New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

Titus · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 4:54 am

Sorry, Ozgin means the guy who slipped. Ozgin was not in that game.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:00 am

I'm not pretending that this is an absolute scenario in which Ozgin is 100%conftown or anything. I don't even feel particularly strong about my townread there.
I just don't put much stock in the Citizenstuff being alignment indicative in the same way you are and it's influencing my perception of him different I guess.

dragonspawn · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:01 am

In post 651, Egg wrote:Ok Skybird. You were calling him town at first but that's fair. I'm satisfied for now.

Silverwolf, ok. In your case, it's not really an issue unless Ozgin flips scum and dragonspawn turns out to not be his buddy.

ozgin is not my buddy. I just am not impressed with the case.

taly and wolf had some lengthier posts I need to respond to from a better computer.

Titus · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:01 am

*shrug* I just feel it's more of the same repeating but I am going to park here to avoid history repeating itself.

dragonspawn · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:07 am

In post 681, Titus wrote:Add Boonskiies to the would lynch pile.

then you aren't paying attention.

dragonspawn · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:10 am

In post 694, Varsoon wrote:
In post 691, House wrote:I'm in a neighborhood called Central Windgale with dragonspawn (and some others), and I want him dead so I can participate in it, please.

kthx.

This is what I figured.
I'm also in a neighborhood and had assumed there were likely other hoods.
I also have the theory that if there's multiple hoods then there's likely at least one rep from a scumteam in each.
I was unsure if Dragon was being awkward about having a neighborhood or a masonry, but it seemed more like a neighborhood (especially since he used the word neighborhood earlier).

btw egg - told you wake loves hoods.

Bookitty · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:11 am

Yes, I get it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ozgin

And before someone asks, no, I'm not going to say what it is that I get.

dragonspawn · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:16 am

In post 703, House wrote:Oh screw it.

I'm a JoAT

1x Gunsmith
1x Tracker
1x Bodyguard

And I want dragonspawn killified so I can work with my neighbors on where to use my abilities.

yeah that's about as believe as monkeys coming out of my butt

why not claim sorcerer supreme or whatever last time?

Titus · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:22 am

In post 781, Bookitty wrote:Yes, I get it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ozgin

And before someone asks, no, I'm not going to say what it is that I get.

*hugs* that's what you get.

Bookitty · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:22 am

<3 Titus

dragonspawn · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:43 am

In post 720, RadiantCowbells wrote:This is a long shot but Dragon, can you confirm or deny his claim about being a part of a neighbourhood?

houses claim of a neighborhood.

totally true. In fact he fake claimed mass murderer and said he wanted almost all of us dead in one of his first hood posts.

dragonspawn · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:44 am

In post 721, House wrote:
In post 717, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 691, House wrote:I'm in a neighborhood called Central Windgale with dragonspawn (and some others), and I want him dead so I can participate in it, please.

kthx.

Does he have to be dead for you to participate in it? if so, that is you just wanting what you want, and not actually wanting scum lynched. If not, then why does it matter if he's in it?

Yes he has to be dead for me to participate in it. Because it's not worth having scum in the hood to try to work out the best use of my abilities.

I refuse to use any night actions until he's dead.

Period.

cause you don't have any

dragonspawn · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:46 am

In post 729, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm actually kinda with you on boon scum.

But I'm not a known successful reader of Boonskiies.

pedit: how generous of the mod.

I'll make it easier for you.

he is town

dragonspawn · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:47 am

In post 731, House wrote:VOTE: Bookitty

Here's a vote switch to piss off town.

didn't like her cookies?

Egg · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:52 am

In post 777, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 651, Egg wrote:Ok Skybird. You were calling him town at first but that's fair. I'm satisfied for now.

Silverwolf, ok. In your case, it's not really an issue unless Ozgin flips scum and dragonspawn turns out to not be his buddy.

ozgin is not my buddy. I just am not impressed with the case.

taly and wolf had some lengthier posts I need to respond to from a better computer.

Yeah I get that now. I've seen the light.

dragonspawn · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 6:23 am

Taly can't address your full post but you mentioned not seeing my town game. I thought we played a newbie game together where I was town. Been a while and I don't remember the exact game

dragonspawn · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:20 am

In post 762, Cheetory6 wrote:Someone talk at me about if Sky's tone is usually like this as either alignment.

in my opinion sky is a hard read no matter what alignment she is. If anything she is probably slightly lurkier as scum but it's not an easy read regardless

House · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:24 am

VOTE: Ozgin

I can't vote Bookitty. I just.. can't.

House · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:26 am

In post 785, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 720, RadiantCowbells wrote:This is a long shot but Dragon, can you confirm or deny his claim about being a part of a neighbourhood?

houses claim of a neighborhood.

totally true. In fact he fake claimed mass murderer and said he wanted almost all of us dead in one of his first hood posts.

Sure did!

House · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:29 am

In post 786, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 721, House wrote:
In post 717, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 691, House wrote:I'm in a neighborhood called Central Windgale with dragonspawn (and some others), and I want him dead so I can participate in it, please.

kthx.

Does he have to be dead for you to participate in it? if so, that is you just wanting what you want, and not actually wanting scum lynched. If not, then why does it matter if he's in it?

Yes he has to be dead for me to participate in it. Because it's not worth having scum in the hood to try to work out the best use of my abilities.

I refuse to use any night actions until he's dead.

Period.

cause you don't have any

Where is the pro-town motivation in making this post? If I don't, I'm clearly attempting to draw the NK. You're not a simpleton, you know that.

Lynch this shit with fire, people.

VOTE: dragonspawn

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:56 am

They call him scumkin
dragonspawn

dragonspawn · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:02 am

To point out you're lying.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:03 am

FUS RO DAH

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:20 am

I'm going to spit so much fire that I'm going to spawn you a 1-mana minion and be called a hungry dragon.

dragonspawn · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:23 am

In post 641, Taly wrote:

In post 621, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 612, Taly wrote:
In post 600, Titus wrote:Observation point. People resisted Ozgin the Obvscum because it was too early to get a large wagon. Yet Dragonspawn has a wagon out of nowhere that is larger.

Noted. Total shit.

Taly, I'm looking at you in particular.

If you think that is the true essence of why I changed my vote then you are wrong. Please re-read my post where I switch. Plus, the Ozgin and Dragon wagons are both at the same amount. Stop treating as if everything other than your tunnel is worth shit. I have yet to be in a fucking situation where hard-pushing someones wagon in confidence leads to helpful things in town - especially in D1, and the idea that that is mostly all you've done so far, from aside of trying to get people to go on your wagon and putting down other alternatives that are just as valid - really does not make your push and reasoning come much from a town perspective.

Yeah, I can see that your push on Ozgin can be from genuine belief - but you aren't even 100% sure that Ozgin is scum either, and frankly, I really don't know IF you have any OTHER scum reads. I don't know what your thought process is Titus.

*Takes Deep Breath*
OK, got that out of my system. <3

Also. If you read my post, you would know - that I may or may not stay off the Ozgin wagon for good, so I don't know why you're looking at me when I'm sticking to my own formed judgments. Hell, I'm going to ISO Dragon and Ozgin so I may just go back to my vote. Is that a big deal?

595

Well for one, posts like 594 seem a bit off-handed. Not sure what you were referring to, nor meaning.

It is late where I am, tomorrow - I'm most likely going to ISO both you and Ozgin to settle my reads, I'll give my thoughts on your posts - why I think some seem really weird, and then I'll make my decision on the wagons. I may or may not change.

So far, you haven't done much to defend yourself from your wagon Dragon, which makes me a bit curious, versus Ozgin, all he's done is react to people suspecting him, and then go after Varsoon in particular. Off face-value, you guys don't seem to be towny.

I haven't done much to defend myself? How can you claim that? I've responded to every question about me that I've seen. I haven't shied away from anything. And I am denying that I am scum. What the heck do you consider defending myself?

Not only have I been defending myself, I've been asking questions and trying to figure people out.

Multiple times I've asked you to show me where I've been fake. All you pointed to was the posts where I mistakenly thought Titus post was yours. When I realized the mistake I corrected myself.

Tell me, am I this aggressive as scum? Why the heck would I be doing anything to draw attention to myself in a large game?

Actually, it's the fact that I don't perceive you as very aggressive that makes me think you haven't done much to defend yourself.

A wagon on you is growing, and a lot of your game so far is mostly asking questions and figuring people out, there hasn't been a lot of judgments, and some of your posts like : 594 and 616 - seem contrived because it really does not give info and leaves intentional room for thinking. 558 and 560 seem like small notes you're making, you don't expand on them - and you don't do much in response to people suspecting you. I don't know where you're coming from on 534

This isn't all of the posts, but these are just small things that are pinging. Also I never explicitly said you were fake because of your mistake, but since I haven't gotten a huge town sense from you so far, it feels a little weird.

I don't know, I've never seen you in a towny position before and from what I'm seeing, I'm feeling as though there are a few things in your posts that are a bit suspicious.

Also, you never answered my questions in 548

I answered 548 in 551.

I don't know what kind of aggression you are expecting from me or why I need to be aggressive to defend myself.

As for the never playing town with me I found the game we played together. You replaced out early on.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=58673

I had forgotten you were the scum I picked out in rvs. So I suppose you wouldn't be as familiar with my town game.

And I am leaving room for lots of thinking. It seems foolish to not do so in a large game on day one.