Mini 1729 - History Mafia II END

[BeardedCat]

What about Rory's ISO makes you think that he is town specifically? Which posts did you like best? My townread on Rory is based on having been his scumbuddy in a previous game, so you probably have a different reason.

--P

[Dwlee99]

Just the tone of their posts coupled with their questions during the beginning. I am conflicted because they decided you were town early on. Ughhhh
If you read rorys iso though it is them just obvtowning. Scum team kept them alive for a reason (cause of townread on bc?). Sorry that this is just me rambling but meh.

[Dwlee99]

Where everyone at?
I dont want another deadline lynch.

[Starbuck]

Reading Rory's ISO makes me convinced star is town, paranoid about errant. Star, which of Bearded and Bastion do you feel is most likely to hit scum?

I think there's a high probability in both. My early reading/catching up, and the fact that he's on every lynch makes me want to lean Bastion, but BC has almost been too helpful in some ways and I think I may have been giving them a pass for how much they were seeing what I was seeing.

So I think BC might be the better choice for today.

[Dwlee99]

I prefer bastion for a lynch. Plot where is BBT?

[Errantparabola]

Sorry, real life is kicking me in the shins right now. I'll make sure to be here tonight

[BeardedCat]

no idea; he's been busy with work i think. I've posted in the hydra PT that it's LYLO and when the deadline is and he's read it but he hasn't said anything.

But both of my other LYLO games are over now (I was scum in both of them and they were exhausting and this last one came down to the last 90 minutes). I really can't handle more than one LYLO at a time and I was prioritising them by when the deadline was, but this is now my only LYLO so I'm here. Finally.

--P

[Errantparabola]

1270 Thinks that BC and MS is TvT so, in a way, the defense of KT/Dwlee didn't matter that much to her

FYI, I'm not a fan of this misrepresentation.

I didn't state that BC and MS are TVT. I asked it as a question, which means that I was unsure. I didn't state it outright that it was a TvT interaction as you are saying here.

Could Metal Sonic and BeardedCat be TvT? Both are coming to the table with points that I easily could have made and I like it.

I don't think that you calling that a misrep is fair. Reading into your quote in 1270, you said that both MS and BC made points you liked, which I interpreted as you leaning town on them. I guess it's just me not being able to read into things very well, but I thought that the question you posed was more of a "hey, guys, what do you think about my thoughts on MS and BC" not "hey, guys, I'm not really sure about MS and BC"

[Dwlee99]

Bbt's activity levels are so sketchy. And right here it seems you try to apply the gamblers fallacy to imply you cant be scum again. It is unnecessary and I do not see why it was necesaary.

[Errantparabola]

That makes sense. I agree with Dwlee acting towny. is there anything that convinced you that Dwlee/KT was TvS, not just Dwlee acting towny in a vacuum?

Star, I would really like you to answer this question.

The 747 is, in fact, an airplane. I almost feel like you've been stalking me with that question, as I was an Aviation Electrician when I was in the Navy, I'm a huge aerophile, and I have my Bachelor's and Associate's in Aeronautics.

This is incredibly cool.

What's up next: I'm going to dig into BC's iso to look for interactions with Bastion

[BeardedCat]

@dwlee: No, actually I'm just explaining my own activity because I feel bad about what a non presence I've been this LYLO. This game is a commitment that I take seriously and I feel like I haven't been pulling my weight. I have the same 2 in 5 = 40% chance of being scum as anyone else does at this point. I've had some offline stuff going on and I was also in 3 LYLOs at once which was two too many. What I'm saying is that I can be around more often now than I was before.

BBT is barely active sitewide. Not completely siteflaked but perpetually behind everywhere. And he likes being scum so inactivity isn't alignment indicative for him. His last post in the hydra PT was on the 16th of November. If you think

you're

annoyed about BBT's activity levels...

--P

[Starbuck]

That makes sense. I agree with Dwlee acting towny. is there anything that convinced you that Dwlee/KT was TvS, not just Dwlee acting towny in a vacuum?

Star, I would really like you to answer this question.

I swear I did. Was that in that big wall of yours?

[Nexus]

Votecount 4.1:

Not voting (5)

- Errantparabola, Starbuck, Dwlee99, BeardedCat, Sir Bastion

Deadline for Night actions is at 9am on Saturday 5th December 2015. (expired on 2015-12-05 09:00:00)

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

[Starbuck]

@Mod - Saturday December 5th?

[Dwlee99]

Let's lynch bastion, then, shall we?
We have 3 days if anyone has anything they want to talk about.

[Starbuck]

@Errant - I feel like the answer to your question was in the post that was above it. Is there a certain point in this that you would like some more elaboration?

my question to Starbuck is: what changed?

So you chopped the inital part of my thought when it came to not really being able to see the town motivation of Dwlee and KT's early posts. It's answered right there:

Dwlee vs KT is weird.

It feels like trying to add posts/be active for the sake of doing it and/or distancing.

Like I can't really see the Town motivation behind either of them.

It really came down to that either/or scenario on, at least, KT. With how much pal-ing around was going on between the two of them, plus their constant voting with each other, I can't believe that I would be the only person to think about the possibility of double scum between them. I did want to give each of them a chance to prove that they weren't. Dwlee, seemingly, passed that test and KT failed horribly.

As it went on, though, Dwlee was reacting in a manner that I would consider as town. In all actuality, I started reading Dwlee as much more genuine than KT. KT was nothing but over the top AtE (that whole under 18 thing could easily have been a way that KT slid under everyone's radar), WIFOM, forced case on Scorpious, overdefensiveness, deflection ("look at what so-in-so is doing" as a response) and just odd statements like "everyone is guilty until proven innocent." It didn't seem to be coming from a town perspective and I called it out from the get go of when I replaced in and it turns out, I was 100% spot on.

[BeardedCat]

Now that my scumgame is complete I can say that I think I townread Rory a little prematurely; he didn't play all that well as scum in July/August when we were scum together, and as a result I was townreading his slot in n1653 for similar reasons to my townread on his slot in this game (tone mainly).

And then he replaced out of all of his games and I replaced into his slot in that game and got a scum role PM. It seems his scumplay has improved quite a bit in the intervening couple months. I had to pretend that I didn't know that until yesterday, but cat's out of the bag now. Rory's scumgame isn't as obvious as I had to pretend it was in order to win that other game.

I'll keep that in mind when I get to ISOing Rory/Starbuck; it will probably be easiest to form an opinion primarily based on Starbuck's play instead.

I'm going to ISO people now, in order of who has the least posts first because maybe I'll be able to get through several ISOs that way today.

Spoiler: apparently i have a lot of thoughts about this iso.

Errantparabola

Errant RVS votes Bastion. BBT thinks that newbie scum are more likely to vote their partners but I don't/think that tell really only works in someone's first game if it works at all. Errant has "goon" over their name so they're still new but this isn't their first game.

Errant asks me what I think of

Bella

because she's a former hydra partner of mine, and because

Call of the Wild

thought

Bella's

entrance was awkward. ScumErrant would know that I'm town here and that

Bella

is town and could reasonably expect that a former hydra partner would be more likely to say something like "yeah

Bella

's like that sometimes, it's a bad reason to scum read her". I don't see scum motivation in trying to get me to weigh in on

Bella

like this, because ultimately i'd be the one taking responsibility for reading

Bella

correctly as town and Errant wouldn't get anything out of it.

Errant asks

Ari

about

KT

/dwlee.

Ari

thought it was TvS and Errant wanted to know why

KT

, but indicates that they were also leaning scum on

KT

because of something they said. :/

Errant, I know later you say that you thought it was a TvT, after dwlee had backed down and called

KT

town, but back at this point in the game when the fight was still raging, did you think it was more TvT or SvS and why?

Errant doesn't understand why Rory thinks

Ari

is scum for calling

KT

/dwlee TvS and raises the good point that

Bella

is doing the same thing. It's sketchy to call an action scum when one player does it and ignore it when other people do it. I'll think about that later when I get to Rory/Starbuck. Errant wants to know why it needs to be TvS, which I think is a good question; it could easily be SvS, the whole thing has a scum theatre feeling in hindsight, especially the way it died away so quickly. Something to look at when I stop procrastinating reading dwlee's ISO.

Errant spends a while trying to get Rory to answer their questions for him and finally makes a case against Rory. Errant's case on Rory is that Rory is pushing a bad case on

Aristo

, claiming that Rory was asking

Ari

busywork questions that he had already answered, claiming that

Ari

hadn't been answering his questions when he had been, that he was pushing

Ari

for stuff while ignoring that

Bella

was doing the same thing. These are decent points against Rory.

I also don't see what scumErrant gets out of tying people to town aligned players. Errant is accusing Rory of treating

Ari

and

Bella

differently. If one of these players had been scum, scumErrant could then later push a case on townRory for treating town differently from how he treated scum. But they're both town so nothing to gain here.

Next, Errant looks at

scorpious

,

KT

, and dwlee. Errant feels that

KT

is expressing fake rage, and that his scumreads are based on activity but he's pushing some people on logic that could apply to others while ignoring the others. Says that if

KT

is scum,

sonic

and Rory are a little more towny. Errant think the early stuff was TvT but thinks that if it is TvS then

KT

is more likely to be scum. (this is after dwlee has backed down from his

KT

scumread) I think this post feels town motivated too; I think scum would have reached a different conclusion here, saying that x or y were more likely to be scum if

KT

is scum rather than less likely to be. Unless Errant/Rory are scum together, but I'm not sure why scumErrant would be bussing scumRory when KT/dwlee were taking up all the attention.

Errant feels underinteracted with and tries to engage

Spiffeh

. Wants to know what

Spiffeh

thinks of

Scorpious

and Rory.

Errant trusts dwlee's meta read on

KT

. So did the rest of us. This is in reply to Bastion who had asked if dwlee was defending

KT

too much. (this might be a point against townBastion but it's not a point against townErrant).

BBT prods Errant to take some stances and Errant does. Says

Ari

is an easy mislynch and that there's scum in the pool of people who are supporting voting him while keeping their votes on other people. Errant disliked

Spiffeh

's push on them, and didn't like

Spiffeh

jumping on the

Aristo

wagon while saying he'd rather vote someone else, which

gummmy

also mentioned. Says Dwlee/

KT

are town for now but still feels uneasy about

KT

. Didn't like

Scorpious

attacking Bastion's line of questioning instead of just answering the questions and hopes Rory would come back. I think this is a townpost.

Puts bastion at L-1 in a deadline scramble situation. Probably scum with Bastion.

After the double modkill, Errant goes through

pignash's

iso and tries to make sense of it. Errant thinks that

pignash

pushing bastion right off the bat makes them less likely to be aligned. I'm not sure I agree because that was basically my situation when I first replaced into Rory's slot in that other game and I strongarmed a lynch on my buddy with cute puppy pictures

because

I was replacing into a difficult position and I needed a strong entrance.

Errant notes that

pignash

interacted with only [sir bastion,

spiffeh

, and me]. I guess it would be pretty sloppy of him to ignore both of his scumbuddies so that might not be an all town list but who knows. I'll have more of an opinion on this after rereading bastion, I'm sure.

I like 1571 but it really is missing a conclusion.

Errant, if you've received answers to your questions, please fill in the blank: in conclusion, the point of this wall post is _______

Okay, so reading through this I feel like Errant is a fairly cautious newer player but I like the depth of their approach and a lot of their posts seem more likely to come from newerTown than from scum because they don't seem to be accomplishing scum agenda type stuff; I think scum would have figured that the

KT

slot would not live to LYLO (definitely before dwlee started standing up for

KT

but even after that, the slot was never going to make it into the townbloc) and good day 1 scumplay would be to try to tie the

KT

slot to various townslots, which didn't happen.

I also don't think Errant makes much sense as a scumbuddy for any living player except maybeBastion I guess but I really just think Errant is town.

--P

[BeardedCat]

Sir Bastion

Spoiler: probably will be verbose about this too

Bastion calls out

Call of the Wild

for posting to say that they didn't have an opinion on

KT

/dwlee. This could be a scumpost.

votes

sonic

for noise. There was indeed a lot of noise going on at the time and some of it was from scum.

Bastion dislikes two

scorpious

posts, in which Scorpious was taking interest in the

KT

/dwlee debacle, and votes him over it.

Bastion, what specifically did you dislike about these posts at the time?

nevermind, he answers in 260.

So he disliked the

scorpious

posts because

Scorpious

was strongly advocating two wagons (

kt

and dwlee) without doing anything about them, wasn't voting for either of them. That's fair.

Bastion pushes

scorpious

for a while for not pushing

KT

/dwlee.

Bastion pushes dwlee some about having a screenshot of

KT

's hypixel account to share that

KT

was indeed 11 years old. I can't tell if this is a good point to push on or not but I think it makes Bastion less likely to be scum together with dwlee.

Bastion yells at

KT

for being so noisy.

Bastion is still on

scorpious

for hiding behind a skirt of

KT

and dwlee. This looks like already knew that

KT

would flip scum. Better scumplay would be to bus

KT

first and then go after

scorpious

but actually doing it this way works too because if you push

scorpious

/

kt

as being scum together, and

scorpious

flips first then you're free to re-evaluate the

kt

read if you want to because clearly they're not scum together after all.

Bastion says that Scorpious finally voting is neither scummy nor towny which feels a bit like 'regardless of'. He was pushing him earlier for not voting and now that

scorpious

does vote he says he's going to keep voting him to see whether

scorpious

follows up or is hoping the wagon loses interest. Of course, now that Bastion has said this, he's free to continue voting whether

scorpious

follows up or not, because if

scorpious

follows up, it's only because Bastion told him to, and if

scorpious

doesn't, well he's probably scum then.

It also feels like he's posturing to jump on one of

kt

/dwlee for sheeping him onto that wagon.

He picks at me a bit because I'm carrying the hydra and my other head is barely here but that happened when I hydraed with

Bella

, too.

Bastion postultates a

KT

/dwlee/

scorpious

scumteam. He thinks the entire thing between the three of them is scum theatre. I do also feel like

KT

/dwlee was scum theatre. It's interesting that he pushes scorpious first, but he's pushing dwlee too, some.

He votes starbuck for her catchup posts which is weird but probably just a mafia theory disagreement. I think that even if a series of catchup posts is done by scum putting on a show, it is worthwhile to analyse it later, and it also helps us read the slot because we get to see the game through fresh eyes and stuff. Bastion likes

pignash

's replace in better where he doesn't catchup just makes a case against somebody.

townpoints for unvoting a little later once he realises that she always catches up on replacing in.

He asks

Ari

some flavour questions and then votes him because the flavour doesn't seem to match. I'm of two minds about this; on the one hand, fakeclaims are a thing and mods try to ensure the game can't be broken by flavour. On the other hand, I did recently spectate a game where a player didn't know anything about the flavour, deleted their role pm because they didn't think it was important to hang onto it, and was just going by memory, didn't realise that wizards were the bad guys in the book in question, and claimed wizard instead of whatever their mod provided fake claim was and then were lynched and flipped bad guy.

Bastion continues trying to break the game by flavour.

Bastion brings up dwlee in response to the modkill.

Bastion asks starbuck if her character is female after Tony's mason flip. This bothered me at the time and I said as much because with all of the gender claims already out there, the last mason could only have been in [starbuck, tony, spiffeh] and by getting starbuck to claim female it narrowed the pool down to [tony, spiffeh]. This is suspicious.

What was so important about your gender theory that it was worth potentially outing the mason over it?

Probably scum. I'm getting a migraine but tomorrow I'll look at starbuck/rory and maybe i'll get to dwlee but i may not finish dwlee tomorrow because 253 posts is a lot of posts. i'll be ready to vote before the deadline though.

--P

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Bastion I have made my mind up. Let us just get this over with and start tomorrow.

[Errantparabola]

Errant, I know later you say that you thought it was a TvT, after dwlee had backed down and called KT town, but back at this point in the game when the fight was still raging, did you think it was more TvT or SvS and why?

I remember Bella and some other folks thought that there was something weird about that interaction. I never understood that. How are you able to say that the interaction is weird coming from one side without knowing which side it's coming from? So I never really bought the whole TvS thing at that point because no one made any convincing arguments. My read on the two was mainly null, but I was willing to acknowledge that Dwlee was likelier town. I also never bought (and still don't buy) the SvS argument.

@Errant - I feel like the answer to your question was in the post that was above it. Is there a certain point in this that you would like some more elaboration?

Not exactly... I guess what I'm trying to ask is were there any association tells between KT and Dwlee that made you think that they were scum together? If so, did those association tells change or did Dwlee's towniness override those tells?

Just the tone of their posts coupled with their questions during the beginning. I am conflicted because they decided you were town early on. Ughhhh
If you read rorys iso though it is them just obvtowning. Scum team kept them alive for a reason (cause of townread on bc?). Sorry that this is just me rambling but meh.

I don't buy this at all.
1. The tone thing is just parroting what BC said way back in D1
2. The tone thing is pretty sketchy anyway (like what does "I like your tone" even mean")
3. I have never understood and probably never will understand how people think that asking questions is alignment indicative unless there is something specific about the questions that shows specific motivation behind them

I think that Star (and BC for that matter) have been acting town in a vacuum but I'm suspicious of how BC decides to back out of their rory townread, which they never really went in depth on in the first place. I can see backtracking happening much more easily in LYLO because the stakes are higher. Not only this, but the murky status of the rory townread gives BC easy opportunity to say "now that I think about it, maybe rory isn't town after all" which was, you know, also never really elaborated on. So maybe it's an attempt at distancing between the two of them?

[Errantparabola]

VOTE: sir bastion

[BeardedCat]

VOTE: Bastion

[Nexus]

Votecount 4.2:

Sir Bastion (3-LYNCH) -

Dwlee99, Errantparabola, BeardedCat

Not voting (2)

- Starbuck, Sir Bastion

Deadline for Night actions is at 9am on Saturday 5th December 2015. (expired on 2015-12-05 09:00:00)

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Sir Bastion has been lynched. Flip incoming.

[Nexus]

Sir Bastion - Harriet Tubman - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 4
Dwlee99 - Emmeline Pankhurts - Town Follower - Endgamed
Starbuck - Anne Frank - Vanilla Townie - Endgamed

Errantparabola - King John - Mafia Silencer
Pignash - Guy Fawkes - Goon
BeardedCat - Mary Tudor - Goon

have won. Well done

[Nexus]

Spoiler: Role PMs

Greetings Errantparabola, you are

King John of England, Mafia Limited Silencer

. You are a member of the Mafia, along with

KTthecreeper (Guy Fawkes)

and

BeardedCat (Mary Tudor)

, and you may speak with them at any time in this private topic.

King John is perhaps most famed for his appearance in Disney's Robin Hood, where he was portrayed as a childish, pathetic individual. In reality, he is famous for being nicknamed John Lackland, losing multiple wars, attempting to raise taxes, upsetting the Pope - which led to the English not being allowed to have weddings, funerals or christenings, and eventually being forced to sign the Magna Carta. All in all, one of the worst kings of England ever.

Abilities:

Silence -

During Nights 1 and 2 only, you may PM me the name of a player that you wish to silence. During the following Day, that player will be unable to vote at all. This ends following a lynch, and you may not target the same player on subsequent nights.

Kill -

During the Night, you may attempt to kill one of the other members of the game. If nothing prevents it, that player will be killed.

Vote -

During the Day, you attempt to blend in with the Town. This means you can vote to lynch someone.

You know that Robin Hood, King James I and Queen Matilda are not in this game. At any time you can PM me with one of the three, and a role, and I will fabricate a role PM for you.

You and the rest of the Mafia win when you control the majority, and nothing can prevent this from happening.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings KTthecreeper, you are

Guy Fawkes, Mafia Goon

. You are a member of the Mafia, along with

Errantparabola (King John)

and

BeardedCat (Mary Tudor)

, and you may speak with them at any time in this private topic.

Guy Fawkes is probably the best known, and most celebrated, terrorist in English history. He attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament, to kill the Protestant King James I. He failed, of course, because he was caught with a fuse in his pocket by the King's guards underneath Parliament. Initially giving the fake name of John Johnson, Fawkes soon capitulated under torture, giving up his real name, and details of all his co-conspirators. He was hung, drawn and quartered soon after. There are rumours that it was all a government plot to discredit the Catholics, but who knows for sure?

Abilities:

Kill -

During the Night, you may attempt to kill one of the other members of the game. If nothing prevents it, that player will be killed.

Vote -

During the Day, you attempt to blend in with the Town. This means you can vote to lynch someone.

You know that Robin Hood, King James I and Queen Matilda are not in this game. At any time you can PM me with one of the three, and a role, and I will fabricate a role PM for you.

You and the rest of the Mafia win when you control the majority, and nothing can prevent this from happening.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings BeardedCat, you are

Queen Mary I, Mafia Goon.

You are a member of the Mafia, along with

Errantparabola (King John I)

and

KTthecreeper (Guy Fawkes)

, and you may speak with them at any time in this private topic.

Queen Mary I is the eldest daughter of Henry VIII, and was Queen of England for a time. As Queen, she gained the unfortunate nickname of 'Bloody Mary' due to the amount of Protestants that she had burnt. Oh, she also married Philip of Spain. She wasn't meant to be Queen, but she assembled a force of soldiers who deposed, and ultimately beheaded Lady Jane Grey, seizing power for herself. She had a relatively short reign, however, and when she died she was replaced by her more successful sister - Queen Elizabeth I.

Abilities:

Kill -

During the Night, you may attempt to kill one of the other members of the game. If nothing prevents it, that player will be killed.

Vote -

During the Day, you attempt to blend in with the Town. This means you can vote to lynch someone.

You know that Robin Hood, King James I and Queen Matilda are not in this game. At any time you can PM me with one of the three, and a role, and I will fabricate a role PM for you.

You and the rest of the Mafia win when you control the majority, and nothing can prevent this from happening.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings gummmybear, you are

Romulus, Town Mason.

You share a Private Topic with Metal Sonic,

Remus, Town Mason,

and you can discuss the game at any time.

Romulus was the son of Rhea Silva and the God of War, Mars, and has a twin brother in Remus. Their grandfather, King Numitor, was deposed by the evil Amulius. Amulius then cast Romulus and Remus out and attempted to drown them in the River Tiber. Romulus and Remus were saved by a she-wolf, who raised them until a shepherd and his wife found them. As they got older, the twins vowed revenge on Amulius and eventually got it. The two brothers then attempted to build a city each - Romulus wanted to make it on Palantine Hill, whereas Remus wanted to make it on Aventine Hill. When the cities were midway through being built, Remus went over to Romulus' walls and mocked his city, leading to Romulus murdering his twin. Eventually, Rome was founded.

Abilities:

Twins -

You know that Remus is in the game, and that he is Town, and you can talk together at anytime in your Quicktopic.

Vote -

During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Metal Sonic, you are

Remus, Town Mason.

You share a Private Topic with gummmybear,

Romulus, Town Mason,

and you can discuss the game at any time.

Remus was the son of Rhea Silva and the God of War, Mars, and has a twin brother in Romulus. Their grandfather, King Numitor, was deposed by the evil Amulius. Amulius then cast Romulus and Remus out and attempted to drown them in the River Tiber. Romulus and Remus were saved by a she-wolf, who raised them until a shepherd and his wife found them. As they got older, the twins vowed revenge on Amulius and eventually got it. The two brothers then attempted to build a city each - Romulus wanted to make it on Palantine Hill, whereas Remus wanted to make it on Aventine Hill. When the cities were midway through being built, Remus went over to Romulus' walls and mocked his city, leading to Romulus murdering his twin. Eventually, Rome was founded.

Abilities:

Twins -

You know that Romulus is in the game, and that he is Town, and you can talk together at anytime in your Quicktopic.

Vote -

During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Dwlee99, you are

Emmeline Pankhurst, Town Follower.

Emmeline Pankhurst was the leader of the Suffragettes, and was famous for her no-nonsense approach to protesting for votes for women. She was formerly a Suffragist, however was sick of their non-violent tactics, and so attempted to get the vote by violent protest, such as vandalism, arson and hunger strikes. When the First World War broke out, Pankhurst called a halt to the militant tactics, and started getting men to join the army. She was one of the people who helped give white feathers to men who refused to fight, and attempted to coerce and shame them into joining up. In 1918, the Representation of the People Act gave all women over the age of 30 the vote.

Abilities:

Follow -

During the Night you can PM me the name of someone to Follow. You will find out what action, if any, they performed that Night, as long as you are not prevented from doing so.

Vote -

During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Call of the Wild, you are

Eliot Ness, Town Gender Cop.

Eliot Ness is perhaps the most famous Prohibition Enforcement Officer there ever was. The founder of the 'Untouchables', Ness fought against the corruption that was rife during Prohibition-era America. His biggest scalp was that of one Alphonse Capone, who, alongside the work of the IRS, Ness helped to put into prison for tax evasion. Al Capone's associates assassinated one of Ness' friend, and also attempted to bribe Ness. He wasn't able to do so (hence: Untouchables). Capone was imprisoned for 11 years, and Ness' career moved on. Without Eliot Ness, Al Capone would have probably continued his reign of terror.

Abilities:

Investigate

- During the Night you can PM me the name of someone to investigate. You will find out what their role's gender is - Male or Female. This result will, as long as nothing prevents it, be 100% accurate.

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Aeronaut, you are

Harold Godwinson, Vanilla Townie

Harold Godwinson was the last Anglo-Saxon King of England. He is also famous as 'that bloke with the arrow in his eye' from the Bayeux Tapestry. Godwinson was one of three candidates for the English throne in 1066, after the death of Edward the Confessor. His opponents were William, Duke of Normandy, and Harald Hardrada, the Viking. Soon after Edward's death, Godwinson was crowned King of England, upsetting both William and Hardrada. This meant that both foreign armies invaded England - Hardrada at Stamford Bridge, and William at Hastings. Godwinson marched his army up to Stamford Bridge, defeating Hardrada in battle. However, Godwinson then had to force-march his army back down to Hastings, to face the Norman army of William. After nine hours of fighting, Harold was killed and his army routed.

Abilities:

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Scorpious, you are

Wat Tyler, Vanilla Townie

Wat Tyler was the leader of the 1381 Peasant's Revolt in England. Fed up of the way King Richard II was treating people, particularly following the introduction of the Poll Tax, the peasants of England began to march upon London. The peasants burnt and beat their way through England until they reached the capital. Wat Tyler joined the revolt after a tax collector sexual assaulted his daughter. When the revolt reached London, Tyler agreed to meet with the King and his advisers. Reports are unreliable, but it is rumoured that Wat Tyler was rude towards the King, leading to one of the King's advisers drawing his sword, and cutting Wat Tyler down, thus ending the revolt.

Abilities:

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Bellaphant, you are

King Charles II, Vanilla Townie

Charles II's dad, Charles I, was one of the worst monarchs in British History, what with losing the civil war, and then losing his head. Charles II, however, was the glorious return to the monarchy after the dull time of Oliver Cromwell. Charles II was known as a party guy, the 'King of Bling.' During his reign, he dealt with both the Great Plague, and then the Great Fire of London in subsequent years, as well as fighting various wars, and flitting between Catholicism and Protestantism. Still, he gave his name to a cool spaniel!

Abilities:

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Rory, you are

Anne Frank, Vanilla Townie

Anne Frank is the most famous diarist in History. She was a German born Jew who lived most of her life in Amsterdam. She lost citizenship in 1941, thanks to Hitler's anti-Jewish policies, and spent the last years of her life in hiding in Nazi-occupied Netherlands. Anne and her family lived for over two years behind a bookshelf, until they were betrayed and captured by the Nazis. Anne Frank spent the last years of her life in the Bergen-Belsen Concentration Camp, where she died two months before the liberation of the camp in 1945.

Abilities:

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Aristophanes, you are

Woodrow Wilson, Vanilla Townie

Woodrow Wilson was the 28th President of the USA, and is probably most famed for his Fourteen Points that he bought to the table to try and ensure that peace would reign after World War One. He also cracked down on Communism in America, helping the Palmer Raids to exist, as well as extending the vote to women in the USA. He was also incredibly influential in the setting up of the League of Nations in Europe, even though the USA didn't join.

Abilities:

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here

Greetings Sir Bastion, you are

Harriet Tubman, Vanilla Townie

Harriet Tubman is a former slave who worked as an abolitionist, humanitarian and Union Spy. She is perhaps most famed for her work with the Underground Railroad - a network of contacts that helped runaway slaves escape the South to the North. She was a devout Christian who also became a nurse to help soldiers during the Civil War. After her death in 1913, she became an icon for courage and freedom.

Abilities:

Vote

- During the Day, you can vote to lynch someone.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Please confirm you have read your role PM by replying with your name and role. The game thread is here