Mini 1664: TES4 UPick (Day 4)

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marquis is smarter than u

VOTE: byhd

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also i didn't get the character i wanted, so

someone's gonna have to die

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Bulge is funnier than you

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Dont make me come over there

NICE TRY, MR. AMERICA

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I got mine.

That being said, bins you town?

got your what

and i'm opposite alignments as notty but not marquis

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wrong way but ok

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I've never actually seen a policy lynch happen.

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I've never actually seen a policy lynch happen.

I will teach you today.

How many times do you suggest a policy lynch and how many times does it actually happen?

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I've never actually seen a policy lynch happen.

And i dont care for it.

Bins, can you be serious and answer my question. Im not in the mood for cheeky humor right now

It's a cheeky question.

I'm town.

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whats the read on buldge right now?

You're tempting me to be cheeky.

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VOTE: ABR

Early buses are always good.

Oh yeah, so I hear.
That scumslip though...

Oops, I mean wagons.

Nice cover up, not suspicious at all.

I don't know if scum could be this careless
Pretty sure they'd probably actually read over what they're posting maybe?

if it was a scumslip wouldnt u have voted?

also this father/daughter/little girl talk is freaking me out

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Cute. Do you normally have to be called out before you do anything in a game?

ergh

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thats house wtf

i thought it was wolverine

whos ur daddy

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stop talking about townbloc(k)s kthxbai.

I will be townblocing this game

so

ty goodbye

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VOTE: McMenno

See scumclaim, vote scumclaim.

So, aside from the question of whether McMenno's wording could legitimately be considered "scumclaim", I'm seeing one major problem here.

@Stab

If McMenno were accidentally revealing himself to be Mafia and accidentally revealing ABR to be his partner, why would you vote for McMenno instead of ABR (the larger wagon)? Or, put another way, if you believe your own logic, didn't you want to move as close to lynching one of those players as possible?

Have my babies.

there is seriously enough of this going on in the thread already

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cheeky

i only sort of like it

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3-head hydra is too much for me.

omg

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the 3rd needs to get here so i can actually read him

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bins who are your top scum reads?

zzz.

nothing has really pinged me expect ChoasOmega's opening
lots of things are null
and lots of things are awkward

but i'm forming budding townreads that im ACTUALLY confident in w/o even having to meta yet hallelujah

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tbh i have no idea what to make of the PL force

i've never seen someone seriously want one

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3-head hydra is too much for me.

I actually agree

omg

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this feels off and i can't place my finger on it

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The Bulge has been prodded.

this would be town normally

but i know you've been changing your playstyle to more proactive

but that said you have been lurky

so its just null

SO COME POST

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My lynch pool is mcmenno, ika and hydra.

are these all policy or what

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strangely, i really hope so

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oh goodie

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tbh I can't think of an ABR town-game so I might just be pulling this out of my ass but this whole Policy Lynch thing reminds me of Paradise Lost where ABR-scum planned his playstyle in the Scum PT. I don't remember exactly what he said there but this PL gimmick is reminiscent.

VOTE: ABR for now

"for now"

this is nitpicky but does this mean you havent really read thoroughly ?

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idk putting someone at L-2 "for now" just

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WHAT

i'm serious >.>

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there we go

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so i shouldnt ask you deep, life or death questions rn........

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were is bird

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ABR are you planning on doing something other than policy/defense stuff ?

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i have the most posts and i feel like im ignoring this game

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VOTE: choasomega

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wanting bulge to be scum

idk tho

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i thought chaosomega looked way worse in that exchange

no experience with either of them tho

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will post tomorrow cause im tired

feel so weak without meta...

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semi-vla / out of town

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k i'm back
could join lala wagon

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Based on this nonsense in McMenno's ISO, I'll say he's town.

wait i didnt see this

this is actually similar to what im thinking

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replacedodge

Posting for srs when I'm out of bed

PEDIT - hey there

heyyyheyyy ~

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im being so useless towards my level up move ugh

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bulge when you post pls recap thoughts on ABR ty

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goodie now i actually have to meta someone

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wait i didnt see this

this is actually similar to what im thinking

For the same reasons or anything else?

Have you played with McMenno before?

no you summed it up well

and yes

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House are you scum in this game?

I told you to ask me that in our PT tonight.

ew

as a side note the lack of posting from bulge and doduo is making me sad

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actually the alck of posting in general

im guilty too

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scumclaim

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See scumclaim, vote scumclaim.

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this is getting funny

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fuck im the worst

and im being so bad to my level up move

i think ive said that already

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its so hard to do shit when no one is doing shit

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jesus christ everyone being voted is VLA

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VOTE: venmar

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It seems like Bins' level up move has something to do with posting heaps.

i wish

that would be like

made for me

it's like

the opposite of made for me

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i guess you could just say not made for me

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we should just lynch someone not trying to do something
get a flip
so people can have something to talk about


because this is getting nowhere

sadly all the wagons are on people not doing anything

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some of you are opting for lynching lurkers, which is never a good idea

there's a difference between lurkers and people posting sometimes and yet still not saying anything

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my reasons of not reacting to anything are as good as everyone elses but at least there are still some of us trying

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And then learn to pick them out of the crowd, yeah? *HINT* HINT* CHAOSOMEGA *HINT* *HINT*

IM SORRY I WAS ON CHAOS OMEGA BUT THERE ARE TO MANY


**ACTIVE LURKERS**

who didn't wanna vote him

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jesus christ can i just be like

"says you"

to all your posts

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Like seriously, is this game full of idio-

Oh wait.

also you might not wanna talk like that or i will stop posting

and this game will be more dead

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Well i'm here now and i'm going to try and lynch him now.

What are you going to do now?

no i'll gladly switch back to chaos but now youre starting to piss me off

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Hah

You're quite melodramatic

Over nothing

venmar is only reacting to these things too and nothing else <_<

like chaosomega > went on venmar > venmar got angsty

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doduo? that was their main reason for voting.

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actually burn your houses read are pretty swell

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for the most part

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lala ur starting to bug me :[ idk i ACTUALLY think i need to force myself to meta you to see if this lololol behaviour is normal

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bug me

bug me in a "u might be pinging me"
sort of way

youre pretty cool
if youre town

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oh freaking jee

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VOTE: stab

lala prob isnt scum with that

lala why stab tho?

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dw ur not alone!!! high five!!

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I'm going to flip town. Please don't townread Lalaladucks tomorrow for this. Yes, we would expect scum-Ducks to use the power to derail a scumbuddy's wagon rather than just spite me, but it's complete WIFOM to speculate whether she would do it for towncred anyways.

:/

yeah you're probably right

but idk feels really.. random

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ugh i'll do this when i'm not tired

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if youre town i probably wont townread her for it

but i wont scumread her

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stab read on Doduo and Bulge?

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UNVOTE:

actually I'm gonna wait

not a clear head rn

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Lala probably already used her main power too. You are still a strong role. :[ I don't see why you didn't fight it.

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All gladiators I've seen on this site have been town. If you want to challenge my point, show me a scum gladiator.

scum gladiator

i was scum gladiator i am taking the claim for a grain ofsalt, after all its a upick

Please don't pop in, say this and then nothing else

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Please no lolwagon when I'm at school because my power will eat u

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Lala u put us in quite the predicament
I'm not sure I agree with what u did at all

Venmar was a good wagon, was it not??

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ouran highschool

Notty and I are twinning >:)

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Now we don't get an analyzable wagon tomorrow.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS TVT

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Yeah, if no lynch is an option I'm down to do that.

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If not, yeah, Stab you're still a strong role. Lala isn't.

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Well, maybe I'm wrong. But she's used part of it.

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VOTE: lala

Stab, I still want your reads.

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Also, let Stab hammer if lala is lynched

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albert youre still being creepy

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yeah but i sort of care because its making me uncomfortable

you shouldnt talk to someone that way lmao

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the selfvote is town :[

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both of you are playing with a gal's heart

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That was a silly move by lala.

this has been said enough times.

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Stab lives and he's a Doc. I think that's more important.

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***A Doc that scum can't night kill either

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man was chaos even alive during that whole shabang

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RIP doduo townbloc will miss u

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im disapoint so far....

ABR?

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notmarquis

Bleh. That kill doesn't really point to anyone. And fuck, lalala screwed up our Day 1 wagon analysis. So we're back where we started, Day 2 with nothing to look at.

i dont really wanna NKA

they weren't doing much

seems just like a null kill

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pushed venmar.

not going to wifom that

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stab/dier/abr

they can all die

thats my poe pool right now

do you have a townread on ven then?

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bulge lets get yuor reads out!!

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HEY

VOTE: VENMAR

IT'S NOT MY FAULT I THINK OF SOMETHING AFTER I POST OK

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that is my mind process

sry

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mind process wtf

**thought process

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i would expect scum bulge to have pinged me by now but it hasnt yet

im kind of mad at him for not doing anything and now makign excuses to not do anything...

its really hard to read him when he doesnt post unless he has too

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honestly im ok with people pressuring him more

not gonna fight it

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yes

i have mob rank up as well

im guessing because im a mob creature

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Normally I wouldn't like questions like this, but at least it is getting people to post (in attempts of).

Bins: Who in this game would you least want to be scum with?

100% Bulge. Freak out about it all the time. I always read Bulge strongly. I've never been wrong when I put my foot down about it. Making me scum with him (has happened) would put me in the impossible situation where I would have to fake an incorrect read on him.

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House is bugging meeeee.

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Seriously, ABR, this is getting annoying. I don't have a read on you and if I don't by... you know... today... <_<

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That's really freaking weird that you don't have scumreads especially when there's so many people with strong reads this game that they're throwing around.

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venmar & ABR

you know I'm going to be really freaking disappointed if either of these two are town

i was expecting really good play from the both but all i see is antitown antitown that i can't let people get away w/


bulge pls come post

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i feel like Deir analyzing the Ducks wagon when everyone else isnt is probably good tho

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well youre not really pushing it

youre sitting here going "herp derp vote ika herp policy"

but i like ika and im not going to vote him ON POLICY and im not scumreading him

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I honestly don't care who you vote at this moment because I'm trying to work things out myself but I'd rather you'd vote and have more reasons than a freaking D2 policy lynch that doesn't serve a purpose.

If you have legit reasons to believe Ika is scum, then fine. But other than that you're being completely useless.

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Bins, what do you think?

Going to throw another question back at you.

Do you think it's more likely that this is scum v. town or town v. town?

Honestly, I can see that being a possibility. But I'm more worried about one of them being scum in the first place .. if that makes sense.

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I am townreading Ika tho.

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Do you think he's scum

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quick

say its TvT

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i agree.. i didn't realize how bad bulge's post looks in the context that stab might be scum

ofc i dont really like association tells on someone who hasn't flipped yet ,_,

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@Bins

Look at the last line, though! It's not really an associative tell anymore. I'll admit that I've been fairly fixated on Stab in this game but, even if Stab is Town, that logic by Bulge is still strange. You even pointed it out at the time:

Now we don't get an analyzable wagon tomorrow.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS TVT

>.> ok thats a really good point

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whoa the emotes worked



im just
has venmar even done anything this game
has bulge even done anything this game
has ABR/ika focused on anything but themselves this game

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house if you have the time i'd love to hear your read on bulge

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I'm going to vote ABR or Bulge in my next post. Bulge has one post to convince me. ABR has no chance.

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WAT

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oh wait I said in my next

ok in my next post after Bulge posts

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Your predecessor has claimed.

I suggest you confirm that claim right now by claiming.

No looking~

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It's really stupid of you to say that.

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And an insult to Dier. Who tried to make something to comment on.

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And an insult to Dier. Who tried to make something to comment on.

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VOTE: THE BULGE

hurt tag everyone else

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As does everyone.

We have one day. I don't really like how Persivul wants to jump on all the lurkers. But, I can't really blame him either. I'm going to disappointed no matter who is town this game.

I am okay with lynching Venmar. Bulge, I'm disappointing putting my foot down on. I really don't like this because he didn't even give me the chance to read him. And ABR, god, I don't even fucking know. Like.

And man, at least Chaos did try.

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btw that was L-1.

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bulge I would ask for a readslist but

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I find it peculiar that your PR is coincidentally complementary to the action that you are skilled in.

That said,

I want to question Bins with regard to her Bulge misread.

I didn't want a hammer, I wanted to fucking pressure him into saying something so I could finally get a read on him. I'm really good at reading Bulge but I can't do it when he isn't saying anything at all.

I didn't even want to be on the wagon at all... fucked up my night action because I lost my power because of it.

Will look at the rest of this later. Late few days of school this week.

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I'm actually the cop. I need level 2 to cop. I investigated House last night.

Why didn't you investigate

Ika >_>
or are you that sure.

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I'm sort of okay with massclaiming. Well, partial claiming...

I don't want to ruin the only cool part of my role.

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I want to lynch ABR/Venmar. I take partial blame for letting them get this far into the game.

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We should also claim whether or not an action effected us or not.

Because last night I got told I was targeted w/ a specific action.

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We should also claim whether or not an action effected us or not.

Because last night I got told I was targeted w/ a specific action.

It's not wise to tell us this until your turn for the massclaim :<

I'm fairly certain whoever targeted me is town.

I don't know who it is, but once they claim it's going to +10 to my townread on them.

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I have no preference on when I claim. Like I said, my role is very similar to Doduo's. I'm guessing there are multiple roles that work similarly. My role affects levels - I'm not going to be able to catch anyone in a lie with that.

I would like to see Venmar/ABR-slot claim first just because they are scummiest in my eyes. Maybe McMenno, because he's disappeared.

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Sorry, I'm getting all serious because my earlier fluff posting is pissing me off as I reread the earlier Day 1 stuff.

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jfc if this is real you fucked up my night action

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i'm not that mad

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I thought Bitmap's avi was a robot on mobile when I'm tired

ok
i'm going off memory here

I'm an atronach and I level w/ mob level up.
level 1 I do nothing (i was never level 1 anyways because I was always on the wagon except yesterday)

level 2 I level up my target by one level
I used it on Bulge when I was level 2 because I thought he was PR telling hard
Bulge scum and PR are very similar
He was the safest person to use it on then

level 3 I make the strength of someone's level up move "double" for next Day/Night Phase
I used it on fucking BYHD
but >.> apparently he didn't have a level up move anyway
i should have saved it
i level back down to 2 as soon as i use it
and lose it
but i thought it'd be best if I used it ASAP

so last night
used my thingy again (level up)
on BYHD
hoping to overlevel him
but yeah

i should mention that when i used my thing on BYHD (both times) it resolved immediately
i got a PM saying that
"your action was resolved immediately"
so i'm guessing i was targetted w/ something like that

ur turn bb

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i think we're probably in LYLO

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wait Deir got redirected?

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Or is there another person w/ the same ability

we shall wait and seeeeeeeeeeeeee

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yeah but Deir targeted BYHD

yet I got PMd about my actions being instant

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the way BYHD snapped at me when I hinted at that sort of bugs me because maybe they got a PM too <_<

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Ay, I'm prodded too. Probably the first time I've actually forgot about a game.

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Technically, isn't Persivul's action still successful?

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Basically:

Does "failed" mean blocked or just didn't have an effect?

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Oooooooooooooooooooooooh.

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At this moment:

People I'm not comfortable lynching: Deirfire, Persivul (mostly because of the early claim, and we *might* [probably] are in LYLO)
People I would sigh and lynch: ika
What the fuck does Shearoadfsdfdsagath mean: McMenno
Leftovers: ChaosOmega, Bitmap

I don't know if I want to speculate if scum had fakeclaims. But maybe we should at this point.

Roles in this game would be REALLY hard to fabricate.

ChaosOmega has a role that could be town or scum. I'm still slightly confused about Bitmap's.
But then again... if scum were given fakeclaims... this makes it a lot harder.

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So game over unless you're scum?

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This is fucking Bastard ++ all over again.

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GiF, can we get a VC w/ the "With ___ alive, it's ___ to lynch"?

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jfc I'll answer it. Because he's Level 1.

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I don't like answering other people's questions but it should be pretty open there.

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You know scum won't fucking No Lynch either.

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This game should be called if there are 3 scum, you're town, and it's 4 to lynch/no lynch.

Bastard++ deja vu.

I'm starting to doubt you're town then.

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You know scum won't fucking No Lynch either.

Why so?

Because they can win.

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Or, well, they can't lose.

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Meh, I guess we could stall the day.

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So what do you think.

Stall or try to lynch someone.

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V/LA for 3 days. Going to a friend's cottage & doing stupid shit. Won't have internet.

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I got a PM from the Mod.

I really thought the person that targeted me was town but that means their lying. Or Deir got redirected.

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I got a PM from the mod saying "Your action was resolved immediately."

I have no idea how to explain it. You're right.

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Ika, what the fuck.

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And this wasn't just N2. It was N2 and N3.

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I have no idea how this makes me scum. I just got a PM.

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You're really trying too hard to find a slip here but there isn't one.

I don't think it was you that gave me the notification. I think it was Deir's role and he got redirected to me. It's a stretch but I don't know why Deir would lie. There is a role out there that wasn't claimed and I have PROOF OF IT.

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Ika and Chaos are almost definitely scum now w/ their reaction to this. Scum just needed to find a slip. I'm literally just explaining a PM I explained really early on...

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So then what Chaos? What did I lie about? What's my actual role? What did I need to claim that PM for? Really?

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WHY WOULD I MAKE UP A PM
BASICALLY
IF IT WOULD CAUSE ME THIS MUCH TROUBLE

jfc I don't know why I'm trying to convince you.

I honestly think BYHD also got a PM. They hinted at it when I mentioned it. I think there is also a chance that there's the exact same role as Deir's. BYHD also got notified that Deir had targeted them and that their action had been resolved immediately.

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My role doesn't say anything about being loud

IT WASN'T YOUR ROLE THAT CAUSED THE PM PROBABLY.
IT WASN'T MY ROLE.

IT WAS ANOTHER ROLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

THE PM SAID NOTHING ABOUT A TRACK.
IT SAID "ACTION RESOLVED IMMEDIATELY."

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Yes.

That and Level Up notifications.

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I had asked the mod if powers affecting levels would resolve immediately and he answered that my Level Up power would resolve dead last during the night. Therefore, something manipulated it.

Like Deirfire's role. Well, exactly Deirfire's role.

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During the day I can target a player to make their night action take priority over all other actions.

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That or
well

1) Another one exists and wasn't claimed.
2) He was redirected.

I just don't understand why he would lie when I claimed before him that I had received that PM.

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We should also claim whether or not an action effected us or not.

Because last night I got told I was targeted w/ a specific action.

It's not wise to tell us this until your turn for the massclaim :<

This was almost understanding and it still bugs me.

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Okay, I'm comfortable voting Ika.
Then Bitmap.
Then Chaos. But actually, I think Chaos backing off made me less confident that he's scum.

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God, no lynching doesn't even work, does it? Because if there are 3 scum we're fucked anyways.

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bins my vote has nothign to do with the "oh i got feedback" that your proclaimign

It has to do with the fact you're "bored"? Sell me on this, really.

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I'm not bored w/ this game.

And it's not not manly of me to want to actually care about who I vote.

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Wanna explain why you put me at L-2

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Bitmap wanna explain that you directed BYHD to me because that would save a whole lot of pain

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VOTE: Ika

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I'm in da USA

V/LA but only 2 days

~o~

Let's kill ika

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Actually, I suppose lynching Bitmap would be the best idea here.

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Actually, I suppose lynching Bitmap would be the best idea here.

What's your case on me?

We can't lynch anyone else unless you're scum and this is LYLO.

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Bins is flailing about at any target. She's a reasonable lynch. Put a vote on her Bitmap.

I've picked three.

Tbh you just seem desperate to move your vote to me.

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I HAVE 5 MINUTES

I'm 5 hours from home

I'm desperate for a vote because this might be LYLO
hence Bitmap theory

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Actually
Fuck

Bitmap probably looks the most town to me

But not lynching him
Is praying NK doesn't work
And
Praying it's 2 scum

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Dude.


We're not going to get a town driven lynch if Bitmap is town.
Basically, we can only lynch town today if Bitmap is town.

We have 3 TOWN VOTES if Bitmap is town.

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IF WE GET A LYNCH TODAY
AND BITMAP IS TOWN
IT WILL BE ON TOWN

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We no lynch.

Or lynch Bitmap.

All our votes rn are basically "TAKE THIS VOTE THAT MEANS NOTHING."