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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:43 am

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ultra-conservatives are a fickle bunch (and truth be told I don't think they're so much ultra-conservative as they are anti-establishment honestly). In 2012 over the course of 3-4 months they "chose" a bunch of different champions: Santorum, Cain, Bachman, Gingrich...

We're 7 months before the first caucus. People are mostly indicating based on their feelings of discontent than they are any serious evaluation. Things will change between now and then. I'll bet anyone who wants to that Trump will not win a single state in the primaries. Heck, I'll say Trump doesn't even finish with over 30% in any state.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:54 am

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I'll make both bets!
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:56 am

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Done. One month after he gets 30% in a single state (or if he wins a state with less than 30%), I'll set my avatar to Trump (let's not include territories here as who knows what the 8 republicans in the virgin islands will vote) for a month. If he doesn't achieve that threshold, after the 50th state votes in the republican primary, you set your avatar to the democratic nominee for a month. Fair?
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:06 am

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Fair!
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:06 am

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Now I'm suddenly doubting my faith in Donald.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:04 pm

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:05 pm

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Can Sanders/Warren be a thing please.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:06 pm

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I hope not. If Warren is but not on Clinton's ticket, she should be the headliner.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:07 pm

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Just an odd political note, if Joe Biden decides not to run for President, it will be the first time since 1929(Curtis and Dawes), two consecutive vice presidents have not announced a presidential run after their vice presidency.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:09 pm

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In post 182, zoraster wrote:I hope not. If Warren is but not on Clinton's ticket, she should be the headliner.

No no we get sanders now, for 8 years

and then clinton will be too old and Warren won't be and she'll be even more awesome and then we can have Warren, and SIXTEEN YEARS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:10 pm

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yeah. no.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:10 pm

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In post 181, chesskid3 wrote:Can Sanders/Warren be a thing please.


Some combination of Sanders/Webb could be interesting against something like Kasich/Walker. Don't think any of those will come true, but I would enjoy watching an election season with those two pairs unfold
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:11 pm

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Ok but yes.

I'm sick of moderate democrats.

Pedit: Kasich is not happening lol.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:13 pm

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I think Clinton is too much of a product of Washington to have a female running mate. She will want a male running mate to help with the male vote. Probably a rising star like Al Gore was for her husband. Probably a governer. Maybe Hawaii's David Ige? He would help with the minority vote and male vote.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:16 pm

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Depends on if she thinks she needs to attract moderates or pull the harder liberals to the polls, I think
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:19 pm

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I don't think she needs a moderate running mate, the Clinton's are already known as political moderates.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:20 pm

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Don't ask don't tell was disgusting.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:24 pm

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I would say Ohio or Florida's governors since they are key swing states, but they are both GOP. If she wants a swing state VP, Virginia's Terry McAuliffe, or Montana's Steve Bullock might be a possibility.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:31 pm

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they're known as that now, but the republican party will do their best to paint her as a CRAZEH LIBERUL because that's how you win elections 98% of the time nowadays
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:33 pm

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Hillary Clinton/Rick Scott
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:36 pm

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In post 192, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Florida's governors

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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:39 pm

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Clinton/Jeb!
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:41 pm

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hillary's strategy is not to appear as a moderate but to motivate liberal turnout;
it'll be a person of color or a very popular progressive liberal
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:46 pm

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Well, she might have been conflicted before, because her position is kinda straddling both the left and the centre - she's to the right of left, but to the left of centre. But with Trump pushing the Conservative debate to the right, the centre is more open to her, so she'll probably go for a hard-lefter, just to get that side of the spectrum out to vote at all.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:59 pm

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In post 171, T S O wrote:When someone is leading the field by double figures it's usually a sign you should take them seriously.


This early the polls are way too fickle to tell. Last year literally everyone BUT Romney was the frontrunner until they weren't.
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