment that wasn't even directed towards you post-game.

Guess even a trite victory isn't enough to keep you from behaving like some unprovoked bastard no one cares to be around.

[Wake1]

Hope Riddleton's ok. Thank you N for preventing the game from being abandoned.

What I need to do is limit myself to only one game at a time (it's doubtful staff could enforce that restriction on me, but if they could it would certainly help). Obviously that sounds insane, but there are times where I pick up additional games out of boredom during rare instances of non-busyness. If I played only one game at a time it would do my gameplay in general a world of good, because sometimes these games become so convoluted and complex.

I did suspect |||| because of his behavior, but was completely blindsided by curiouskarmadog. CKD I'd like to play with you and the others here in the future. I don't like it when I get completely hoodwinked by Scum, which serves as an impetus to keep playing and getting better at this awesome game. Based on MM's lynch, and the things said and done aftwerwards, what do you guys think are some things we can learn to look out for in the future?

[Wake1]

I can't even imagine being in seven games.

[Wake1]

Creepy.