Micro 543: Kingmaker - Endgame

[Lucky2u]

/confirm

[Lucky2u]

Hehe, as my signature has always affirmed... The bunny knight reigns supreme! I only do bunny avatars, preferably warriors or fighters of some kind.

[Lucky2u]

Mm okay so there hasn't been a serious post

I am against rvs so

VOTE: Davsto in protest

*shakes cane*

Link me to another game where you express this opinion or get death tunneled.

In the mean time...

VOTE: vedith

He knows Damm well what he did. Whoever the king is, you may NOT kill him. Only when I am king and Vedith knows true despair will I grant him death.

[Lucky2u]

Can the kingmaker be scum?
According to the rules, is that a hammer on Vedith?

Read the rules again, King votes don't count, the format is specific" execute" is the word.

[Lucky2u]

I like Dav as a town king. He's shown the correct attitude so far.

I'm getting slightly bored of the percentage fluff that is going on and would venture a bet that atleast %50 of the scum team is hidden in their group.

I think I am currently behind a Don execute.

Regardless, I should be made king tonight so I can bleed Vedith.

[Lucky2u]

I like Dav as a town king. He's shown the correct attitude so far.

I'm getting slightly bored of the percentage fluff that is going on and would venture a bet that atleast %50 of the scum team is hidden in their group.

I think I am currently behind a Don execute.

Regardless, I should be made king tonight so I can bleed Vedith.

In case anyones wondering, Lucky is extremely buddying Davsto hardcore here.
Lucky doesn't normally do that shit.

That is freaking me out. Scum readin that.

Also, he want Vedith dead because of a previous game LYLO were Vedith was scum and Lucky lynched town. Sad. Null tell on that.

excuse me? do what shit? provide a read of a player?

since I think you are also scum reading davsto you are arguing that I am buddying my scum partner while he is king? tell me how that makes sense. you are being your usually chaotic self this game which is very unreadable, so let's talk fire... I need a way to read you unless you want me to get you lynched for the 100th time.

[Lucky2u]

Ok, so, Firebringer, what's your actual read of Vedith this game?

No opinion.

I am going with the "I wont try to figure out Vedith until Day 2" approach.

non-committal. it's one thing to answer null, it's another to say you won't even try...

[Lucky2u]

I'm kind of having a slight townlean on Vedith because the carelessness I feel that comes from his posts, but I need to see him do actual scumhunting to have a definite read. No execution here, yet.
Lucky, gutfeel of scum, I haven't played with him much, only one game iirc. It was a lynchless/nightless and he purposefully trolled to not get shot, which worked for a long time in that game. Here he's not trolly but he is kinda staying in the background so that's where my gut is coming from. He may be executed.

I've said it before, I did that trolly thing on accident. I was very inactive early on (due to IRL stuff, not scum motivation) and I turned on the troll switch as a way to not have to explain myself and look scum. You can read it in the mafia chat for that game if you want to dig it up.

[Lucky2u]

Lucky, are you town?

no, i'm a villager.

[Lucky2u]

Okay, I like a Lucky execution.

Claim, please.

disappoint dav, would you atleast allow a final reads post?

[Lucky2u]

if you don't mind the deadline is Nov 5th, I'd like to actually do a re-read and post more than a sentence. Give me the rest of the weekend.

pedit: if he is scum he knows I'm flipping town and could try to find a reason to say no. Though I don't think davsto would be that stupid as scum anyway.

[Lucky2u]

you probably shouldn't have said that. scum would be the ones making that statement and you could have used that reaction to read them tomorrow.

[Lucky2u]

thanks for the deadline davsto.

I was indeed stalling on purpose. I can't do much for town once I am dead so I was hoping some good discussion would happen and lead to scum outting themselves as this period between intent and hammer is very awkward for scum to navigate. At the very least I have been following along and I think you guys have some very solid leads for tomorrow. Even after Davsto partially spoiled my plan with his post after my asking for time, wanderer has come across the scummiest with his eagerness to not give me any slack on a vague request for time. Firebringer I think comes across the most town for being slightly suspicious and still open minded at my towniness. Thanks fire for the confidence! I'd give lane 2nd place trophy on that for similar reasons. Everyone else I will leave up to you guys to decide tomorrow. Davsto doesn't get a pass for this. I had him at town for this at first but I'm starting to think that his nervousness might be actual scum nervousness at hammering town.

Unless there are any further questions.... a quick clean swipe would be appreciated executioner.

[Lucky2u]

Davsto... I hope you are right because you just killed me tomorrow if you aren't. My gambit only really works if I was the one that actually died!

[Lucky2u]

Well this was productive. Vedith, Davsto, lane, no comments on the night kill? Which one of you scum is avoiding the subject?

[Lucky2u]

And btw Dav it didn't really look like "spour of the moment" with this story you've prepared. I'd say it was a very scummy move but I may be biased (guess why). I really hope you're town, for the sake of my own sanity.

Davsto you didn't respond to this before night so please do so now. Why was your move not scum?

[Lucky2u]

What do you want me to comment about it?
I'm not sure why he was killed but I would have suspected him today if he wasn't.

That begs a follow up question... Why? With distractions like me and Davsto, what caught your attention from him?

[Lucky2u]

Uh... Scum didn't have the kingmaker lynched, you did. Noone was strongly even pushing jester's lynch.

[Lucky2u]

So let me ask you this... What's your view on it?

Aggressive players tend to get killed by scum who can't handle them.

[Lucky2u]

So his 2 reads were Lucky and Wanderer...

He did also say to make him, ZZZX or Dav king so that would be a fair point since he would want to kill either of them as the king.

His statement to make him zzzx or Dav king is telling that zzzx or Davsto as scum would want to kill him. For obvious reasons.

[Lucky2u]

And Lane just bumped up the scum list...

[Lucky2u]

plot twist!

[Lucky2u]

So Town Block now:
Me, Vedith, Lane, (Possibly Dav)

LOL no. You don't get to be in a town bloc after what you just did.

[Lucky2u]

I'll give Lane confirmed town. You'll have to explain the reason on Vedith and possibly Dav.

[Lucky2u]

Okay Lucky, what would FB gain from lying?
Counter claim, confirmed scum... Yeah FB is still town if you ask me. Obviously not confirmed, but I like this spot.

The point of my statement is that he is not CONFIRMED. you guys realize confirmed means %100 town right? Like not even possible scum?

[Lucky2u]

The point of my statement is that he is not CONFIRMED. you guys realize confirmed means %100 town right? Like not even possible scum?

Ohh shut up Lucky you never trust anyone.

DAMN RIGHT! especially after what Vedith did! He was in the damn town block and look what I got for trusting him!

[Lucky2u]

But I'm a terrible scum catcher... I've done it once it any of my recent games. Otherwise been wrong...

And that was sala, in auction mafia 1. Who did something so scummy that people couldn't believe it was scum

Pedit: oops she

Ah Sala.... I loved watching him do that...

[Lucky2u]

Firebringer is raising two red flags of basic scum hunting. Lynch all liars and asking to be lynched.

[Lucky2u]

@lane well I was modding, as a player I might have too

[Lucky2u]

Yeah, I would probably shoot me if I was Vedith

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lol, okay. Maybe claiming Kingmaker wasn't a good plan, but my heart was in the right place.

I didn't want us shooting another Kingmaker like Davsto did yesterday!

[Lucky2u]

Fire wouldn't you the one who claimed the town bloc that last game?

[Lucky2u]

VOTE: Firebringer

Better safe than sorry

[Lucky2u]

naturally, "kill the messangers" I always say.

so firebringer is indeed scum and it's time to find an appropriate partner.

[Lucky2u]

That's what makes it hard to play with the same people over and over. You get a read so wrong once and you get paranoid and gun shy.

*hard stare at Vedith, Firebringer, Davsto, and Lane.*

[Lucky2u]

Indeed. I'm just noting that you 4 have been in %90 of my games recently.

[Lucky2u]

It's not gg if mafia gets the gun, still have the hero.

[Lucky2u]

I'll clear you of your crimes Vedith if you can execute scum today.

I would like everyone to weigh in with a vote please. They may mean nothing but it's to scum's advantage to not have to express their opinion and blame mislynched on the king alone. Another reason why Davsto screwed us yesterday is noone was able to say how they felt about the lynch before it happened. VCA is only possible when people contribute.

[Lucky2u]

If you don't hit scum Vedith I'm going to assume you are Firebringer's scum partner.

[Lucky2u]

[Lucky2u]

Obviously that's not a situation covered by my statement. He is expressing interest in hammering outside of Firebringer. If he is going to do that, I was stating that he better hit scum. Otherwise my read on him becomes scum because I will judge the action as avoiding killing his partner. This does not apply if he hammers Firebringer.

OK lucky, then what if he does hammer Firebringer and he is town

Glad you asked invisible voice. It's a null action. Firebringer is being so scummy that he is a good hammer for scum or town to make. Not making the hammer only reads scum to me though.

[Lucky2u]

happy birthday lane! I'll weigh in on the wanderer zzzx thing shortly....

zzzx should be easy since he hasn't been here.

[Lucky2u]

Lucky steps to the balcony to address his subjects. He has been newly crowned king and to his side stands the member of the Holy order of the Chozeh, Lane. "Fools... All of you. My people... Why do you bow? Why do you allow yourself to be subjugated?"

Lucky stares out at the confused faces. "I am a man just like all of you and yet you would allow me to rule unquestionably?"

Lucky points to Lane. "All because this man told you I am divine. Fools I declare you all again. This man does not speak for the gods. He knows not of their will."

Lane is shocked at these words. This was not the Inauguration speech he expected. Lucky grabs Lane by the collar and drags him forward. "This false prophet has led you astray. I am here to guide you back to the light."

Lucky removes his crown and puts it on Lane's head. "My first and only proclamation as King will be this: Today the rule of royalty is over! From this day forth, democracy is the rule of the land! The Holy order of the Chozeh is officially dead."

With that last statement, several guards bring forth all the known members of the Holy order to the front of the crowds and one by one slit their throats. Lucky turns to a horrified Lane. "Long live the King."

Lucky grabs his royal sword and with one mighty swing he lops off Lane's head.

execute: Lane

[Lucky2u]

Good game town.

[Lucky2u]

[Lucky2u]

Lane is going to be pissed...

[Lucky2u]

That's what the hero is for.

[Lucky2u]

TBH fire you are partially responsible for the loss. You caused Lane to out himself. If he hadn't I wouldn't have had a guaranteed safe target today. I could have hit wanderer and died.

[Lucky2u]

Don't be a sore loser FB. It's rude to the mod and rude to the other players. It's a game. You lose some you win some. I will enjoy this win but I know it doesn't mean anything. It's all for fun.

[Lucky2u]

http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/qtdf7JKYrv8N

Mafia qt. Take solace FB that at game start I feared you most.

[Lucky2u]

Firebringer is always a dangerous player. He has proven time and again he is willing to go against the town popular opinion to push his own agenda and generally be an agent of chaos. Thankfully in this setup he can't Yolo hammer but I fear a Firebringer king or kingmaker the most.

[Lucky2u]

Yes Firebringer, when you read this later you can say that I fear you as a player.

[Lucky2u]

Cheers fire, one day maybe we can be scum together

Thanks btw to Vedith my scum partner for working with me here. I absolved him of his sin in Doubleday for getting us this win.

[Lucky2u]

That's what makes you one of my favorite players.

[Lucky2u]

Well historically, as with me and Vedith, that means we'll be the scum team! Awesome!

[Lucky2u]

Actually he couldn't. We verified with mod. King is chosen at night when there were 6 players. That's why we killed zzzx. Guaranteed me the king unless he chose wanderer.