MINI 1721 — ✌ — GAME OVER

[Ricastle]

VOTE: Luna Fox

Worst opening out of everyone thus far.

[Ricastle]

Penguin model music career?

This must be deciphered.

[Ricastle]

SEE! I am good at this game.

[Ricastle]

It's the same opening i do every game.
Why do you dislike it?

Because it's extremely cautious. You didn't put a vote down or say anything interesting to anyone. You basically just posted for the sake of getting a post in the thread. And that's not something I like to see.

[Ricastle]

Layla is town. MS is the scum on the wagon

[Ricastle]

Then why aren't you voting MS?

Because I'm voting his partner. MS is a weird player, and could very well be town playing like this although I do not currently hold that opinion. Luna is a far more solid D1 shot at scum.

[Ricastle]

Why do you call me weird?

You always call me town when I'm scum, and I always beat you. Maybe this time it's different??

NGL your playstyle is generally pretty scummy. But if I've learned anything from SU it's that there is a distinct, yet minor difference between your scum and town styles. And no, I am certainly not claiming to have attained a solid meta-read on you already. But I am claiming to severely dislike 38.

Actually the record for that is 1-1. And the time I read you wrong as scum was We the Purple where you were a hydra with the equally prominent Titus and it was multiball. So that barely counts.

So basically "I find Luna scummier than MS," not "because she is his partner."

@Luna: Do you have any finished games?

Not really. It's not about how scummy one appears, but how likely they are to flip scum based on their reputation. Luna has no finished games, and so far has displayed nothing but baseline scummy behaviour, which makes it more likely that she will flip scum over someone like Sonic who is known to play scummily regardless of alignment. It's really got nothing to do with how strong my respective reads are.

[Ricastle]

Yeah I was only referring to the reads part. And I don't think it was much a matter of me vs you as to why I lost those games :/ We did indeed both survive and win Zodiac.

That's a pretty reasonable response honestly. But now that you've brought the record up, I'm pretty cautious of putting you closer to the town zone so soon, lol.

I could offer some free townpoints if you sheep me on Luna though.

[Ricastle]

I want ric to at least explain his Layla townread because right now it looks to me that Layla does not know how to play scum

I don't think this is scum behaviour, especially not inexperienced scum. Isn't she an alt anyway? I thought I read that somewhere.

[Ricastle]

I think the most important question of the game is:

Is Layla's main actually male?

That would explain why there is no pronoun! :0

Well it'd be far from the first time I've seen it happen.

Fair point about Luna though. Luna, are you an alt?

[Ricastle]

All the last page did was bolster my townread on Layla. MS, what's the reasoning behind your scumread of her as 'she doesn't know how to play scum' is pretty much invalid at this point?

[Ricastle]

@108: Was there a particular player you had in mind in accordance with that?

[Ricastle]

Didn't I already mention two names?

Yeah, but let's be real here. She pretty obviously isn't ika or Constantine.

[Ricastle]

Bins, are there any of my posts that you particularly dislike? Just curious.

Bella, what do you make of Fro99er putting you in his townbloc with your only post being a naked vote on Layla?

[Ricastle]

Why do you question someone putting the IC on their townbloc?

Wait what?

...

Goodness me. How did I miss that...

[Ricastle]

I'd suck her thumb.

:3 i know, right~

What the fuck...

[Ricastle]

Yeah, I quoted them.

Mainly your certainty.

I saw that, but if that's all there is to it then...eh. Of course I don't know anyone's alignment for certain other than my own (and Bella's). But saying 'I think' before every statement I made regarding such would become extremely tedious/redundant, don't you think?

You'll also find that I, on the whole, speak the same way in all of my other games as well. So feel free to check that out if you're still in doubt.

[Ricastle]

No I know. I think it's more just a Ricastle thing with me in general. We have a fun but competitive history, and I think he's a bit paranoid about me, which actually firms up my town read on him further. Just after he scum read me then I somehow overcame Ika's meta for him to townread me in SU mafia, I think he's been wary of me. Which is fine. It's possibly (probably?) why he's wary here. IDk, I could be completely wrong...but I think I'm glad he missed the Bella confirmation so it could actually help form up my town read on him.

Not a bad analysis by any means. It could well be a case of subconscious selectivity on my part, but consciously I only brought it up because it stood out to me as quite strange considering I wasn't aware of Bella being mod-confirmed. Wouldn't it to you if you were in that position?

Still, it wouldn't surprise me at all if my actions toward you were subconsciously altered because of our game history, lol.

[Ricastle]

VOTE: draynth

"Reading now"


9 hours later: still reading 6 pages?

Of all the times I've seen this accusation brought forward I don't think I've once seen it catch scum.

[Ricastle]

What arguments have you seen catch scum?

=/=

[Ricastle]

Lol, no you don't. You sound slightly more confident/pretentious in this game,

That's funny because from where I'm standing my pretentiousness is one of the most noticeable things about me in games I am properly engaged in. And I just so happen to be standing in the shoes of the person we are discussing. Maybe admittedly not in the exact same ways each time, but it should still be pretty obvious that that's how I am.

Also, why are you only bringing this up now if it is a legitimate concern to you? And if it isn't, what do you make of it?

[Ricastle]

Try "this guy is scum cuz RC said so."

that has a way higher hit rate than "this guy is scum cuz Ricastle said so"

How's this for a hit rate?

A Simple Plan is scum cuz I said so.
Bins is scum cuz I said so.
Davsto is scum cuz I said so.
Draynth is scum cuz I said so.
Fro99er is scum cuz I said so.
Layla is scum cuz I said so.
Luna Fox is scum cuz I said so.
Metal Sonic is scum cuz I said so.
Not_Mafia is scum cuz I said so.
RadiantCowbells is scum cuz I said so.
VeeGee is scum cuz I said so.

[Ricastle]

your score would be 3/9

that's 33.33%.

fail.

That would be the case IF you assume all of those arguments were to be submitted at the same time. But if I submitted them one at a time and we lynched accordingly, if the three scum were A Simple Plan, Bins, and Davsto, it would be 100%. The only way it could be 33.33% is if the three scum were the last three mentioned. In which case, if that remained a running trend, it would eventually become near 100% if we were to lynch in reverse order! And if it's consistently higher than 33.33%, then the average hit rate would be high anyway! What do you make of that, eh?!

[Ricastle]

Okay but what if there was an infinite-shot Reviver.

[Ricastle]

There's a difference between arguing hypotheticals and just plain stupidity.

What you are doing falls into the latter.

Please stop, Ricastle.

I'm just messing around, bro. You're welcome to start advancing the gamestate if that's what you want to do!

[Ricastle]

Eh, not bad. You're going to need some reasons though.

[Ricastle]

What if it was the mod?

[Ricastle]

Hm. Luna looking a little better. Completely forgot about the double lynch as well. That removes a lot of pressure from the first lynch which is pretty good. In accordance with that,

VOTE: Metal Sonic

[Ricastle]

What did he flip?

Just look at that ISO. Man, what a thrilling read.

[Ricastle]

Why is RC still voting me? I'm really struggling to catch up and work out what is serious over fluff - Frog, Ricastle, Dave, what's going on?

Nothing is going on. It's a very boring gamestate right now. Like Fro99er, all I have is a few townreads. I'm voting MS because I suspect that scum had a hand in clogging the game and subsequently preventing meaningful information gathering from the opening stage.

[Ricastle]

What is the point of this flip question when the only reasonable answer is the person one is voting at this moment? Although I suppose it has brought attention to the fact that Fro99er has not done so. What's up with that?

Ric.

Not enough people fought me, but I like that one for info on Luna/Frog/Layla.

Mmmmmm tasty associations.

Where are you planning to go with those associations after I flip town?

Why did your scumreads on Luna and Metal weaken?

My only argument against Luna was her opening being the worst out of anyone on P1, and we're far beyond the stage where evidence of that level is acceptable for a serious scumread. Since then, I haven't seen anything that concerns me, so yeah, that doesn't exist in any capacity anymore. My vote is on MS. It's not a full-blown scumread, but I don't think it's a half-bad shot at getting one for the reasoning I previously explained. And considering we have two lynches it's not so bad if he flips town either. The only reads I am fully confident in are, indeed, townreads.

[Ricastle]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Ricastle]

Honestly, I didn't really have any specific reasoning for voting N_M. His lack of content was about it and apparently that's a towntell. Keeping my vote where it is for now, though, for the sole reason that he acknowledged said tell.

VeeGee, what are your reads?

[Ricastle]

RC annoys me, but not enough to be a scumread.

What has RC done that's annoyed you? I didn't think he was doing much of anything.

Is it a good idea to get this first lynch out of the way so that we can concentrate on the second?

Yes it is. It's better to have the majority of the day to work with new information.

[Ricastle]

For me, avatars display how one wishes to be percieved on the Internet, nothing more, nothing less. So I always view people as exactly what their avatar is, no matter how far from humanoid it may be. Makes for some pretty amusing mental images.

[Ricastle]

What is the point of playing when Fro99er comes in and says everything I wanted to say anyway. Good lord.

VOTE: A Simple Plan

MS, I see you were missing your read on me at the end of your catchup. Would you mind stating it now?

[Ricastle]

What about A Simple Plan guys? He's not V/LA anymore, hasn't done

anything

except a couple of terrible wagon-hops, and just recently used an unbelievably dumb excuse to avoid engaging at all.

Don't get me wrong, I can go for Davsto as well, but this guy seems to be the real elephant in the room here to me.

[Ricastle]

The case against him has already been established and I'm pretty sure everyone recognises that at this point. He's got 4 votes on him right now ffs. If we're going to win this, we need to broaden our horizons beyond the leading candidate so that the scum can't just herd us wherever they want. So I ask again: What do you, Bins, think about ASP?

[Ricastle]

What a page.

VOTE: Davsto

[Ricastle]

VeeGee really does seem like a simple VI at this point.

[Ricastle]

Grave stupidity

What specifically sticks out to you as gravely stupid?

[Ricastle]

Why is he town then.

[Ricastle]

*throws secret scumread on MS at Bella*

[Ricastle]

I'm getting very bad feelings from the relations between RC, MS and Davsto.

RC is supposedly certain that Dav is scum yet still appears to be in fluff mode, MS has some sort of phantom townread on Dav, and the interactions between RC & MS speak for themselves. Dav has also been completely non-aggressive and has hardly interacted with either of the other two (not counting joking around and banter), and RC, the initiator of his wagon, was the only person he didn't retaliate against that hopped on.

Interesting stuff, eh?

[Ricastle]

Great reaction. That's actually one of the most satisfying reactions I've ever seen.

[Ricastle]

What the hell Luna.

[Ricastle]

Yes, Layla is his alt.

[Ricastle]

Lynching Davsto. You'd do well to join in.

[Ricastle]

886 pretty much sums up everything that's being discussed right now, or at least the players being mainly discussed.

[Ricastle]

Come on Frogger, Dav is clearly BSing. Would vote MS over anyone else? Give me a break. Also 934 is as good as a pre-hammer concession as you can get.

[Ricastle]

Ankamius - Meh, gonna go scumlean on this one. Unvotes VeeGee, says I'm "probably scum" but doesn't actually vote. Sounds like scum pushing for a lynch but, when the VCA comes, being able to look back and go "well I didn't lynch Davsto".
Bellaphant - What do you think?
Bins - Townlean.
Yimmy - Null.
Fro99er - Not a damn clue.
Layla - Mehhhh, gonna go for a slight gut scumread.
Luna Fox - So townie it hurts
Metal Sonic - scumlean. Going for a vanity wagon by voting VeeGee, but not actually pushing it. Seems like a way to go "well I'm town because I voted against the wagon on town".
RC - Meh, something seems off here, but not sure if it's in a scummy way. Null.
Ricastle - Says a lot, but a lot of what is said is saying oddly little. Scumlean, very very slight.
VeeGee - Scumlean. 100% just sitting there and letting the wagon on me grow.

PEdit - didn't mean the comment in a scummy way, it's just irritating.

Seriously, this list is horribad. It contains exactly one solid stance not counting Bella, and most of the rest appear to have been conjured on the spot. For someone with an activity level like this guy's, there is no universe where I could buy that this comes from a town perspective.

[Ricastle]

inb4 getting scumread for changing my mind.

Paranoia.

[Ricastle]

@Fro99er: It's rubbish. Not only was ASP's ISO an easy target, but the points against his content had been made already as you brought to attention. Other than that, it's nearly empty with one of his two remaining points again having been brought up prior.

[Ricastle]

@Ricastle why are you pointing out the paranoia?

Because it's scum paranoia.

[Ricastle]

Somebody just hammer already

[Ricastle]

Lmao. What a piss-poor attempt to salvage a lost cause.

Give up, scumteam. It's over.

[Ricastle]

I wasn't addressing you, mind, you just ninjad me.

I wholeheartedly implore you to hammer, by the way. Any further discussion can be saved for tomorrow if it's even necessary, for if Dav flips scum I will consider this game 100% solved.

[Ricastle]

Oh no it's solved. At this point I'm townreading literally everyone other than Davsto, MS & RC

[Ricastle]

Ric, can you just promise me when I'm dead you'll go for metal next?

If I'm alive tomorrow, Metal is as good as dead, don't you worry. Can you promise to lynch Metal if I die?

[Ricastle]

Luna, why don't you give us your opinion on MS's case? You seem to be dancing around it.

[Ricastle]

Didn't i just do that?

No, you didn't. 1027 is the case.

[Ricastle]

I agree. Especially considering she hasn't divulged on any of those reads at all. Care to now, Layla?

Why are you voting MS?

[Ricastle]

VOTE: MS

At the end of the day, even if you do flip town, I'd rather lose with you than lose to you.

[Ricastle]

Prodge. Don't really know what to do rn.

[Ricastle]

I think I'm going to VOTE: Ankamius

MS, who did you protect last night?

[Ricastle]

Because I think they could be scum.

[Ricastle]

If you have something to say, say it

Well evidently I don't, or I would have said it just then.

[Ricastle]

Are there any claims I missed? And did Veegee already claim Doc?

Are you even-night?

[Ricastle]

Come on...are you even-night? We could bag a scum here.

[Ricastle]

We need a huge argument. That always gets the ball rolling.

Or we could just lynch Ank. Or both.

[Ricastle]

Guess first.

[Ricastle]

Ank, you're a total faker. You act like you're independent yet you haven't made a single independent move in the whole game aside from a shit light accusation against Fro99er. Every step of the way you've sheeped the popular opinion and hard buddied GIF while doing it. 1218 was you scrambling to find something to defend yourself from, and when that didn't arise, you just OMGUSed, despite the fact that a player of your level should know better than to assume an unexplained vote is scummy - especially when your vote on Bins was effectively one itself! This all adds up to the prime definition of covert coasting.

AND you replaced into the ASP slot, or in other words, the worst content in the game for obvious and previously pointed out reasons.

If anyone has objections to this lynch, I'd love to hear them; but with how this slot has behaved as a whole, I doubt many, if any will be arising.

[Ricastle]

That's all you have to say for yourself?

[Ricastle]

1. Assumes things about how GIF and I interact with each other when I gave an explanation in the thread that's provably true.

I made no assumptions about your relations with each other. I merely stated a fact.

2. Assumes that his vote on me is the reason I voted for him, despite the fact that he had made several posts between my response to his vote on me and my vote on him. Then he proceeds to try to spin a contradiction in my play from that faulty assumption.

If you'd like to clarify why you voted me, then by all means, go ahead. When there is no stated reason for something, the second best thing one can do is assume. And it's hardly like the other posts I made within that timeframe were anywhere near vote-worthy from any perspective regardless, so this isn't a remotely convincing counterargument.

3. The ASP-half of this slot's suspicion is interesting as he was claiming at the end of the second half of day one that attacking ASP was scummy because he's easy to attack.

That is not what I said; as a matter of fact, I had previously attacked ASP myself. ASP is objectively the easiest ISO to attack in the game, and my point there was that Davsto was scrambling to find a slot to make a case on, not that ASP's ISO was so bad it's town.

4. Similarly, he suddenly starts townreading this slot after I replace in, but now my play at that time is scummy.

The only time I have stated a townread on you was in the same post where I declared that I had a townread of some capacity on all players barring Davsto, MS, and RC, one of whom flipped town, and another claimed odd-night doctor. Of course I'm going to have dismantled a lot of my townreads after that.

Given that the vast majority of your response surmounts to nothing more than misrepresentative deflecting, I'll ask again: is that all you have to say for yourself?

[Ricastle]

Jesus. I thought my avatar was small, but that is just bloody ridiculous!

MS is the odd-night Doctor so unless you have something to say about that I'd advise you to hop onto the Ank wagon.

[Ricastle]

Rather, he's claimed it. All that talk about not letting him off easy and now I'm treating his claim in such a way...for shame, Castle, for shame.

[Ricastle]

Tell me more.

[Ricastle]

That player confirmation's enough for me.

VOTE: MS

[Ricastle]

You're a pretty trustworthy guy.

Ank, you're a total faker. You act like you're independent yet you haven't made a single independent move in the whole game aside from a shit light accusation against Fro99er. Every step of the way you've sheeped the popular opinion and hard buddied GIF while doing it. 1218 was you scrambling to find something to defend yourself from, and when that didn't arise, you just OMGUSed, despite the fact that a player of your level should know better than to assume an unexplained vote is scummy - especially when your vote on Bins was effectively one itself! This all adds up to the prime definition of covert coasting.

AND you replaced into the ASP slot, or in other words, the worst content in the game for obvious and previously pointed out reasons.

If anyone has objections to this lynch, I'd love to hear them; but with how this slot has behaved as a whole, I doubt many, if any will be arising.

1. Assumes things about how GIF and I interact with each other when I gave an explanation in the thread that's provably true.

I made no assumptions about your relations with each other. I merely stated a fact.

2. Assumes that his vote on me is the reason I voted for him, despite the fact that he had made several posts between my response to his vote on me and my vote on him. Then he proceeds to try to spin a contradiction in my play from that faulty assumption.

If you'd like to clarify why you voted me, then by all means, go ahead. When there is no stated reason for something, the second best thing one can do is assume. And it's hardly like the other posts I made within that timeframe were anywhere near vote-worthy from any perspective regardless, so this isn't a remotely convincing counterargument.

3. The ASP-half of this slot's suspicion is interesting as he was claiming at the end of the second half of day one that attacking ASP was scummy because he's easy to attack.

That is not what I said; as a matter of fact, I had previously attacked ASP myself. ASP is objectively the easiest ISO to attack in the game, and my point there was that Davsto was scrambling to find a slot to make a case on, not that ASP's ISO was so bad it's town.

4. Similarly, he suddenly starts townreading this slot after I replace in, but now my play at that time is scummy.

The only time I have stated a townread on you was in the same post where I declared that I had a townread of some capacity on all players barring Davsto, MS, and RC, one of whom flipped town, and another claimed odd-night doctor. Of course I'm going to have dismantled a lot of my townreads after that.

Given that the vast majority of your response surmounts to nothing more than misrepresentative deflecting, I'll ask again: is that all you have to say for yourself?

[Ricastle]

That's precisely why I'm trusting you.

Probably...Aristophanes. Both slots have been solid enough, more so than anyone else in the game, at the very least.

[Ricastle]

*slot occupants

[Ricastle]

I already went into this. Just ignoring facts to make up shit to try to make a case isn't going to win you any favors.

I don't understand. Your only citation is you claiming to be able to read GIF perfectly because you hydra'd with them, yet this relation only appears to me as being one-way. How is your ability to read GIF relevant when that only applies if you're town, and I'm trying to peg you as the opposite? How is that not what one could call hard buddying?

What facts have I ignored and what have I made up?

If you were town and wanted to know why I was voting for someone, you'd analyze what happened between my vote post and the next post before it. You'd eventually figure out that BBMolla's entrance both began and concluded between those two posts and that you had posted about it twice. If you were as clueless as to why I was suddenly voting for you, you would have attempted to figure it out instead of placing a vote down and calling it a day, especially after I specifically asked if you had something to say about your vote.

I voted you before you voted me. That's the whole point...?

Ok, so what exactly changed in your overall reads then?

Is that meaningful information for you?

Attempting to brute force the wagon through. Scummy.

Feel free to challenge my accusation. Because until you do I'm going to assume I made a correct assertion.

That last post by Yimmy is pretty bad ftr. Now I'm going to sleep.

[Ricastle]

I specifically stated when I realized GIF was in the game that he was a high-priority sort. I've hydra'd with him in the past and know how he thinks as town. Put the two together and you get me wanting to and being able to read him. This is all implied just by my posts when I was asked about it.

Yes, and I already recognised all of that. That doesn't change or answer anything I said.

No, it's not. I specifically wanted to see if you had anything to say after you voted me; the fact that you specifically didn't try to get me to fill in the blanks before just making up nonsense to put in there instead doesn't sit right with me at all.

Now you're raising an entirely different point. Your previous post came with the implication that I voted you after you voted me; otherwise, it would make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I've never been clueless as to why you voted me - I've always considered it to be pretty obvious. So I really don't get what you were saying there or how this relates to it.

Again, WHAT have I made up? It really annoys me when people make this accusation because it's almost always a buzzterm.

If you can't show that your reads changed at that point, then your response to my point about your read on ASP's posting changing is bogus.

Lmao. First off, it's logic 101 that if one of the only three people I am not townreading in some capacity flips town, and there are three scum alive, then one or more of the people I was townreading is actually scum. I don't need to show anything. It's a literal fact that my reads would have changed to some extent.

Secondly, I never said I liked ASP's posting. You actually seem to be intentionally painting this narrative considering I debunked this myth in my last response. ASP's play was very bad, the worst in the game, in fact. But no matter how bad one's play is, it always has a possibility of coming from town, and if there is evidence to believe so, a replacement in this instance, then I'll accept that the previous slot's play was simply bad town. If I believe that replacement's play is scummy, however, then I sure as shit will bring up the previous slot's bad play as a point against them. That is the volatile nature of such play.

Because my last few posts in response to you weren't exactly that, right?

I meant this specific point, obviously. Good lord.

You seem more invested in winding your way around my arguments using whatever means possible rather than actually pushing your own through. So I think I'm going to return here. VOTE: Ankamius

[Ricastle]

The ball's in your court, by the way

[Ricastle]

Willing to hammer.

[Ricastle]

Not really. This lynch is most likely going to be our first of the day regardless of what I do, and I think Yimmy is decently scummy. Also, even if he does flip town, that's then more evidence against Ank.

[Ricastle]

Intent

[Ricastle]

Four more hours is 2 AM for me. I'll give you another two.

[Ricastle]

And I just so happen to be in the giving spirit.

VOTE: Yimmy

[Ricastle]

Also feel free to hammer at will

Implores an instant hammer yet neglects to do so himself. Noted for later.

[Ricastle]

Yeah, I just noticed. Must've missed a page because I swear he was on Luna in the last one

[Ricastle]

What the FUCK? How was any of that remotely convincing? It was a load of fucking nothing combined with incomprehensible rambling that lead nowhere!

The first point holds no weight considering I hadn't made any other game-relevant posts between my vote and that post. Also, the reason I haven't mentioned it since is because Ank immediately conceded the accusation and didn't address it once in the entire 1v1! Even now he's twisting it to his advantage without addressing what is a true fucking fact!

Second point, empty and worthless, we went over this repeatedly in the 1v1 and it pretty much surmounted in this point being revealed to be a load of bullshit. Feel free to check that out instead of being an idiot or scum, you three. Although it amazes me that this argument as it appears here could convince anyone anyway.

Third point is a complete twisting of events and makes me think his second vote on me was purely to raise this 'point' later on. Because guess what...his second vote was not only laid down

while he was already voting me

, but it was laid down the very post after my case! I couldn't have factored it in because at the time it hadn't even fucking happened, and Ank knows it!

Fourth point is a blatant misrep. I didn't say Ank OMGUSed, I said he made an unexplained vote on Bins, which is TRUE! Who cares if he pulled up a quote for why he may be voting her? Everyone has reasons to vote who they vote for at this stage. It's an elementary assumption, and it doesn't change that I stated a fact!

And the fifth point is a lengthy repetition intended purely to rile up town to vote for me. Much worse than anything I've ever done this game and still a load of bullshit.

Firstly on the last point, of course your previous slot is indefensible - that's not on me, it's a simple truth. You're twisting a point you can't hope to defend against because ASP's play was factually bad into me forcing the wagon through fallaciously! Secondly, I'm not discrediting anybody. A discredit would be "but I doubt the ones that arise, if any considering this slot's overall behaviour, will hold water". What I actually said would not impact any response to my case that arose in any way!

There has to be at least two scum on my wagon. Any less, and I'm in full agreement with RC that this town is far too disillusioned and lazy to have a chance of winning.

VOTE: Ankamius

And here's the newest explanation for my vote: All of the manipulative fuckery I just dismantled, and the fact that you are clearly disappointed somehow about your scumread coming to L-1 yet you're ready and willing to hammer! I guarantee you he will bring that up in some butchered capacity later on.

[Ricastle]

You keep stating that your points are facts and are indisputable, yet this one specifically needs to be backed up to have any weight behind it. I have no idea what you're even talking about in the first sentence, the last one is ironic as hell, and the reason I never addressed it before is because there's nothing to address. You're literally making a vague statement that has no merit without backing.

Okay, sure. First off, you entered the game by joining the Davsto wagon. Then you sheeped GIF by attacking MS, Yimmy, and Bins in that order at separate intervals. The only other people you've even

mentioned

in regards to reads are those who have attacked you (me and Fro99er). It's a totally self-sufficient mindset. You're not interested in legitimately solving this game; that is clear. Merely with blending in and coasting as best you can with a reliable scumread keeping you comfortably engaged.

Let's look at the two things he stated in the earlier 1v1 about me and GIF:

1. I hard-buddied GIF while sheeping overall reads.
2. When I stated that I put GIF on a higher priority to sort than other players and got town from a single ISO, his response is literally that the point doesn't work because that would assume that I'm town.

This is literally him saying that a point that would indicate I'm town doesn't count because he thinks I'm scum

. Logic doesn't work like that.

Alright, I'll concede one thing. That being, I was not clear enough about what I meant when I referenced you hard buddying GIF.

I was referring entirely to your reads

. You brought up what I considered to be an irrelevant point about you gaining your read which is why my response was worded in such a way.

Ank, you're a total faker. You act like you're independent yet you haven't made a single independent move in the whole game aside from a shit light accusation against Fro99er. Every step of the way you've sheeped the popular opinion and hard buddied GIF while doing it. 1218 was you scrambling to find something to defend yourself from, and when that didn't arise, you just OMGUSed, despite the fact that a player of your level should know better than to assume an unexplained vote is scummy - especially when your vote on Bins was effectively one itself! This all adds up to the prime definition of covert coasting.

AND you replaced into the ASP slot, or in other words, the worst content in the game for obvious and previously pointed out reasons.

If anyone has objections to this lynch, I'd love to hear them; but with how this slot has behaved as a whole, I doubt many, if any will be arising.

VOTE: Ricastle

You cannot be serious.

YOU JUST PROVED MY FUCKING POINT.

What is right smack in the middle?

BBMolla's replace-in and gambit.

You posted twice in the middle of that whole debacle, and your entire contribution to it was trying to fish out all the information about the claim that you could. The moment I saw that, I immediately got the sense that you had ulterior motives for trying to fish the claim since I can't see town wanting to fish out the details of a claim that comes out of basically nowhere, but I can definitely see scum doing this because they know the slot isn't part of their team.

My inquiry was wether Molla was even-night or not. If you were reading the game at all, you would know that MS claimed odd-night Doctor. Do you HONESTLY not see why I would find it a necessity to clarify his claim in such a scenario? No, you're not stupid, clearly, and you are reading. And so remains one option. You are

scum

who knows that the only way they can win this argument is by hiding, twisting, and intentionally misinterpreting the facts regarding the events that have occurred. Simple as fucking that.

[Ricastle]

No, that isn't happening. Unvote please. A no lynch is better than my lynch.

[Ricastle]

VOTE: BBMolla

[Ricastle]

Thanks for modding, Marquis.

Ok now time to wipe this game from memory.