CI1656: Hearthstone Mafia (GAME OVER)

[killerjester]

/confirming that mages are overpowered garbage

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VOTE: Klazam

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VOTE: Grib

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Grib what makes you think there are 4 scum?

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While you're at it why do you think Klazam is town?

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freek

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The Grib wagon was engineered to gauge everyone's reaction, get a read on the players substantially supporting/criticizing it, and to look for opportunistic counterwagons.

Grib (the man, the myth, the legend himself) - Reacted very reasonably. Didn't flail or anything, instead continued to engage the game, look for scum on his wagon, and the such. Lean-town.

dragonspawn - Echos Grib's vote on myself, and at least acknowledges Reck's vote showed the same traits. However, the RVS over-justification for choosing me over Reck comes off as forced. All around he's wishy washy with his reads and seems reluctant to take a firm stance on anything this early in the game, despite "kicking the hornet's nest". Lean-scum.

freekazoid - Has genuine reads, even in spite of the head dissonance (or rather, reinforced by it?) Actively engages with other players and manages to hop around wagons in a manner that keeps protown momentum and drives the game forward. Firm town.

Mantisdreamz - Comes off as entirely uninterested in scumhunting. Content to sheep the Klazam vote and fly under the radar. Falls somewhere between lean and firm scum.

ika - Stays active and trying to prevent the rest of the game from stagnating despite being admittedly apathetic. Strikes me as town because I feel scum in his position would be more complacent with a stagnating game. Lean-town.

prawneater - Needs more content. Kinda bad. And by bad I mean scummy. Lean-scum.

VOTE: Mantisdreamz

[killerjester]

Y'all are taking me way too literally. I posted six reads and all you can focus on is "OMG KJ SAID THE GRIB WAGON WAS ALL HIS IDEA WAAAAAHHHH"

Yes I was the fourth on it. It doesn't really matter who started it. It doesn't really matter why anyone was on it. My point was everything that happened before the Grib wagon was inane bullshit and so I threw on an empty vote to see what would happen.

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Well it was and I am. What are you gonna do about it?

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Dragon is pretty scummy as well. Especially don't like his vaguely-explained switch to Reck when he noticed my wagon wasn't taking off. He's asked a lot of aimless questions and hasn't really applied an analysis when people reply to him. He's continuing his wishy-washy trend. It feels like he's scared to lay down any firm reads, and is covering up for it by posting fluff and kicking up a lot of dust without doing much of anything.

Mantis is really latching on to the fact that freek had an early townread on me. Looking at it now it does seem a little fishy, but I think she's really blowing it out of proportion. It's not a strong point, and certainly not an excuse to ignore the rest of the game.

Would be fine with lynching either of these two today.

Prawn's #192 makes me feel a little bit better about him. Puts him around the read of neutral-scum for me because it's just about his only substantial post.

Jason's #309 is really bad.

And ActionDan is probably town but it's hard to tell because he's been lurking so much.

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Like Dragon is scummy in his own right and it very notable, but it has no bearing on the scummy things Mantis has done. It really bothers me that Jason would use Dragon's play as a defense of Mantis' actions. [Read: "tu quoque"]

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I'm not, i'm asking why Dragon is less scummy then Mantis, and i'm defending my town read well doing it.

Like he just now again avoided the fucking question from page 4 WHILE QUOTING THE FUCKING POST.

Well you're asking him why he's tunneling Mantis mere moments after he gave Grib a case on Mantis. Clearly you are less interested in his reasons for tunneling Mantis and more interested in why he isn't tunneling Dragon instead. If that's the case, why can't you just ask for his Dragon read? Why imply that Mantis should be ignored because Dragon is scummier than her?

[killerjester]

Prod dodge. Lost a close friend on Sunday and it's been a struggle for me. Will post later tonight when I have some time to focus, or consider replacing out if I can't.

[killerjester]

Have I mentioned Sonic is town? Specifically, [#324] is fucking spot on. Jason's defense of Mantis was not only poor in execution (Dragon's scumminess does not have anything to do with her alignment), but also based on meta that appears to be everything except reliable. In fact, he's hardly addressed the things she's done in THIS game, but to say her point about freek's early read holds weight (which it doesn't).

I'm liking Jason for scum more and more by the minute. Scumreads sit at Mantis >= Jason > Dragon > prawn (who btw is continuing to lazypost)

Obligatory "WHAR THE FACK ARE DAN AND ABR" post.

Reck is raging and I don't really understand why,

ika's play is entirely unimpressive as of late.

What is this game.

Grib is still generally goodposting but his vote on ika is bad and he should feel bad for it. We need help lynching hardscum rn can I get a what what?

I didn't look at the freek/Krystal back'n'forth too closely because today's been fucking long and my mind is pretty worn out. I'll read it through again tomorrow and let you know if I find anything of interest.

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ika's play is entirely unimpressive as of late.

i aim to displease

Dude did you just ctrl+f your name on this page? Don't lie to me ika.

[killerjester]

Why do you think ABR is town?

[killerjester]

Here's my current tally

Krystal Bald (3) - killerjester, Sonic Heroes, prawneater
prawneater (3) - Grib, Krystal Bald, Klazam
the freekazoid (3) - xRECKONERx, AngryPidgeon, Albert B. Rampage
xRECKONERx (2) - dragonspawn, the freekazoid
Grib (1) - ActionDan
not voting (1) - ika

Which is fucking pathetic considering we only have like 4 days left. I'm most comfortable with lynching KB because the people on the prawn wagon are terrible (Klazam's vote in particular set off every goddamn red flag in my body), and I don't understand the freek wagon AT ALL. Can someone explain it like I'm 5?

[killerjester]

Dragon or Klazam are good lynches. I thought prawn was scummy at a point but I hate everyone on his wagon and honestly if he's getting pushed this late in the day he's probably town.

Why do you think ika is scum?

[killerjester]

VOTE: prawn

Looking at the wagons and this one makes me feel good.

I'm trying to trust my gut more.

Guys? GUYS?!?!?!!!!

[killerjester]

Yes. Incredibly so.

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Literally everyone on the prawn wagon is scum until further notice. I feel KB is the best lynch today but I promise you freek we can lynch dragon tomorrow. Sound good?

[killerjester]

VOTE: dragonspawn

[killerjester]

I vote prawn and a counter wagon on me pops up with less than 24 hrs to go. Sounds totally town motivated.

I'm bulletproof.

Not going to be back today. I wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for the deadline.

If you lynch me at least I can guarantee you the scum on my wagon.

Can you tell us the scum on your wagon if you're still here? You might not have another chance to.

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VOTE: KB

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This fucking game.

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Like throw me a bone or something goddamn. Who's actually here right now? List the people you'd be cool with lynching today. We still have some time to make this work.

Klazam, AP, or KB for me

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I'll take a look at ABR but I'm pretty sure he was giving me townvibes the last time I tried to read him. What scummy things has he done?

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Okay VOTE: AP

I've not much experience with ABR but he's always struck me as a competent player. He was a published author on the mafiascum wiki when I was a newbie on this site. And he hasn't been exactly a rockstar so far but at least he's made his reads clear and given me the impression that he intends to make more of an effort going forward. I felt like scum in his position would play more convincingly as town to begin with.

[killerjester]

dragon felt really town after his claim

VOTE: prawn

[killerjester]

Leaving now for dinner someone please fucking hammer

[killerjester]

hi sup guys

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I kinda forget why I thought KB was scum. Dragon and AP are town for sure tho.

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AP's 935 makes sense to me. I would've expected for town KB to wait to see who would first introduce the ABR kill -> scum KB line of thought. At least, that's what I imagine I would have done. That being said, scum KB would probably wait for the accusations to dismiss them on some WIFOM basis. The fact that they did neither reads as overeager town to me. At any rate, it certainly isn't a case of too scummy to be scum and Anti bothers me for suggesting that's what AP's case represents.

[killerjester]

ok what else happened

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Still like freek for town. Reck and ika are just hard to read idk it's hard to see anything behind the rage, Reck's play has definitely improved over D1. Sonic, Klazam and Dan are pinging my scum radar the hardest.

VOTE: Sonic Heroes

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Why do you think KB scum?

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My scumread on Dan is mostly due to his stance on Dragon. He originally analyzed Dragon's play, quite well if I do say so myself. But more recently it seems like he wants to lynch him because of his BP claim. It comes off as weak, lazy, and for the most part inane since his opinion is that scum can have BP too (but so can town?)

Personally I think Dragon has gotten a lot better if you ignore the appeals to emotion.

[killerjester]

At best I ignore emotional appeals as null completely. At worst I think they make you look more scummy.

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Hi Tere

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uc3A5A8OBs&t=16s