Mini 1668 - Mafia in Bremen - Game Over!

Oversoul · Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:44 am

In post 1373, TheReverend wrote:It's worth noting that the claimed bodyguard isn't the one saying we should wait for the claimed gs situation to be resolved before we lynch.

I've been saying that all day? I don't understand what you mean here.

Oversoul · Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:45 am

I mean if anything Palkia says is to be trusted, then I can't protect him tonight anyway because he is macho. My protect would likely go somewhere else because of that.

TheReverend · Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:50 am

I'm just having a paranoid moment.

It's just, from bg pov, you should see me state intent, and you should be thinking whoah, hold your horses. At least, that's what I'd be thinking if I were bg in this spot.

TheReverend · Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:50 am

In post 1376, Oversoul wrote:then I can't protect him tonight anyway because he is macho.

I didn't see him say this.

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:51 am

And a dead gunsmith secures an Elyse!scum lynch, too.

I'm not claiming, chief. If I did it'd be VT... but I'm not claiming.

Oversoul · Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:53 am

Correct scumplay here would be to *not* kill Palkia or Elyse if Elyse is scum, and definitely if Elyse is town. Saves them mislynches for later if this whole ordeal is a ruse.

TheReverend · Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:13 am

In post 783, Nikanor wrote:
Vote Count 2.03

HaVoC (3)
- Elyse, Rune, NotAnAxehole

Rune (3)
- TheReverend, BlueBloodedToffee, Hostile Intent

Palkia (1)
- Jake from State Farm

Hostile Intent (1)
- Oversoul

Not Voting (3)
- TheDudeAbides, Palkia, HaVoC

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-22 23:19:00).

Palkia has been prodded.

This is looking critical to me.

Here, confscum is in trouble, and rune is the counterwagon.

It looks a lot to me based on this that rune is town (which I already strongly suspected), and hostile is indeed scum.

If she's not then idk what the fuck is going on with the wagons.

I'm also starting to think jake is scum. Through d2, his vote avoids havoc/jeanne until it becomes a lost cause.

hostile and jake make a lot of sense based on the d2 vote counts.

Let's have a glance at d1.

Oversoul · Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:15 am

Is Rev coming around to a Jake scum read? Hallelujah.

Rune · Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:17 am

I have no problem with a Jake scum read. But I have a problem with anyone suggesting Jake and Elyse are scum together. But yeah,I'm perfectly happy with a hostile lynch any time and oversoul is playing more and more town.

Oversoul · Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:19 am

Just wait for Palkia to swoop in.

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:20 am

Its also possible that Rune is also scum if you're town, Rev. You/BBT may have built a counterwagon completely by accident.

TheReverend · Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:20 am

In post 404, Nikanor wrote:Vote Count 1.06
HaVoC (5) - RadiantCowbells, Palkia, Elyse, Hostile Intent, Rune
Prolapsed Brain (4) - HaVoC, TheDudeAbides, Jake from State Farm, BlueBloodedToffee
Rune (3) - TheReverend, Arceus, Prolapsed Brain

In post 525, Nikanor wrote:Prolapsed Brain (7) - HaVoC, TheDudeAbides, Jake from State Farm, BlueBloodedToffee, Oversoul, Hostile Intent, Palkia
HaVoC (4) - RadiantCowbells, Elyse, Rune, Prolapsed Brain

HI doesn't look good here either, she manages to shift her vote from confscum to conftown to seal the mislynch.

I'm utterly sold. I was right with my meta and wrong to dish out town points for refusing to claim.

pedit - yes I'm waiting. You should unvote to deprive HI of the self hammer. Quickly now oversoul.

TheReverend · Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:21 am

In post 1385, Hostile Intent wrote:Its also possible that Rune is also scum if you're town, Rev. You/BBT may have built a counterwagon completely by accident.

Rune isn't scum. He talks like town, acts like town, votes like town, and gets wagonned when scum is in trouble. The fact you're trying to make me paranoid about him is just further evidence that you're scum.

Oversoul · Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:21 am

UNVOTE:
She isn't going to self hammer

TheReverend · Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:23 am

In post 1383, Rune wrote:I have no problem with a Jake scum read. But I have a problem with anyone suggesting Jake and Elyse are scum together. But yeah,I'm perfectly happy with a hostile lynch any time and oversoul is playing more and more town.

Nah it's jake and hostile.

And yes, I'm coming round to jake. I actually took a look at the wagons and it's pretty obvious.

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:26 am

Fucking plebeians. I've had at least three opportunities to self-hammer and haven't. Two of which were before you "found" Jake. Your paranoia is not becoming of you.

Oversoul · Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:27 am

VOTE: HI
If you are town PR, you deserve this hammer.

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:28 am

Thank you, I appreciate that.

Now let's not muddle the game further, hm?

Oversoul · Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:31 am

Who do you think is scum HI?

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:33 am

The last few pages have actually persuaded me away from Elyse. So I'm looking at Saint and now Jake with Rune still as the outlier.

TheReverend · Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:35 am

Why aren't I scummy from you pov HI? I mean if you're town, then you can see a dead townie and you, voting for the cw to scum... shoulnd't that ping that fuck out of your scumdar?

Rune · Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:39 am

So now everyone thinks palkia is just a troll? Jake Hi would imply this. I want this to be very clear.

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:45 am

In post 1395, TheReverend wrote:Why aren't I scummy from you pov HI? I mean if you're town, then you can see a dead townie and you, voting for the cw to scum... shoulnd't that ping that fuck out of your scumdar?

Well, I was playing then, and you/BBT raised very interesting points about Rune at the time. That's why my sheep vote is there. Again, we didn't know we were building a counterwagon and, without further evidence, we can't know for sure that we didn't have two scum wagons going simultaneously. You and I play two very different games. I'm not nearly as paranoid as you are and I've been given no inclination to suspect you're not town. If Rune ends up flipping town, then yeah you look fucking horrible. But my nagging suspicion of Rune implies to me that you/BBT accidentally took suspicion from one poor scum player and put it on a much better scum player. That's all.

Oversoul · Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 6:02 am

In post 1396, Rune wrote:So now everyone thinks palkia is just a troll? Jake Hi would imply this. I want this to be very clear.

If this guilty on Elyse is not a guilty, then yes.
Probably would wagon him with extreme prejudice if that came back too.

Hostile Intent · Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:01 am

I really didn't want to do this, but we're waiting for dumb shit to happen when we shouldn't be.

UNVOTE: Elyse
VOTE: Hostile

I'm a Vengeful Townie. For the last several posts I've been talking about who I'm going to shoot.

That's likely Saint, Jake, or Rune right now.

I tried asking for pointers but everybody p much ignored the question.

This should legitimize Palkia's claim, perhaps?

But Elyse situation can be waxed over later.

I'm using my shot. But we need to hit scum.

Proceed.