NY 186: Mafia In Japan - Mafia Victory!

[WoodyWoodpecker]

vote: evilpacman

because he's evil

[WoodyWoodpecker]

vote: Nero

[WoodyWoodpecker]

It's very odd but I don't think it's vote worthy. He's putting a big spotlight on him if he's scum.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

i really don't like being told within a day of start who we have to lynch

who said you have to listen to him?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

ika or celt are our lynches today.

no they aren't, at least not based on the reasoning you have provided. I don't see anything they either have done at this point to indicate they are scum. if you have some personal vendetta against them or something then take that elsewhere but this game isn't the place for it.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Enlighten me piss.

?? Like WW and I had a whoel conversation about her claim. you didnt take away from the context she was serious?

WW = me?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

OK cause I was like I didn't have a conversation lol

So he's ww, I'll be woody

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Too bad Im an IC

This isnt a joke. Im a D2 asetic IC

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Why do you think this is bad reasoning, Woody?

Why do I think policy lynching is bad reasoning?

Do I really need to answer that?

It's bad because it allows you to coast without actually doing any scum hunting. People are even saying you are probably town because scum wouldn't do that. I disagree and think scum would absolutely do that.

I don't feel you are contributing much to the game outside of this PL stuff (granted I haven't really read this big post you made) but all this PL stuff had kind of made it hard for me to follow the game. It's bad enough i haven't played a large on here before but when the majority of the conversation is about PL its a huge distraction. I feel you are probably scum hoping to slide by on the guise that scum wouldn't do that.

Now if you have some actual reasons why you think these people are scum, I'll be glad to read it but unless you just posted some, I haven't really seen anything lynh worthy coming from ika. I actually find ika amusing

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Nero, your stuff about kelt is much better than your stuff about ika but I'm still not sold on you so I'm leaving my vote for now.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I have like one post about pushing a pl and that was my first post. Its really annoying that you aren't reading the thread very well but you can make it up to me by voting scumCelt.

actually you have 3 where you say your vote is policy or that he should be policy lynched. (post 73 technically could count as a 4th since you explain that you already provided your reasoning and your reasoning is policy)

then you have other posts that explain why you want to policy lynch him (post 57 & post 102)

106 you still have ika in your lynch pool and it's still because of policy


I find it really annoying that you are saying that you only have 1 post about pushing a PL when it is clearly obvious that you have more. You can make it up to me by self voting cause I don't see any reason why town would want to deceive me which you just tried to do so obviously that means you are scum trying to deceive me.


vote stays

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Its possible that she could do this regardless of alignment but I think its well within her scum meta to chainsaw defend her scum buddy wich is prob ika. Piss is a maybe but Ika most likely.

but even if you think I have 3 posts out of 45 pushing for an Ika pl then I don't understand how that is the majority. Unless you are really really bad at math.

What game was this with ika and house? Can i get a link

I didn't say a majority of your posts were about policy lynch but it seemed like a majority of the games posts revolved around policy lynch discussion

[WoodyWoodpecker]

This is really really horrifically bad.

I actually agree but I still think nero is the right lynch

[WoodyWoodpecker]

This is celt avoiding me

meh not really

[WoodyWoodpecker]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

@People vehemently against Kaboose lynch. With Kaboose wagon at twice the size of any other wagon, this is where you need to start actually coming up with something, because if you are getting town from his posts, it is evidently not the general consensus.

I read kaboose as town and he is not on my list of people to lynch day 1. It's mostly gut though and I feel like he's acting in a way that scum wouldn't. It also seems like this is a scum motivated wagon because it definitely feels like he is hinting at some sort of pr or something and scum would definitely rather take that out with a lynch instead of a nk

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I'll look that over later nero. Thanks

[WoodyWoodpecker]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

Not at this time...

why not?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

[WoodyWoodpecker]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

Not at this time...

why not?

There's a rule...

Smh

Why bring it up?

If I believed in policy lynches I'd vote you right now

[WoodyWoodpecker]

that's actually scum bro

That's you bro

Unless you are bussing, which is possible

[WoodyWoodpecker]

it looks like a joke

this

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Your buddies must really think you are a lost cause if they are bussing you...

[WoodyWoodpecker]

You try to get me to talk about ongoing games then threaten to PL mebecause I won't talk about ongoing games.

Fuck you, Scum.

VOTE: WoodyWoodpecker

you are right.. OH WAIT.... you were the one who originally introduced something from the ongoing game and when I tried to question you about it you made me aware that it was from an ongoing game and you can't talk about it...

so how exactly am I the one trying to get you to talk about an ongoing game when you were the one who violated site rules by bringing it up in the first place?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

cause he doesn't fell like bussing you obviously...

[WoodyWoodpecker]

then you should prob stop voting town and vote her.

Oh you and dem one liners.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Celt

Okay people let's make this happen.

No, Nero is scum lets Lynch scum OK?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

eww

What are you eewing ?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Get off of my first post, the gamestate has changed since then.

I know and your play thus far doesn't make me feel like you are town... Imagine that

[WoodyWoodpecker]

i think the nero lynch could

[WoodyWoodpecker]

tbh I don't particularly think either wagon is going to produce a scum lynch.

what changed your mind? you were voting nero so you obviously thought he was scum at some point

[WoodyWoodpecker]

ok so I just read your last few posts and they are really pinging me hard.

1. so you "went with the flow" with your vote on nero and you didn't even scum read him
2. You admitted you didn't want to stir the pot
3. you place a vote on PM in what looks to be another "safe" vote and you even ask if anyone is against pm
4. you aren't really doing any scum hunting at all and you certainly aren't pushing for people you actually think are scum (at least not that I can tell because 1. no cases are being made by you and 2. no reasons provide for your votes

[WoodyWoodpecker]

^directed at espeonage

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I can read fine, I just think you are scum so your arguments don't really do anything for me

[WoodyWoodpecker]

top

(lynch nero)

#GoodPosting

[WoodyWoodpecker]

how is there a shit ton resistance to celt when celt is the largest wagon? There is really only a couple of people resisting and the rest are basically being useless

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Kaboose had resistance but I think that's because he has soft claimed a pr.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

It's also pretty early. If we had like 3 days left id think you have more ground to stand on but getting 6 so quickly doesn't sound like resistance to me.

The thing for me is while technically you make a compelling arguy, my gut says its still wrong and he's town. It also tells me you can't be trusted.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Im not going to post in here anymore because this is dumb.

Im sheeping nero forever, so my vote is his vote.

(Lynch ika)

But Nero isn't voting ika...

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Do you think Kaboose, as scum, would rolefish that blatantly? + its not like he is the only player on this site (and not even in this game) that thinks we should get to d2 ASAP.

Getting to D2 asap imo is always best for town. Two flips to look at usually, plus town powers getting to work, leaving scum in the dark on who they should NK and whatnot. Also the longer D1 goes the more mute town becomes and scum aren't going to prevent that from happening by keeping the conversations going. The more you can create to talk about the better. D1 has very little to discuss unless there are certain roles in the game to help.

But getting to day 2 asap stifles day 1 conversation and that's just as important. Why rush the process?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Do you think Kaboose, as scum, would rolefish that blatantly? + its not like he is the only player on this site (and not even in this game) that thinks we should get to d2 ASAP.

Getting to D2 asap imo is always best for town. Two flips to look at usually, plus town powers getting to work, leaving scum in the dark on who they should NK and whatnot. Also the longer D1 goes the more mute town becomes and scum aren't going to prevent that from happening by keeping the conversations going. The more you can create to talk about the better. D1 has very little to discuss unless there are certain roles in the game to help.

But getting to day 2 asap stifles day 1 conversation and that's just as important. Why rush the process?

Because on D2 with flips you have actual things to talk about and converse with. Not made up things like in D1. I think if you can get lucky on bringing up a topic and asking everyone their opinion and which side of the fence they sit on D1 is a success, move on and build from that.

I don't think that D1 should simply be votes until a lynch. But it shouldn't drag on to the time limit.

I have seen scum lynched day 1 though. You seem to assume that we won't lynch scum day 1.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

PLEASE show me where I said that.

I am BEGGING you to show me how you came to that conclusion.

you don't say it no, but the fact that you seem to want to quickly get through day 1 and have flips implies it. At least to me it does.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

That's a hardcore assumption.

thats how I feel though. Day 1 conversation may not seem much especially day 1 but once we get close to mylo/lylo those interactions can prove useful.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

you do realize I am entitled to my own opinions right? that is how I interpreted your actions.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I think nero is scum

i am suspcious of espeonage and gray fox for some reason I have trouble remembering his posts so he's null

[WoodyWoodpecker]

And you are entitled to that, even if its wrong

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Why does ika want to lynch nero when he isnt voting nero?

Why does Nero want to lynch ika when he's not voting ika?

Why are you seeping Nero and saying lynch ika but aren't voting ika either?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Does anyone else think Esp could be scum?

I do

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Great argument

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Can I remind you to say more than things? Saying 1 word probably isn't usefulness

It's later and.I'm.passing outnsoon

Ignite everyone

[WoodyWoodpecker]

VOTE: PM

Nope.

VOTE: Esp

Nope

vote: Nero

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Nah I'm.not scum, but Nero is for sure

[WoodyWoodpecker]

No Mason shouldn't out

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Nah. Nero ruined day 1 with his shit, I'm not playing another day letting him have free reign to distract town and mislynch somebody else.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

And just cause you are conf.town doesn't mean I care what you have to say. I trust my own reads and nobody elses

[WoodyWoodpecker]

And just cause you are conf.town doesn't mean I care what you have to say. I trust my own reads and nobody elses

Well yeah, scum dont give a fuck about anyone else's reads. They just vote and hope people follow along.

Like your shitty reasoning for voting nero that sums up to "policy"

You obviously never played with me cause I never give a shit about anyone else but my reads.

Sure you could call it policy or it could be what it actually is and see nothing but scum motivation for his actions, just like I did day 1.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

If we out the mason, we are directing a night kill.

Also WW, other than tunneling, explain your reasoning for neroscum

The fact he distracted everyone and steered the game off into a tangent about policy lynching and thaied about it later claiming he only had 1/2 posts is pretty much where I knew he was scum. Town has no motivation to lie like that, they would accept responsibility and he didn't. He also strong armed the Lynch on somebody and refused to listen to anything he had to say. Basically when somebody lies they become auto scum to me and need rope

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Pm is town. Let's not waste time here.

Why is he town?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Yeah esp is prob scum also

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Odd nidbit: I don't cuss. But this site has me raging up a storm.

Maybe time to take a break?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I will say boon's reaction seems town, but I don't understand the anger

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Plus, I'm a mason, so of course I'm town.

You are? Oh well than my gut was right. But seriously chill the fuck out

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I can't tell if you are legit or trolling so I'm sticking withy vote.

@sal, go ahead and campaign for my Lynch, its not going to change how I play.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

if youg going to fake guilties at least get the gender rigth

read my sig; i really don't give a fuck.

No

[WoodyWoodpecker]

God damn I quoted the wrong freaking post

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Everyone, lynch Boon, and let's see for sure if he is indeed a Mason.

No

[WoodyWoodpecker]

ok I feel like I should know this but what is multiball?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

oh ok, thanks. yeah I don't know about this site but on the site I used to play on large games had 2 scum factions, even 2 plus a sk so I already came into this game thinking that was the case. question about this site, if there are 2 scum factions aren't they named something different? like Red mafia and blue mafia or in this case something japanese related like Hiroshima mafia vs tokyo mafia or something like that. so a scum flip of any kind imo would tell us if we are in multiball

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Everyone, lynch Boon, and let's see for sure if he is indeed a Mason.

No

PM and i are greys mason partners. Hey I softclaimed that before boon claimed. Wut?

legit or trolling?

[WoodyWoodpecker]

vote: boon

I don't know about this site but I have seen 3 masons before.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Also, PM if you are a mason, your play sucks.

Fine, I admit it! I am an autistic, AKA, mentally retarded!

And Quaroth is right about the claim. (In b4 I get vig shot.)

Please don't refer to autistic people as mentally retarded.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I don't understand this discussion, if he assumes one thing it doesn't mean he's fishing

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Inb4 jester

[WoodyWoodpecker]

v/la tomorrow and possibly the whole weekend

[WoodyWoodpecker]

back from v/la and will be reading up on the pages I missed sometime today

[WoodyWoodpecker]

you got all of that in 20 minutes?

vote: nero

still think he is scum

[WoodyWoodpecker]

tbh I have been so focused on nero I haven't really been able to focus on anyone else. My gut tells me not to trust epm or conman but I don't think I can actually explain it unless I iso them

[WoodyWoodpecker]

the way he distracted town early with the whole policy lynch thing, than he basically pushed and pushed on kling basically making it impossible to focus on anyone else. Day one gave us no useable info at all. Than day 2 he kind of laid low. he had 140 posts day 1 and less than 15 day 2.

I also realize it doesn't take that long to iso somebody but was espe suspicious of anyone else? was kaboose his only scum read? Also could the kill have been PR hunting? or like Innocent suggested a frame job? I get you want to pressure him but you seemed convinced like he is scum based of the nK alone and that's kind of naive if you ask me

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I don't much care basing things on activity levels, he could have been busy during D2, and not during D1.

But he was less aggressive, it was a complete play style change. Play style changes worry me

[WoodyWoodpecker]

just a heads up going to be pretty inactive tomorrow but should be here for sunday. I'll try to check in from my phone if i'm able to.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Well yesterday was a productive day /sarcasm

Going to try and reread and analyze the previous Lynch wagons sometime today to see if I can find other scum. I'm so not used to this many players, idk how you guys do this

[WoodyWoodpecker]

sorry I have some family issues that just came up and I have to go out of town for an unknown amount of time. I will be unable to play anymore and will need to be replaced. Sorry about that.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Thanks for modding, sucks my first mafia game and I had to replace out. At least mafia won.