Micro 530: Auction Mafia II Final!

[lane0168]

Hello all! First things first. Anyone who quick hammers will be getting my vote and it will remain there, unmoved, until you are dead. Just do everyone knows.

VOTE: hellbringer

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VOTE: Orcknight

I don't know about you guys, but I won't be bidding today. I think it's pretty likely that the roles up for auction will get increasingly powerful as the days go on.

I doubt it. They didn't last game, and if they get more powerful as there are less people in the game, then their power is multiplied. I was waiting for a vig or something last game. It never came lol

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And dammit, theres role pms

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Evening all,

VOTE: Hellbringer

Scum confirmed!

@Lucky - Nice, 4 items this time! ^^

Someone wants my attention.

Don't pick on the newb.

I don't like that first post without a RVS vote.
VOTE: Flubbernugget

Who's the newb?

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It's a hydra. And I hope you'll only be answering questions when you think it's so obvious there would be no consequences to answering for the one the question is intended

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Seems pretty weird they have inexperienced players from off site jumping straight into hydra themes. But that's none of my business I suppose. Probably shouldn't expect much from that head then

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@pebbo, yeah I don't have a problem with answering questions like that.

And thanks for the clarification vedith

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VOTE: Ricastle - I'll just RVS on the most recent poster then.

Anyway, hey folks, are we coming up with any visit strategy or all just going into it blind?

Oh will you... just rvs on most recent poster. Thanks for the awkward explanation...

VOTE: orcknight

What is this visiting thing you speak of??

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HELLLLOOOOO let's get this game going eh?

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Are you an alt pepto? And there's not much to talk about it really...

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And are you sure all alones vote is rvs?

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Yeah I just asked the alt thing cause I didn't see a newbie game at first. Just looked straight at the bottom of your topics. Disregard. A no content imo after that seemed not rvs. Only he can say.

Ok helz, start the game off right. How do you suppose we coordinate? Look I can do it too... watch.

Alright guys. I suggest we scum hunt. That way we will win... (insert no attempt at "starting the game off right" here)

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How do you go about finding scum in the beginning of a game with nothing to base anything off of... teach us

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And you clearly didn't read the first game... correct?

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And you don't think scum would want roleblocker? Cause that's clearly the only logical scum bid right thurr

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Role cop doesnt help us determine alignment if the result is that person gets a night kill? Hmm... interesting. Your post is littered with incorrectness. Unless I'm confused about what you're saying

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HELLLLOOOOO let's get this game going eh?

I take this back. Can you guys just slow down a little bit. And ffs fire, can you please tell your other head to go read the game???

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The other game

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I say we organize who bids on what items and how much, we can do this better than last iteration of game.
Town put bids as high as 50 but not higher, preferably stick to one item.

If scum want to win, they will have to bid 51 and then we can win all items from then on.

This was my plan last game. People didn't like it for some reason. I'm still for it, the biggest defense was that you always get a townie or 2 that fuck it all up.

We will not be seeing whose players to bid and players to keep all their money however. That's just stupid as hell.

P-edit: really? You just accused vedith of insinuating you were scum when if you had some something as simple as read, you would have understood what he said

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You really should look into the last game. It will give you a clearer understanding.

I plan on it. But not for a while. I think this is a lobby full of players who played the last game together. This means if scum is good they will play off players impressions from the last game. I will keep a perspective free of that for a while. Probably N2 or D3 I will go through it and re-read the game. Forgive my ignorance for a day or two : )

Oh is it? You consider 2 1/2 of 9 players full of them?

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2 very bad cases on Vedith. BUT I'll sheep helz all day since he'll be able to find scum on day 1. If whoever he decides day 1 flips town it'll be obvious he's scum.

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@Ricastle What about those posts do you find scummy? Quoting is great and all but an FoS without reasoning is pretty worthless in every way.

Totally agree. Hate that shit.

I think vedith and hellbringer and most likely both town.

Ricastle has the potential to be latching on to a wagon early that he thinks will end in lynch... that spot has my attention.

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And can you guys figure out how to put the post links in? That'd be great thanks

Lol well no, I'm not going to follow you helz. But I do think you're town. But I also think vedith is, so if course I wouldn't follow you on that

It doesn't matter how we get the game started. Rvs is just how we do it here and if you don't like it than you don't have to do it.

I also value day 1 the most because some day, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but some day my day 1 reads will be perfect. Last game I nailed one and town fucked it all up. Maybe I can do the same today

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His general demeanor

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Oh I don't think I said this. But if asked I would also not tell anyone what I would do as scum if I thought it would give scum ideas. Not saying what you'd do is not scummy at all.

And if you're saying scum wouldn't want to tell you what they would do as scum cause then town would know their intentions, don't be ridiculous. Scum lie. Case closed

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I agree, but as town I not about to let scum know what I believe is optimal game play. If you want to use that for a case, that's your play. It's just not something I'll include in my cases.

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So long people! Sunday funday... engage

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why are quick hammer posts necessary

Last game scum quick hammered day 1 and 2 and won. x:

Yes quick hammering is bad why do you think people do not know this

Because last game scum quick hammered day 1 and 2 and still didn't get lynched. I mean, you quoted the answer to your question... obviously people didn't think it was bad that game, are you against people making sure other people don't do things that hurt the town? Why don't you like town helping each other out?

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Wait, when I was town reading either of you?

Yes, let's answers this

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lane is a little less aggro than usual for him though, I guess nobody is really pushing his buttons though.

True dat, I'm really happy you didn't leave it as I'm more calm so I must be scum. Not that you're calling me town, I just think it's very town of you to point something out, but come up with a true and logical difference this far. I'm not getting a whole lot of strong scum reads so I'll have to reread

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I don't think ricastle is scum

I do. VOTE: ricastle

Still haven't done my reread. And your question to me about the hugs and kisses. What is that? For your information, what you can take out of that post yourself (since the post is true for me and not you) is that I'm calling him town for the reasons I stated. And because everyone deserves hugs and kisses.

Did you want to get to the point of your question? Or are you just going to make whatever my response is fit your assumptions and case you'll be fabricating?

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Also I really don't think vedith is scum but lynches are more important than no lynches. I think the cases on him are shit. But ricastle's is the worst

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Anyone else concerned no mod activity for a few days?

V/LA til Monday (busy with parents all Sunday, so help me god) and since the whole posting-your-reads thing isn't happening can we at least get some explanation why Vedith is "likely town" all of a sudden?

Also, I note how Tetaes and Vedith both ask Ricastle why he changed his mind, but not HB.

I promise you I'll get you your reads list. Just put in a 30 hour shift $$$. Here's a personal promise to you. Tomorrow night I will reread and build you a wall. And I can't say that my earlier reads will stay the same either. I've just noticed some things that might change it. See you Monday.

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Vedith town read won't change though

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I trust HB more than I trust myself at this point. Also, it's true that Vedith has looked less scummy recently.

Thinking of putting your vote somewhere yet?

This is so scummy... What changed?

Put your vote there!

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while I agree that it was pretty early to obvtown someone, that is literally the only thing pepto has said anything about, besides random comments about random things. and I'm going to have to agree with ricastle here. is pepto at l-2 right now?

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no I don't have bids in

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yes he is

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VOTE: pepto

please everyone respond if you have your votes in or not. or just say if you're ok with a hammer. I have votes in

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@runner. if you're a lynch all liars type, I'm sorry, but I cant giving you a reads list tonight. forgive me

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also deadline is pretty close. get your bids in.

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People were confirming their bids before we end day, so that's what I did. Are you actually going somewhere with this? Have you bid yet?

I'm not discussing my bids.

I'm assuming this means your good of there's a hammer

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You both make good points. But vedith, your argument would mean that ric was dumb town, not scum. Why would scum say they aren't bidding? I agree it's not his for town to say it, but why would scum?

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Fair enough. And I agree

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Except people reporting having their votes in ffs

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It's not a very good case. That's why

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I don't think ricastle is scum

I do. VOTE: ricastle

Still haven't done my reread. And your question to me about the hugs and kisses. What is that? For your information, what you can take out of that post yourself (since the post is true for me and not you) is that I'm calling him town for the reasons I stated. And because everyone deserves hugs and kisses.

Did you want to get to the point of your question? Or are you just going to make whatever my response is fit your assumptions and case you'll be fabricating?

There was a subtle buddying tone to your post which really isn't that great a scumtell

Why are you flipping out

Because I don't like when people don't get to the point

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Nice job ric. I applaud you

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I thought pepto play was bad and not helpful at all, but you pointing out that post made me realize how bad it was and do the iso and realize how much nothing there was in his posts... obviously I'm not going to be scum reading you anymore. Are you still going to go for vedith? Cause I've looked over him again and I'm still not seeing it

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VOTE: titus that'd be sweet... wait. No chance for her to post? Lol poor thing

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Though it's true I was at the back end of the wagon titus, I jumped on to push a lynch because we were so close to deadline. It was scum. That's not when scum would jump on their buddies wagon. If I was peps buddy, I would have stayed clear of the wagon, not commenting on it too much, and hope for a mislynch

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Want what?

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For a result. I'm assuming they didn't get shit though, cause they'd have posted by now, if they're anything lIke me

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And if the tracker is Runner?

@Lane, Don't make a VCA voting defense to me when your vote is a high probability scum slot vote. VCA is my thing. This is too small a game to work on that alone but still I would bet you're scum.

LOL oh! It's your thing huh? So you think you found scum based on vca and 1 single post. "Your thing" is wrong. And it's foolish to have something be your thing when it doesn't work. You should find a new thing...

I'll bet you whatever you want. If I'm town, you stop having vca being your thing. If I'm scum, I'll be your slave in any game we're in together.

The fact is, I wouldn't vote my partner over a chance to no lynch. And I wouldn't join the wagon that late even cause either peps gets lynched or he doesn't. Absolutely no reason to join. Tell me about how its a high probability scum slut and why?

Do you have anything else to comment on or did you literally look at the votes and the 2 first posts today...

Also I'm willing to be the lynch without defense if I'm causing paranoia, but titus' entrance is absolutely terrible

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Tracker should still claim neg results in case we have a way to track money later.

Yeah! Plus scum will know who is no longer a threat to get powers as the tracker has $0. Tracker should claim so scum know who not to kill. #genius

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In case my sarcasm isn't apparent, I don't think the tracker should claim a negative result

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@Lane, If scum want to leave conftown alive, that's their own stupidity. There's no way scum bids $100 on a tracker when an ic or effective equivalent comes up later.

I have the best lead for now. Your only response is that you'd never do that.

Uhhh... what else would you expect me to respond with? You imply that you have this grand case with many points that I should be responding to, and only responded to one. But your case is miniscule and not much to respond to

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Can you elaborate on titus? Are you ok with her entrance, vote on me based half on my one post, and general lack of any sort of substance?

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Aside from being able to say "why would I do that as scum? ", how does everyone feel about my joining the wagon when I did?

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Her vote reads the same as the first vote out of rvs would to me

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It actually did make me laugh when she said vca is her thing though. Arent people generally good at their thing?

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I won the Tracker. Flubber's town. As far as I see it, the only logical options for scum left are Titus and Runner. And I'd prefer to lynch Titus first simply because her slot was the one out of the two in question that wasn't on the Pepto wagon. That sound good?

But you obvtowned that slot...

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I also can't get the paranoia about ricastle out of my head but I think we can leave that for lylo

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Ha! Yeah lynching me doesn't avoid that dipshit. But ok

VOTE: lane

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L-1 I believe. I'll sacrifice myself to rid paranoia on me

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But you obvtowned that slot...

Why did you sheep me on them before, then?

Because you were right about the first lynch. You obvtowned them, not me

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Meanwhile, whoever gets the PGO should gift it to Flubber. That way scum is forced to kill a random townie and one of us will be guaranteed to survive to Lylo if it comes to that.

Because you were right about the first lynch. You obvtowned them, not me

Why didn't you question me on it at the time, then?

Because I had forgotten you did that. Why did you keep questioning me instead of addressing the discrepancy if your vote on your obvtowned slot

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Flub... the fate of the world is in your hands

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Then vote me vedith. You can too ricastle. I noticed I point out one thing on you and you instantly think I'm being sketchy.

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Its there to hammer, paranoia gone and you can get on with the game

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UNVOTE:

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So why are you voting your obvtown slot?

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No vedith I was talking to ricastle

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Well I hope you're right VOTE: titus

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Fuck, I didn't even put bids in. By my own rules at forth... I hope you guys quick lynch me tomorrow. That was fucking stupid and I wasnt even thinking.

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I think people should take a hard look at flubber

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That's really ok vedith. Lol. I deserve it. I'll help you lynch me cause is be the lynch in lylo anyways and I don't want that

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I think flubber or ricastle

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If it's not titus. Runner and all alone seem ok to be

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I already said sorry! It was completely idiotic. I don't know what else you want me to say

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I need to be lynched and I get that. I wouldn't let it slide and neither should any of you

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I think people should take a hard look at flubber

Haha fucking idiot post #2 clearly at this point nobody is reading what I have to say haha

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Alright so, can I assume that I'd be the lynch in lylo? Cause if so town will lose and I should be lynched today

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So it's runner or all alone then...

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All alone concerns me most because the only thing he's done is push pepto in a few posts. And hasn't done shit otherwise in his total of 10 posts. Makes me think the only reason he was picking pepto apart is because he knew he was scum and is otherwise lost

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Also I want everyone to know I have 100 bucks. Don't know if there's a way to plan with this few people a way to confirm scum in lylo. I was thinking of buying the ascetic to prevent scum from getting it but as I'm likely scum to most, that might not help.

Idk. Use me if you want. Lynch if you need

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Man I just don't know. Whoever is alive between runner and all alone they're the obvious lynch.

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Shit. They'll probably both be alive

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What would be the fake out part? I'm not giving up because I'm scum. I'm conceding to my lynch because I don't want to lose us the game in lylo if we mislynch today

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You know my stance on a quick lynch. Read the other game at what sal did, and how infuriated I was when he never got lynched. Other games it's different, but this game people need to get bids in. And u fucked that up

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I fucked that up. Not u. I don't say u lol

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Yeah. I already established that it was a dipshit move. This isn't your idea. I wasn't even thinking about what game this was when I lynched.

Yesterday I didn't find the need to look at other people... you seem more concerned about me saying something about you today than you did when someone previously said something about you though that's for sure.

Why is that?

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Helz is town. 102-104 makes a lot of sense coming from someone who's fresh from sc2 mafia (days are like 24 hours there iirc). I doubt his reaction here is fake, and I doubt he would have that reaction as scum.

not really feeling the vedith wagon here tbh. I'm staying on orcknight

Wow, busy night guys. Differing timezones are a nightmare. I'll catch up later when I'm on a PC later today my time.

Just to field the one question asked of me: "visit" = "bidding" =p. Damn phone auto corrected it.

If you're not caught up then how do you know only one question was asked of you? Are you reading but pretending not to read so you don't have to post content?

Let's start a wagon that's better for D1

-Town reading fluff posting (and awkward fluff posting at that)
-Saying Orc actually is caught up because he saw a question two posts south of his first post in the game
-No explanation why the vedith wagon is bad, so a scum flip here also gives D2 a nice trajectory

prod dodge

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Well Tetaes, I would be up for an argument if that post hadn't made you obvtown. What's your read on Vedith?

All Alone...you've just been attacked. Got anything to say about that?

All Alone...you've just been attacked. Got anything to say about that?

I said everything I wanted to say about the attack in 174.

Why the totally different reaction? Pressure a little higher now?

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If not that, then what? What's different now you react so much? Explain

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Btw, your sarcasm shows your insecurities

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Except for I wasn't being attacked. I was being funny.

You're being accused, and you're trying to avoid the issue

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I really hope it's not

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All alone concerns me most because the only thing he's done is push pepto in a few posts. And hasn't done shit otherwise in his total of 10 posts. Makes me think the only reason he was picking pepto apart is because he knew he was scum and is otherwise lost

I recognize this, it's one of my favorite chain lynches as scum: quick hammer, then attack someone for low participation the next day. It's scummy because if lane genuinely thought I needed to do more yesterday, he wouldn't have rushed the Titus lynch and cut me off.

You know my stance on a quick lynch. Read the other game at what sal did, and how infuriated I was when he never got lynched. Other games it's different, but this game people need to get bids in. And u fucked that up

If you were really that infuriated by Salamence's quick lynch,

you wouldn't have repeated it.

Full. Stop.

VOTE: lane0168

Can you link me to the any games you've quick lynched, then attacked someone the next day for low participation?

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You guys should probably take more time and figure out who scum is bit whatever. Peace out yall...

VOTE: lane

Beat you too it sucka

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prodge. Don't really have anything to add. I'm almost certain lane is scum.

I highly doubt AA would just panic and attack his scumbuddy Day 1 or w/e. Having said that I'm behind a bit so I'll read and catch up in a few hours.

Who said he attacked his scum buddy in a panic? I said he is panicking now when I called him out when before he prod dodged when attacked.

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Btw flub... thanks for letting the conversation finish between me and all alone. No problems with him recognizing something as his favorite when I don't think he's ever done it before? Vote all alone tomorrow please

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I had to be lynched. It couldn't be helped and I don't think you could convince the other 3 even if you wanted to

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We've probably lost this now.

But why would you say that?

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But why kill ricastle?

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But you're the only actually confirmed. Ricastle had for sure 0 dollars to buy cop or doc... I was just curious what runners plan was if he had one

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Yeah when I saw ascetic go unbid that made me suspicious

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yes... Firebringer officially wins Auction Mafia. This is my last run of this, so you shall remain undefeated

This is sad. Definitely one of my favorite games I've played.

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What's this gift thing?