Open 588 Pick Your Poison -- Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey guys, I'm here to play. Hi Nacho.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So is there an innocent child in the open? Has anyone claimed yet? Quick recap of who's scum please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pisskop, I know you're online. Give me some cliff notes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Metal is lynchbait. Not sure abouy sakura.

vote: remniscence

[Albert B. Rampage]

Great, let's get him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know what, I change my mind.

Unvote, vote Metal

[Albert B. Rampage]

Catching up

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: ika

Nothing to do with the nightkill, all to do with the hammer. Keep it simple.

[Albert B. Rampage]

vote: Sakura Hanna

We should at least have a semblance of a counter-wagon before ending the day. House is town. NJAC might be scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah...I'm going to sheep Nacho on this.

Vote: NJAC

ika is still a good lynch. I bet you that Sakura is probably the mastermind scum of the bunch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Where is ika?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's not a bad wagon, but it being the only wagon is bad for the town, if that makes sense. It takes away the accountability of anyone on the wagon and prevents future analysis.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ika I'm looking forward to your contributions to this game, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No matter how bad I've played this game, I'm not scum. The NJAC hammer was really bad. No one even had a chance to post. TellTaleHeart believes that everyone except her on the NJAC bandwagon is scum, which is a bad premise if scum are strategic at all in their voting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Drezi

[Albert B. Rampage]

ika is a lettuce. I really hate his playstyle whether town or scum. It's really not fun to vote for someone, leave the site and you come back and ika hammered confirmed town that could have made scum waste an NK and kept another confirmed town in the game.

ika has butchered a lot of potential evidence here, but I'm going to parse what I can. Drezi. Looking back, I'm going to say that I'm suspicious of her questions. She's not taking responsibility for finding scum at all. I don't warm up to little helper types who siphon off proactive players, it looks like she has ulterior motives. I have a solid townread on Nacho because he's completely isolated himself with the way he's been acting yesterday. I don't see scum acting so independently, and being that badly wrong, because if he was scum, he would know exactly who the scum is and not be so blatantly bad. He used to be a good player a few years ago, now he quotes from 50 shades of gray and is more wrong than right. ika could be acting extremely stupid and screwing us over. I've seen him quickhammer on Day 1 as town before, and at least another instance where he hammered like that. I've also seen him do it as scum once and we should have policy lynched him right then and there. He's on my blacklist after this game. House has echoed my thoughts pretty accurately in the game and I see him as town. Lalendra and Telltaleheart aren't townreads. I like TTH's posting today, but not her slot before. Lalendra I think is scum based on similar reasoning to Drezi. Riabi is a question mark.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ika quickhammering d1 as town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=450

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Drezi

Spoiler:

Your suspicions are skewed by the coin toss premise of ika being scum, invalidating everything you say.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I like Riabi so far, he's not giving a scummy vibe where he's constantly asking others who they suspect and forming his opinion based on that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm more than happy to lynch Riabi tomorrow. He'll flip scum, then we lynch ika.

This kind of sticks out like a sore thumb though.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Drezi is like the perfect scumbuddy though. She could be scum with anyone here. She had a strong townread on Sir Cyanide on Day 1, okay, then she flip flopped around ika's slot (dooku) the entire game while not contributing much that would draw attention back to her. The only independent thing I saw her do was her Cyanide WK'ing back on Day 1. That's enough for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

pisskop was likely the vig kill. Why do you say that?

I'm an idiot. Nevermind.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Riabi is definitely town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your avatar is a girl...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah...not gonna vote telltaleheart today...

[Albert B. Rampage]

(ika, Riabi, Nacho) or (ika, ABR, Nacho) scum teams make lots of sense, so your "PoE" is already flawed.

If Nacho was scum, you would never see it coming. This is Nacho town, I guarantee it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Lalendra

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynch Lalendra or we might as well resign right here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This game has been letdown after letdown. I can't even imagine us winning this. Nobody listens. People rush to bandwagon without thinking. Just stop and think for a moment, how is Lalendra town? That vote on Riabi is scummy as hell. She's scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynching ika today is like saying "Jesus take the wheel". I'm not about that plan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't know, Drezi. You've been asking that question for the longest time, and nobody knows the answer or we would be in a much better position now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can tell you it's not Nacho or Riabi who have been my town reads for even before Riabi claimed. We are still waiting on another PR to claim and that could confirm one more innocent. I don't know beyond that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

TTH's slot was scummy, ika could be scum, it could be you. Lalendra is the one I'm most sure of.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've had a townread on House but his vote for Riabi puts me on the fence about him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What does it matter whether it is 1-shot or 2-shot?

[Albert B. Rampage]

But why did you vote him without a counterclaim even if he was 1-shot? He's confirmed town no matter how many shots he has unless he gets cc'd.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You forgot there was a limited number of PRs?

[Albert B. Rampage]

House is overdefensive. I don't like this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Swearing up and down the block because I pursued a line of questioning is being defensive.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Being Gregory House on House MD...? Or are you referring to your own easily forgotten meta?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can't tell the difference between you and Wake's playstyle TBH.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I feel like this is such a lazy attack to pin it on dooku, that's such a cop-out.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't even know what Lalendra is doing now, but I absolutely wouldn't want to lynch her, noone ever pushed her and now suddenly people want to lynch her, it just screams scum wanting easy mislynch.

This blows my mind on the scale of scumminess. Going after someone who has never been gone after is an easy mislynch? How does that even work in your brain?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You never pointed a finger at her, not even a single shred of doubt, and now you're just coming up with your shit that she's scum go ahead and lynch her. She's been on the sidelines, noone has a strong feeling about her being town, so naturally it'll be easy to start making people paranoid.

I did point my finger at her, in the beginning of the day. I voted you but I said I suspected her.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can't be serious.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Drezi

[Albert B. Rampage]

I need Nacho.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Riabi, why is your vote not on Drezi? Are you saving him for the vig tonight?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm looking at it. I still think you're scum. The entire game you've been flip flopping on ika's slot, then during the middle of the game you just go off and ask everyone a million questions to set up your night kill depending on who answers what and who they would suspect beyond who they are voting, and now during the endgame you're lighting up and getting excited to win. Your disappointment in ika looks more like you're happy to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You made a few townie posts last page but your overall play during the entire length of this game points to your alignment being scum; it's as simple as that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote

I don't want to be wrong. Nacho needs to comment.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Please, let town know your brilliant plan for the future, who am I scum with, who you are planning to proceed to lynch. It sure is easy to single out someone call him scum and try to get the lynch off to seal the game. Not calling anyone else scum just means you're trying to brush up to everyone to get enough townies to vote me.

When you ask "who are they scum with" it sounds more like you're sowing discontent and deciding who to NK based on it rather than "trying to get people to be paranoid so they don't quicklynch town" which I don't know if anybody actually buys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I reviewed the setup's wiki page and there's no mafia roleblocker in this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Riabi is confirmed town LOL

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you kidding me right now? You actually made me laugh and I don't know if that's a good thing or not lol!

[Albert B. Rampage]

First post says it's possible we have a JK. JK is a roleblocker.

A town jailkeeper. Scum are all powerless and share a group action so they can pick someone to kill a townie at night. They can't block you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Riabi needs to kill tonight to equalize, no matter what alignment we lynch today. Odd numbered town is better for us than even number.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's Lalendra. Are you trying to tell me like all the people who have been in the spotlight are more suspicious than all the ones that most people have forgotten are in the game?

[Albert B. Rampage]

That kind of discussion is meaningless.

My three are x, y and z.

z: I'm not scum! What's your scumteam if I'm town?

Well then it would be x, y, and v.

v: I'm not scum, it's W!

Pointless arguing. There's no plan. This isn't fruitful.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I see what you're saying but I disagree. It's not that town can't do that, it's that it's cocky. And I know that I'll change my opinion nine times after a flip before I decide who I want to vote next. Why are you asking people to say something they don't really mean? If they genuine don't know what the three scum are, why are you trying to force them to invent it?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I need Nacho.

I don't think Drezi is scum.

But why? Drezi can definitely be scum. There are some town posts but what before then?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: ika

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's shown that he doesn't want to participate in any capacity. We're not going to win with him but we might without him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

TTH you can't say Drezi is town just based on today's posts. Scum are getting thirsty today, they see the end in sight, they will make a final push to mislynch and avoid thr vig kill. Who you think is town is probably the scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pretty much, yeah. I don't want to lynch you today anymore although I think you can easily be scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've seen my share of scum pushing obviously wrong lines of thinking to appear town. I can give examples if needed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Which, is absolutely ridiculous coming after the first quote, you made before this day.

If ika gets into a situation at LYLO, scum automatically win anyway. I have no choice but to vote for him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What else are we going to do? Let ika determine the outcome of the game?

[Albert B. Rampage]

What did you watch?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Or it could be you, Lalendra, and TTH.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're a funny man, aren't you?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lalendra should be scum, unless I'm way off about this game. What doesn't make sense about any of this is the night 1 kill. Why Sir Cyanide? He suspected Sakura Hana and TTH and I don't remember who else. He wasn't a fan of lynching dooku.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: TTH

Pushing Nacho to hammer and then lining up a vig kill on me. Nope.

This is scum angling for endgame.

TTH is scum. Ika is as well due to his avoiding the game, but I want TTH today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I rather lynch clever scum pushing for my death to win than lurker scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Say what you want Lalendra, I still think you're scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum played well.

Thanks! Gg all.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will never again moderate a game with three-week deadlines.

WTF was I

thinking???

Yeah, seriously...