I'm speaking of the first tower, and even if the other guy counts as .3 of a champ because hes behind it's still a edge in fights. and after they pick up the objective they won because of your nonpresence, they can rotate top and murder you because youre far away from safety. games are won via drag/mid/bot objectives, and not top.
It's fine to TP back to your own tower if you would miss cs otherwise and it's early. Like, ideally you don't get harassed down to that point, but it's not a "wrong" use if you're forced into it.
@Klazam: Also no, you should be be just smashing down the inhib while the other guy TPs into fights that he doesn't make a difference in because he's behind.
And then while you're trying to push down top your opponent is getting assists and/or kills by TPing down in time to earn them?
I mean, yeah, some people are gonna be stupid and either TP back to lane to lose harder or TP too early and just get wrecked, but then those are the bad players. The good/smart players aren't going to do that.
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I mean, Pro LoL stuff isn't entirely the correct comparison against Gold-level players, but there are games where top lanes have lost lane hard, TP'd to other lanes to pick up kills, and then helped win the game off of that even if their opponent wins the lane hard.
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In post 43299, PJ. wrote:@Klazam: Also no, you should be be just smashing down the inhib while the other guy TPs into fights that he doesn't make a difference in because he's behind.
And then he picks up a doublekill. That tp surely didn't matter. Before you say it doesn't happen, just did to me.
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I love when my opponent goes TPs to another lane, because I get to get stronger for free and probably take a tower(and if the jungle comes like buttons says, I probably get a kill). As long as the worst case scenario of him picking up a double or triple doesn't happen, I literally could care less about what he's doing with TP if he's not coming back.
TP is a largely versatile spell, and yeah there are "better" ways to use it, but the most annoying to me is when a bad player uses it to keep me from getting ahead after killing him.
and you guys act like you can't stop a guy from TPing. Or see exactly where the guy is TPing to and ping it to warn your teammates.
In post 43307, Iecerint wrote:It's often harder to get kills in toplane against tanks, but trivial to get a double kill depending upon the support if you teleport bot.
I disagree with this. I'd rather lane against a tank then a not tank. Literally 100 times out of 100. Darius beats basically every tank.
In post 43306, PJ. wrote:TP is a largely versatile spell, and yeah there are "better" ways to use it, but the most annoying to me is when a bad player uses it to keep me from getting ahead after killing him.
Then he's kinda doing a good job because you're not becoming a monster of some sort against his team. Even if that may not be his intent.
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Call me crazy, but unless there's a triple kill or something stupid botlane from my TP, I don't consider myself ahead if I lose one or both towers. Not worth, bro. Panzer's "play" sounds correct in that sense.
He's mindlessly TPing back into lane, by all accounts that's not what the spell is for. It's awful because the guy who got killed or forced out actually doesn't lose anything. And that's annoying. Sometimes it can even pit him up and that is bullshit. Simply by having TP you have the ability to win a lane by losing it, which opens up everything guys are saying about 4v2 and w/e. Take TP out of the game. It's anti player choice and anti player skill. Or at least nerf it back to where it was.
Yeah, if you can't hard beat your lane opponent you are a scrub and deserve to lose. You don't deserve to make an impact. Season 2 snowball top meta was the best. Now too much bitchassness in top lane. I mostly play ADC because it.
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Lol Panzer, you give such bad advice. 9 out of 10 times, I win my lane by playing a tank top, using my tp right and stalling my opponent by simply outfarming them rather then killing them. You sound like the guy who pushes constantly, then die to ganks and fall behind because of it
In post 43313, PJ. wrote:He's mindlessly TPing back into lane, by all accounts that's not what the spell is for. It's awful because the guy who got killed or forced out actually doesn't lose anything. And that's annoying. Sometimes it can even pit him up and that is bullshit. Simply by having TP you have the ability to win a lane by losing it, which opens up everything guys are saying about 4v2 and w/e. Take TP out of the game. It's anti player choice and anti player skill. Or at least nerf it back to where it was.
Actually that is partially what it's for. They specifically made the cd shorter on buildings to make it harder to snowball top lane because the top laner deciding the game is fucking stupid.
In post 43315, PJ. wrote:Yeah, if you can't hard beat your lane opponent you are a scrub and deserve to lose. You don't deserve to make an impact. Season 2 snowball top meta was the best. Now too much bitchassness in top lane. I mostly play ADC because it.
Tl;dr: you're the type of player who makes league less fun to play.
The funny part about this conversation is that there are multiple ways in which one can win because league is a strategically complex game with multiple viable strategies.
