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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:21 pm

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In post 599, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 594, Aeronaut wrote:Couldn't the mod just literally copy-paste a template into the post game and people can fill it out?

If the data isn't received on the backend by the Scummies Committee, then it becomes a game of "hunt down a mod until they give us the data".

Plus, copy/pasting a template still doesn't alleviate the workload of "copy all completed templates/data into a managable spreadsheet or database"

Google Forms? Set up one where you can put in the number of the game so it's sortable
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:08 am

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You still come to the issue of someone having to post that in every completed game, which is simply not realistic
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:09 am

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I tend to nominate players, teams and games that I think are really awesome. However, this issue arises for me a lot:

How many nominations are okay? I have personally seen two scumteams this year who excelled in different ways and who were really worthy of a nom for best scum team, for instance. I don't really know what other people have seen, though, so what I think is "OMG super awesome" might not be the best. I'm still going to nom/second/nth the teams, but for myself I've already seen two and it's just March. I may see even better plays later on in the year, and if I think they're worthy I'm going to nom/second/nth them too. That might mean that I (and others) are involved in the nomination of competing teams at the end of the year.

I guess my basic question is: Are more nominations desirable? Are we working toward having a larger pool from which to determine the winners? If so, then encouraging people in the relevant game thread to feel free to nominate people, teams, mechanics or whatever can be a valid way to solicit those noms. The downside is that we would probably need more judges to handle the increased reading associated with more nominations.

If we're looking simply to ensure that really worthy games/teams/individuals are considered, though, then I don't really see an issue with the way things are done now. If the same person nominated multiple entries in the same category, I don't see an issue with PMing them to ask their opinion about which one was the best if it comes down to that either.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:16 am

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do you think that the best teams/people aren't getting nominated?
if so, then we need to encourage more nominations
but otherwise, it's no use
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:57 am

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In post 603, Psyche wrote:do you think that the best teams/people aren't getting nominated?


I don't know. I don't think anyone can know. I err on the side of yes, nominate, but I don't know how others do it and I for sure am not reading every game.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:04 am

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As many nominations as you want!
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:25 am

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I strongly support the idea of an award for each category of game, such as:

- Best Normal Game -
- Best Mini Theme Game -
- Best Large Theme Game -
- Best Micro -

And then the winner of Best allaround game would be chosen from the winners of those.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:45 am

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Not the worst idea I've ever seen

Theme and normal are more likely to make it through committee though
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:58 am

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maybe we should just have people nominate a lot of great games, and then the judges select one normal and one theme and
imo also one mini
from them and then from that pool to all get awards, but one is named GOTY?
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:27 am

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I dislike giving 'awards' for entire games... because, why? Who gets it? Players? Mod? Reviewers? Backup mods?

I could see Game of the Year being a list of finalists where each finalist is a different gametype, perhaps.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:30 am

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the game gets the award
it's like giving a movie "best picture"
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:37 am

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*shrug* I just don't see the necessity of needing to recognize one game of each type... like I said, I like the idea of having allocated 'slots' for GOTY finalists that come from each type of game to ensure fair representation.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 2:11 pm

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dunno if this has been brought up (prob has) yet but what about a newbie ONLY scummie? Its only for new players, not IC's, SE's or "older" players that are in a newbie game. Rewarding newbies for outstanding play in their first or first few seems like a good positive idea. I think it also might help reduce the flake rate of news. Maybe the mod or the IC or maybe the mod AND IC pick one player from each game that played well.

I think its a good idea, just work out the details.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 2:17 pm

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isn't that called Rising Star?
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 3:05 pm

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I guess its p close
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:09 pm

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We just removed "Best Newbie" as a category like two years ago and rolled it into Rising Star, specifically because by the time someone actually won an award, they weren't really a newbie anymore, and the cutoff date just felt arbitrary.

IE, someone could play a game in January of 2015, be nominated for Best Newbie, spend the whole year on the site, win the award in March 2016, and have a banner saying "Best Newbie" when they've already been here a year and two months. And they'd technically have it through March 2017, which would be two years after they joined.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:07 am

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I think the Scummies team should suck less, personally.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:06 am

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In post 601, quadz08 wrote:You still come to the issue of someone having to post that in every completed game, which is simply not realistic

Why not make it mandatory for mods then. If enforced enough eventually it'll become 2nd nature.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:41 am

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because then we end up punishing a lot of mods for doing something that has no bearing on the actual quality of their game, which is shitty
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:16 pm

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I think the better fix for the best newbie award without considering increased workload was to just hand it out twice a year. Then at most someones been playing for ~9 months when they get it and keep it until 15months. Seems passable.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:06 am

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I feel sorry for the person who gets it half way through the year when it's the only award.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:35 am

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Better yet still might be to reward them with something thats even more responsive, like a merit based micro badge system.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:53 am

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That sounds like it's going to cause division.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:50 pm

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What if we did a "Newbies of the Month" sort of thing where moderators/IC submit new players who they think excelled in a game and deserve some recognition.

I know if I was a new player to the site and I recieved a message that was like "Congrats! You're a Newbie of the Month! See more here: thread link" it'd be very rewarding to me as a new player and I'd feel more likely to stay.

I could try spearhead something like that if there was interest.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:49 pm

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how would you draw the line of how new a newbie of the month has to be?
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