Mini 1665: Papers, Please Mafia (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Vote Count 4.03

Dinare (2) - PeaceBringer, elusive
elusive (1) - Untrod Tripod
PeaceBringer (1) - Dinare
Untrod Tripod (1) - ChaosOmega

Not Voting (2) - Mac, Ankamius

With 7 alive, it will take 4 to lynch.

The deadline is Thursday, June 4, 2015, at 10:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-06-04 22:00:00).

Moderator Comments

Mac is V/LA until June 1.

[Ankamius]

Yours

[Untrod Tripod]

sorry, my sister got married last weekend and I was at the Commune after that

don't really see a reason to move my vote, especially with both PB and elusive going "OH, I GUESS MAYBE UT" after I expressed suspicion of them

wouldn't be super shocked if that was just the scumteam right there

[ChaosOmega]

sorry, my sister got married last weekend and I was at the Commune after that

don't really see a reason to move my vote, especially with both PB and elusive going "OH, I GUESS MAYBE UT" after I expressed suspicion of them

wouldn't be super shocked if that was just the scumteam right there

This is a fair point in regards to elusive.

So Untrod Tripod, looks pretty good in ISO, he did point out Wrong Song early on. (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6798631)

elusive and PB are my scumreads

PB was a scumread earlier in the game and hasn't really done much to alter my opinion (although Oto flipping town mitigated it a touch), and I thought elusive had some *really* awkward interactions with WrongSong before WS even flipped, so

fuck it

vote: elusive

I also find Untrod Tripod really bizarre, so WS tried to push my lynch through some terrible logic but he didn't point her out he pointed both of us out as "scum" and he could have been bussing.

But still Dinare today then if that doesn't solve it UT.

You said before you liked UT going through his iso, but now it reads as really bizarre?

[PeaceBringer]

UT you were long suspected by me regardless of whatever you may or may not of said about me...

[Mac]

i've had a super shit day so not sure i'm in the mood for mafia. if i decide not too, i'll be back tomorrow night

[Untrod Tripod]

my god that was an incredibly awkward way of saying that PB

[Untrod Tripod]

additionally that doesn't change a whole lot about your response, but as CO said it's worse for elusive

[elusive]

In ISO you look decent although barely here but in terms of votes and your attempt to push me with Wrong Song looks bad. It may be that your original FOS of WS was an attempt to actually get me mislynched. In fact, the whole "scum pt" things looks pretty bad in itself.

Nothing's worse for me because I'm town. Maybe you forgot what happened early this game but I have a good memory. You're barely pushing anyone or doing anything really other then lurking. I tried to get town off a mislynch, succeeded once and then couldn't prevent it the second time.

Try harder, pointing at me is what scum tried to do and failed epiclly.

[elusive]

This is not related to the game at all but wth is commune? Is it like "commune" as in the isolated societies where stuff happens or code for something else? Every time someone on this site mentions the words I have the weirdest thoughts in my head..

[elusive]

The VCs show WS parked on PB for the first four vote counts. It just seems very odd that scum would do that right off the bat. Then look at WS's other votes, they are on Kop for a duration and what I think are all town. So the votes on PB at game start don't make sense.

All of the VCs so far in one place.

If you need to separate them out, quote and then cut and paste the spoiler. I tried to change the names to the current players and also color code but if there's an error, oops.

I'm going to be VLA but will check in on my phone.

Spoiler:

VOTE COUNT 1.01
Untrod Tripod (3) - Ankamius,

Quilford, xRECKONERx

PeaceBringer (2) -

Wrong Song

, Mac
Dinare (1) -

hitogoroshi

Quilford

(1) - Dinare

Wrong Song

(1) - ChaosOmega

xRECKONERx

(1) - Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (4) -

elusive, Kop

,

Otolia

, PeaceBringer

~

VOTE COUNT 1.02
Untrod Tripod (3) - Ankamius,

xRECKONERx, Quilford

Otolia

(2) -

hitogoroshi

, PeaceBringer
PeaceBringer (2) -

Wrong Song

, Mac

Wrong Song

(2) - ChaosOmega,

Kop

Quilford

(1) - Dinare

xRECKONERx

(1) - Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (2) -

elusive, Otolia

~

VOTE COUNT 1.03

Otolia

(3) -

hitogoroshi

, PeaceBringer,

xRECKONERx

Quilford

(3) - Dinare, Untrod Tripod,

elusive

PeaceBringer (2) -

Wrong Song

, Mac
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Wrong Song

(2) - ChaosOmega,

Kop

Not Voting (1) -

Otolia

~

VOTE COUNT 1.04

Otolia

(4) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx,

Mac, Untrod Tripod

Quilford

(3) - Dinare,

elusive

, PeaceBringer
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Wrong Song

(2) - ChaosOmega,

Kop

hitogoroshi

(1) -

Otolia

PeaceBringer (1) -

Wrong Song

~

VOTE COUNT 1.05

Otolia

(5) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx

, Mac, Untrod Tripod, Dinare

Quilford

(2) -

elusive,

PeaceBringer
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Mac (1) -

Kop

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

Kop

(1) -

Wrong Song

Wrong Song

(1) - ChaosOmega

~

VOTE COUNT 1.06

Otolia

(4) -

xRECKONERx

, Mac, Untrod Tripod, Dinare

Kop

(2) -

Wrong Song

,

hitogoroshi

Quilford

(2) -

elusive

, PeaceBringer
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Mac (1) -

Kop

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

Wrong Song

(1) - ChaosOmega

~


VOTE COUNT 1.07

Otolia

(4) -

xRECKONERx

, Mac, Untrod Tripod, Dinare

Kop

(2) -

Wrong Song

,

hitogoroshi

Quilford

(2) -

elusive

, PeaceBringer
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Mac (1) -

Kop

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

Wrong Song

(1) - ChaosOmega

~

VOTE COUNT 1.08

Otolia

(5) -

xRECKONERx

, Mac, Untrod Tripod, Dinare, PeaceBringer

Kop

(2) -

Wrong Song

,

hitogoroshi

Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Mac (1) -

Kop

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

Quilford

(1) -

elusive

Wrong Song

(1) - ChaosOmega

~

VOTE COUNT 1.09

Otolia

(5) -

xRECKONERx

, Mac, Untrod Tripod, Dinare, PeaceBringer

Kop

(2) -

Wrong Song

,

hitogoroshi

Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

PeaceBringer (1) -

elusive

Wrong Song

(1) - ChaosOmega

Not Voting (1) -

Kop

~


VOTE COUNT 1.10

Otolia

(5) -

xRECKONERx

, Untrod Tripod, Dinare, PeaceBringer, ChaosOmega

Kop

(3) -

Wrong Song

, Mac,

hitogoroshi

,
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

PeaceBringer (1) -

elusive

Not Voting (1) -

Kop

~

VOTE COUNT 1.11

Otolia

(4) - Untrod Tripod, Dinare, PeaceBringer, ChaosOmega

Kop

(3) -

Wrong Song

,

hitogoroshi

, Mac
Dinare (2) -

Otolia, xRECKONERx

Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

PeaceBringer (1) -

elusive

Not Voting (1) -

Kop

~

VOTE COUNT 1.12

Otolia

(5) - Untrod Tripod, Dinare, PeaceBringer, ChaosOmega,

Kop

Kop

(3) -

Wrong Song

,

hitogoroshi

, Mac
Dinare (2) -

Otolia, xRECKONERx

Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

PeaceBringer (1) -

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.13

Otolia

(4) - Untrod Tripod, Dinare, PeaceBringer, ChaosOmega

Kop

(3) -

hitogoroshi

, Mac,

Wrong Song

Dinare (2) -

Otolia, xRECKONERx

Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

ChaosOmega (1) -

Kop

PeaceBringer (1) -

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.14

Kop

(3) -

hitogoroshi

, Mac,

Wrong Song

Otolia

(3) - Dinare, PeaceBringer, ChaosOmega
Dinare (2) -

Otolia, xRECKONERx

PeaceBringer (2) -

elusive

, Untrod Tripod
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

ChaosOmega (1) -

Kop

~

VOTE COUNT 1.15
ChaosOmega (3) -

Kop

,

Wrong Song

,

xRECKONERx

Kop

(3) -

hitogoroshi

, Mac, ChaosOmega

Otolia

(2) - Dinare, PeaceBringer
Untrod Tripod (2) - Ankamius,

Quilford

Dinare (1) -

Otolia

PeaceBringer (1) -

elusive

Wrong Song

(1) - Untrod Tripod

~

VOTE COUNT 1.16
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop

,

Wrong Song

,

xRECKONERx, Quilford

Kop

(4) -

hitogoroshi

, Mac, ChaosOmega, Ankamius
PeaceBringer (2) -

elusive, Otolia

Otolia

(2) - Dinare, PeaceBringer

Wrong Song

(1) - Untrod Tripod

~

VOTE COUNT 1.17
ChaosOmega (5) -

Kop

,

Wrong Song

,

xRECKONERx,

Quilford

, Dinare

Kop

(3) - Mac, ChaosOmega, Ankamius
PeaceBringer (2) -

elusive, Otolia

Wrong Song

(2) - Untrod Tripod,

hitogoroshi
Otolia

(1) - PeaceBringer

~

VOTE COUNT 1.18
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop

,

Wrong Song

, Quilford, Dinare

Kop

(3) - Mac, ChaosOmega, Ankamius
PeaceBringer (2) -

elusive, Otolia

Wrong Song

(2) -

Untrod Tripod, hitogoroshi

elusive (1) - xRECKONERx

Otolia

(1) - PeaceBringer

~

VOTE COUNT 1.19
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare, PeaceBringer
PeaceBringer (4) -

elusive, Otolia

,

Wrong Song

, ChaosOmega

Kop

(2) - Mac, Ankamius

Wrong Song

(2) - Untrod Tripod,

hitogoroshi

elusive (1) - xRECKONERx

~

VOTE COUNT 1.20
PeaceBringer (5) -

elusive, Otolia

,

Wrong Song

, ChaosOmega, Untrod Tripod
ChaosOmega (3) -

Kop, Quilford,

Dinare

Kop

(3) - Mac, Ankamius, PeaceBringer

elusive (1) - xRECKONERx

Wrong Song

(1) -

hitogoroshi

~

VOTE COUNT 1.21
PeaceBringer (4) -

Otolia

,

Wrong Song

, ChaosOmega, Untrod Tripod
ChaosOmega (3) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare

Kop

(3) - Mac, Ankamius, PeaceBringer

elusive (1) - xRECKONERx

Wrong Song

(1) -

hitogoroshi

Not Voting (1) -

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.22
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare,

Wrong Song

Kop

(3) - Mac, Ankamius, PeaceBringer
PeaceBringer (3) -

Otolia

, ChaosOmega, Untrod Tripod

elusive (1) - xRECKONERx

Wrong Song

(1) -

hitogoroshi

Not Voting (1) -

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.23
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop, Quilford,

Dinare,

Wrong Song

elusive (3) - xRECKONERx,

ChaosOmega,

hitogoroshi

Kop

(3) - Mac, Ankamius, PeaceBringer
PeaceBringer (2) -

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod
Ankamius (1) -

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.24
ChaosOmega (5) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare,

Wrong Song

,

elusive

elusive (4) - xRECKONERx,

ChaosOmega,

hitogoroshi

, Mac

Kop (

2) - Ankamius, PeaceBringer
PeaceBringer (2) -

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod

~

VOTE COUNT 1.25
ChaosOmega (5) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare,

Wrong Song

,

elusive

elusive

(4) -

xRECKONERx

, ChaosOmega,

hitogoroshi

, Mac
PeaceBringer (2) -

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod

Kop

(1) - PeaceBringer

Not Voting (1) - Ankamius

~

VOTE COUNT 1.26
ChaosOmega (5) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare,

Wrong Song

, PeaceBringer

elusive

(4) -

xRECKONERx

, ChaosOmega,

hitogoroshi

, Mac
PeaceBringer (2) -

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (2) - Ankamius,

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.27
ChaosOmega (5) -

Kop, Quilford,

Dinare,

Wrong Song

, PeaceBringer

elusive

(4) -

xRECKONERx,

ChaosOmega,

hitogoroshi,

Mac
PeaceBringer (2) -

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (2) - Ankamius,

elusive

~

VOTE COUNT 1.28
ChaosOmega (5) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare,

Wrong Song,

PeaceBringer

Kop

(3) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx

, ChaosOmega
PeaceBringer (2) -

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (3) - Ankamius,

elusive

, Mac

~

VOTE COUNT 1.29
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop, Quilford

, Dinare, PeaceBringer

Kop

(4) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx

, ChaosOmega,

Wrong Song

PeaceBringer (1) - Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (4) - Ankamius,

elusive,

Mac,

Otolia

~

VOTE COUNT 1.30
ChaosOmega (4) -

Kop, Quilford,

Dinare, PeaceBringer

Kop

(4) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx,

ChaosOmega,

Wrong Song

PeaceBringer (1) - Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (4) - Ankamius,

elusive

, Mac,

Otolia

~

VOTE COUNT 1.31

Kop

(6) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx

, ChaosOmega,

Wrong Song

, Dinare, Untrod Tripod
ChaosOmega (2) -

Quilford

, PeaceBringer

hitogoroshi (1) - Kop

Not Voting (4) - Ankamius,

elusive,

Mac,

Otolia

~

VOTE COUNT 1.32

Kop

(7) -

hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx

, ChaosOmega,

Wrong Song

, Dinare, Untrod Tripod,

Otolia

ChaosOmega (2) -

Quilford

, PeaceBringer

hitogoroshi (1) - Kop

Not Voting (3) - Ankamius,

elusive

, Mac

~

VOTE COUNT 2.01

Otolia

(1) - ChaosOmega

Not Voting (10) - Ankamius, Dinare,

elusive

, Mac,

Otolia

, PeaceBringer,

Quilford

, Untrod Tripod,

Wrong Song

,

xRECKONERx

~

VOTE COUNT 2.02

Otolia

(1) - ChaosOmega

Wrong Song

(1) - PeaceBringer

~

VOTE COUNT 2.02

Otolia

(1) - ChaosOmega

Wrong Song

(1) - PeaceBringer

Not Voting (9) - Ankamius, Dinare,

elusive

, Mac,

Otolia, Quilford,

Untrod Tripod,

Wrong Song

,

xRECKONERx

~

VOTE COUNT 2.03

Wrong Song

(6) - PeaceBringer,

elusive

, ChaosOmega, Dinare, Untrod Tripod,

xRECKONERx

Untrod Tripod (1) -

Otolia

Not Voting (4) - Ankamius, Mac,

Quilford

,

Wrong Song

~

VOTE COUNT 3.02

Otolia

(5) - Mac,

elusive

, ChaosOmega, PeaceBringer,

Quilford

Dinare (1) - Ankamius

Not Voting (3) - Dinare,

Otolia

, Untrod Tripod


~

[Mac]

Is that all you have to say? Chaos gave you an item and you?

well no, I was v/la and skimming and caught your complete misrep. i didn't use it because i didn't know where or how to use it last night - i thought otolia was going to flip scum so the townflip shook me a little. i wanted time to question my scumreads, something I hadn't had day two or three.

Mac, this may seem like a strange question, but a thought just occurred to me. Have you played Papers, Please at all?

I sure have!

although i kinda suck at it. i can never click between all the bits in a decent time.

sorry, my sister got married last weekend and I was at the Commune after that

don't really see a reason to move my vote, especially with both PB and elusive going "OH, I GUESS MAYBE UT" after I expressed suspicion of them

wouldn't be super shocked if that was just the scumteam right there

PB wouldn't surprise me; elusive would. i don't think she *needs* to go to all this vca as scum in this game in particular (not familiar with her scum game though - perhaps she prides herself on a strong scumgame regardless of the gamestate)

This is not related to the game at all but wth is commune? Is it like "commune" as in the isolated societies where stuff happens or code for something else? Every time someone on this site mentions the words I have the weirdest thoughts in my head..

i think it's where scummers meet up and get helluva drunk, but i may be wrong.

I think I'm going to vote dinare because that looks like it has the strongest chance of flipping scum. however, elusive, where are you if only one of dinare/ut flip scum?

[elusive]

. however, elusive, where are you if only one of dinare/ut flip scum?

If only one flips scum? How many scum would there be?

Then I'd look again through everything if I weren't NKed.

Ankamius, can you do your stuff with the VCs?

Chaos are you allowed to invent items or how does that work?

[Ankamius]

elusive are you sure VC 1.14 is right?

[Ankamius]

Actually, there's quite a few mistakes after that. You should start plugging all the VCs into a word processing program and doing a find-replace.

[elusive]

No, you should double check I'm on my phone so I can't but for some I replaced names and might have accidentally deleted something. I did try to double check but it wouldn't hurt to match with Equinox in ISO

[elusive]

ok that sucks is it the names only ? Yeah I did it manually in a post which was probably dumb but i forgot something weird happens when copying to ms word like the formatting

[Ankamius]

Why was ChaosOmega cleared again? This is important info.

[Ankamius]

Well, w/e

tl;dr: Dinare would be a good lynch to put day one into a lot more perspective and ChaosOmega shouldn't be so easily townread. Mac is also probably town.

[Dinare]

The VCs show WS parked on PB for the first four vote counts. It just seems very odd that scum would do that right off the bat. Then look at WS's other votes, they are on Kop for a duration and what I think are all town. So the votes on PB at game start don't make sense.

I feel you're putting too much weight on what was an RVS vote. There is almost never risk of a lynch in RVS.

Given the latest VC, Mac and Ankamius wanting to vote me(why aren't you guys voting anyone right now anyway?), and proximity to deadline, Time to claim, no? I claim VT.

Mac, that helps, thanks. Assuming I'm lynched now, everyone should keep in mind the character of Jorji vs. the EZIC messenger when it comes to any other powers that come out of Chaos tomorrow.

[ChaosOmega]

I know I had him in my lynch pool earlier, but I'm against this Dinare lynch. This reads like a mislynch to me.

So Ank, let's say you think I'm scum. I gave things to PB and Mac. It's pretty much impossible that me, PB, and Mac are scum together. So you think as scum I gave my 1-shot abilities to an innocent (maybe 2 innocents) just for towncred?

[PeaceBringer]

I know I had him in my lynch pool earlier, but I'm against this Dinare lynch. This reads like a mislynch to me.

So Ank, let's say you think I'm scum. I gave things to PB and Mac. It's pretty much impossible that me, PB, and Mac are scum together. So you think as scum I gave my 1-shot abilities to an innocent (maybe 2 innocents) just for towncred?

so then who do you think is scum, seriously... there is not much left....
there is you
Me
Mac
elusive
dinare
UT
mac
ank

right now I rank things as
dinare
UT
elusive
ank
mac
you
me (as I know my role)
how would you currently rank folks from scum to town?

[ChaosOmega]

UT
elusive
Ank
Dinare
you
Mac
me

[ChaosOmega]

Although if UT flips town, this whole thing pretty much is up for change.

[PeaceBringer]

Dinare, I am certainly willing to be convinced to go elsewise. So if you take you off the table and if you were to consider me town, where would you go?