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In post 49, Kitz wrote:So what's 14:3:3:1?
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In post 49, Kitz wrote:So what's 14:3:3:1?
This is why post 49 felt odd to me. Kitz you make a comment on the setup like you know what it is. Then you come back with post 49. Can you explain this for me?- Skybird
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VOTE: kitz
I don't like the set-up posts and her response to my questions about it. Her use of makes it seem like she is trying to discourage questions/conversations or to cut off lines of questioning. Finally I didn't like 270 in response to lalaladuck's are you scum question.- Skybird
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In post 292, Cheetory6 wrote:
Still leaning that this vote is awkward in its justification.skybird wrote:Hi Silverwolf! Good to see you too.
Gotta do a little OMGUS!
Completely empty question. Seems like she might be trying to play up House's reputation: "I am so so very paranoid of this person this game wow golly look at me I am definitely town because I am genuinely paranoid rite guyz?"skybird wrote:So do you think House is scum this game?
No.skybird wrote:Cheetory, you don't like jokes?
Jokes are for COMEDIANS.
I want to say that it feels like sky not analyzing her own wagon comes across as her trying to ignore it until it goes away, but I'd be interested in discussing that with someone who might disagree/agree.
Of all things to go after, this seems easyyyyy. Though, the followup on this has a little bit of what seems like townparanoia to it:skybird wrote:This post makes me go hmmm. How many games have you played Kitz?
I think it's the fact that she's trying to figure out whether Kitz is doing what she's doing before labeling it as scummy.skybird wrote:Kitz, from your join date I would have thought that you knew what that meant. Just trying to figure out if you are scum trying to drop a fake towntell.
Tinfoilhatme is all like "but Cheetory scum can scumhunt in this game". You're right tinfoilhatme. Thanks for your input and for reminding me why I hate multiball .
Her switch to Kitz could be motivated by seeing how much hate the Housewagon is getting.
Overall, leaning scum, but not strongly.
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Cheetory, not sure if you want a response to this but I'm going to give you one anyway.
First, I've played with Silverwolf, House, and Dragonspawn at another site. FA_Q2 as well. Some of what looks weird to you is inside jokes.
Funny you say you don't like jokes. You definitely threw several out before you started scumhunting. Not sure why that is OK for you and not other people.
The wagon on me is an RVS wagon. Why would I get paranoid over the wagon or analyze it at this point?
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Cheetory, you did say your vote on me was serious in post 61. But you didn't try to engage me until post 292. And that post wasn't really talking to me as much as it was talking about me. I find that a weird way to scum hunt. I also find it silly for you to say you never joke and yet posts 22, 24, and 27 read as jokes to me, or posted in a joking manner at the very least. Are you lying or do you have a different definition of "joke"?- Skybird
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In post 404, Varsoon wrote:In post 403, Skybird wrote:Not liking post 402 by house.
Can you tell us what about it you don't like?
In post 408, dragonspawn wrote:In post 403, Skybird wrote:Not liking post 402 by house.
why not? It made sense to me. You can't be very useful to the town if you end up dead without contributing to the win.
In post 412, dragonspawn wrote:In post 409, House wrote:In post 408, dragonspawn wrote:In post 403, Skybird wrote:Not liking post 402 by house.
why not? It made sense to me. You can't be very useful to the town if you end up dead without contributing to the win.
She's used to my earlier games where I was apathetic to survival as town.
this post feels off. I was asking her and you answered. I've seen you flip out at people who answered questions you direct to others. And yet you felt the need to do so. Why? Why not let sky answer?
Varsoon and Dragon, it comes from how I approach the game. As town, I don't worry about being mislynched (at least I try to not worry!). I have even offered to be lynched in games where several players are scum reading me because at that point I am a distraction and I'd rather get lynched and let the town refocus on finding scum. Obviously if we are close to end game I will not be offering to be the sacrefical lamb. I dislike House's post because it feels like he is saying he is more important than other townies which is stupid because if I saw it, so did scum.
I do understand not wanting to die before you get a chance to contribute to the win. But to me you make sure that doesn't happen by being active in the game and giving reads as much as you can.
Dragon, I agree about house answering for me. He does get mad when people do that so it is concerning to me too.
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In post 478, Kitz wrote:In post 475, Skybird wrote:Kitz, to me your explanations for 14:3:3:1 are not convincing.
What's the motivation to fake being dumb on this particular matter regardless of faction?
The motivation is to appear to town by not knowing how many factions are involved in the game. At best you didn't read the rules because it clearly states: Scum win when their numbers equal or exceed that of the Town's, andall enemy anti-Town factions are dead.- Skybird
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In post 504, Egg wrote:
Skybird seems... more serious... since Cheet's case was posted. Not sure how I feel about that.
Skybird, I assume you've played with House considering where you came from. Would you really expect House to come into this game any differently as scum? Really? Abrasive and not giving a shit is just House. It's not just town House. It's House.
Don't worry, I won't be serious for the rest of the game.
Yes, I've played House at another site as well as here. House prides himself in playing the same style as town or scum. As I mentioned earlier, he beat me in lylo because I thought he was town. That was my last completed game with him. I voted him in RVS just to let him know that I would be keeping my eye on him.
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In post 517, SilverWolf wrote:Guys, I'm sick. So I'm probably going to be out the rest of the day. Will see about getting back to this tomorrow. Just an FYI.
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In post 536, Egg wrote:
Skybird, but didn't you say you were town reading him for the abrasive don't give a shit attitude? Or am I misremembering? Because if that's what you said, your meta on him (which matches mine by the way) contradicts that point.
Yes, I did say I was town reading him for being abrasive. I'm not sure about the last part of your sentence where you say my meta contradicts that point. I'm totally missing your point.- Skybird
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Egg, thanks I understand what you are asking now. Yes I was town reading house at that moment. I think I posted that after his 1st 5 posts. Since then, he has done something that really pisses him off when it happens to him. (answering a question directed towards another player) I don't think he's been back to explain why he did that. (I need to look to see if he did this.) Bottom line, right now I'm not inclined to lynch House day 1.- Skybird
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In post 644, Egg wrote:
Skybird. Hold up. Where did House answer someone else's question? Because yeah he does get pissed when people do that? Also, your read feels weird. Like you are looking for reasons not to lynch him but can't come up with any.
He does it in 409. The question was from Dragon to me.
Right now House doesn't concern me as much as other people. I know he's going to be a hard player for me to get a read on. Titus is another person I have a hard time getting a read on. For now, I haven't seen enough from either to feel comfortable putting them in one pile or another.
I'd like to see more pressure on Kitz because I'm still scum reading her. I've been following the Ozgin thing and frankly I'm leaning scum on him at the moment. I need to re-evaluate Dragon because he wasn't pinging my scumdar, but people have put up some solid points against him.
I'm going to be reading and evaluating this morning while I have the laundry going. I'll put up a fuller reads list soon.- Skybird
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In post 754, House wrote:In post 749, Taly wrote:
House only claimed 3 roles. From what I know of House, he usually doesn't fully claim in D1, or even if his claim I accurate. So, I question Houses credibility in his claim.
This is D1. Nobody has any idea what roles there are. Fake-claiming JoAT, regardless of the abilities claimed, would be idiotic for scum to do because it would be a simple matter for the real JoAT to counterclaim. Regardless of which one is lynched first, it results in outed scum.
It would be suicidal for scum to cripple themselves like that right out of the gate, and incredibly stupid for town to do so.
Since you admit it is stupid for either scum or town to claim like this, why did you do it? Are you claiming 3P?- Skybird
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Wow, this game is moving fast. Silverwolf is town. This looks like her town game. Other town reads: Egg, Cheet, Boon, Anen, Lalaladucks, Taly, Varsoon.
I'm leaning town on Titus, but she is hard for me to read. House is the same way.
TSO, FA, Drixx, and Aero haven't posted enough to even start to get a read.
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In post 991, Aneninen wrote:In post 984, Skybird wrote:Anen, look at the sample role pm. Are you saying the wording on your pm where the sample pm says Citizen is a different color?
No.
Why do you think Lala posted about light green then?
The way I read her post was the light green was the role title. Describing colors is very subjective and dependent on the person. So I take the whole "light green" "dark green" "some other green" issues with a grain of salt. How did you read lala's post?
In post 1001, Egg wrote:
Skybird, you said you have Boon as town. Do you have dragonspawn as town as well or is your Boon read a weak one?
Like House, I respect Dragon's game and ability. I'm pretty cautious about both of them. I do have a light town read on both Varsoon and Dragon due to the claim. Boon has been pretty townie in his posting. Nothing jumped out at me in his ISO that pinged my scumdar.- Skybird
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In post 1397, House wrote:In post 1395, Varsoon wrote:House, your strong-arm play puts a really sour taste in my mouth, but you'll also very likely be sorted out overnight.
What I'm not sure of is why you're wagoning Ozgin.
I'd like you to elaborate on that.
That's an easy one.
I'm sheeping Titus becauseI'm completely disinterested in d1 of larges.The only reason I care about the ducky wagon is because I hate seeing those I consider a friend get lynched over idiotic excuses.
And frankly, I don't give a damn what my play leaves in your mouth.
This statement seems at odds with your play earlier. You came into the game all determined to get someone in your hood lynched. I'd hardly call that disinterested.- Skybird
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In post 1709, lalaladucks wrote:Coolbeans
Only one kill? Successful protect or something?
How many scum do you think were on Ozgin's wagon
Anen, I'm still town if you're wondering
Ewww. As Anen already pointed out, he hadn't even posted yet in D2.
In post 1743, lalaladucks wrote:In post 1739, Prolapsed Brain wrote:Discussion != arguing.
Link to that game? (And what's a crossbar?)
P-Edit: Just the coaching, in tandem with your overall ditziness (for lack of a better word).
Also lol how did it take you >ten minutes to write this
Another icky post.
In post 1745, lalaladucks wrote:I'm just curious as to how his response to my question was a P-Edit when there were ten words before his response to me
Not saying it makes him scum or anything
lala is not even pressured here and immediately backs off of PB.
In post 1756, lalaladucks wrote:The "No." was because you're wrong about me being scum and me being a fantastic vote.
Great lala, you claim you are not scum. How about refuting things/explaining instead of just saying you are not scum.
In post 1772, lalaladucks wrote:In post 1769, dragonspawn wrote:Surprised it's taken so long for someone to question me on me.
In post 1525, SilverWolf wrote:Do you guys want more discussion and a chance for Oz to speak again before the day ends?
In post 1535, SilverWolf wrote:I have no objections to the hammer.
These two posts pinged me hard at the end of the day. This is not town wolf. Town wolf careful about lynching. She doesn't rush them. And she wouldn't be asking whether we should let him speak.again, she would.be insisting he claim before we hammer.
But she isn't. She is almost eager for the Hammer. Even odder considering she wasn't scum reading ozgin at the time.
And now she completely ignores my vote with her while posting an in-depth analysis of varsoon. Yeah this isnt feeling right at all.
yay someone sees what I mean when I say SW gives me scum vibes
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In post 1791, Skybird wrote:
In post 1709, lalaladucks wrote:Coolbeans
Only one kill? Successful protect or something?
How many scum do you think were on Ozgin's wagon
Anen, I'm still town if you're wondering
Ewww. As Anen already pointed out, he hadn't even posted yet in D2.
In post 1743, lalaladucks wrote:In post 1739, Prolapsed Brain wrote:Discussion != arguing.
Link to that game? (And what's a crossbar?)
P-Edit: Just the coaching, in tandem with your overall ditziness (for lack of a better word).
Also lol how did it take you >ten minutes to write this
Another icky post.
In post 1745, lalaladucks wrote:I'm just curious as to how his response to my question was a P-Edit when there were ten words before his response to me
Not saying it makes him scum or anything
lala is not even pressured here and immediately backs off of PB.
In post 1756, lalaladucks wrote:The "No." was because you're wrong about me being scum and me being a fantastic vote.
Great lala, you claim you are not scum. How about refuting things/explaining instead of just saying you are not scum.
In post 1772, lalaladucks wrote:In post 1769, dragonspawn wrote:Surprised it's taken so long for someone to question me on me.
In post 1525, SilverWolf wrote:Do you guys want more discussion and a chance for Oz to speak again before the day ends?
In post 1535, SilverWolf wrote:I have no objections to the hammer.
These two posts pinged me hard at the end of the day. This is not town wolf. Town wolf careful about lynching. She doesn't rush them. And she wouldn't be asking whether we should let him speak.again, she would.be insisting he claim before we hammer.
But she isn't. She is almost eager for the Hammer. Even odder considering she wasn't scum reading ozgin at the time.
And now she completely ignores my vote with her while posting an in-depth analysis of varsoon. Yeah this isnt feeling right at all.
yay someone sees what I mean when I say SW gives me scum vibes
Where did you make a case for scum SW on D1?
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In my experience with Titus, after she tunnels someone who flips town, she usually comes back and talks about resetting her reads to figure out where she went wrong. While I have seen her get emotional about being read as scum when she is town, I don't believe I've ever seen it to this extent.
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