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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:40 pm

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Got a 'didn't target anyone' on Kalimar tonight. So, one of you must be a lying Ninja SK. Not sure who yet, will reread the whole game and post later

Mod and all, VLA until monday
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:21 am

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i guess you could say somebody used crazy ninja magic.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:27 am

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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:32 am

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In post 1625, Toon Fighter wrote:Mod and all, VLA until monday

Acknowledged.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:54 pm

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It's supposed to be a joke, Kalimar.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:57 pm

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Guys, are we gonna move forward with this? I'll reread and ISO both of you, and please try and do the same. Lets win this thing.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:21 am

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*shrug*

Vote: tn5421


I'm not wall-casing this time. Look at the NKs and specifically look at how D4 went down after Sera claimed. These are probably enough to get you the right answer.

I'm taking the chance that you're town.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:49 am

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tn5421 [1] - Kalimar

Not Voting [2] - Toon Fighter, tn5421

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.
Day Seven will end on 4/30 at 11am PST.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:32 am

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vote: tn
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:22 am

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tn5421 [2] - Kalimar, Toon Fighter


Not Voting [1] - tn5421

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:34 am

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Endgame


The pastries screamed that
tn5421
was the last threat.

The little carrot cake that was known as Toon Fighter suddenly lashed out and scooped up tn5421 in his paws.

Kalimar looked on in horror as, standing over the table, was none other than Balthazar, the little puppy with a large appetite.

Balthazar's snacks awaited.


tn5421, Fruitcake (Townie), aligned with The Bakery (The Town)
was Lynched on Day Seven.
Kalimar, Croquembouche (Townie), aligned with The Bakery (The Town)
, was Eaten in Endgame.





Balthazar followed the Walker Family to the city hospital.

He understood little of the family's reunion, though it looked as though Lady Luna Walker would be returning home with them. The girls were ecstatic and Andrius seemed to be finally at peace.

And, at the right moment, he dropped a little box he had saved from the madness - the little box of Wedding Cake.

Oh, how the girls adored him and scrated him behind the ears for saving what they thought was lost.

Let them think he saved them. For as long as he stood guard over the bakery, no threat would again harm the pastries.

Except himself.

When he hungered.

Which was often.


Toon Fighter, Balthazar (Serial Pastry Eater), aligned with Himself, Survived and Won.





Thank you all for playing. I hope that despite some hiccups (and an over-powered puppy) that you did enjoy the game.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:34 am

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bah
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:35 am

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Role PMs to come.

PTs:
Dead PT
Mod PT
Mafia PT

Night Actions are in the Mod PT as you go along.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:38 am

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yay! I win :D
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:39 am

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gratz TF
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:51 am

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A few things first:

Regarding The Setup:

I dropped the ball. Let me explain a bit. I started design before signups with the Filling/Topping concept which survived in its entirety. Other things like Nikanor, dram, Toog's original roles were lost. I never decided on Vanilla-less, but I designed every role with some form of ability. I then realized that giving people abilities for the sake of giving them abilities was pointless and only unnecessarily complicated things for the sake of giving everyone an ability. RECK's role was one of the first developed. I built the scumteam around him.

It was more of 'this could have been way better than it actually was' and that's largely on me. I don't think I'll do a uPick again because the time constraint really hurt. Most of my better games took chunks of time to design and I hate the constraint I placed myself under especially when waiting for things.

(And yes, Katsuki, if you are reading this, I did borrow the Mold/Burnt modifier.)

So some things were lost along the way, and others were not amply changed to reflect the new setup.
Namely Balthazar.
As discussed in the Dead PT/Mod PT, Balthazar had one/two too many helpful abilities/bonuses.
Toon Fighter, I think, did well with what he was given. He killed those who suspected him (Toog, Nik) and claimed Tracker early on, netting scum, and coasting on Bulletproof and Filling-immunity to endgame.

That being said, the fact that he was as strong as he was lies at my feet. It passed design, it passed my review, it passed review.
He should not have been immune to fillings, and he probably should have had the earlier version of his Track where he could only track filled players.
Anywho.

The Mafia was solid and used Rhizopus in a way I never intended; I expected them to Janitor-Kill combo and not use it on themselves. Which was actually ingenious if it had worked as they intended.

Regarding the Game:

The apathy. I really don't know what it was, but the apathy was so real. I don't exactly know what it was because it started from D1 and lasted most of the game with notable exceptions being D2 regarding Rhizopus. It was somewhat saddening to me, and I could only sort of prod the game along. I considered killing Andrius in endgame again but apathy infected the flavor as well.

There were parts of the game I loved. TF had a running commentary, Nikanor and RECK had some GEMS.

Shadow Dancer's modkill was unfortunate, and really hurt the town.
Town found itself in a very bad position after N1, having lost three PRs in one cycle. Scum was doing well.

UT definitely held the game together D1 and after he died it went all sorts of garbled.
People lurked.
Some people called chunks of the setup (Titus, dram, Espeonage).


Lastly, major props to both TF and Titus. They both understood where they stood in the game, and I think they had a great understanding of what needed to be done/steps they had to take to win.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:57 am

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tbh, I had a pretty good role (for a SK). tracker power, bulletproof, and the kill. I just shouldn't kill chocolate pastries, as I would lose the kill the following night
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:01 pm

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and about shadow dancer, he was gonna be lynched anyway. I don't think the modkill caused problems there.


as for the lurking, in my case, I just took advantage of it. as the town never really pressured me or anyone else, I just lowered my posting rate and pushing lynches/dodging them became a lot easier.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:06 pm

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ROLE PMs

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GollumWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
Birthday Cake, Townie
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The Bakery (The Town)
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You have no abilities other than your vote.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Andrius wrote:
tn5421Welcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
Fruitcake, Townie
. You are aligned with
The Bakery (The Town)
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You have no abilities other than your vote.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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Shadow DancerWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Roleblocker
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You may roleblock another player at night, preventing them from performing any actions that night.


Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Andrius wrote:
Untrod TripodWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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The Bakery (The Town)
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Mold Cop
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You may investigate a player each night to determine if they are
Moldy
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Sourdough
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You are immune to being infected by mold, as Sourdough Bread is naturally resilient to mold.


Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Sourdough meant he could not be infected with Rhizopus.
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EspeonageWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Andy and Luna Cake Topper
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At any time during a Day, you may either PM me or post in-thread
Until Death Do Us Part
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Wedding Cake, Innocent Cake, aligned with The Bakery (The Town)
. Additionally, because you already have a Topper, you cannot receive another Topper, whether you have used the active portion of this ability or not. (Note: If this is done in-thread, please be sure to bold the action!)


Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Requested a Topping so he could not be topped.
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Sprinkled DelightWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Pastry Decorator
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Each night you may choose to decorate a player with any one of the below toppings. Each topping can be used once, and you can only decorate each player once. You cannot choose to decorate yourself, as you are already decorated with Rainbow Sprinkles, nor can you decorate anyone with a topping. Each topping will grant the player a different one-use ability. You do not know what these abilities are beforehand.

Your available toppings are:
  • -Scoop of Ice Cream
    -Custard
    -a Cherry
    -Rainbow Sprinkles

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

In order:
1shot Doc
1shot RB
1shot Ability Cop
1shot Flavor (target learns they were covered with Rainbow Sprinkles)
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Nobody SpecialWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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You have no abilities other than your vote.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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You are
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You have no abilities other than your vote.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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You are
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You have no abilities other than your vote.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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ToogelooWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Voyeur
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You may investigate another player at night, learning the name of each ability that targets your target (besides your own).


Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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KalimarWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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You have no abilities other than your vote.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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NikanorWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Moldy
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Being seven months old, you will investigate as being
Moldy
for the purposes of investigations to determine your alignment.


Doctor
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Each night you may protect a player of your choice. That player will be protected from one killing action for the duration of that night.


Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Andrius wrote:
Toon FighterWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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. You are aligned with
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Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Canine
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You are the Walker family's German Shepherd puppy, out to eat all the pastries you can get your paws on. You are thus immune to all killing actions. (This does not include lynches.) In addition, you cannot receive a 'filling'.


Eat
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Each night you may eat a player, killing them. Being a dog, if you eat a player that is either filled with
Chocolate
or has
Chocolate
in their Role Name, you will be successful in eating them, but you will be unable to use this action the following night. Your killflavor is 'Eaten'.


Track
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Each night, you may track a player and learn the names of any player(s) that they visited that night. This action can be used in addition to 'Eat'.


Your Win Condition: You win when only you are alive (or if nothing can prevent the same). Additionally, you win in the event of 'Scorched Earth', if all players are dead at the dawn of a day.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!


Please note that your original submission is a valid fakeclaim. I will provide a Fakeclaim PM upon request.

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Cheetory6Welcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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. You are aligned with
The Penicillium Mafia (Mafia)
.




Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Filling Concoctor
-
Each night you may choose to 'fill' a pastry (player) with one of two fillings you have access to. Both fillings have different effects, which will take effect the night you perform this action on them.

  • Chocolate Filling - Your target is protected from one kill this night, and cannot perform actions.
    Caramel Filling - Your target is immune to all actions tonight, except killing actions.


Private Topic
-
Your factional abilities and members will be explained here, in a PT for your use.


Penicillium Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

NOTE: This was the only Role that started out as 'Chocolate' for the purposes of TF's Canine ability.
Anyone filled with 'Chocolate Filling' would also count.
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xRECKONERxWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
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. You are aligned with
The Penicillium Mafia (Mafia)
.




Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Filling Concoctor
-
Each night you may choose to 'fill' a pastry (player) with one of two fillings you have access to. Both fillings have different effects, which will take effect the night you perform this action on them.

  • Strawberry Filling - The next action taken by this player cannot be prevented.
    Rhizopus Filling - When a player with this filling dies, their flip will be Janitored - neither their role name nor alignment will be revealed. This filling can only be used twice.


Private Topic
-
Your factional abilities and members will be explained here, in a PT for your use.


Penicillium Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Andrius wrote:
SeraphimWelcome to The Butcher, The Baker, The Pastry-Maker Mafia.

You are
Burnt Beignet, Burnt Goon
. You are aligned with
The Penicillium Mafia (Mafia)
.




Other than your vote you have the following abilities:

Burnt
-
While you are a member of the Penicillium Mafia, which is named after mold, you will not investigate to a Mold Cop as Moldy since you are, in fact, Burnt.


Private Topic
-
Your factional abilities and members will be explained here, in a PT for your use.


Penicillium Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated, and at least one member of your faction is alive.


The Bakery is here.

Please /confirm by PM. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:12 pm

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Yeah being immune to fillings really made a difference for me then :/ I feel sorry for Titus, the game just went out of her control because of my role.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:13 pm

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The scum team had no way of dealing with me except getting me lynched. And that is pretty hard as a claimed tracker with consistent results
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:19 pm

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Thanks for modding, Andy! I thought the setup was fine. The filling mechanic was pretty clever I think, as it gave the scum a lot of tools with the limitation that they could only target each player once (am I reading that correctly?)
I don't think that the SK was particularly overpowered. I think that if we had had a chance to use either of our roleblocks, it would have all been over for TF. Town just really sucked this game and the mafia was powerless against the sk.
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:22 pm

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they could target more than once, in the first page "players may be filled with any number of fillings"
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:23 pm

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Congratulations to TF.

I agree that some of the town players could have played better, myself included. But I do think the SK was a little overpowered for this setup. I don't think an SK should be able to soak up so much towncred in such a way without being punished for it.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:24 pm

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How was TF not confirmed SK from Titus's point of view, though?
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