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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:51 am

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In post 13, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 9, Plotinus wrote:have we met?

VOTE: Jeanne

Policy.

policy votes are bad.
vote: plotinus

easily justifiable scum votes.


Policy is bad but you don't say anything about Maruchan's policy vote?

Do I bandwagon or carve my own path to lynch CoolDog... Hmm
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Post Post #24 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:06 am

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VOTE: CoolDog

Wgeurts is definitely third party.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:18 am

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No? I think CoolDog is scum. I think Wgeurt's role is too specific to be a town power. Plus, it has all the hallmarks of that awkward entrance into a game that non-town have.

The smilies, the confusion, the upfront "truth" of his role. It all seems fake.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:22 am

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I slightly agree that McMenmo is probably a liability for later in the game. Policy lynches in general are pretty bad and for that reason alone Maruchan is suspect. Then again, I think you're advocating a policy lynch so... :hitoshrug:
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:44 am

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Maruchan could also be third party now that I think about it given his first post.

Did no one choose town =_=
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Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:22 am

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In post 32, wgeurts wrote:Oversoul,
What would make you say I'm a third-party when it's pretty clear I'm not.
Could it possibly be you're a cat?
VOTE: Oversoul

In post 31, Plotinus wrote:You didn’t? Can you win with the town, though?


I did?
How do you get that I didn't from that post?
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Post Post #37 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:23 am

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In post 32, wgeurts wrote:Oversoul,
What would make you say I'm a third-party when it's pretty clear I'm not.
Could it possibly be you're a cat?
VOTE: Oversoul


I'm not a cat.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:24 am

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In post 34, Maruchan wrote:
In post 26, Oversoul wrote:I think Wgeurt's role is too specific to be a town power.

Is this serious?

I thought we were in a upick, of crazily epicly bastardly in depth unique proportions, where stuff like super specific crazy weird roles are expected.

and someone claims to have one and you immediately paint him as third?


My role is not specific and I am town. That's why I said that.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:27 am

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Oh
Was meant to be a general comment from my point of view
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Post Post #45 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:29 am

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You guys are reading way too far into that comment
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Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:31 am

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Although thinking about my specific comment, I don't think specific was the right term to use... I probably should have said complex. My role is "specific" in a sense but it isn't complex at all.

What does everyone say for mass claiming bastard/complexity preferences we submitted to the mod?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:00 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #90 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:34 pm

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WE ARE GROOT
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Post Post #92 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:35 pm

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I
AM GROOT
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Post Post #95 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:36 pm

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In post 93, Plotinus wrote:oh no it’s contagious!

i am groot too?


Groot.

I.

Am.

GROOT!!!
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Post Post #97 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:37 pm

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I am groot
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Post Post #101 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:41 pm

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In post 98, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 86, Plotinus wrote:This reads list makes as much sense as a shuffled deck of cards.


In post 86, Plotinus wrote:I would sheep that.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:50 am

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I am groot
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Post Post #119 (isolation #18) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:19 am

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Why the votes on Plotinus?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:25 am

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Well, at least I was right that Wgeurts was not town.

VOTE: Wgeurts
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Post Post #142 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:55 am

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Wgeurts is L-1
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Post Post #176 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:24 am

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Townkitties

hehe
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Post Post #274 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:33 am

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Happy Scumday Maruchan!

Given the mod team, I doubt Wgeurts is a normal jester. Vi hates third parties who can only win through anti-fun means. Additionally, LLD and GreyIce I think would be more creative than to include a vanilla jester.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:34 am

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But... CoolDog is actually scum.

VOTE: CoolDog
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Post Post #342 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:17 am

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I would like that post explained too.
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Post Post #344 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:22 am

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That's absurd.
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Post Post #359 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:17 am

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In post 338, massive wrote:VOTE: MewThree

I can only assume you want to direct some unknown pro-town role to kill wgeurts so you can use your scum kill elsewhere.


This is absurd because you cannot possibly think you're the only town player in this game. What would be the point of that? It would no longer be mafia. It would be mafia against a thousand third parties in that case.

Did you not read GreyIce's posts when he first announced the game?

In post 403, GreyICE wrote:
Choose Your Side: Now with competent Co-Mod Edition!


So, here I was, after the spectacular failures of my last two games thinking, "wow, I really should run a game". But I just don't want to design one. So you can do it for me! Pick whatever you want, and we will make this happen. To be even lazier, I have recruited the best designer on the site to help me! Vi will look at my roles, laugh at my failure, and cull anything that is overly stupid.

You will get to pick:

Your Side
: Town, Mafia, or Third Party
Your Character
: Flavor name from whatever. Alignment does not have to follow from flavor (so Hannibal Lector, town is fine). You may suggest mechanics, you probably won't get them.
The Mechanical Complexity:
Pick a number from 5 to 10, where 5 is an average complexity theme game and 10 is some Tarhalindur stuff. I'll average everyone's responses and make it to that!
Bastard Level:
This will determine how much fucking with the players is occurring. 1 would be straightforward "everything GreyICE says is true", 5 is "trust literally nothing"

Caveats (because there has to be some):

Town:
There will be more town players than Mafia players.
Mafia:
There will be a minimum of 2 Mafia
Third Parties:
There is no minimum of Third parties. The maximum, by my rules, would be 8. Third parties may win with the town, with the mafia, with both, or with neither (solo victory). No Third party will have a victory condition that exactly matches either the town or the mafia victory conditions.


If these numbers aren't met, I'll work with players to get there (it has to be a game of mafia). Most likely, they will be.

Game Status:
Bastard

Experience Requirements:
Two completed games, and a general sense that you're a decent player. Wisdom of the mod is in play. Proper punctuation and grammar will help your case! So will a history of not flaking, good posting, and generally being a player who puts effort into games. This is not to filter by "skill", but by commitment and general knowledge level.

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I've underlined and made the color bright red of the relevant portions that prove you are being paranoid for no reason.

According to the game moderators, at minimum, 3 town players exist and 2 mafia players exist.
Why did you think that comment about the vig-kill specifically meant *you*?
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Post Post #360 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:18 am

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I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Your join date is old and you may not be aware of how CYS games function. Essentially, this game is a uPick that also includes faction choice.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:27 am

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VOTE: Massive

I could do the bandwagon.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:32 am

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Diginova, to answer your earlier question, I thought CoolDog was scum because he somehow missed Maruchan's policy vote on McMeno, but he didn't miss the other policy vote.

Also, as soon as I called him out as scum, he called me town based on my page 1-2 which I felt like was CoolDog's attempt to get me off his case by buddying/buttering me up with a town read.

I don't know how to take his other posts. They seem very aggressive, not naturally so for CoolDog who seems more happy go lucky than aggressive.
Then again, I have never played with CoolDog, so I may not have a good grasp of his playstyle.
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Post Post #375 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:02 am

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You'll probably get a warning.

Massive is L-2
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Post Post #380 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:51 am

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jokes on you wgeurts

I'm voteless
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Post Post #381 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:52 am

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sometimes

apparently

let's see if this is one of those times
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Post Post #394 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:55 am

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did you choose colonel sanders, massive?
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Post Post #395 (isolation #34) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:56 am

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or alicia keys
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Post Post #398 (isolation #35) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:04 pm

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I have a hunch
VOTE: Klingon

Let me go chew some tabaccy first
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Post Post #407 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:49 pm

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Menmo is also a good lynch. Massive needs to full claim asap.

There you are Klingon.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #37) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:55 am

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In post 408, massive wrote:It seems unlikely that you will be able to enforce any sort of request on me, Oversoul. But here, have my vote as a consolation prize.

VOTE: Oversoul


Uh that's not how townies with Vig kills play given they just almost got lynched
But let's try this again
What is your role?
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Post Post #426 (isolation #38) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:23 am

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In post 401, diginova wrote:What is this hunch, Oversoul?


The vote on Klingon was unrelated to my hunch.

Massive actually referenced my hunch. Skold joining the Massive wagon was scummy. Before placing his vote, Skold made reference to Massive *once*.

Then, Skold makes this post

In post 377, Skold wrote:Previously on Skold is barely even playing this game ''Though I'm starting to think of him as scum/sk that can't be NK'd. If that's the case I'd lean towards scum trying to draw a couple vig shots''. I mean that his Jester claim to me indicates that he wants a vig shot probably because he can block or reflect it.

mcmeno has only really come out to defend himself and that's just not good theater. I can go for a massive or a mcmeno lynch today with a wgeurts NK.
VOTE: massive
Intent to hammer, blah blah blah, L-1, etc.


He is not scumhunting or playing in this game.

However, I think Massive might be a malignant third party which is why he is acting aggressive and uncooperative despite nearly dying less than a day ago.

I think setting himself on fire is potentially how he would be able to kill someone? He might be a vengeful townie (only role if town that justifies his behavior right now), but right now I'm thinking a serial killer type role.

Anyway... VOTE: Skold
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Post Post #428 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:49 am

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I mean they will just lunch you
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Post Post #443 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:57 am

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In post 436, massive wrote:
Maruchan
: Why do you think I'm scum? Is it still because I keep saying I'm the only townie? And before you go quoting the game signup like Oversoul did, note that that guarantee is not in the actual game rules. Also note that the possibility exists that you are ALL third-party and I actually AM the only townie, which would be hilarious.


Are you actually this paranoid?
Ask the mods.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:04 pm

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Maru, opinion on Skold?
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Post Post #467 (isolation #42) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:41 am

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In post 464, Skold wrote:
In post 426, Oversoul wrote:
In post 401, diginova wrote:What is this hunch, Oversoul?


The vote on Klingon was unrelated to my hunch.

Massive actually referenced my hunch. Skold joining the Massive wagon was scummy. Before placing his vote, Skold made reference to Massive *once*.

Then, Skold makes this post

In post 377, Skold wrote:Previously on Skold is barely even playing this game ''Though I'm starting to think of him as scum/sk that can't be NK'd. If that's the case I'd lean towards scum trying to draw a couple vig shots''. I mean that his Jester claim to me indicates that he wants a vig shot probably because he can block or reflect it.

mcmeno has only really come out to defend himself and that's just not good theater. I can go for a massive or a mcmeno lynch today with a wgeurts NK.
VOTE: massive
Intent to hammer, blah blah blah, L-1, etc.


He is not scumhunting or playing in this game.

However, I think Massive might be a malignant third party which is why he is acting aggressive and uncooperative despite nearly dying less than a day ago.

I think setting himself on fire is potentially how he would be able to kill someone? He might be a vengeful townie (only role if town that justifies his behavior right now), but right now I'm thinking a serial killer type role.

Anyway... VOTE: Skold

Do I need to spend half an hour forging new ways to say things that have already been said regarding massive to vote for him? That sounds boring. I have you know I respect the copyrights on this theatrical release. Though it seems less like a drama-thriller right this moment and more of a comedy. :facepalm:
And yes I am scum hunting. Did you just ignore the part with mcmeno? That and his recent post is more about the setup and he hasn't commented on gameplay so...
VOTE: mcmeno

Tis a poor Fitz that thinks he fits while he fixes fiefs and heists thrices a poor bastard indeed who lives among dogs and mices.


No, but I should be able to follow your train of thought on various players. Currently, that is not the case.

McMenmo is an easy target. He practically wants the town to vote him in every game he plays.

In post 461, massive wrote:
In post 445, diginova wrote:Let's just say this as you seem to be stuck on your paranoia that you're the only town, even though it's been disproven multiple times.

Disproven how? We have no flips other than a singleton mafia.

In post 445, diginova wrote:If there was only one townie, even with multiple scum teams, there would be no way for you to win.

I've already noted a perfectly practical (and possible in this game) way that I could actually be the only townie.

In post 444, Maruchan wrote:The possibility doesn't exist because I'm town

OK. You want to work together then, let's work together. Come vote Skold and let's hold hands or something.


It has been proved false by the mod's original advertisement post that I linked, yet you think is somehow NOT valid? It is ridiculous that you STILL think you're the only townie in this game when the mods PRIOR to this game starting would not lie about the alignment composition of the game.
How much pot have you smoked up in Colorado to become this paranoid?

Mods, are the compositions of alignments in this game faithful to the advertisement post that GreyIce made?

In post 403, GreyICE wrote:
Choose Your Side: Now with competent Co-Mod Edition!


So, here I was, after the spectacular failures of my last two games thinking, "wow, I really should run a game". But I just don't want to design one. So you can do it for me! Pick whatever you want, and we will make this happen. To be even lazier, I have recruited the best designer on the site to help me! Vi will look at my roles, laugh at my failure, and cull anything that is overly stupid.

You will get to pick:

Your Side
: Town, Mafia, or Third Party
Your Character
: Flavor name from whatever. Alignment does not have to follow from flavor (so Hannibal Lector, town is fine). You may suggest mechanics, you probably won't get them.
The Mechanical Complexity:
Pick a number from 5 to 10, where 5 is an average complexity theme game and 10 is some Tarhalindur stuff. I'll average everyone's responses and make it to that!
Bastard Level:
This will determine how much fucking with the players is occurring. 1 would be straightforward "everything GreyICE says is true", 5 is "trust literally nothing"

Caveats (because there has to be some):

Town:
There will be more town players than Mafia players.
Mafia:
There will be a minimum of 2 Mafia
Third Parties:
There is no minimum of Third parties. The maximum, by my rules, would be 8. Third parties may win with the town, with the mafia, with both, or with neither (solo victory). No Third party will have a victory condition that exactly matches either the town or the mafia victory conditions.

If these numbers aren't met, I'll work with players to get there (it has to be a game of mafia). Most likely, they will be.

Game Status:
Bastard

Experience Requirements:
Two completed games, and a general sense that you're a decent player. Wisdom of the mod is in play. Proper punctuation and grammar will help your case! So will a history of not flaking, good posting, and generally being a player who puts effort into games. This is not to filter by "skill", but by commitment and general knowledge level.

PM Me with all of the above to /in to the game (as well as post in thread)


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In post 450, Plotinus wrote:Skold lurked a lot as scum in the newbie game I played with him.


I'm willing to let him go for now.

VOTE: CoolDog

Back to my old ways. Choo choo!

Klingon should definitely claim though.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #43) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:42 am

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:facepalm:

I can't keep anything straight in my jumbled mind
Meant to say massive.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #44) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:42 am

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Massive I'm giving you one chance.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #45) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:46 pm

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Uh...

What?
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Post Post #479 (isolation #46) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:57 pm

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I never understood the truth colors mechanic thing. Too dumb for that.

Mod, can you Golden or Blue truth it?
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Post Post #485 (isolation #47) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:10 am

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Oh that's an idea!! Wgeurts you could always commit suicide via the great and powerful one

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Post Post #486 (isolation #48) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:17 am

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VOTE: UShiromi

I don't know if this has been done yet

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Post Post #493 (isolation #49) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 485, Oversoul wrote:Oh that's an idea!! Wgeurts you could always commit suicide via the great and powerful one

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I disagree with this ruling.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #50) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:34 am

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I did not request anyone to be mod killed.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #51) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:03 pm

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Kill the Mod!!!
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Post Post #515 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:01 pm

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VOTE: CoolDog
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Post Post #519 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:19 am

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Everyone not voting needs to be voting someone.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:46 pm

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So we have 5 days...
Probably should start to consolidate our votes now.

Join the CoolDog wagon!
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Post Post #552 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:34 am

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I don't see how any of those can be construed as PR hunting. I correctly identified Wgeurts and I am only concerned about Massive's PR because it seems like a scum ability.
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Post Post #553 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:35 am

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Why do you want to vote Diginova, Nacho? Because she has Lamdadelta powers?
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Post Post #554 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:36 am

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Oh holy shit I got 2 rules in fractions O_o
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Post Post #557 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:22 am

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Fair enough. I haven't been really transparent with my thoughts this game since I haven't really been trying. I do believe that CoolDog is scum and have thought so since the beginning of the game.

I did not like his early aggression and I think he is just trying to keep up appearances. He is not super active here like I thought he would be. He comes in posts a bluster of words and then leaves for a few days. That looks like typical scum trying to skate by. CoolDog is weird though that he is a mix between the scum that tries to steer the game and the scum that lurks. :shrug:

Nacho... I really have no idea what you would want from me here. His post restriction is annoying and he should probably just start to quote strip people to form sentences that are not in Grootian.

I have a town read on you, Plot. You are one of the few people actively scumhunting and actually playing in this game. I don't see you putting in this amount of effort as a scum or third party (although a wincondition could make you feel more town than third party).

Skold - is lurkerish, like I pointed out earlier, but I'm not sure he is worth going after right now.

Massive - I think is probably scum given that ability. At least not town. That ability seems more "this role needs to survive" more than "town ability".
Maru - has been lurkerish, I did not like his early game given the selective policy lynch stuff.
Menmo - lurkerish and does not contribute, honestly should be vigged at some point in the game like Wgeurts
Wgeurts - conf third party, I don't think anything needs to be said on this front, but I would like to say I called him out instantly! : ]
MewThree - lurker too.

Klingon and Digi I have to read more into. I think I know what Digi's role is, I think Nacho does too, but I'm not sure why Nacho thinks that Digi is scum for it. Kling given her more recent post on me I feel is probably town.

So... yeah... This game does not have a lot of activity or information to parse through. It is funny that this game has been so slow despite being bastard and filled with rather spammy type players. I think that is on account of them choosing 3rd party or scum and tending to be survivalistic.
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Post Post #626 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:38 pm

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I'm pretty sure my infraction has to do with my role.
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Post Post #628 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:19 pm

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So either Kling or Diginova does not have a vote
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Post Post #629 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:23 pm

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And like I thought that dumb infraction was because of my role :igmeou:
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Post Post #631 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:36 pm

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In post 561, CooLDoG wrote:also: if/when plot flips scum oversoul's last town read out of nowhere will be remembered.


I've been fairly vocal about Plot town, at least in my head, for a while now.
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Post Post #632 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:36 pm

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Hmmm....
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Post Post #634 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:01 pm

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Probably because your Lady Lambdadelta. :shifty:
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Post Post #636 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:09 pm

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ebwop: you're
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Post Post #650 (isolation #66) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:56 am

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Massive, how high on the bastard scale did you put your role? That probably explains why the mod would lie to you about the composition of the game.

Also, my vote for some reason is now stuck on CoolDog. Meaning if I vote anyone else I will receive infractions. My role is a modified inventor of sorts... The mod gives me three names at the beginning of the day as a way to "activate my invention powers" if I vote them correctly, for a long enough time, I get access to the inventions. Apparently my vote also becomes glued to that person.
I do not know what my inventions do. All I have is their names.

I was hoping it didn't come to this because I think I can probably give some people good abilities, I was just trying to tunnel on CoolDog.
I will say this game is bastard to the highest degree most likely.
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Post Post #651 (isolation #67) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:56 am

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Mask Salesman from Majora's Mask by the way
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Post Post #652 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:58 am

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In post 648, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 646, CooLDoG wrote:I mean, if plont flips scum I will be the first one on the oversoul wagon tomorrow, but right now it seems that the attacks on him are from inability, NOT scum motivation.


Why would a Townie do so much PR hunting?


You keep saying my play is PR hunting when it actually isn't. Do you even understand what PR hunting is?
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Post Post #653 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:07 am

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Also, I retract my statement about the complexity of my role. I didn't realize the vote would get stuck or that I wouldnt receive what my inventions do
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Post Post #655 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:42 am

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For the record, I really only think Diginova's comments about my play based on my 467 are valid. The rest of the "case" against me made by Klingon and al is factually incorrect.

This game is a Choose Your Side game. It is notorious for having a lot of third parties? Why? Because third party is a role that individuals seldom have the chance to play on MafiaScum. The sheer luck involved in drawing a third party role if one exists is low and a stigma hangs in the air around here that mods should not attempt to include third party roles. For that reason, this game usually has about equal amounts of town + third party roles. Mafia usually are less popular because it is typically harder to win in a game like this that can easily devolve into a trust tell phenomenon that is sweeping the nation! For that reason, you only get people who think they have a strong mafia playstyle or Jeanne...

Anyway, with that in mind, let us look at Klingon's "case".

Post 30

In post 30, Oversoul wrote:Maruchan could also be third party now that I think about it given his first post.

Did no one choose town =_=


Here I call out Maruchan as possibly being third party. I also make a passing comment, that given MY point of view AT THAT POINT IN TIME should make sense to anyone with a brain. I had *just* called out CoolDog as scum, Wgeurts as scum/third party, and now Maruchan as scum/third party. This is page 2 so the people I developed reads on are all among the top posters at this time and I have a not town read on them. Does this now make sense?

Anyway, back to business. Klingon is using this post to show that I am "PR hunting"? I was very confused and chose to ignore these claims because I do not see any indication of "PR hunting" in this post (as well as others). I am literally stating what I think another person's alignment is. How is that Pr Hunting? I'm not asking Maru "Are you town/third party? Are you this role? Or that role?" Or ANYTHING like that. Yet, I get accused of looking for a PR. Okay... moving onto the next "PR hunting post".

In post 38, Oversoul wrote:
In post 34, Maruchan wrote:
In post 26, Oversoul wrote:I think Wgeurt's role is too specific to be a town power.

Is this serious?

I thought we were in a upick, of crazily epicly bastardly in depth unique proportions, where stuff like super specific crazy weird roles are expected.

and someone claims to have one and you immediately paint him as third?


My role is not specific and I am town. That's why I said that.


Again, Klingon accuses me of "PR hunting" when I have not do a single bit of PR hunting. I am just stating my opinion about Wgeurt's role. I'm not asking Wgeurts to claim. I'm not asking Maruchan to claim. I'm not asking ANYONE to say ANYTHING. I am giving reads, yet she is construing all of this as "PR hunting". This is absurd.

In post 46, Oversoul wrote:Although thinking about my specific comment, I don't think specific was the right term to use... I probably should have said complex. My role is "specific" in a sense but it isn't complex at all.

What does everyone say for mass claiming bastard/complexity preferences we submitted to the mod?


Again, I am not asking anyone to claim their ROLE. I'm not asking anyone to claim their FLAVOR. I'm literally asking everyone to just claim the paradigm that the mods used to design their role. I have no idea what could possibly result from a 5-5 paradigm, a 8-2 paradigm, or a 1-10 paradigm, yet I get accused of PR hunting here? This is a joke and I hope you all see Klingon's accusations as unsubstantiated or at least wrong headed, if not illogical.

It is at this point that I remind everyone, that thus far of the "revealed" alignments. I was not wrong at all with my initial suspicions. I called out Wgeurts as not town. I also called out Maruchan as not town. Guess who was right about both of those people by page 2?

After messing around with Nacho, I ask why people are voting Plotinus, who at the time is clearly the most town individual in the game. Plot was scumhunting, interacting with everyone, and generally being active while everyone else was... not. People may have been doing 1 of those three things, but not all 3.

I know I have said that I thought Plot was town for a long time, but it has come to my attention that I did not explicitly state she was town. Since that post, 119, I have thought Plot was town given Plotinus's play.

Now for Diginova, 467 is the time where I am notified that I have to only vote CoolDog which is why I moved from Skold to CoolDog. Also, the comment about Klingon was me mixing up games, which I've unfortunately been doing the entire day phase. I voted her because of my role.

pedit: Ok, given the bastard value, have you ever considered that the mod is lying to you about that part of your role PM? You know, when we have outside of game confirmation you're wrong?
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Post Post #656 (isolation #71) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:43 am

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ebwop: I initially voted Klingon because of my role
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Post Post #657 (isolation #72) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:52 am

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Also, I think the fact that this game has been a slow paced game is a symptom of how many players chose third party/mafia as opposed to town. You could probably solve this game based on activity tells alone.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #73) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:59 am

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In post 658, massive wrote:
In post 655, Oversoul wrote:Ok, given the bastard value, have you ever considered that the mod is lying to you about that part of your role PM? You know, when we have outside of game confirmation you're wrong?

I considered this, but decided it seemed like unnecessary information. Besides, having your PM say "you're the only town" instead of "you're town" may be bastard, but doesn't change the fact that I'm town.

How about you? Do you want to stick to being town, or are you also a third-party that can win with the town?


I'm town. Although my role is proving to be bastard given I've received new information on how my role works twice now. Then again, I did a 10-1 distribution thinking this game was going to be super complex and wanted it to not be as complex. :shifty:
I just fucked myself in the end though.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:14 pm

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I think I may have caused the LLD vote?

In other news, I think I am now vanillalized.
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Post Post #723 (isolation #75) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:15 pm

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Also, if you guys quote posts with rules infractions, you're going to get rules infractions.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:29 pm

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Wgeurts sets kittens on fire
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Post Post #744 (isolation #77) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:31 pm

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What kind of sadistic person sets kittens on fire
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Post Post #747 (isolation #78) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:59 pm

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Mod: What does ineligible player mean?
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Post Post #748 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:01 pm

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Ok, well. Let's try this again.

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Post Post #750 (isolation #80) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:20 pm

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Mod: What does denied mean?
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Post Post #751 (isolation #81) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:20 pm

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Some wonky shit is going on
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Post Post #754 (isolation #82) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:22 pm

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I targetted Ozgin last night, well Mcmenno technically. If my role did cause that I don't understand why it involves LLD.

Read Massive's posts. He claims he is the only townie in the game and is acting defensive about that claim despite there being evidence that proves otherwise. Additionally, he is acting survivalistic like a mafia/third party.
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Post Post #756 (isolation #83) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:31 pm

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Why does that matter?
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Post Post #758 (isolation #84) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:59 pm

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Can someone remove his Post Restriction or something?
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Post Post #762 (isolation #85) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:34 pm

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Brutally Assassinated reminds me of the player by the same name... Makes me think that someone who is aware of the MS meta chose that character.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #86) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:39 pm

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Multiball would make sense. Hadn't considered that. 3:3:x:x in a mini? Eh.. that's really unbalanced, even for a bastard game.

You should do "n0 l33t sp34k". Something that is not obtrusive. Although, I don't understand why people are suiciding.
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Post Post #768 (isolation #87) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:41 am

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It still says that Wgeurts is in the game on the front page.

VOTE: Wgeurts
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Post Post #779 (isolation #88) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:37 am

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In post 777, Ozgin wrote:Oversoul, you're voting a modkilled player. Why not vote a real player, like massive? Where'd your conviction for that go?


I want to see if there is some sneaky shit going on with Wgeurts. I don't know why Wgeurts is still a player on the alive list, yet Plot and others were added to the dead list.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #89) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:37 am

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In post 771, CooLDoG wrote:ohh, yeah, if you didn't catch the refence: I GOT PLONT RIGHT!


So you're Brutal Assassin? Why did you choose that?
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Post Post #791 (isolation #90) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:18 pm

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In post 789, Ozgin wrote:Oversoul, it was just an oversight. Now, as you were saying?


Onto the massive train!

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Post Post #802 (isolation #91) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:17 pm

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I think we should probably mass claim now.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #92) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:15 am

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Someone has to be an SK or something and that is why the game hasn't ended
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Post Post #813 (isolation #93) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:43 am

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Nacho and Diginovia should claim as soon as possible. I don't know why Nacho is avoiding this game.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #94) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:14 pm

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Huh? SKs do not count for that. You have to kill them to achieve that.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #95) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:00 pm

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In post 770, CooLDoG wrote:I AM YOUR GOD.


Was this you claiming responsibility for Plotinus death?
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Post Post #843 (isolation #96) » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:49 pm

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Now we wait and see
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Post Post #852 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:39 pm

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Yes.
I don't have any powers anymore. :\ Pretty sure I was vanillalized. :\

VOTE: Nacho

Mod, was Ozgin Mafia?
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Post Post #853 (isolation #98) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:41 pm

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Like I think I was the reason that Ozgin had that LLD vote on him, but I don't know what my masks did so I can't be sure.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:46 pm

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Unless Digi was the reason for the vote which would make more sense
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Post Post #856 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:27 pm

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Did everyone full claim? Digi, what powers do you have other than the rules?
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Post Post #858 (isolation #101) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:39 am

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Post Post #859 (isolation #102) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:32 am

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So... Anyone here? Wanna discuss things
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Post Post #862 (isolation #103) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:54 pm

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I will laugh if Nacho's PR was fake this entire time.
I don't remember Vi liking PRs, but stranger things have happened.
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Post Post #866 (isolation #104) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:54 am

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Honestly Nacho, my vote stems from the fact that you could have done so much more to communicate given your PR. Plus, you haven't really been doing anything in this game. I don't have a good grasp on your play as scum, but I feel like you would be doing more if town.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #105) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:23 pm

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Saw Nacho avoiding this thread. Let's wrap this one up ladies and gents
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Post Post #871 (isolation #106) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:38 am

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Can you re-explain your role for me? Your second ability effectively makes someone a strongman?
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Post Post #877 (isolation #107) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:35 am

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Just want this game over before it reaches Nightingale levels of me not caring
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Post Post #879 (isolation #108) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:41 pm

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If nacho is town then I give up up
I have varying reads of town on everyone else
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Post Post #886 (isolation #109) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:41 pm

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I don't think Maruchan exists anymore
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Post Post #889 (isolation #110) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:42 am

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I trust Klingon, so I guess it is 1v1 time CoolDog
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Post Post #907 (isolation #111) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:21 pm

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CoolDog you were obvscum.
How do you feel winning a Vi game, though? You publicly hate him.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #112) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:21 pm

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In post 900, CooLDoG wrote:Note also, I selected Bob the builder as scum for a hella good flavor claim. ALWAYS BE VIGILANT LIKE THAT IN U-PICKS, psychologically it works.


Or just fucking lie, lol
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Post Post #911 (isolation #113) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:13 am

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Redirecting me to my own target was funny, Plot
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Post Post #917 (isolation #114) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:49 pm

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Also I did not mean to mess up this game with Space Dandy as much as I did. For the longest time both games were progressing at the same pace. Pretty sure Kling was the only player in both but it was enough to fuck me up and get everything confused

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