Mini 1706 - Pula Mafia (over)

[Malakittens]

<.<

Okay?

So if I was scum I'd know his claim would be fake and I would have jumped on his wagon early instead of hard defending him.

[catboi]

Could see why people would read that as scum-motivated (I mean I felt that way when it happened), but I just don't feel like that's the case here. Not sure why the attention's focus on those posts, and not her followup. *shrugs*

*yawns*

Still haven't changed my mind, not sure what's causing the game to stagnate.

[superbowl9]

plus theres two people ont he wagon i dont like

Lale & Max

Wait why don't you like max?

Still haven't changed my mind, not sure what's causing the game to stagnate.

Probly the elusive wagon people are getting off for no reason. Someone needs to give intent to hammer, elu needs to claim, or a counter-wagon needs to start up (atum's vanity doesn't count).

[Malakittens]

I don't really know how to explain why I don't like Max, but what I have seen of his posting I just don't like :\

[Maxous]

:V

[Loranthaceae]

St Constantine the Hermit replaces Banakai
Deadline is (expired on 2015-08-30 08:26:07)

[superbowl9]

St Constantine please don't hammer unanounced like last game. Elusive is at L-1, if you vote him it will be a hammer and I will policy lynch you once again.

[Bellaphant]

@Superbowl, I don't like it because no one is yelling about why we shouldn't hammer her, suggesting they town-read her, but no one is committed to her lynch. If people who are voting her think elu is scum, they should be pushing it, not just...sitting there. Also, being at l-1 twice without intent to hammer/claim is strange. Only mala's really explained why she's not happy with the wagon, but hasn't pursued her scum reads. Like someone said, the day phase has kinda stalled, and I don't like it. People are talking about mala (which is a kinda meh case) but also not voting her.

@mala, talk to me about max? I had similar thoughts day 1, but interactions have made me wonder.

also, @mod, elu needs a prod.

[Radja]

About the Mala case:
It's pretty weak I think, but since you're not voting her over it, I suppose it's fine. Can you explain how voting Scorp's town role claim is different from voting Catboi's town role claim?

she made a big deal out of seeming to believe scorp's claim, then wagoned him anyway, which struck me as very odd. Voting catboi also seemed scummy because he was claimed (and at that point I think fairly well accepted) town, but the scorp thing struck me as defending a scum buddy, then busing when it was clear that she wasn't going to be able to stop the wagon.

Why is it odd? It happened after shadow softclaimed.

[Malakittens]

Lalen is going for easy bait since she's scum d:

[superbowl9]

@Superbowl, I don't like it because no one is yelling about why we shouldn't hammer her, suggesting they town-read her, but no one is committed to her lynch. If people who are voting her think elu is scum, they should be pushing it, not just...sitting there. Also, being at l-1 twice without intent to hammer/claim is strange. Only mala's really explained why she's not happy with the wagon, but hasn't pursued her scum reads. Like someone said, the day phase has kinda stalled, and I don't like it. People are talking about mala (which is a kinda meh case) but also not voting her.

@mala, talk to me about max? I had similar thoughts day 1, but interactions have made me wonder.

also, @mod, elu needs a prod.

Like I said,

Probly the elusive wagon people are getting off for no reason. Someone needs to give intent to hammer, elu needs to claim, or a counter-wagon needs to start up (atum's vanity doesn't count).

Lookin at u radj, mala.

[Radja]

vote:Grib

I guess

@mod: Votecount pls

Why vote before getting the vc? That seems a little reckless.

Scorp was riding catboi awfully hard, and I am inclined to believe catboi is town, so this makes me suspicious of scorp. Yet I would hate to lose a power role like that, and I can buy the noob argument to an extent. At the same time, if he really is town, he's dead tonight anyway.

Looks to me like you had the same reasoning Mala had at this time, only to vote Scorpious later.

VOTE: Lalendra

I think I might pursue this for now.

P-Edit: right on time, I guess? I have no interest in elusive.

[Atum]

Prodge

Also, finally read through catboi's case for scum!elusive, and pretty much disagree with most/all of his conclusions. Reads more like someone looking for things to call scummy moreso than looking for someone who is scum.

Mala's still scum and all, but I guess I can wait on that, since I'm way too lazy to build an actual case there. Radj and super, I'll maybe try and post actual reasoning later today? But probably not.

Maxous, do you think voting a mislynch D1 is a scumtell?

[Loranthaceae]

Firebringer replaces elusive. New compensatory deadline is in (expired on 2015-09-01 00:00:00) (September 1^st 00:00 UTC)

[catboi]

Prodge

Also, finally read through catboi's case for scum!elusive, and pretty much disagree with most/all of his conclusions. Reads more like someone looking for things to call scummy moreso than looking for someone who is scum.

Mala's still scum and all, but I guess I can wait on that, since I'm way too lazy to build an actual case there. Radj and super, I'll maybe try and post actual reasoning later today? But probably not.

Maxous, do you think voting a mislynch D1 is a scumtell?

This is garbage, speak up or screw off

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I rolled scum this game, so I am hoping that can be some positive utility to town.
Unfortunately I do not know who my scumbuddy is, so we are going to have to do actual scum hunting.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Intent to Hammertime

[St Constantine the Hermit]

VOTE: Lelandra

Just fucking with you guys!

[catboi]

Please vig that

[catboi]

UNVOTE:

nvm

[Lalendra]

vote:Grib

I guess

@mod: Votecount pls

Why vote before getting the vc? That seems a little reckless.

Scorp was riding catboi awfully hard, and I am inclined to believe catboi is town, so this makes me suspicious of scorp. Yet I would hate to lose a power role like that, and I can buy the noob argument to an extent. At the same time, if he really is town, he's dead tonight anyway.

Looks to me like you had the same reasoning Mala had at this time, only to vote Scorpious later.

VOTE: Lalendra

I think I might pursue this for now.

P-Edit: right on time, I guess? I have no interest in elusive.

The difference between my vote and hers was that I carefully considered his utility and the likelihood of him being scum, and eventually my initial caution have way to me being convinced of his scumminess. You can see a pretty logical progression in my posts, I think. Mala, on the other hand, seemed to be defending him right up until she wasn't, with no explanation for the sudden shift.

I don't think even if elusive came back that she'd have much to say, she gave up defending herself, which is not great for town right now.

[Lalendra]

If she was town, that is, and this is another reason why I don't think she is. Sorry, tired, that post was poorly worded.

[catboi]

I need to reread and update my reads list, constantine replaced a bad slot and did themselves absolutely no favors

[Firebringer]

Hi guys, I just joined. Going to have to look through things.
I guess I am at L-1?
I don't know if my slot claimed yet, though I am VT.

[Firebringer]

The fact hermit didn't hammer actually suprises me lol.