Micro 500: The Luck of the Draw (Game Over)

Wisdom · Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:53 am

In post 10, gameplay506 wrote:Omg no I was thinking of voting Wisdom 'cus this guy is too dangerous for real

do I know you?

Wisdom · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:54 am

In post 21, gameplay506 wrote:You discarded Mafia goon ffs. Who doesn't want to be maf

Meaning you picked mafia then?

Wisdom · Post Post #31 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:56 am

VOTE: gameplay

L-2

Wisdom · Post Post #38 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:01 am

Why did you discard Jailkeeper?

Wisdom · Post Post #44 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:12 am

VOTE: grey

Wisdom · Post Post #53 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:23 am

In post 47, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Doctor is boring. I'm not mafia though. I would love to lolhammer this but if he flips town...well you know.

How is doctor boring?

Wisdom · Post Post #54 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:23 am

did you really just hammer?

Wisdom · Post Post #60 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:43 am

Kaboose vote Grey please

Wisdom · Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:44 am

For being scum

Wisdom · Post Post #68 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:52 am

Im not sure about game, the guy might just really not like jailkeeper for some reason.

But Grey is scum

Wisdom · Post Post #71 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:54 am

That made absolutely no sense

Wisdom · Post Post #73 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:05 am

There are multiple scum factions, plus I don't really think Game is scum anymore

Wisdom · Post Post #75 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:25 am

The way he posted felt like he was telling the truth about his choices and his reasons behind them

Wisdom · Post Post #80 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:34 am

Guys you do know there are multiple scum factions, right? Mafia, Werewolves, third parties..?

Wisdom · Post Post #106 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:23 am

I don't think Gray and game are partners, this discussion is silly

Wisdom · Post Post #110 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:29 am

Because you look like scum.

You are focusing on someone partnering you with someone else when it's pointless.

Wisdom · Post Post #111 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:31 am

And no, discarding the doc is not something I'll just forget. It would be one thing if you were like "i had better choices", but calling the doctor a "boring" role is bullshit.

Wisdom · Post Post #113 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:37 am

In post 50, Kaboose wrote:But you're his partner I think. Especially with that soft defence you just gave him.

Looking back, this was quite a stretch. What soft defence were you talking about?

Wisdom · Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:42 am

You are scumreading someone just because he is calling you scum with someone else.

Wisdom · Post Post #118 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:52 am

Bad logic doesn't equal scum in any way.

Wisdom · Post Post #120 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:56 am

Uh, no. Town follow bad logic all the time.

Wisdom · Post Post #122 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:02 am

It's not a town tell. Ugh, this is tiring. Can you play some games and get some experience before you start talking in absolutes?

Wisdom · Post Post #125 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:11 am

Bad logic is bad logic. It's not indicative of town or scum. You are trying to argue it indicates scum when it doesn't, because town also follow bad logic all the time.

Clearer?

Wisdom · Post Post #128 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:15 am

Mewthree and Lucky haven't

Wisdom · Post Post #132 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:25 am

In post 129, GrayFoxxxx wrote:The wiki RECOMMENDS it.

ok then you must be right

Wisdom · Post Post #135 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:29 am

Sorry I don't feel like discussing theory with you, especially given you're scum anyway

Wisdom · Post Post #142 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:41 am

How is Kop scummy?

Wisdom · Post Post #152 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:05 am

hi guyett

Wisdom · Post Post #156 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:09 am

yeah guyett proposes that thing every time yet it never helps.

It will help even less in this game given there were multiple cards to choose alignment from - say for example that scum had a town card and a scum card for alignment - they're gonna safely claim the town one as their alignment, knowing nobody else had it.

Wisdom · Post Post #161 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:19 am

You're actually right about Kop, all he has talked about is theory

Wisdom · Post Post #163 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:22 am

What's your read on Gray?

Wisdom · Post Post #174 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:44 am

In post 169, Kaboose wrote:
Says everyone should want mafia, says he wanted mafia, says he tried to get WW. Then discards to me what is a helpful town role. How many scum claims do you need?

I don't get it, why couldn't he be telling the truth about it? Gets a ww card and four town cards, wants to be ww, so selects ww and town as alignment and gets town.

Wisdom · Post Post #177 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:45 am

That has nothing to do with doc?

Wisdom · Post Post #184 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:09 am

VOTE: kop

Wisdom · Post Post #201 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:25 pm

What about the discarded doctor?

Wisdom · Post Post #203 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:15 pm

I was talking about alignment there, not role

Wisdom · Post Post #220 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:49 am

Kaboose, discards are a great place to start, they are not an absolute scum indicator.

Both of them have posted plenty, don't you have something other than the discards at this point?

Wisdom · Post Post #229 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:01 am

In post 221, Kaboose wrote:or were you the one in that game who was allowed to edit posts?

this
GIF modded it

Wisdom · Post Post #235 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:05 am

In post 233, Kaboose wrote:
In post 229, Wisdom wrote:
In post 221, Kaboose wrote:or were you the one in that game who was allowed to edit posts?

this
GIF modded it

Was there a point to that?

Wisdom · Post Post #261 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:55 am

In post 256, gameplay506 wrote:Actually I might switch to Kop or Mew because I am not really sure if you are just VI'ish or scum. Anyway you are anti-town and I wouldn't want you late game at all but for a day 1 lynch I think there might be better candidates.

This is where I'm at too, I don't think Kaboose would be playing like that were he scum. He's prolly just town

Wisdom · Post Post #271 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:14 am

I'd love some votes on Kop. His last post is just doubtcasting because he doesn't want people to townread Kaboose.

Wisdom · Post Post #286 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:44 am

In post 283, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Kap was questioning Wisdom odd reasoning the whole post.

No, he wasn't questioning me. He was just trying to go "noo, you shouldn't not think he is scum because of this" which is doubtcasting.

Wisdom · Post Post #296 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:25 am

In post 294, GrayFoxxxx wrote:He questioned wisdoms defense of you,

Where the fuck do you see questioning?

Wisdom · Post Post #297 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:26 am

It's literally "No, your argument is bad, he might be playing this way exactly so you think he isn't scum". He is nowhere looking for my motives for defending him or anything like that.

Wisdom · Post Post #301 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:54 am

Doubting, yes, questioning, no

Wisdom · Post Post #305 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:17 am

In post 303, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 297, Wisdom wrote:It's literally "No, your argument is bad, he might be playing this way exactly so you think he isn't scum". He is nowhere looking for my motives for defending him or anything like that.

Your silence admits that this post is BS

Questioning means asking questions, trying to figure out things. He's not doing that.

Wisdom · Post Post #314 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:17 am

In post 311, Salamence20 wrote:Kop: Wisdom
Kop: Game, Kaboose

wat

are there 2 kops?

Wisdom · Post Post #355 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:46 am

In post 350, gameplay506 wrote:Kaboose just stop.

Wisdom · Post Post #373 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:36 am

Congratulations, you just ensured we're lynching town

Wisdom · Post Post #375 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:37 am

also are you for fucking real? You had an ascetic modifier and you didn't go for doctor?

Wisdom · Post Post #378 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:41 am

VOTE: gray

Not because you're scum, but because you clearly can't make proper use of your role. And Kaboose is bound to have something better, so

Wisdom · Post Post #381 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:01 am

Typically you can't no-lynch after a gladiate

Wisdom · Post Post #388 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:13 am

In post 386, gameplay506 wrote:The VI wars

lol that's a pretty good caption for this

Wisdom · Post Post #389 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:14 am

and yeah they're both town

so let's just vote the one now confirmed to be useless

Wisdom · Post Post #391 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:15 am

OH LOL

Wisdom · Post Post #393 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:22 am

Well me too but Gray fucked that up.

Technically gray is not conftown either, but yeah it would be stupid to use a scum gladiator like this.

Wisdom · Post Post #395 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:43 am

what do you mean vanilla townie janitor? If you're a janitor, you're not vanilla

Wisdom · Post Post #397 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:47 am

oh. Then why do you want to be lynched if you're not negative utility?

Wisdom · Post Post #401 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:56 am

vi wars indeed

I never imagined i would be pondering over which vt it's better to lynch

Wisdom · Post Post #408 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:46 am

no it wont force scum to do shit. They can vote any of you and they don't even need to explain themselves. It was stupid.

Wisdom · Post Post #412 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:35 am

kop, aronis, mewthree, lucky

the scum are in there, the rest are town

Wisdom · Post Post #421 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:23 pm

you are very good at this game

Wisdom · Post Post #423 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:24 pm

And you can't even comprehend, apparently. You were saying Kop questioned me, when he never did anything of the sort.

Wisdom · Post Post #434 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:09 pm

shit, scum doublevoter

which we could have lynched today :/

Wisdom · Post Post #440 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:48 pm

Both wagons are L-1 now

Wisdom · Post Post #456 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:44 pm

I don't have anything to do with you, why?

Wisdom · Post Post #460 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:55 pm

dude it was obvious both of you are town, how the fuck VCA applies here?

Wisdom · Post Post #461 (isolation #68) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:00 am

In post 459, Kaboose wrote:
In post 456, Wisdom wrote:I don't have anything to do with you, why?

How do you know that?

Because I know my role?

Wisdom · Post Post #464 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:11 am

Why? This was not a normal wagon in a normal game. It was a wagon on one of two dueled people, which we all knew is flipping town. VCA simply does not apply here.

Wisdom · Post Post #465 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:12 am

Also yes, but first I want to hear what gameplay means, because there's no way my role has anything to do with his.

Wisdom · Post Post #470 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:29 am

I don't though, so do explain

Wisdom · Post Post #474 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:31 am

Do you have a result that says I am mafia/ww?

Wisdom · Post Post #476 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:32 am

Because if so, it's reversed

Wisdom · Post Post #478 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:34 am

Unless you outright claim a result, there's nothing to explain

Wisdom · Post Post #480 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:37 am

then explain how you "know" that?

Wisdom · Post Post #481 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:41 am

Anyhow, I'm a Psychotrooper, and while i'm alive all cop results are reversed

Wisdom · Post Post #483 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:50 am

I didn't think that's what he meant, because how would he know I have something that could have affected his result?

Wisdom · Post Post #486 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:56 am

My cards were Survivor Psychotrooper, Roleblocker, Werewolf, Clairvoyant and Fruit Vendor - all of the roles are bullshit for town so I hoped I would get WW with either Psychotrooper or Roleblocker. I got town Psychotrooper instead.

Wisdom · Post Post #488 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:33 am

im not sure whether mewthree's or lucky's ISO is worse

They're both awful

Wisdom · Post Post #489 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:36 am

In post 487, gameplay506 wrote:In a micro game like this when there are ww and mafia how many ww and how many maf should there be?

There can maximum be 4 scum because town needs to have majority at the beginning. That's the only restriction.

Wisdom · Post Post #490 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:41 am

VOTE: mewthree

Wisdom · Post Post #492 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:52 am

what do you mean by coincidence?

And why were you asking me if I have a role related to you?

Wisdom · Post Post #495 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:36 am

Mewthree and lucky

Wisdom · Post Post #534 (isolation #84) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:53 am

Lucky why are you voting me?

I agree you should all claim.

Wisdom · Post Post #536 (isolation #85) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:59 am

So far we have

Kaboose - VT
Mewthree - Roleblocker
Wisdom - Psychotrooper
Lucky - Babysitter

Ok do basically Mala and Gameplay need to specify what they are.

Wisdom · Post Post #537 (isolation #86) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:01 am

I don't understand why a babysitter would protect a VT. I also don't understand why a roleblocker would block Kaboose of all people. Both claims suck.

Wisdom · Post Post #545 (isolation #87) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:15 am

Oh, forgot about modifiers. Probably because I don't have one

Wisdom · Post Post #552 (isolation #88) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:22 am

Still good with Mewthree being lynched.

Also I know selfmeta and all, but I don't recall ever letting a buddy do the kill instead of doing it myself, especially n1

Wisdom · Post Post #555 (isolation #89) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:24 am

I don't mean it as a trust tell

Wisdom · Post Post #557 (isolation #90) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:25 am

Gameplay, target Kaboose tonight and see what you get so you confirm I'm pdychotrooper. Or yourself if possible.

Wisdom · Post Post #560 (isolation #91) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:30 am

Because kaboose is almost certainly town so if you get scum on him it will prove results are reversed

Yourself would be even better because you know your alignment.

That's if you really need to confirm of course, otherwise it would be better used on someone like lucky.

Wisdom · Post Post #562 (isolation #92) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:34 am

uh you just know that the reverse of what you get is true

Wisdom · Post Post #564 (isolation #93) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:37 am

Again, it's confirmable

Wisdom · Post Post #567 (isolation #94) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:39 am

Mala claimed jailkeeper

Wisdom · Post Post #573 (isolation #95) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:46 am

I can be confirmed, mew can't.

Also, there were supposedly three protective roles yet two kills happened. There's no fucking way all of them are claiming truthfully.

Wisdom · Post Post #579 (isolation #96) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:58 am

Lucky claimed those already

Wisdom · Post Post #589 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:18 pm

I was waiting to say you mod error'd about the result on me, but he was a cop after all.

Good game!

Wisdom · Post Post #593 (isolation #98) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:19 am

But I wasn't mafia :/