NY 186: Mafia In Japan - Mafia Victory!

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: waxing and wanding

'Cause I said.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

Do you have a town read on me?

Null leaning Town, actually.

I think Nero's Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Are you scum with on of Ika, pisskop or Boons?

Those were such good times....

No, sadly, I'm not Scum with anyone, I'm all Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Null leaning Town, actually.

I think Nero's Scum.

I'm assuming this is based around my claim? If it is, why do you think I wouldn't have played it the same way as, for instance, scum ascetic?

Why do you think Nero is scum?

It's more about style than words, for both of you.

[Klingoncelt]

Are you guys using meta purely for RVS votes or is it going to factor into your play for the entirety of the game?

Psychology meta is a useful tool.

[Klingoncelt]

my RVS vote on IKA is absolutely policy.

Kling and PM might be ok lynches, idk yet.

And don't you always line up mislynches when you're Scum?

Hmm...

[Klingoncelt]

Nero threatening to PL I don't think is alignment indicative.

I disagree. He's more paranoid and cautious as Town, aggressive and careless as Scum.

VOTE: NeroCain

[Klingoncelt]

I didn't like Klingon's #49, for some reason.

Not much else I can say at the moment.

49 "It's more about style than words, ..."

Me saying that I'm into psychological meta.

There are a few players on this site that I can't figure out. But most of them act just a little bit different according to alignment. Style tells me a lot. Style's very difficult to change.

[Klingoncelt]

Nero threatening to PL I don't think is alignment indicative. I don't support it, but I don't think it's in any way unreasonable. Actually, I think it's the kind of thing town are slightly more likely than scum to do because there's a lot of players who would consider it to be entirely unnecessary and not want to draw attention onto themselves.

Vote: Radja

Don't really like 72, want to know if he has any actual thoughts on people's play so far. Also want to know why PM is specifically questioning Boon's stance on PL'ing Nero and ignoring Nero's.

Actualyin the 2 games where somone wanted to ploicy lynch me they were scum

I've seen Town wanting to do policy lynches before. I've wanted policy lynches as Town, Scum, and 3rd Party.

But the idea is to have a good reason for a PL. There's been no good reason presented to PL Ika.

[Klingoncelt]

So far I'm scum reading everyone. I feel like the mod's next post may endgame me.

"I feel like the mod's next post may endgame me."

That requires an explanation.

[Klingoncelt]

Joke is on you guys 'cause IKA might actually be scum here for not being his trollsy town self.

There's been no good reason presented to PL Ika.

I still don't think that its a great idea to keep a player around that's gonna hammer all the time, why do you think this is bad reasoning?

ika or celt are our lynches today.

Ika is much more serious as Town.

[Klingoncelt]

If we are PLing anyone it will be Klingon.

You need to explain that.

[Klingoncelt]

I stand by Nero's reasoning btw

Yeah, you two are Scum.

No question.

[Klingoncelt]

Also I wonder why Celt is avoiding me....

Because I'm in like 9 other games right now.

[Klingoncelt]

I stand by Nero's reasoning btw

Yeah, you two are Scum.

No question.

You arent reading are you?

Nero's reasoning is unreasonable, yet you stand by it.

Scummy.

[Klingoncelt]

Espy, I'm still waiting for your explanation.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh right, hilariously unbalanced.

What?

151

If we are PLing anyone it will be Klingon.

Please explain.

[Klingoncelt]

look at who is still ignoring my case on her.

You have a "case" on someone?

[Klingoncelt]

Celt is ignoring me. I'm butthurt.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't get the Celt wagon. Can someone enlighten me.

There's Scum on it.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't get the Celt wagon. Can someone enlighten me.

She claimed scum when she started avoiding me like the plague.

He claimed Scum with every post.

Townies, promise me that if I'm lynched you'll flashlynch Nero the next Day.

[Klingoncelt]

Read my celt case

You'll need a microscope and a lot of imagination.

[Klingoncelt]

Actually, in an Idealistic world, if Vig shot ika, scum shoot PM, other scum/sk shoot PK, would the imaturity disappear?

Only if Nero died first.

[Klingoncelt]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

Not at this time...

[Klingoncelt]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61337

...

I am also not buying her "I'm in 9 other games!" like that's a valid excuse for anything.

You know why you suck.

VOTE: NeroCain

[Klingoncelt]

I see that you are still avoiding comment on the current case on you (or backing up your statement that I line up mislynches as scum, wich BTW ignores the fact that we've never been in a game together where I was scum unless you were an alt) and instead take small potshots and witticisims. That's not scummy at all.

Not to mention how you are artificially inflating your post count by posting small one liners instead of making just one big post.

I rarely if ever make big posts.

I don't give a flying fuck about my post count, how the hell can post count be important to anyone?

[Klingoncelt]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

Not at this time...

So you made a statement that you can't back up? Why would town do that?

Because of that pesky rule ...

[Klingoncelt]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

Not at this time...

why not?

There's a rule...

[Klingoncelt]

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?

Not at this time...

why not?

There's a rule...

Smh

Why bring it up?

If I believed in policy lynches I'd vote you right now

You try to get me to talk about ongoing games then threaten to PL mebecause I won't talk about ongoing games.

Fuck you, Scum.

VOTE: WoodyWoodpecker

[Klingoncelt]

vote: klingy

Don't be ridiculous. I'm so Town that even noobScum know better that to vote for me.

[Klingoncelt]

Unvote, Vote: Nero

The limited meta I have on Klingon states that Klingon is far more stupid than this as scum.

Uhh, thanks?

[Klingoncelt]

You're Scum.

It would be worth my getting mislynched D1 if it guarantees you die Day 2.

[Klingoncelt]

if I'm scum why would you even unvote me? lol

Okay.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: NeroCain

[Klingoncelt]

You're Scum.

It would be worth my getting mislynched D1 if it guarantees you die Day 2.

So, you want us to lynch you? What are you, a Jester? If not, then why are you threatening Nero to die in this game.

I have plenty of reasons for this lynch, mostly scum based.

1. Being an absolute hypocrite (as pointed by Woody.)

2. Threatening death on someone, clearly Mafia business if you ask me. It's saying "If I die, I want this person to be killed by the Mafia, which is something you only would promise if you're scum yourself.

3. Even with the wagon clearly in front of you to lynch Nero, you still opt not to try, which makes me think that you are aware that... One, it will be a mislynch if we did in fact lynch Nero, and two, Nero would die anyway by the Mafia as with the statement above. (Edit: NOW he tries to lynch Nero, after Nero questioned it. Bit weird, wouldn't ya think?)

I know a thing or two about digging graves, as I've done it a load of times, but I am as sure as all Hell, that you dug yourself one grave, that I'll be damned if you even get out of it.

VOTE: Klingoncelt[/vote ]

If you're Jester, then congrats my man, you have just won this game.

Nice speech there. Looks like something a total noob would say.

I'm not the Jester. Or a man, for that matter.

Nero is Scum. When I flip Town, maybe you'll believe me.

[Klingoncelt]

KlingonCelt appearing not to care who gets lynched as long as it's not him. Solid way to play as town.... WAIT A MINUTE! THAT'S SCUM PLAY!

You are lying.

Of course I'd rather not be lynched. Of course I'd rather have Scum lynched.

Why did you ignore me saying I could be today's mislynch if it means Nero gets the noose tomorrow?

[Klingoncelt]

i think the nero lynch could

^ ^ ^ This

[Klingoncelt]

Our starting points are different. You're apparently starting with klingon, ika, espe and me kaboose and radja

What?

I did not know about this.

[Klingoncelt]

I'll be back late this afternoon or early evening. Major RL shit went down and I couldn't stop by for very long.

[Klingoncelt]

The klingon I remember has never said anything remotely profound that was based on anything resembling logic.

Titus takes credit for being my IC.

[Klingoncelt]

/yawn

I hope Klingoncelt's RL stuff will be settled soon. It must suck, however she's kinda a central player to this game right now.

I have no idea what some posts from Espe are about. I wouldn't call that a problem, though, I just thought it may be worth mentioning, but perhaps it's just me who's too thick to understand.
OTOH, it does bother me that the only argument for Nero being scum I can recall is just meta (PEDIT: oh, & greyfox's stuff, of course. Frankly, I find that xase quite slippery, but let's say it's fair enough, for the sake of simplicity, so is it

the

definitive case against Nero?)

RL is much better now, my kid won't die.

I'll go ahead and claim. Vanilla Townie. Yep, I'm really a VT, not a PR and not Scum.

I'll do a reads list directly.

[Klingoncelt]

Just for shots and giggles, say celt is lynched. Whos scum if she's town?

Nero and Kaboose for starters.

[Klingoncelt]

@NeroCain -

I have a great idea - you should claim.

[Klingoncelt]

Scum team = Nero Cain, Radja, Kaboose

[Klingoncelt]

@NeroCain -

I have a great idea - you should claim.

no

@Celt

Sorry, I was at the hospital watching my son nearly die from the same thing that killed his wife 2 months ago.

Fortunately he will recover.

You are Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Damn celt hope everything works out for you

Thanks. He's doing much better today!

[Klingoncelt]

Jazzmyn has been replaced by St Constantine the Hermit.

St Constantine the Hermit

Excellent username.

[Klingoncelt]

... this is well… misrepresenting what Celt said. It’s fairly obvious to anyone paying attention (I hope) that celt saying “It would be worth my getting mislynched D1 if it guarantees you die Day 2” isn’t a mafia killshot threat. Like. Celt even says DAY. This seems like you are stretching to make this fit what you want it too.

Exactly.

Player A gets mislynched. Day 2 Town lynches Player B, A's #1 suspect.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, so

@Klingoncelt:

This could be considered to be the cornerstone (cornerpost?) of my vote on you, so instead of spreading us too much, let's just focus on this one:

look at who is still ignoring my case on her.

You have a "case" on someone?

You were clearly reading at that point, based on your other posts around that time, yet you claimed you didn't know about a relatively well-articualted case on

you

, made by a

scumsuspect of yours

. & even if I believe that that's true (frankly, quite difficult to do so), there's still that you didn't look up the case but kept up the tradition of non-content, moreover, in such a way, that, to be honest, "makes one's palm itchy", so to say.
To sum up: both the "content" & the tone of #256 hurt town in a way that seems deliberate.

Nero has no case on me. He's making up a bunch of bullshit and throwing it at the wall hoping something will stick.

I'll make it easy for you - no one can build a Scum case against me. Why? Because I'm not Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry for the triple post, but I wanted to add that I'm glad your son made it. I must be a great relief for you.

Thank you, it definitely is!

[Klingoncelt]

Good game, Scumz.

Thanks for the game, RC, it was a good one!

[Klingoncelt]

It would have been fun having you two there.