Mini-Normal 1713: Mystery Mansion Mafia (GAME OVER)

[GrayFoxxxx]

/confirm

[GrayFoxxxx]

Whstde your issue with naked voting?

VOTE: Jake

Whstde

[GrayFoxxxx]

Was it really a gambit though?

[GrayFoxxxx]

Like akas last post. Gives reasoning that's easy to follow, and follows up with a vote instead of just pointing fingers.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Back on topic,

I think Wolfie and Expedience (Expy?) are being silly in thinking of this as some daring gambit. It's a simple joke that plenty of people as either alignment do all the time. "Practically confirmed town" is ridiculous.

It's weird that the gambit language has been repeated so much. And Wolfie looks like she has a lot more experience, it's weird that she'd buy into this kind of logic if she were actually trying to figure out if Slandaar were town or scum.

VOTE: SilverWolf

Definitely agreeing here.

Slandaar's comment and the other person's follow up was blatantly a joke, and why people are actually voting on the two based on that is beyond me. It's like super-reaching, trying to find evidence when there's nothing.

VOTE: SilverWolf

It's looks like you are linking the other 2 players voting Slandaar, with your reason for voting SW.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I don't see what's wrong with 68, I also don't think the joke by slandaar is alignment indicative at all, especially given the stunts I've seen on this site.

@wanderer, why don't you like 68?

[GrayFoxxxx]

UNVOTE:

Don't wanna be on this wagon. Going to do some posting soon.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Analysis incoming

[GrayFoxxxx]

Analysis still formatting

[GrayFoxxxx]

I'm VT. Meh.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I have a question for Grayfoxxxx, and that is I want him to claim. Now.

VOTE: Grayfoxxxx

All will be revealed once he does. If he gives the answer I expect, I've found scum.

I am interested in this though.

Pedit:holy shit well I guess I was doc protected. Unless Dav lying.

[GrayFoxxxx]

UNVOTE: GrayFox

Davsto, you haven't considered all the possibilities there. You could have been blocked.

Or this

[GrayFoxxxx]

Although I definitely think Gfox is a viable lynch for today, regardless.

Lol

[GrayFoxxxx]

But, at any rate, GrayFox: let's talk about why you were so incredibly absent Yesterday that someone tried to vig you.

I can't speak for others. Someone said he was a rolecop? How could he shoot me?

[GrayFoxxxx]

But, at any rate, GrayFox: let's talk about why you were so incredibly absent Yesterday that someone tried to vig you.

I can't speak for others. Someone said he was a rolecop? How could he shoot me?

He explicitly claimed last page. Keep up, man.

326

[GrayFoxxxx]

I want to know what Mario meant by 326 before I really react to this

[GrayFoxxxx]

Did Dav claim rolecop before claiming vig or something? I'm looking through his iso now

[GrayFoxxxx]

Oh ok...

[GrayFoxxxx]

326

I know where you saw the word 'rolecop', I'm just saying read all the posts.

What post do you think I'm not reading?

[GrayFoxxxx]

The D1 lynch was rushed. Real life happened to me and I couldn't keep up with the D1 mislynch..

"Delay showing his hand". I'm being completely open here.

Saying that is a little devious of you.

[GrayFoxxxx]

What post do you think I'm not reading?

Well, I don't know why anyone who'd read Davsto's 322 (his explicit vig claim) and 326 in sequence would come out of it thinking that Davsto was claiming rolecop. One was Davsto claiming, and the other was Mario reacting to that claim by saying that what he thought was being hinted at (rolecop) wasn't actually the case. It reads really obviously to me,

but if you were confused,

that's fine. I don't think that this is

as big a deal as the number of posts that we're taking to communicate this would imply.

Yea just a little confused.

It's a big deal? Oh ok.

[GrayFoxxxx]

The D1 lynch was rushed. Real life happened to me and I couldn't keep up with the D1 mislynch..

Do you believe Davsto's claim? Do you think you were a reasonable target for a town vig? Who do you think is scum?

"Delay showing his hand". I'm being completely open here.

Saying that is a little devious of you.

You said that you wanted to delay reacting to a claimed vig on you.

I guess I believe it. No reason no to.

How is explaining I don't have a good read yet "delaying my hand"? At least in the negative context you placed it?

[GrayFoxxxx]

I want to know what Mario meant by 326 before I really react to this

Then wth is this?

Admitting I don't have a good read on the situation.

It's not like I did have a read and said "I'm not tellin you right now"

[GrayFoxxxx]

Why are you bolding the parts of my sentence that make it look as if it didn't start with "I don't think..."?

Unnecessary. I mean it's there for everyone to see.

Do you think I had an agenda by not including it.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Question mark

[GrayFoxxxx]

On mobile so posts are coming out ugly.

[GrayFoxxxx]

@Grayfox: I'd like that analysis from you now.

I'm sitting in a lobby, just trying to get in some quick play.

I'm not about to write up a whole reads list

now

.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Why are you bolding the parts of my sentence that make it look as if it didn't start with "I don't think..."?

Unnecessary. I mean it's there for everyone to see.

Do you think I had an agenda by not including it.

I mean, I literally can't tell what you're implying. You quote it, bolding that particular part, then say "It's a big deal? OK." That makes it look like I'm saying it was a big deal, when my meaning was the exact opposite. I just actually don't understand what you meant by that post.

What if I wasn't implying anything?

[GrayFoxxxx]

YOU implied I made it a big deal for some reason. I haven't implied anything.

It's like you are looking for ANYTHING I'm doing to be scummy. Even if that means ignoring my words, and forcing that I was "implying something".

[GrayFoxxxx]

@Grayfox: I'd like that analysis from you now.

I'm sitting in a lobby, just trying to get in some quick play.

I'm not about to write up a whole reads list

now

.

Wait, you mean you didn't have any of it written? At all?

Didnt?

[GrayFoxxxx]

How is explaining I don't have a good read yet "delaying my hand"? At least in the negative context you placed it?

If I'm town in your position, my reaction isn't complicated. Someone asks me to claim, fine, I claim VT, knowing that anything incriminating on me is not accurate. By that point, Davsto had already explicitly claimed a vig shot on you, while Mario is the only one who's ever mentioned a rolecop. Even if a rolecop is involved, you still don't have anything much to which to react; you're a VT, this is all basic, any inaccuracies are on their end. I don't know why you would need to delay reacting to something (your words) when the relevant claims are already out.

If I were mafia in your position, though, it wouldn't be that cut-and-dried. By knowing what powers the mafia group has, I might know more about what could be going wrong here than I would if I were a VT - maybe the mafia has a rolecop and you're confused that the word has entered the thread before that rolecop has flipped. Maybe you're worrying that your claim is no longer going to stand up to scrutiny. Whatever it is, you know that it'll be easier to say something that fits together to avoid incriminating you once all the information is out; that's a concern that a real VT doesn't share.

I'm not saying that that's definitely what happened, but that post of yours implies to me that there's a thought process going on beyond 'I'm a VT, who else fucked this up' so I find it suspicious.

I've said I was confused by the role cop thing from mario. It's been explained, and I gave my read on the situation.
No grand implications that you keep mentioning.

[GrayFoxxxx]

YOU implied I made it a big deal for some reason. I haven't implied anything.

It's like you are looking for ANYTHING I'm doing to be scummy. Even if that means ignoring my words, and forcing that I was "implying something".

Dude. Calm down. I would have said if I thought that part made you scummy. Even at the moment, I'm still trying to figure out what I think of what you're saying and doing.

It just got to the point where we were taking five or six posts, back and forth, to clarify whether or not you'd read one post, and the reason why I posted to say it wasn't a big deal was because I intended to stop talking about it and wanted you to know why. Even right now, I think this part of our conversation is a giant miscommunication that's distracting from useful things. So I'm just going to drop it now, because I'm going out anyway. What I think is important here is the other stuff about which I'm talking.

You also didn't respond to the part where I asked who you thought was scum. That's important, too. Who do you think is scum?

Calm what down?

Ok let's drop it then. Sounds good.

Sure. SW and wanderer are my top 2 scum picks.

[GrayFoxxxx]

What post do you think I'm not reading?

Well, I don't know why anyone who'd read Davsto's 322 (his explicit vig claim) and 326 in sequence would come out of it thinking that Davsto was claiming rolecop. One was Davsto claiming, and the other was Mario reacting to that claim by saying that what he thought was being hinted at (rolecop) wasn't actually the case. It reads really obviously to me,

but if you were confused,

that's fine. I don't think that this is

as big a deal as the number of posts that we're taking to communicate this would imply.

Yea just a little confused.

It's a big deal? Oh ok.

Basically, you highlighted a bit where he said "it's a big deal", and said "oh it's a big deal?" Totally ignoring the negative before it. You're basically doing what the news did in the second Scooby-Doo live action film.

Nah. I was ignoring the fact that I was being painted as the one making it a big deal.

[GrayFoxxxx]

@GrayFox

Sure. SW and wanderer are my top 2 scum picks.

These are your top two scum picks but what i'm finding hard to believe is that Davsto is not in your top scum reads as well, considering you said this:

Pedit:holy shit well I guess I was doc protected. Unless Dav lying.

Do you believe that it is more likely that you were protected or that Davsto is lying?
If the former, why would the Doctor protect you?

I spoke before thinking in that quote. Didn't consider someone RBing him.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Stating intent to hammer on Expedience

I'm backing up the intent.

VOTE: Davsto
That hammer was horrible, man.

VOTE: Wanderer-nl

This is part of my read in him as well

[GrayFoxxxx]

VOTE: wanderer

[GrayFoxxxx]

VOTE: wanderer

So why didn't you do this before?
If you can defend yourself why the fuck can't you give reads?

"Delaying my hand".

Jokes aside, I'm not in a position to quote, edit, and format anything right now.

That's why the fuck

[GrayFoxxxx]

I like to provide reasoning while dropping a big list.

You know, go ahead and skip the "BUT WHY?", part of the process.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I like to provide reasoning while dropping a big list.

You know, go ahead and skip the "BUT WHY?", part of the process.

Which you could answer while at home. Opinions and votes are important to get out there.
Just because you like to do something shouldn't make it necessary.

I'm being realistic. It's not so much about what I "want" to do.

[GrayFoxxxx]

In terms of what has happened. I find it unlikely that scum-Davsto would do this as a gambit so chances are he's town.

I'm still not sure on GrayFox, his play on day 1 was definitely scummy. The fact that he kept avoiding the game with reasons such as "analysis still formating" is obviously bullshit. I don't see the town motivation for playing like that (town-GrayFox could've easily replaced out if he didn't want to play) but there are clear scum motivations for it.

Regarding Davsto's claim on GrayFox, i'm not completely sure on it yet. GrayFox/Davsto could've been in Jail or Davsto could've been Role-blocked. I find it highly unlikely that a Doctor would protect GrayFox though.

Amounts to you can't lurk if you are town.

I've had this debate so many times, it hurts.

[GrayFoxxxx]

We won't ask why if you promise to elaborate later, how's that?

That's nice of you.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Wow, that's a lot of pages fast.

Despite not being super towny yesterday, Davsto's play makes 0 sense coming from scum. Even if we just followed him onto a mislynch, he'd be dead the next day, definitely not worth it. Davsto is definitely town.

Gray, you're posting a lot, but most of it is not actually contributing anything. Town can lurk (I can be a bit lurky) but there's a difference between that and avoiding taking stances on anything.

Delibird makes a good point about your insisting on delaying for time to think in regards to Mario's comment about a rolecop. Mario wouldn't have any reason to actually

know

Davsto was a rolecop, so it clearly had no bearing on Davsto's ability to shoot you.

If you're going to post from the phone a lot, why not post something about the game, even without quotes/formatting?

No idea what the vote count is, but Foxxxxy is my preferred lynch at the moment.

I was confused about current game state, from lack of reading. I've admitted it. Why are you stuck on it? There is nothing else I could add to this.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I don't think we are going to be able to get grayfoxxxx's alignment

Again it's VT

[GrayFoxxxx]

I don't think we are going to be able to get grayfoxxxx's alignment

Again it's VT

I'm not talking about your role. I'm talking about your alignment.

They aren't related?

Brb, readjusting whole Mafia understanding.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I don't think we are going to be able to get grayfoxxxx's alignment

Again it's VT

I'm not talking about your role. I'm talking about your alignment.

They aren't related?

Brb, readjusting whole Mafia understanding.

Alignment is quite simple: Mafia or Not Mafia or 3P.

Roles are anything: Doc, vig, cop, etc. etc. etc.

If you are truly a VT, you should of been here in this thread obvtowning the fuck out of yourself trying to draw the NK.

You have one day to prove yourself.

Unless there is a VT mafia, I don't see how this is applicable to me.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Also if I could "Obv town myself" don't you think that I would do that regardless of role/alignment?

[GrayFoxxxx]

I say thay to say-

Telling someone to Obv town themselves is almost comical. It can't be done.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Also if I could "Obv town myself" don't you think that I would do that regardless of role/alignment?

Nope, not necessarily. I don't want to get into the reasons on this right now. If you really want to know what I mean, ask post game and I'll explain it more. I IC In the newbie queue and love explaining shit like this to people and I am always open to that.

Ok...I guess...

[GrayFoxxxx]

Also if I could "Obv town myself" don't you think that I would do that regardless of role/alignment?

Nope, not necessarily. I don't want to get into the reasons on this right now. If you really want to know what I mean, ask post game and I'll explain it more. I IC In the newbie queue and love explaining shit like this to people and I am always open to that.

Ok...I guess...

It's for the best. If I explained how scum/town/VT's/PR's should behave in games right now, I don't think that would help the game and may even be harmful. But if you want to know, I'll explain it to you the best I can any other time.

I'm just saying WIFOM. But I'll ask you after game, maybe you can enlighten me to something new.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I agree we need to figure out Grayfox' alignment and that's more important than his role, but saying VT isn't necessarily town aligned sounds odd to me too. I feel like Grayfox is comepletely missing the other point made by Silverwolf.

Lol you "feel like?"

I've made it pretty clear.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I honestly think grayfoxxxx believes if he claims VT, that means he's town. Like, I think he really believes that and he may actually be town for thinking like this.

Ok sorry I have to ask.

Am I supposed to think I'm NOT town if I'm VT. I mean the role is Vanilla

Townie

.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Ok Jesus don't hammer so I can atleast get my vote reasoning out there. 24 hours tops. Going to try and do it while watching Ravens game if I can.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Can Grayfox just be force-replaced so I can at least have a decent 1v1? Because it would suck BIG TIME to lose this to an inactive player and it would even suck more if Grayfox turns out to be town as well.

Grayfoxx has been prodded

Im on VLA until tommorow?
Posting then.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Didn't mean to type that as a question.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Mod Note: Grayfoxxxx on V/LA for Three Days. Akarin has been Prodded.

[GrayFoxxxx]

grrrrrr...................grayfoxxxx is posting elsewhere and hasn't done jack shit here despite promising several times. Fuck that shit.

Contribute or die.

VOTE: grayfoxxxx

Really? It was 4 mins after I posted when you say this? My scum read in you is getting stronger. Reads coming now.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Town:
Dav
CD
Mario
Aka
All alone
Wanderer
Absta
Performer
SilverWolf
Scum:

In that order.

[GrayFoxxxx]

CD seems to be using the clearest logic. Easy to understand

Posting from phone short posts incoming.

[GrayFoxxxx]

For reasons I cant discuss at this time, SW is scum.

Current game related reasons:
The push on me is bad. The last post was just terrible. It just solidified my scum read. Her posts are lengthy, but it seems like a student trying to meet a word count.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Posting from phone short posts incoming.

Empty reads list does nothing for me. Explain each one of these reads.

[GrayFoxxxx]

400 - what is grok?
409 - a VT Mafia??
410 - if someone says "obvtown," they better back that up fast with a good explanation
419 – Wanderer, he mentioned a VT Mafia, which makes no sense

The conversation was clear, and you trying to frame it this way screams scum.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Davs claim puts him where he us on my list.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I don't like Marios read on me but he has been consistent at the least. I also didn't like the wagon that formed on him.

[GrayFoxxxx]

All alone is my big null. Don't gave much to say about him either way.

[GrayFoxxxx]

*doesn't give

[GrayFoxxxx]

Absta is explaining reads, but I don't really agree with them.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Actually put Absta above wanderer

[GrayFoxxxx]

I sort of like wanderers D2 posts alot more than D1. For some reason the ISO's arent completely coming up.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Seeking a Replacement for Akarin who has asked to be replaced.

Ok just read this

[GrayFoxxxx]

Seeking a Replacement for Akarin who has asked to be replaced.

Ok just read this

Does that mean you're done?

I don't follow

[GrayFoxxxx]

Seeking a Replacement for Akarin who has asked to be replaced.

Ok just read this

Does that mean you're done?

[/b]
I don't follow

I asked you several questions. I'm not sure how you missed them. You gave no real detail on the reasons for your reads or any opinions on others, etc. I know you are capable of this yet are choosing to be evasive and making excuses. It might as well have just been a random list you plugged some people's names into. This is not town behavior. I'm comfortable with my vote.

It's obv I meant the bolded portion. But sure, twist my words.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I know he's posting elsewhere

You keep saying this like it's some big deal

If he's town VT, he's basically playing against town wincon and throwing the game for town.

Again with the town VT thing. Never heard of a Mafia VT. Also I'm throwing the game for town?? Jesus dont give me so much credit. This looks like scum trying to cover their self when they succeed in getting a mislynch

I will also add he called me scum because of reasons he can't discuss and that my posts are lengthy. I asked him to elaborate. He didn't. Plus, he didn't vote for me. He called Performer scum by copying one of his posts and never explained further when asked. He noted Akarin is going to be replaced and said nothing about that slot, even though he was asked why. He's still voting wanderer, probably because if that lynch goes through he doesn't care, etc. etc. etc. If you'd like me to go through his ISO and point out why he's scum I will but it's pretty obvious at this point.

live in a world where you think I'm town. Who else is scum?

GrayFox, are you still posting on your phone? You seem to be having several instances of your meaning not being taken from very short posts. I think people would find a longer post putting your current thoughts in one place, clearly explained, instructive.

Right now I'm pretty confused about what I want done. Broadly speaking, I think Wanderer, Performer and GrayFox have had the three scummiest behaviours in the game but I'm unsettled by the fact those three people just happen to be the only people with wagons. Scum supports at least one of their deaths. I'm also going back and forth on some of them (GrayFox in particular; I can definitely see his behaviour as being disengaged town, but there's also been a couple of moments which look scummier).

On a lot of levels, I don't disagree with you. Note that when I replaced in I immediately thought that GrayFox was probably scum. I totally understand why he's getting votes, but some of what you're describing, while not good behaviour, is behaviour that I have seen from town as well, and I still come back to a couple of moments that hint at a town mindset (can't link right now but mentioned it in my iso a couple of times). I'm really, really angry at his play no matter what faction he is, but I don't know that I'm convinced.

Angry? Wasn't it you who told me to calm down a while back?

Anyway, sorry I'm not living up to the ideals that have been set. My reads are there. You are right in sayING I'm not that involved mentally. Atleast not as much as I could be. But my reads are genuine, and I'm pretty sure SW is scum.

[GrayFoxxxx]

VOTE: SW

[GrayFoxxxx]

Willing to hammer perform

[GrayFoxxxx]

awfully eager to lynch Performer..

Lol

[GrayFoxxxx]

I think I"m just going to ignore you as long as we are both in the game grayfoxxxx and if you are town, I'll consider blacklisting you. I hate playing with players like you if you are town. It frustrates me to no end because I play to win and I'm tired of VI players being left alive to endgame because scum will never kill them, and then fucking over town while I watch helplessly from the dead thread feeling like I wasted my time and effort trying to win. When you are town, you play for your entire team, not just yourself. If you are just going to fuck off and do nothing, replace out.

If you are scum, I have no problem with your play because acting like a VI and pushing my buttons is playing to your wincon.

This sounds like you think I'm town, but don't like me.

If you ARE town, this post sucks. Just saying I'm playing badly, with a little AtE.

Stop telling me to replace out. Not going to happen.

Haven't we gone through this before?
How did that turn out for you?
I would elaborate but it's against site rules right now.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Looks like you are trying to tell the town
"Forget if he is town/scum. Lynch him because I don't like his playstyle this game. Also blacklisting blah blah..."

[GrayFoxxxx]

The logic of the game is that we lynch scum.

Thank you

[GrayFoxxxx]

Woah he's got 3 votes in less than 24 hours, and has been L-1 for less than 6. I'm all for a hammer, but give him some time.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Ok cool

[GrayFoxxxx]

Nice job, CDB.

VOTE: Octopus

Also, now I'm pretty damn sure the other scum is Grayfoxxxx. The mixture of the "woah slow down" on a wagon which was scum and the first part of Performer's final post which reads so damn much like distancing makes me at least 90% sure it is Grayfoxxxx. That's the lynch for tomorrow.

My last "ok cool" post was sarcasm. Performs last post look like super WIFOM, and is actually making me rethink my view on SW.

Pls consider other lynches for tommorow.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I'm cool for a Octo lynch, pending a little reading.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Ok looks like you can't be convinced. I hate that.
I'm sure I'll be voting for octo, just want to reread a bit before I drop the vote.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Pls consider other lynches for tommorow.

Something about this sentence in particular rubs me the wrong way, and I can't quite pin down why. Making a note to see why.

Something about this post in particular rubs me the wrong way, and I can't figure out why.

/s

[GrayFoxxxx]

But really,

I say think about another lynch, and you didnt like it?

I know youre pretty much conf town, but you tunneling me isn't very smart.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Vote Count 2.10

Performer (6) - Wanderer-nl, All Alone , Davsto, absta101, Channeldelibird, SilverWolf
Wanderer-nl (2) - Performer, Octopus
Grayfoxx (1) - MarioManiac4
SilverWolf (1) - Grayfoxxx



Not Voting - No one

With 6 votes Performer

A mafia goon

has been lynched![/b]

Deadline is 9/22/2015 at 7:02 AM EST

Ok so looking at this, I'm guessing 2 Mafia off of performer wagon.

ConfscumPerformer

,

Octo

, and Mario.

Mario is scum.

And 1 scum bussed.

I think SW or All alone is the final scum.

Need to reread wanderer and absta.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Vote Count 3.00

Octopus (5) - Channeldelibird, Davsto, Wanderer-nl, Mariomaniac4, Octopus



Not Voting - SilverWolf, absta101, All Alone, Grayfoxxxx

With 5 votes & Town's infinite wisdom, Octopus

The Vanilla Town

has been lynched!

Since Day Three was short, Night three will have a nerfed deadline.

Deadline is 9/23/2015 @ 12:00 AM EST.

....And that's the bottom line...cause the Mod said so.

Mario on this one, puts him at L-1 knowing he will self hammer. Wanderer on it too.

No other votes, I'm not sure both scum would jump on that mislynch so fast... I'm pretty sure mario is scum here.

[GrayFoxxxx]

VOTE: Mario

Im looking at wanderers more recent posts. (Specifically the one about me and octo) and it looks towny.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Performer voting wanderer also seems like wanderer is town here

[GrayFoxxxx]

Can anyone else see SW as scum here?

[GrayFoxxxx]

UNVOTE:

Scum look to be pulling fast lynches. Consider my vote still on mario, I just want to see more from others

[GrayFoxxxx]

Vote Count 2.08

Performer (3) - Wanderer-nl, All Alone , Davsto
Wanderer-nl (2) - Grayfoxxxx, Performer
Grayfoxx (2) - MarioManiac4, SilverWolf




Not Voting (3) -ChannelDelibird, Octopus, absta101

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is 9/25 at 6:57 AM EST.

This makes me think wanderer is town too. Look where my scum picks are.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I don't like Marios read on me but he has been consistent at the least. I also didn't like the wagon that formed on him.

What are you talking about? There's no wagon on him.

Absta is explaining reads, but I don't really agree with them.

Speaking of absta, did you read my 496 ? First you do something pro-town, asking me to put up a vote and scumhunt, that's what I did. I wouldn't be voting if I wasn't ready to name a good candidate. Now you're stating I'm scummy. That's contradictory. Did you even go through my ISO?

@Gray what do you disagree with , in terms of his reads?

@Silv - I'm VT.
-----

This follow-up by Gray isn't sounding too logical to me. Fine with either a Wand/Gray lynch today.
Very curious to hear what the replacement for Ms. County Fair, will have say.
CDB, thoughts?

In this post perform pushes me to talk about absta. Not sure scum would cast light on a partner like that.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Ok getting tired and still phone posting more 2morrow

[GrayFoxxxx]

Actually, I just found something I noted down last night.

I'm cool for a Octo lynch, pending a little reading.

I'm sure I'll be voting for octo, just want to reread a bit before I drop the vote.

I don't like Gray staying off the wagon here. I feel like he was staying off a wagon he knew was town to get towncred.
Along with all of the other things we've said time and time again, I feel this is the best option today.
VOTE: Grayfoxxxx

Jesus christ

[GrayFoxxxx]

Don't like that SW puts Mario at L-2 and then says don't put him at L-1. Why vote him in the first place, if you are scared of that? So SW is saying absta is the other scum. Going to look at interactions.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Don't like that SW puts Mario at L-2 and then says don't put him at L-1. Why vote him in the first place, if you are scared of that? So SW is saying absta is the other scum. Going to look at interactions.

Right, I'm a cop with a guilty on Mario. Of course, I'm gonna vote him. I figured with my rant at the beginning of the day, my warning about not putting him at L-1, and after the turbolynch yesterday, town would be smart enough to hold back and if a quickhammer happened, the last scum would give themselves away.

You see, I don't do anything without a purpose. Try thinking outside the box once in awhile.

Never questioned the initial vote. But mixing that with "no one else vote him right now is wierd".

I understand doing either separately.

It's counter active.

Anyway, going to continue analysis of ISO'S

Ok I'm sold on SW being town.

More later

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Absta, why didn't you vote mario?

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Why bring up godfather?

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Welp GG

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I hope

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Gg

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JESUS CHRIST THE MAFIA TEAM HAD SUCH LOW EXPECTATIONS FOR ME D: