Mini Normal 1707 - Frog Mafia! - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN!

[ika]

can we move on and win the game already?

[notscience]

VOTE: bbt

[zakk]

I'm just as shocked as you that someone tried to kill me.

#brbdying

VOTE: BBT

[zakk]

If you're not scum I'm down for Scorpius but I rly doubt you're not scum so

[ika]

VOTE: BBT

[Fro99er]

VOTECOUNT 3.01

• (0)

  Malakittens

  —
  
  
  (0)

  ika

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Metal Sonic

  —
  
  
  (0)

  shaddowez

  —
  
  
  (0)

  AxleGreaser

  —
  
  
  (6)

  [LYNCH!]

  BlueBloodedToffee

  —
  Malakittens, Metal Sonic, Scorpious, notscience, zakk, ika
  
  (1)

  Scorpious

  —
  BlueBloodedToffee
  
  (0)

  notscience

  —
  
  
  (0)

  zakk

  —
  
  
  (0)

  pistachi0n

  —
  
  
  (0)

  singersigner

  —
  
  
  
  (4)

  (NOT VOTING)

  —
  shaddowez, AxleGreaser, pistachi0n, singersigner
  
  With
  11

  alive
  , it took
  6

  votes
  to lynch.
  

[Fro99er]

A lynch has been achieved!

The frogs debate who picked up the mess from the night before.

"It was me! I cleaned it up" Bad Vanilla chimes in, full frog smile in force

All the other frogs take turns frog smiling (to practice your own frog smile, purse your lips tightly together, especially in the corners, and try to smile without taking your lips apart, like such )

Suddenly, Vanilla Turkey says "let's go play some leapfrog!" This is pretty routine exercise for frogs...gotta stay fit and all. They head to the frog gym and play treadmill leapfrog to get their heart rate up.

The only problem...

"WHO THE FUCK INVITED A TOAD!" screams Barry Ponds. "GET THE WARTY CREATURE OUT OF HERE!"

The frogs, up in arms, chase the toad away. Then they debate who is still disturbing the harmony. They reach the conclusion that Bad Vanilla wanted to clean up the evidence for good credit among the army of frogs. Especially given that his name is

Bad

Vanilla, it seemed all too suspicious. He's also had contact with toads in the past, which is how he got the name Bad Vanilla in the first place.

That night, they take Bad Vanilla to the tree, perform the ritual, and head inside the house......

Spoiler: Flip

BlueBloodedToffee was Bad Vanilla

a Vanilla Townie

(notice the frog smile)

Please PM me with any night actions! Day 4 will begin in (expired on 2015-09-05 19:00:00)!

Also - if everyone PMs me saying the are ok starting the day early, I will start the day early when all night actions have been submitted and received a PM from everyone.

[Fro99er]

After a looooooooooong night of sleep. The frogs wake up late, take a head count and realize...

Spoiler: Flip

Nobody Died

(expired on 2015-09-18 16:00:00)

(Fri Sep 18 @ 8:00:00 AM EST)

VOTECOUNT 4.00

• (0)

  Malakittens

  —
  
  
  (0)

  ika

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Metal Sonic

  —
  
  
  (0)

  shaddowez

  —
  
  
  (0)

  AxleGreaser

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Scorpious

  —
  
  
  (0)

  notscience

  —
  
  
  (0)

  zakk

  —
  
  
  (0)

  pistachi0n

  —
  
  
  (0)

  singersigner

  —
  
  
  
  (10)

  (NOT VOTING)

  —
  Malakittens, ika, Metal Sonic, shaddowez, AxleGreaser, Scorpious, notscience, zakk, pistachi0n, singersigner
  
  With
  10

  alive
  , it takes
  6

  votes
  to lynch.
  

[Fro99er]

Bump from the long night phase

[singersigner]

V/LA lasting a bit longer, sorry.

[Fro99er]

acknowledged!

[pistachi0n]

VOTE: Scorpious

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Zakk

[pistachi0n]

I'm assuming BBT was a miller.

[Malakittens]

I'm assuming BBT was a miller.

Why?

[ika]

huh?

[shaddowez]

I'm assuming BBT was a miller.

Why?

^This

Also, I'll sheep Scorp. I like that vote.

VOTE: zakk

[pistachi0n]

I'm assuming BBT was a miller.

Why?

Because the flip said "bad vanilla." What else would that mean?

[shaddowez]

That was the name of the frog he was assigned - it's used a number of times in the mod's flavor text (not just in the lynch post, either).

[AxleGreaser]

A question of balance.
As is in the thread I have been good to lynch Zakk based on my reads for rather a long time now.

We have various claims.
Is there an argument against Zakk being scum based on

Town Rolecop, Town JK, 8xVT

VS

Encrypter Backup RoleCop Goon

Spoiler: my thoughts

My judgement of balance for this site is known by me to be poor and biased one way.
In that setup:
The town role cop has a 2/3 chance to get a non vanilla result if they check a scum. The RoleCop vs Goon is akin to cop vs GF.
The encrypt-er result is a red check, the "backup rolecop" check is more orange as the claim I am a town back rolecop is plausible.

Alternatively if The setup is

Town Rolecop, Town JK, Backup RoleCop 7xVT

VS

Encrypter ???? Goon

Then town is quite heavy on Role copness. The last ???? cant be goon as that would be weird even though against that much Rolecop power goons are effective power roles as they are GFs in that they return vanilla. It would however seem mean spirited to give two player detection roles that have two effective GFs against them.

So at this stage, if Zakk is a town backup RoleCop
all green checks seem to look like reasonably strong signs of being town.

I don't see such an argument, it looks quite reasonable setup to me. Hence the check on Zakk and the claim is null.
Which leaves me at wanting to lynch my best scum read who is not Mala or Sonic.

[AxleGreaser]

Failing a good argument, (one I believe) I will be voting Zakk.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Scorpio

[Scorpious]

If a Mala wagon forms, That would be my alternate. It's either these two for me

[zakk]

Alright so that flip was kinda/not-so-kinda unexpected. So we wait for Mala now to see who she jailed.

Scorpious voting for me immediately is really scummy, especially given the circumstances of BBT's death yesterday.

Circumstance 1:

Can we not fucking lynch me?

Seriously, back the fuck off.

Cool.

Lynch Scorpious after my flip.

What took you so long to vote Scorpious?

Circumstance 2:

Ah actually I forgot about Scorpius – he's about the only other person it could be, besides BBT, if Mala is not lying, which I don't believe she is.

I'm gonna read more, then vote one of them.

If you're not scum I'm down for Scorpius but I rly doubt you're not scum so

shadowez's vote on me is considerably less scummy, given past events + Shiro's flip. I'll have to re-read him/Shiro.


AxleGreaser's willingness to vote me is no surprise at all.


However, I'm town.




Possibilities of what happened last night as far as I can see them:

1. Mala jailed scum, or whoever scum tried to kill. BBT would have been a very interesting choice for scum to kill yesterday, and it strains reason that anyone besides Scorpious would have tried to make that kill.

2. Scum decided to no-kill, and see if they could swing a lynch on whoever Mala jailed again. This could be Scorpious, for reasons of the BBT kill, or it could be someone else, having hatched the plan after Mala apparently jailed correctly both Night 1 AND Night 2.

3. Mala is scum. And doing everything in #2. Perhaps even set up for the JK claim early on. I think this is somewhat farfetched, but her claim was entirely unnecessary from a townie's standpoint. I could be reluctantly persuaded to this viewpoint, but ONLY after seeing Scorpious flip town.

4. Scum don't have a nightkill (not normal, therefore not a possibility).


Either way, Scorpious looks bad, and him voting me out the gate instead of waiting for Mala results looks even worse.

Also, I'm town. And I'm really a backup rolecop.

[zakk]

VOTE: Scorpio

exactly what i hoped to see

If a Mala wagon forms, That would be my alternate. It's either these two for me

exactly what i expected to hear