Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[Salamence20]

Im not rereading this until Wednesday.

Also, thank god Im town in this game. I was scum in the last zodiac mafia, and not only is it luck based, but fuck I seem to be having a scum slump since I came back.

Ill be back.

(Also hi Mainez, I missed you And I want to play games with you and I really hope you are town because we never lose when we are the same alignment <3)

[Salamence20]

Oh metal sonic is here too!

Hihi!

Elusive: No.

[Salamence20]

@sala
hi mate, it's been awhile! sadly, i'm not townreading your slot.

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hermit is so scummy gaaaaaaah

Im going to change that soon

[Salamence20]

RC, Im going to be LA this week, Im going to catchup today though for sure, but my time will be extremely limited. This is my first priority however.

[Salamence20]

Im reading now.

[Salamence20]

Also, just wanna say due to the swingyness of this game, its 10:2 because I was scum in Zodiac 1, I doubt he would change it in 2, and Im the Future co-mod of Zodiac 3

Fixed link

[Salamence20]

Pg. 1-5

Town: Marquis
Null: All
Scum: KayP, Start

PG. 5-11

Town: Marquis, lane, Elusive/Mainez
Null: ALL
Scum: KayP, Start, Elusive/Mainez

[Salamence20]

Elusive is town, I screwed up. I don't think this is fake.

So:

Town: Marquis, lane, Elusive
Null: ALL
Scum: KayP, Start, Mainez

[Salamence20]

Pg. 12 - 15

Town: Marquis, lane, Elusive, Ricastle
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez

[Salamence20]

PG. 16-20

Town: Marquis, Elusive, Ricastle
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal,

[Salamence20]

I should mention Ill explain my readings after Im caught up

[Salamence20]

PG. 21-27

Town: Marquis, Elusive
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal

Metal has claimed town so much he has reached zMuffinman levels of scum btw

[Salamence20]

Pg. 28 - 40

Town: Elusive, Ricastle, Constantine (VI)
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal

Ugh, the threat to my life is going to force me to actually try playing the game. Right now I am slightly suspicious towards Lane because of some gut stuff. I am concerned about Massive, because that MOFO is an unreadable beast. I am scared half to death of that devil spawn.

On the other hand, I would be cool PL'ing farside22 or ricastle, becus I am afraid some sort of toxic argument will happen that will ruin the game.

Everyone else is town, bcus null reads are the stupidest thing since bottled air.

Excuse me?
Who the fuck do you think you are.

Also, St. is a Town VI. Deal with it.

This is fucking funny.

[Salamence20]

Pg. 41-43

Town: Elusive, Ricastle, Constantine (VI)
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal

ACTUALLY YOU ALL ARE MORONS AND JACKASSES FOR THAT SWINGY WAGON IN DEADLINE BULLSHIT.

MAINEZ/METAL NEED ROPE AND IF IM WRONG ON BOTH (IM NOT) CONSTANTINE CAN DIE AND WE BLAME HIM FOR GAME THROWING.

RIC IS TOWN.

[Salamence20]

I've seen enough.

VOTE: MS

He has scumslipped multiple times with this obvtowning of Constantine, that soft separation from guilt of Nachowagon, and saying hes town.

I'm still reading, but I doubt this changes.

[Salamence20]

PG. 21-27

Town: Marquis, Elusive
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal

Metal has claimed town so much he has reached zMuffinman levels of scum btw

44-49

Town: Elusive, Ricastle, Constantine (VI)
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal

Its Start/MS, if not Mainez and/or Constantine in that equation too.

[Salamence20]

50-55

Town: Elusive, Ricastle*, Constantine (VI), lane
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal

That Ricastle vote was bad though. Really bad.

RICASTLE/MAINEZ/MASSIVE

METAL SONIC IS NOT SCUM

I'll quote this for when MS Flips scum.

Also, dat farside fortunate kill. Who wants to bet that she got the scum no-kill tonight or the Dayvig lol.

[Salamence20]

All caught up!

Town: Elusive, Ricastle*, Constantine (VI), lane
Null: ALL
Scum: Start, Mainez, Metal, massive

How does it go?

Salamence/Elusive - Consider them conftown

Lane - Seems townie enough.
Constantine - VI that could be anything really. I'm a sucker for AtE though, but that's the kind of play I would do as noobscum.
Massive/Ricastle - Ric should be higher, but that vote on Nacho is terribad. Massive hasn't pinged me much either way

Mainez - Looks and plays nothing like Hardcore or Boonskiies mini
Start - Boring lurking fluff scum is scum
Metal Sonic - Worse than start, playing really scummy, and buddying to elusive.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: startfromtheheart
Please change your avatar back.

BUSBUSBUSBUSBUSBUSBUS

[Salamence20]

Ric, why did you vote nacho?

[Salamence20]

And would you like to avenge yourself on MS?

[Salamence20]

Aronis joins the confirmed town group. Would still lynch Ricastle/massive with impunity tomorrow.

Oh hey so am I. So whatever.

Nacho isnt a god, hes not perfect. I dont think Ricastle is scum.

Also, if you were so willing to follow his reads, idk why you seemingly random voted Bert earlier today.

Cry some more, scum who wants to hide behind the dead corpse of nacho.

[Salamence20]

Nachomamma8,

Townie

, was lynched on D2.

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Final Day 2 Vote Count

• Nachomamma8 (6) ( St Constantine the Hermit -
  farside22
  - lane0168 - startfromtheheart - Ricastle - Aronis)

Pay attention to this votecount here. There is no possible way that this is an all town wagon. (chance of this being all-town: negligible)

Farside is confirmed town.

I am having a strong townread on hermit, while Nachomamma expressed a strong townread on Aronis at time of his death. This leaves lane, start, and Ricastle as the null/scum reads remaining on the wagon. It is highly likely (>90%) that there is at least 1 scum among these three players. There is an off chance that Constantine or Aronis is scum, but I find this to be unlikely. Because of this, I urge the town to focus the lynch onto one of these three players, reread them, and arm ourselves.

Currently, with no scum being lynched, let's assume there are three scum remaining. 9 Players alive, that means that there are 6 town remaining. 5 to lynch. If scum don't bus, this means that all town minus one are needed to lynch scum at this juncture. This emphasizes the urgency to consolidate to a decision and reconcile our reads.

Btw, Im calling this fake VCA.

[Salamence20]

<3 elusive

i agree with elusive('s explanation for her vote on tammy)

thanks elusive

science and progress!

hey elusive i just spent 5 hours making my nice wiki which is a heavenly paradise for meta divers

please be invited

Kayp, mainez, elusive, hearty all town

Tammy can be town but doubt there

Good exchange. Alignment indicative.

VOTE: ricastle

I also think that nacho could be scum.

Startfromtheheart can give bert a run for his money. Or is he a Bert alt?

Yeah, he's Bert's alt.

Yup! I played against nacho on this account two years ago, but it has been dormant for the past year

Startfromtheheart has been a public alt ever since it was born in 2013. It made sense for this game given its born date aka join the world date. Zodiac game and all.

Berty! <3

elusive, I just finished a scum game with KayP. She looks town here.

Elusive looks town here, the votes on her are bad

Ric is scummy

Elusive does not have a dick

Elusive is not obvscum

Ricastle is obv scum

I'm town

Believe me bby

Oh, I am obviously, town

Ricastle is just asking dumb questions like a scummy scumbag

mmmmmm

You can't catch me as scum day 1 nacho... No one can

I'm town. Lynching me day 1 always results in a town flip....

My fellow town friends

Please defend me from this foul tragedy!!

It is the act of pure evil to day 1 lynch ms!!

I will also link Over The Garden Wall

Both games I was obvi town and both got lynched day 1, ironically both were ongoing at the same time

don't mess with the mafia mum!!!

not even you, elusive ^_^

There's this game called Naughty Bear. U should look it up, bro. What happens to the bears that don't invite Maleficient..I mean Naughty Bear to the party....

Metal Sonic - my love is creepy...do you got issues? What are your reads little metallic thingy?

Yeah, I am wondering why you love Ricastle and not me. I'm jealous.


I am still unsure who is scum, but I am sure about some reads:

Elusive is town
Constantine is town

I declare my love for elusive

VOTE: ricastle

im town

me and elusive are town buddies

Every post that includes buddying of Elusive and calling himself town.

[Salamence20]

Would town really say that hes town over and over again? Youre not a noob.

[Salamence20]

i'd be fucking surprised if elusive even flips scum

Why?

Who is scum and why metal

@nacho: it was more the kayp replacing out.

Here is my issue with nacho this game. I get being busy and behind but when he comes in instead of giving thoughts or reads like I'd expect he just votes whoever. The vote for self reads fake.

Metal is being too quiet for my taste, yea my read on him is metaish but he still reads as scum.
Mainez would be 3rd on my scum list. Mostly POE.

I'm not attacking anyone.

Voting start.
Maybe not an attack but the vote for day 2 is weak.
We are way past lol rvs crap.

When I read mainez posts I read it in her voice

Her voice sounds like omg how dare you point out I have switched my vote, I'm looking to vote you for doing that.

Vote: metal

Last time I replaced in a game, following a dead Farside read led me to destroying scum.

I believe in this alot more than I do Nachos read IMO.

I just think your fake, and your discredits by telling me to fuck off make me think youre scum

[Salamence20]

Would town really say that hes town over and over again? Youre not a noob.

Umm that's entirely play style dependent? You're not a noob.

Other than Zmuff, who says they're town as town besides noobs?

(He has done it as both alignments, but mainly scum)

[Salamence20]

So you seem to be ignoring farisde reading ricastle as scum, why?

Because I feel Ricastle may be town based on his reactions, but his nacho vote.......

Would town really say that hes town over and over again? Youre not a noob.

Umm that's entirely play style dependent? You're not a noob.

Other than Zmuff, who says they're town as town besides noobs?

(He has done it as both alignments, but mainly scum)

Umm ETL came to my mind immediately

Eh, good note, all 3 of us are fucking powerful as scum. I sincerely doubt that you'd be able to catch any of us for realz

But I just caught you.

[Salamence20]

Thanks for also conceding that you can't do anything against ETL and muffina though

Fuck etl.

I would have gotten muffin in Alice3 if it wasnt for replacing into a lolscum slot.

Would you vote Start?

[Salamence20]

Ok, im going to wait on the others and hear their thoughts

[Salamence20]

To be fair you are right that spamming " I'm town" is a scum tell. Good work on that.

Except that this is barely the frequency that I do it when I'm scum lol. If you have time go read the TM night less and compare the spam

I know its a scum tell because I do it alot as scum and I know Zmuff does it more as scum.

[Salamence20]

Lynching town is a bad compromise m8

Lynching you is an effective compromise

[Salamence20]

Salamence, you should probably vote before you go V/LA, as deadline is in 5 days. You have scumreads, and you have support for the ones you choose (outside Sonic).

Lane and Salamence, the metal wagon is not going to happen. I will not vote there. Vote elsewhere -your other scumread(s).

Hermit, the elusive wagon is not going to happen either. Compromise if needed.

It really should come down to voting me or Ricastle. (Maybe Mainez, but that's a real long shot. Same with Massive. So yeah, start or Ricastle). But yeah, no frantic end like day 1 resulting in a no lynch please! <3

VOTE: Start

(You know, theres a sad part of me that worries that this may be Merry Mafia all over again with me townreading a scum and me scumreading a townplayer -MS- and that worries me). The good news is though if MS is scum, then I can blame all of you.

[Salamence20]

If this was the case Switch Lane over Sonic

[Salamence20]

Hey, I just had a thought...did scum have daytalk in the last Zodiac? Because if not, that's a good case for scum picking the Neighborizer on D1.

We did not.

yea so salamence is obvtown

This doesnt help me think better about you.

[Salamence20]

I don't see alot of action going.

Lets go people, I'm not going to let you fuckers lurk and force a lollynch.

[Salamence20]

Then vote Start because if I cant get MS, then you don't get Ric

[Salamence20]

CONSTANTINE YOU FUCK

I SEE YOU

NOW VOTE!!!!!

[Salamence20]

No vote Mainez really?

[Salamence20]

IM WAITING BITCHES.

I SEE YOU

[Salamence20]

Im the bitch who is town, and such wants results.

NOW LETS SEE SOME FLIPS AND STOP LURKING

[Salamence20]

Elusive is avoiding the thread.
We havent heard from Mainez in forever (and I mean actual thoughts and stuff)
Lane? Constantine?

[Salamence20]

EXCUSE YOU

I'm not avoiding the thread, this game is laggard asf.

We can't get people on the right lynch.

SO yeah.

Help me boost it.

Will you vote start?

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Mainez

[Salamence20]

Ricastle is going to flip town and Sonic/Mainez/Lane/Constantine are the ones to blame.

[Salamence20]

thats what you said about bookitty

You have my permission to lynch me tomorrow if he flips scum.

Why not Mainez, we both agree he start vote looked bad right?

[Salamence20]

Also berts playing a good scumgame if he is scum i guess

[Salamence20]

VOTE: massive

actually no. sally. we must lynch within lane/ric/start today.

make the logical move here. theres scum on the nacho mislynch 100% and those 3 are the ccandidates

VOTE: ricastle

lane/ric/start

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Metal Sonic

[Salamence20]

Now would be a good time for you to blow that dayvig before it goes to waste

[Salamence20]

Why are you flailing?

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Mainez

L-2, make it L1 please

[Salamence20]

If youre town like youre preaching, and Lately Bert has been looking alot better, I think this is going to flip scum

[Salamence20]

VOTE: mainez

Also berts playing a good scumgame if he is scum i guess

im playing horribly regardless of my alignment ------>

like, half the players are willing to vote me, saying they think im scum. the other half doesnt really townread me or care if im lynched.

Like, I think bertscum wouldnt be this cheeky.

[Salamence20]

Bert can you hammer?

[Salamence20]

Im not a fan of waiting 2 days for Mainez to post some mediocre bullshit reasoning for town

[Salamence20]

Thats sad if true. I liked her, she could have been more competent had she counterclaimed JK in out last game, and I enjoyed playing with her in the Marathons.

However, I dont think she is town, given that Bert is starting to lean town on me

[Salamence20]

Nothing, I think you admission of bad play makes you look townier that earlier.

[Salamence20]

Im thinking Mainez/Massive/Lane/Sonic

So lolyolo

P-Edit: Oh fuck off all of you, hammer this bitch because we arent going to get Ric or MS because compromise.

[Salamence20]

If Mainez is scum - Massive/Lane
If Mainez is town - Sonic/Start and/or Constantine

[Salamence20]

Still think ric is town.

[Salamence20]

Im also hoping Farside got the Night-Killstop ability, and that Red leads the stars to me and I get my gun

[Salamence20]

Massive lane and or Ric are good buddy choices bert

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Metal

I FUCKING KNEW IT

[Salamence20]

If someone had a vest, dont claim it

[Salamence20]

Farside got the "Mafia cant kill" fortune

[Salamence20]

No, its during the next night phase

[Salamence20]

Actually its either Metal or Lane.

Pretty sure Massive and Start are town
Elusive is town.
Fuck contantine

[Salamence20]

All that has been and all that will be is here for you to know. Dare you glimpse the future? Dare you even ask...?

Day 3's Fortunate Horoscope Recipient (6)

farside22 -- Libra

Day 3's Unfortunate Horoscope Recipient (9)

Metal Sonic -- Scorpio

These two players will receive horoscopes via PM in preparation for the next day phase.

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Scorpio + Libra

Water + Air = Rain

This is a pretty dynamic partnership - Mars, Pluto and Venus combine to create one of the more passionate love matches of the zodiac. These are the ruling planets for both star signs, and are the male/female planets that typify love in astrological folklore.

You'll be extremely attracted to sensual Libra, and they'll react nicely to the hot-blooded Scorpio temperament. You'll have a few striking differences to overcome, though. Libra might like a rather open-ended social and romantic arrangement, so your possessive and demanding attitude could be too limiting for them.

Your overprotective and jealous streak is something they're not going to get over: at some point, even if you think they're dealing with it, you'll be in for a rude awakening. They'll need to dig deep into their arsenal of diplomatic weaponry to get around your bossiness and inflexibility.

Libra is an air element, and air represents their personality. This means they will be intrigued by your fascination with the mystery of human nature and life in general, and will get close to you on a level that other star signs may not be able to reach. This will help you both in terms of your communication and intellectual understanding of each other.

Um Metal did you claim Jailed?

[Salamence20]

We have PoE lynches.

We could get Lane.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: massive

Gg I guess

[Salamence20]

Scum will never win this game. RC should find a way to buff scum next game

[Salamence20]

It was N4 last night.

No it wasnt

[Salamence20]

Metal probably no killed or couldnt kill.

You decide

[Salamence20]

Umm doesnt that mean massive is scum since RC confirmed MS?

[Salamence20]

Also Im sorry Im stupid sonic

[Salamence20]

Also unless there are 3 scum, this game is over

[Salamence20]

Also Im sorry Im stupid sonic

read my town tells next time buddy

Fair enough.

Atleast I stopped you dumbasses from lynching obvtown Ricastle.

VOTE: Massive

[Salamence20]

:/

[Salamence20]

Well, that was a shitty way to lose, without even getting a post in in my defense.

You probably could have gotten away without bussing Mainez

[Salamence20]

The way you were flailing around, we probably would have ended up with constantine lol

Also, why Constantine over Sonic?

[Salamence20]

Attention all town:


please place your votes between: start, ricastle, lane today.


my deductive analysis shows that there is at least 1 scum within these three. let''s consolidate and work together. please. thanks.

Oh yeah, this

[Salamence20]

No worries, didnt mean to insult you.

Just need an excuse to feel better after trying to lynch you.

[Salamence20]

Gg i love you all.