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[JeanDarc]

/confirm into pre-game.

how exciting!

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VOTE: Spiffeh
Every time I try to pronounce this name, I end up sounding like a drooling infant.

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Vote: SleepyKrew

for breaking our covenant

What is this referring to?

It's probably an anime reference (Puella Magi Madoka Magica)

[JeanDarc]

welcome Scorpius
VOTE: Scorpius

scums tend to get replaced a lot.

[JeanDarc]

VOTE: cowbells
until he explains his reads

[JeanDarc]

@RC (radiantcowbells) is there someone you've played with before here that you could use meta on? I've only replaced into a game in which you were tunneled and lynched D1 - besides that, everyone else is a newface to me.

[JeanDarc]

@Kyubey, @Shinobi, and @Scorpious

The votes during RVS are never truly "random." If some people rolled a die/RNG'd for their vote, you may call it that but we will never know (and rolling a die within a forum post is not allowed, AFAIK). Whether it's pro-town or not, a vote is still a vote and the early votes in first pages of the game should never be brushed off as "well, those were just RVS votes."

On that note,
UNVOTE:

Looks like people are growing apathetic over this dull transition so let's see if we can somehow engage them back into discussions. Perhaps someone could ask a question.

[JeanDarc]

@everyone
Random/Optional question to answer:
What is your overall experience with Mafia games (in/out of this site)? What is your favourite thing about Mafia (and why)?

[JeanDarc]

Something that I realized was bugging me that I overlooked:

@everyone
Random/Optional question to answer:
What is your overall experience with Mafia games (in/out of this site)? What is your favourite thing about Mafia (and why)?

What were you intending to accomplish with these questions?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jean

Just so we know who is familiar with terms and concepts versus some of players who are new and may be reluctant to post extensive reads and so forth.

[JeanDarc]

@spiffeh and shinobi,

other than the fact that RC didn't really explain his reads or been lurking lately, what are your scumreads on him? I think he is acting pretty normal based on the single game I've seen with him in it. He will definitely follow up eventually from what I remember.

@vijay
seemed like you wanted to follow up from your last post so looking forward to that.

@Lex

In post 113, catboi wrote:

In post 96, LexTrew wrote:
Shinobi strikes me as town. His frustation seems genuine and I can certainly understand it.

Lol, how? If anything, the fact that he got frustrated with an unerexplained page 1 vote makes him more likely to be scum.

Uh not really, I have seen town get frustated more often than scum. Besides it just looked like he was trying to move the game foward. But I dont like his posts in page 5 at all actually, that unvote is really scummy.

I disagree with you here on your reasoning behind Shinobi townread. If anything, I agree more with catboi here:

Shinobi strikes me as town. His frustation seems genuine and I can certainly understand it.

Lol, how? If anything, the fact that he got frustrated with an unerexplained page 1 vote makes him more likely to be scum.

VOTE: Shinobi

jeez, that selective quoting fucked everything up on Lex
pedit: I hope this post answers your questions, Spif

[JeanDarc]

And why did you vote RC in the first place if you know he acts like this as town?

my vote on RC was for rxn testing - but he seems pretty normal to me (as i said in my previous post). I do expect him to explain/follow up later on

And what did you get out of your question?
Who else is scum and why?

I have townreads on catboi and kyubei for now. Not certain on everyone else. Scorp is town lean for me at the moment

and obviously, you are my scum read

[JeanDarc]

#94 looks like something total noob town would ask

#179 continues that. Not amazing questions,but they look like they are coming from a genuine spot.

They look like questions coming from someone new to the game. Not someone that is trying to fabricate things.

there isn't much to go on,but that's my reasoning.plus a little gut..

I don't really think that "seeming genuine" is enough.
VOTE: Jean

I feel like you are simply wishy-washy voting and fos'ing practically everyone who is voting against you/disagrees with you. I am keeping my vote on you until I get a different read from your future plays. Also, you don't really seem too confident or convicted about your vote on me.

[JeanDarc]

You might want to explain your reads especially given that you are being replaced @RC

@Scorpius what do you find in particular scummy/alarming about Kyubey? He did post quite a lot of fluffy/filler post. He likes to add unnecessary verbiage to his post that makes his posts appear way longer than they could have been. That's the overall impression I got from him so far. I would say a null-read for now

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@shinobi what question(s) are they if you don't mind putting them together

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VOTE: vijay
Sounds legit.

VOTE: catboi
k I'm annoyed.

UNVOTE:
I've completely lost interest in this conversation. When you feel like being useful, let me know.

VOTE: RC
I'm happier with my vote here atm.

Pedit: This game isn't really fun so I'm not really putting my back into solving it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jean

sad thing is I expect no one's going to read that post given the playerlist

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jean

good lord lynch this

I just explained this read.
How is this not genuine scumhunting and what reads as "genuine" to you?

I can dig a switch back to RC.
VOTE: RC

#94 looks like something total noob town would ask

#179 continues that. Not amazing questions,but they look like they are coming from a genuine spot.

They look like questions coming from someone new to the game. Not someone that is trying to fabricate things.

there isn't much to go on,but that's my reasoning.plus a little gut..

I don't really think that "seeming genuine" is enough.
VOTE: Jean

Above is wishy-washy voting. Also strongly OMGUS'y
Also - analyzing the players who are voting you =! scumhunting. Priority of town player should be narrowing down their reads and focusing on a strong scumread by scumhunting rather than trying to "please everyone" or convince the people who have suspicion on you. By being defensive, it only draws more attention to yourself which can act as a distraction that scums can exploit.

[JeanDarc]

I wasn't concerned with his mistake regarding them. I more concerned how I went from town to "might be scum" so quickly..

I saw your readlist and you listed Spiffeh and my slot as town. RC is being replaced so we have time until what the new player in the same slot has to say. What would you say your next-in-line fos is?

I could put RC's slot at L-1 but I think my vote is better served by staying on Shinobi until he can somehow towntell (at least in my view).

[JeanDarc]

for mod @Ranmaru

please replace me. sorry about the late request - an oversight on my calendar.

have fun folks