CI1656: Hearthstone Mafia (GAME OVER)

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I'm vt, but I have two more PMS t read. Mobile, but I'll read em tonight.

I should be able to read fully tomorrow. Anything I should know until then.

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Ok, KB appears to be in Inn #2 which I only just got access to. Fascinatingly, Klaz appears to have not mentioned that Anti was in the first PT. (Inn #1) I'm not sure why.

As an aside, like 60% of the first PT was wondering why it's called an inn, which I can explain. OP for hearthstone, (Which I've run despite not playing the game) is run by Innkeepers and is called meeting at an inn or something along those lines. I... Don't think that's gonna matter, but given that my flavor is a card I'm gonna guess that the inn thing is a setup mechanic and not a player.

Ctrl F of N0 on the PT with KB in it gives one instance of Night Zero which is in a chart that says klaz + SH got neighborized in the cell after it in a chart labeled unexplained actions.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

Looking at this last couple of pages, I kinda want to lynch farside, for 1628, but I have no idea if that's a sane want.

Just in case:

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Now is there any legitimate reason to suspect an SK? Cause I don't really see SK and Vig inventor in the same setup as reasonable. Nvm, just realized doublekill on N2.

What's the case on KB or dragon (lynx, please)?

KB, is there a specific post in the PT you've referenced? If you give me a post number, I can paraphrase if you'd like. My first instinct looking at your PT posts is town, given you seemed to be scumhunting from the word Go, at least in there.

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i do not understand in the slightest why freek would not have hammered. rather then inconveniencing the mod and now the replacement.

I, uh... Don't really mind. I'm planning to read the entire game between today and tomorrow, so don't worry too much about inconveniencing me. If I was worried, I wouldn't have replaced in. (Or I'd have replaced in under the Thor college of replacements.)

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Now is there any legitimate reason to suspect an SK? Cause I don't really see SK and Vig inventor in the same setup as reasonable. Nvm, just realized doublekill on N2.

SK spec was because AP claimed vig after we already had a dead vig inventor

That's dumb. He gets shot by scum if he's an SK, meaning he's either bp or town.

Ok, KB appears to be in Inn #2 which I only just got access to. Fascinatingly, Klaz appears to have not mentioned that Anti was in the first PT. (Inn #1) I'm not sure why.

As an aside, like 60% of the first PT was wondering why it's called an inn, which I can explain. OP for hearthstone, (Which I've run despite not playing the game) is run by Innkeepers and is called meeting at an inn or something along those lines. I... Don't think that's gonna matter, but given that my flavor is a card I'm gonna guess that the inn thing is a setup mechanic and not a player.

Ctrl F of N0 on the PT with KB in it gives one instance of Night Zero which is in a chart that says klaz + SH got neighborized in the cell after it in a chart labeled unexplained actions.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

Looking at this last couple of pages, I kinda want to lynch farside, for 1628, but I have no idea if that's a sane want.

Just in case:

UNVOTE:

Now is there any legitimate reason to suspect an SK? Cause I don't really see SK and Vig inventor in the same setup as reasonable. Nvm, just realized doublekill on N2.

What's the case on KB or dragon (lynx, please)?

KB, is there a specific post in the PT you've referenced? If you give me a post number, I can paraphrase if you'd like. My first instinct looking at your PT posts is town, given you seemed to be scumhunting from the word Go, at least in there.

Jingle: did klaz say he was in the inn at all to kb.
The reason this is important is kb claimed she knew about klaz being targetted was he told her.
Also no one is claiming to have neighborized anyone.

As for my post, this game has been dragging ass.
My theory about the sk is more so AP wanting to lynch dragon when he's had very little to say about dragon as scum.

Pretty sure his first post was that, actually. I know that he said something about being in a neighborhood with sonic n1 and that he didn't do whatever action caused it.

BTW I'm on page 12 because people have been extraordinarily needy today.

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Why was there no neighborhood last night, or are there any theories?

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Jingle, if you actually think that the neighborization is an unannounced random mod mechanic just because the name uses the word Inn then I really have nothing to say to you. Get real, please and thanks. dragonspawn is caught scum. He's the only one who hasn't been neighborized. The d1 neighbors started on either side of them in the player list so dragonspawn is likely Flametongue Totem or Dire Wolf Alpha or Argus Defender or etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

So what's the point of the "on either side" bit? That seems like a bit of a jump.

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Just off of d1 I'm okay with dragon being the lynch, although your theory post is still town sided.

You should probably claim your Vig target beforehand to prevent "oh no, I tracked the dead guy!"

Intent to hammer once AP posts again.

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Damn. I was hoping.

Anyway, there doesn't seem to be much point to waiting.

VOTE: dragon

Let's see if I've gotta read the rest.

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Ok, so I'm solid town on AP. I'm in the inn again, this time with reck.

Catchup told me that I had a tracker inno on me once the second scum was lynched, so I should be confirmed.

Reck and KB, both had some pretty towny stuff in their ISO as well as some stuff, and I was kinda hoping freek was the last scum, but I'd love to hear any arguments y'all may have.

We're in MYLO, but I'm basically conftown and so is AP, so I'm not really feeling a No Lynch. Thoughts?

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I'm going to save us all a little bit of time here and claim.

We are Savannah Highmane, Town Tracker.

N1 we tracked ABR.

N2 we tracked Grib, he visited you that night KB.

N3 we tracked RMM, and he went nowhere.

Mislynch us if you must, but you are acting extremely foolish here.

There was a kill, my slot went no where, I'm town.

You brought up a ninja, but that's dumb, so...


And actually I'm thinking KB makes more sense as having killed freek, given the fact that freek spent basically the whole time after I replaced calling KB scum. I'm totally gonna be leaning on AP here though, because he's both been in the game longer and better at scumhunting than I am.

Thoughts?

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AP - VOTE RECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know my town game by now, yes?


it IS NOT US. i'm uncertain of what jingle might do... because i've only played with him once.
but if your unsure, ask me a billion questions and i can answer.

i don't want to lose after spending so much freaking time with this game

Twice, I think?

We played in AP's everyone but Jingle gets a fucking PT game, where I obvtowned and you were a mason. And I'm pretty sure we played before that.

Also, shuttup, I'm talking at AP here, so that I can have input before I make him choose.

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Oh, also, because it came up earlier, I'd just like to take the opportunity to apologize again for the shitshow that was Lost Room, AP.

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1st, vig inventor is just unbalanced in a mini. There's no two ways about that. The swing level is fucking intense. Cop/BP/Tracker is already justification for RB/Goon, so I agree with you there that we're looking for quite a bit of power, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a protective. Doc or something.

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Its possible, given that KJ was a fairly surprising flip to everyone. Someone do VCA.

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If AP is an SK, town has already lost this game, and I'm more than happy to give it to AP.

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The assertion is that you've forgotten the possibility of there being an SK and thus are scum. I think I'm missing a couple logical steps too, but that's barebones what I'm seeing.

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It's not Jingle.

I'm having a really hard time getting emotionally involved in this game. If it's still going when I'm not sick, I'll do some VCA because apparently no one wanted to do the homework I gave them.

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Yeah, so um. I'm totally confirmed, or at least confirmed enough that it doesn't matter. And it could feasibly be 1:1:2 here, but town has already lost in that case.

I'm feeling better, so Monday I should be able to VCA. Unless something surprising pops out at me, I'll probably vote KB at that point, but I do like to be thorough.

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actually, jingle if it is somehow 2-1-1

we've lost anyway

I, uh. I said that. A couple pages ago, when I said that AP was close enough to conftown to not be anywhere near a lynch table.

Sorry I disappeared for a bit, but a friend is going through a divorce right now and I'm trying to be there for him when I can. And yesterday was a day where he really needed a friend. Anyway, VCA for a bit, then work. If I come up with anything I feel like sharing, I'll let ya'll know.

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Vote Count 1.2

Grib (3) -

killerjester

, xRECKONERx,

ActionDan

Mantisdreamz (2) - the freekazoid, Sonic Heroes
Klazam (2) - Mantisdreamz, prawneater
killerjester (1) - dragonspawn
dragonspawn (2) - Grib, JasonWazza
Not Voting (3) - Albert B. Rampage, Klazam, ika

This is a pretty good argument for reck town. And the kj push on KB at the end of D1 doesn't look any better.

VOTE: Krystal Bald

AP, go ahead and take your win if you're scum. Mantis, Nik, if you're town, I'm sorry.

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Fuck color tags. KJ shoulda been red too.

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And..... AP is conftown.

Joyous Day!

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AP, come speak at me. I'm town, you're town. I think reck is town because I doubt scum joins a wagon with both of their buddies out of the blue on D1. Do you agree?

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AP, come speak at me. I'm town, you're town. I think reck is town because I doubt scum joins a wagon with both of their buddies out of the blue on D1. Do you agree?

i've done it.

on the flip side, why do you think we are scum?

The back and forth with freek didn't read as TvT to me, and the way the scum danced around your wagon D1 was kinda suspicious. But more than that is that I don't think Reck is scum.

It's not a cut and dry LYLO by any means, but I don't know that there's much left to be said either.

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but take a look at reck's posts specifically, after albert was nk'ed. that may give you an idea, of the weirdness that reck was executing.

The confusion at vig inventor and vig combo seems pretty natural to me. And a continuation of the VCA confirms my suspicions.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, and the ATE is actually getting to me, but I think I'm right.

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Yeah, AP deserved to win, but the game seemed pretty fucked. I knew there was a good chance of AP being an SK, but the only chance we had if he was was scum crosskilling.

Had we no lynched, AP had 0 motivation to shoot Reck. He just shot me and either had a 1v1 LYLO with KB and Reck. If Reck shot KB (which would never happen cause reck isn't an idiot), then AP just won outright. I actually expected a full BP from AP if he was SK.

Scum was definitely underpowered though, and I feel kinda bad for Reck. I woulda given them at least a rolecop to give them a way to interact with the SK. And vig inventor is like, impossible to balance. Incredibly swingy.

I am sorry, KB, and I came close to voting reck. Also AP, you're a dick. You should've hammered when the quickhammer ensured your win. Dick.

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also partial flips are bad

Seconded.

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Called it. Also, jfyi, reck asking sitechat for a replacement is why I joined. And the vca for this game was weird.