Mini 1668 - Mafia in Bremen - Game Over!

[TheReverend]

I'm gonna do this.

VOTE: Rev

Still haven't read.

Come at me.

On no. Please don't lynch me.

Please.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm busy Rune.

That is genuine fear from Rev.

He was sweating while writing that.

I can feel it.

[TheReverend]

Actual fear.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I got you Rev.

It'll all be over soon.

[Rune]

Busy enough to keep you from helping town, but not busy enough to keep you from wasting time and detracting from the conversation?

Come back when you are ready.

@Elyse,

I could be convinced either way, but I really think an Oversoul lynch tells us more about the game. I would also lynch Havoc in a heartbeat.
Rev, you, and Jake are my strongest townreads right now, and I think we should collectively decide where to vote.

Havoc and Oversoul would be the two I am ok with lynching immediately. Palkia is a useless lynch. HI would be a poor lynch for town despite the useless play. Axehole and BBT are not on the D2 radar for me. If TDA is scum lurking, good for him because town would be playing so terribly we deserve to lose.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm kind of just procrastinating right now.

I'm supposed to be writing a dissertation but my brain is really tired so I use this as a break to take my mind off it.

The unfortunate thing is I can't put a whole lot of effort in because well a) I'm tired and b) I'm sick of reading right now.

So, I'm doing things that will hopefully prove interesting to read upon my return.

Apologies for trolling/being dumb.

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 2.02

Oversoul (3)

- TheReverend, Rune, NotAnAxehole

HaVoC (1)

- Elyse

Palkia (1)

- Jake from State Farm

Hostile Intent (1)

- Oversoul

TheReverend (1)

- BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting (4)

- TheDudeAbides, Hostile Intent, Palkia, HaVoC

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-22 23:19:00).

[Rune]

Do I get to keep two votes for the rest of the game?

You saw nothing. ~Nik

[Jake from State Farm]

Rev, you, and Jake are my strongest townreads right now, and I think we should collectively decide where to vote.

You know my opinion

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm here and I'm going to do things.

Got a lot to catch up on though so need some time.

[NotAnAxehole]

I will either lynch Oversoul or the first player to reach L-1.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Quick comment;

That VC is atrocious. No counter-wagon to Oversoul at all and the votes are far too spread out.

Based on this alone Oversoul is prob town (though I do need to ask him about something)

VOTE: Hostile Intent

[BlueBloodedToffee]

504 - This was dumb. How the fuck would a scum flip have cleared those people? Nobody expected that quick hammer and scum could very easily have been bussing. This feels like something scum might say in an effort to look town.

OTOH, you've set yourself up quite nicely for the following Day (knowing full well PB was flipping town, right?) That's how you could afford to 'clear' four players from a scum flip. You knew it wasn't happening.

505 - So HI is brazenly scummy and he has messed your reads up. And this earns him a town read? Can you just walk me through that?

Oversoul and Palkia are probably town. You're either really bad at this game or you're scum. I'm starting to lean the latter.

513 - Why are you thinking about a SK? What makes you think we have one? What makes you think it's Elyse?

517 - No, these pairs are awful. Your last pair is now confirmed town, so, there's that. Then you have Oversoul/Palkia which, again, are likely town. I need to see more from Axe/Havoc before commenting on those.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vote Count 1.07

Prolapsed Brain (7)

- HaVoC, TheDudeAbides, Jake from State Farm, BlueBloodedToffee, Oversoul, Hostile Intent, Palkia

Just gonna go ahead and quote this for the ugliness of this wagon. We should be lynching from it (Hint: Not Oversoul or Palkia)

The kill off the PB wagon likely means scum are hiding on it, wouldn't be surprised to see two scum on the wagon. The scum off the wagon is Reverend.

528 - Rune, why are you willing to blindly sheep Rev? Why are you using his insane reads post as a justification for your vote?

Can you clarify why a) town are really terrible and b) scum are really terrible? What makes you think Havoc OR Hostile is town? Why not both? Why not neither?

529 - Oversoul, why HI?

Also, you never addressed my reasoning for why I thought Rev was scum. Can you do so now?

534 - Explanation of this vote would be great, Axe.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

555 - This assumes Palkia was under pressure. He wasn't. He wasn't even close to being lynched so to suggest he had 'given up' is ludicrous and quite frankly ridiculous.

556 - Rune, you're trying really hard to keep hold of that Oversoul scum read. I don't like this at all. It also seems silly to not read the player currently in the slot, no?

558 - The town were close to a lynch? Where?

So the wagon was 4 RVS votes and 3 quick votes (the only one of those votes with a decent explanation being Oversoul). So, tell me, why did you start the Day voting the only person who had a 'decent explanation' for voting PB?

If the hammer was so bad, and you disagreed with it so much, and you were scum reading Palkia so hard, why did your vote not go there?

Why would I unvote? I was waiting for a VC and was pretty happy where my vote was at that moment in time.

570 - All of this assumes Havoc is scum. Too many people are pushing this angle and I don't like it.

Elyse, can you explain all your town reads please?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm done catching up for now. Will have plenty of time tomorrow to finish it.

Rune's play is driving me up the wall. I felt pretty good that he was town D1 but his D2 play has been absolutely awful.

All of Jake, Rev, Rune and Elyse are pushing the 'PB was counter to Havoc wagon' and 'hammer was so scummy' angle. Scum is among these people. Even more so if Havoc ends up flipping town at any point.

Still reading Oversoul as town. Not sure on Elyse, I don't like her recent reads at all.

I feel quite strongly that Rev is scum. I wanted to lynch from the PB wagon but I'm not so sure now. Will decide after I finish catching up.

[Rune]

Rev, you, and Jake are my strongest townreads right now, and I think we should collectively decide where to vote.

You know my opinion

I think Palkia is a bad lynch for today for reasons I've already explained. I strongly suggest you reconsider, or at least provide your other scumreads as well as a justification for why we should lynch Palkia over the other obvious candidates.

[Rune]

I'm officially townreading TDA. Town can't possibly be this terrible on it's own.

[TheReverend]

I think toffee actually thinks I'm scum. Which suggests he isn't.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Does it?

Are you going to reply to anything?

Same to you, Rune.

[Rune]

I think toffee actually thinks I'm scum. Which suggests he isn't.

I'm actually three quarters convinced you're wrong.

[TheReverend]

Are you going to reply to anything?

I really can't be bothered.

I'm town. There's my reply to everything.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, I'm prob gonna lynch you.

[TheReverend]

Yeah I'm probably not gonna care.

[Rune]

@BBT,

Give me a straight list of questions. Half of the comments you made are obviously dumb.

If the hammer was so bad, and you disagreed with it so much, and you were scum reading Palkia so hard, why did your vote not go there?

1) I did have a vote on Palkia towards the beginning of D2
2) I have since explained multiple times why I now think Palkia is a terrible choice for lynching and possibly town.
3) I have never stated "that hammer was terrible" as you indicated I have.

I could go on, but as I've said... give me a list of questions which can't be easily answered by 1) Reading the damn game 2) Reading the damn game without blatantly misinterpreting it.