Mini 1652: Sweet Dreams - Game Over!

[JohnnyFarrar]

Any chance of the mod force replacing Lapsa if we all request it?

mod?

I mean I doubt it.

@mod

-also prod or replace prolapsed brain?

It hasn't even been 48 hours?

[bji]

So Silver, in a perfect world where people didn't derphammer, is your vote still on pisskop?

No, for ~reasons~

:/

@bji don't intercept other people's questions.

Why not? I just didn't understand the syntax. I'm not asking for a different answer than what she gave you already, I just want clarification on what that answer was.

[bji]

Why not? I just didn't understand the syntax. I'm not asking for a different answer than what she gave you already, I just want clarification on what that answer was.

By the way I'm assuming that the word "reasons" with tildes on either side has some specific conventional meaning on these forums, and I'm just asking what that convention is.

[SilverWolf]

@mod

-also prod or replace prolapsed brain?

It hasn't even been 48 hours?

By the time he sees it in the morning it will be close.

Why not? I just didn't understand the syntax. I'm not asking for a different answer than what she gave you already, I just want clarification on what that answer was.

By the way I'm assuming that the word "reasons" with tildes on either side has some specific conventional meaning on these forums, and I'm just asking what that convention is.

It means I have reasons I don't want to share right now.

[Nickname]

town: SilverWolf
scum: Nickname

should be enough for awhile

If your reasons vor thinking I'm scum are that I don't cite reasns for my votes, hello hypocrite.

[Lapsa]

If your reasons vor thinking I'm scum are that I don't cite reasns for my votes, hello hypocrite.

if you are scum, hello scum

[Lapsa]

VOTE: evilpacman18

[West9]

VOTE: bji
Don't like how the pisskop vote was snuck in there behind Victor's vote, and then surrounded by questions and joke-talk/clarificaitons

Can you explain the mechanics of "sneaking" votes in on a forum where every vote is plain to see and additionally posted in every vote count?

Can you explain why I would use the much more obvious reverse video font for my vote tag when I could use the much easier to miss bold font for my vote tag, if my goal was to "sneak" a vote in?

Can you explain why I would go through the trouble to also put a big reverse video announce of my unvote also (which I do every time I vote just so it's clear whom I am unvoting at the same time), if I wanted to "sneak" my vote in?

Your accusation makes literally zero sense. Is this weak push really the best you could come up with?

i'm not saying that you tried to, like, camouflage a vote into a post. The timing of your pisskop vote felt like you were trying to use the momentum from Victor's vote to cast suspicion on him for questioning you. The whole thing read to me as opportunistic - which probably would have been a better word to use than "sneaky," but still.
wtf was with the time gap between my vote and your reaction to it?

i hate to do this whole "only addressing the thing about me" thing and then go, but it's 2am and i'm tired and i want to watch the new aziz special so goodnight.

[evilpacman18]

Well short answer to your question Aeronaut, I just think anyone who gets to L-1 like 3 pages into a brand new game is really likely to be town and we either have a really vote-happy town in which case we probably already are doomed or one or two scum was helping to push the wagon along. Here's every pisskop vote: up to where he got to L-1 (note I quoted Victor's vote and then his post with reasoning that came before it after the vote)

Spoiler: votes

VOTE: pisskop
Why not?

VOTE: Pisskop

Tell me more about your inability to play without spoonfed data; as well as your need to tell us about it.

This seems unnecessarily dickish. Pisskop did you draw scum?

If I said yes, would you promise not to lynch me?

If I said yes, would you believe me for even a second?

Lol at trying to scumread somebody for being aggressive.

I didn't realise being mean counted as aggressive play now.

I'm going to put bji in my town pile for the time being.

Odd that you'd know how to push the game forward but claim to have no clue what to do without your matrix.

Odd that you'd take my clearly joking statement about not knowing what to do without a matrix (sorry I didn't include a smiley, I thought it was so obvious as to not need one) and try to run this far with it. What is your agenda here? It feels like trying to deflect attention away from yourself.

UNVOTE: VictorDeAngelo
VOTE: pisskop

UNVOTE: VictorDeAngelo

VOTE: pisskop

I'm not claiming that you are scum, I'm voting you

Hey guys, catching up~

Tell me more about your inability to play without spoonfed data; as well as your need to tell us about it.

This is forced and overly aggressive, and you know it.

BJI, how would you proced with the game without a list of scum/PRs?

Well it's a new concept to me, and to be quite frank, I did not realize that there were mafia games played in which there was no matrix. I really liked the matrix concept in my newbie game; I thought it was a nice framework on which to hang my thought process. And I thought this game would end up being just like one of the newbie games (i.e. with announced PMs and a matrix), just with more people. I guess I was wrong. No biggie though, I'll adapt.

In terms of how I will proceed, I guess I will have a much larger space to search through mentally when trying to make reads. Right now the space feels so large that I am not sure how I will proceed. But each mafia game I've played has taught me something and I am sure this will be no exception.

I think you'll find that games that have closed setups are much more fun and challenging. Definitely a step up from newbie games.

Lol at trying to scumread somebody for being aggressive.

Well the multiple question marks and exclamation points at the end were intended to be the giveaway. Also the idea that someone would really believe that they don't know how to play just because there is no matrix to look at was, I thought, by itself obviously tongue in cheek.

Maybe I'm just humorless today. Been stressful now that it decided to rain ontop of the monthlong snow. Its a swamp out there, if snow was mud.

These two posts in conjunction make me think Pisskop is scum. See, you're trying to make a joke / discredit people who are scum reading you for your ridiculous push, and then in the next post, you're retracting and almost apologizing for it. It's like you realized people were going to call you out, acknowledged it, and then immediately stopped doing it so you could try something else.

VOTE: Pisskop

I'm not yellow Keely. Get your shit together.

Tell me more about your inability to play without spoonfed data; as well as your need to tell us about it.

Are you implying something here?

bji's facetious nature is rubbing me the wrong way, will probably try to separate that from my read. He seems more cautious than most newbies and I don't know what to think of that yet.

Fuck West

I have a role claim to make: I'm a time travelling cop.

Fucking scared the shit out of me

Aeronaut's vote is real

and all caught up. Baaaaa VOTE: Pisskop

Count Dooku's is negligible... RVS vote.
Victor's vote is actually not for bad reasoning... that post was unnecessarily dickish...
Now I personally subscribe to the old scumhunting adage that the third and fourth spots on a wagon are more likely to be scum. That's BJI and Lapsa here. Lapsa just needs to be out of the game so it's not really relevant. BJI's vote is not bad either...

hmm I'm kinda convincing myself here that the votes on pisskop are not scummy votes.

Aeronaut's vote is actually the first one I don't like, and it's not just the vote but the subsequent discussion where pisskop defended himself pretty well but Aeronaut was sort of dragging it out even though his argument was getting weaker. If one thinks of the previous votes as all town motivated, this would theoretically be a good place for scum to hop on to keep the mislynch wagon momentum going. Especially since all the pisskop votes were on page 2 and probably made with some kind of reckless abandon about the possibility of taking him to L-1 too early. Because Lapsa's vote is irrelevant, Aeronaut's is the one that creates the dangerous trend, as well as being the one that is most poorly reasoned.
And then JohnnyFarrar's just seems like he didn't know it was gonna be L-1... I'm gonna chalk it up to town reckless abandon.

84 might actually be Lapsa being somewhat town?

I have no clue why Nickname thought it would be a good idea to put pisskop back at L-1, that's really scummy.
Silverwolf seems town in 96, just for saying what I'm saying.

votes on pisskop are not bad reasoning but he still seems town to me
bji seems to be trying hard. a bit simple minded and a bit vote happy but town.

I'm down to lynch Nickname today

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE: evilpacman18

[Nickname]

I didn't even know L-1 is such a big deal lmao

I mean what's the difference from being one or two votes away from dying, unless someone's really dumb he won't get insta'd anyway

[Nickname]

Btw, by really dumb I mean someone lynching him when he's L1.

[VictorDeAngelo]

I've got a lean town read on Lapsa now.

@Nickname

- You say you've played on other sites, what sites were they?

[Nickname]

Wouldn't saying their names be advertising though? It was one German forum and two English ones, both the German and one of the English have a pretty long history of playing Mafia.

[VictorDeAngelo]

I don't think it'll be in issue.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So Silver, in a perfect world where people didn't derphammer, is your vote still on pisskop?

No, for ~reasons~

:/

@bji don't intercept other people's questions.

Why not? I just didn't understand the syntax. I'm not asking for a different answer than what she gave you already, I just want clarification on what that answer was.

I was actually referrring to this. If you defend someone, any reads that we could have gotten from their answer go out the window.

I don't think it'll be in issue.

It will not.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

@TMJ
Why did you vote bji?
Why did you unvote?

I kinda miss the part that we ald at page 5 that time. I see no more reason to pressure bji.

On the second note i am interested to see regarding this lapsa wagon. Since he havent come out lately.

um


what

This is my first game after 5 years. Haha. I kinda miss it and decide to play again. I only see page 1 when i make that post.

[Cheetory6]

Votecount 1.04

pisskop

[3] - Aeronaut, JohnnyFarrar, bji

Lapsa

[2] - SilverWolf, Nickname

bji

[1] - West9

Aeronaut

[1] - pisskop

SilverWolf

[1] - VictorDeAngelo

Not Voting

[5] - Count Dooku, evilpacman18, Lapsa, Prolapsed Brain, Tjoe Min Ja

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Wednesday, March 18, @ 10:00 AM EST, which is in (expired on 2015-03-18 10:00:00).

Any chance of the mod force replacing Lapsa if we all request it?

mod

?

newp.

[JohnnyFarrar]

@pacman what exactly makes putting someone at L-1 scummy?

[JohnnyFarrar]

@lapsa quote the part of pacman's post that convinced you to remove your vote

[bji]

wtf was with the time gap between my vote and your reaction to it?

On first read I didn't think much of your comment about me because it read just like an off-the-cuff statement made without much conviction. I was waiting for JohnnyFarrar to say what he disliked so much about you from the get-go and decided to ask him again to respond, and in doing so I re-read your post just to be sure I hadn't missed something. And I saw your comment about me again and decided to respond to it to get you to talk, since I had little other obvious direction to go at that point. And also because you seem like a person who has a thought process, but are choosing not to participate much. So I think you need some prompting.

[Lapsa]

@lapsa quote the part of pacman's post that convinced you to remove your vote

84 might actually be Lapsa being somewhat town?

[Count Dooku]

@lapsa quote the part of pacman's post that convinced you to remove your vote

84 might actually be Lapsa being somewhat town?

Lol. It is the worst reason to unvote.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why's that?

[JohnnyFarrar]

@mod

confirmation on a prolapsed brain prod?

-confirmed