Micro 551 — Vanilla-Free Greatest Idea Mafia — Game Over!

[Hinduragi]

My drunk posting is loud and includes many caps. It is top tier. That gives me an idea, actually.

I propose if this comes to LYLO that, once everyone is ready to place the votes down and get the real discussions going, we end this in true drunken mafia fashion. Plan a night, get drunk, and end this like civilized drunken people. Whoever makes it to LYLO should do it. I don't

think

this breaks any site rules.

[Marquis]

DAY 2. VOTECOUNT 08.

(1)

Hinduragi

—

Lucky2u

(0)

Chaotic Neutrality

—

(0)

Soren

—

(1)

Vedith

—

Soren

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

—

(1)

Lucky2u

—

EspeciallyTheLies

(1)

No Lynch

—

Chaotic Neutrality

(2)

Not Voting

—

Vedith, Hinduragi

With

6 alive

, it takes

4 votes

to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-12-12 21:30:00)

(Sat Dec 12 @ 9:30:00 PM EST).

NOTES.

ehhh

[Chaotic Neutrality]

Oh am I really the only one voting no lynch -_-

[Hinduragi]

Vote: No lynch

Not anymore.

[Vedith]

From the wiki, it's listed with the possible alignments. I may have been wrong about lyncher win con but I generally know my stuff with idea games.

Fair enough, you learn something new every day then.

[Soren]

Soren I need updated reasons why Vedith is scum. It's been 200 posts since your reasons in 317 and those were weak then and are weaker now. I also realized I have no idea what your read is on anyone else but Vedith.

How do you mention my 317 and then say that you don't know my read on anyone else? All my reads are there.
Vedith is still scum. He's still not voting for anyone. His lylo post doesn't give him any town cred, that's just him saving his ass. More importantly if he was town he would have claimed his cards at that point instead of resorting to making a post about mylo. He's generated a lot of noise without saying much. Calls people scum without explaining it and calls CN town without explaining it in his 498. Tell me how any of what he's doing is town?

Who's in favor of NL?

If you guys aren't going to lynch Vedith I don't mind no lynch.

those last few posts from hindu are weird as fuck man...

super weird.

How so? I see town frustration.

Lyncher can classify as self aligned (so the result as an alignment card would be up to mod discretion) or as a role by itself.

Either way

I don't really think ETL is town

but she's also helped town with her one dayvig which means she's

definitely not anti town.

Probably wouldn't get much out of that lynch.

If you're voting Hind you're prob scum. I'm looking at you, Lucky.

So you're saying ETL is scum, helping town?

[Hinduragi]

I don't like that Lucky forgot the wincon of his own role in a past game where he "wanted to work with the town" but that's just happen stance and I don't think scum have intent to do so purposefully, only lyncher might. And even then, once everything is mod clarified, I see him working with the town.

Don't think vedith or lucky are happening today because I don't want to vote either at this stage of the game.

[Soren]

VOTE: No Lynch
That's L-1

[Lucky2u]

@soren because you hardly mention anyone else since 317 but Vedith so Vedith is the only one for sure I can assume hasn't changed. If your telling me none of your reads changed since then that's fine, that's what I wanted to know. Follow up question: why no change? (who didn't see that coming?)

@ash Ketchum I barely remember my games a week after they've ended. I only remembered that one because of the embarrassment.

[Soren]

No change because their play has remained mostly consistent.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm bored now.

[Soren]

ETL why are you against no lynch?

[Hinduragi]

Just in case this NL gets hammered while I'm away for the next few hours, I want my reads known because they've flopped completely. I fell asleep thinking about this game and everyone's reactions to my ranting and this NL situation. Here's basically my stream of consciousness that I went over last night while I was trying to fall asleep.

CN/Soren are basically my strongest town reads now. I really, really am worried ETL's sleeper scum. I still think vedith's town but don't like the fact that, since our argument, he's posted nil next to just role speculation. Slightly worried about Lucky too because too many townreads. ETL's unvote earlier when Lucky was L-1 means she's not trying to end the day soon yet she still didn't want vedith lynched. She also doesn't want to NL at all though so it's not as if she doesn't want to get a lynch either.

Spoiler: Scumteam Shenanigans

Her voting play really only means she's on a solo scumteam. No way is she on a scumteam with vedith; why? Gut. I really wanted to call a lucky/ETL scumteam when I was thinking about it but that's impossible as lucky would've just insta-hammered vedith at L-1 and won the game then and there. In fact, unless it's a Soren/ETL scumteam or vedith is on a scumteam with someone, there isn't a scumteam period and it really makes no sense for ETL/Soren as ETL unvoted when I jumped on. So really the only person in this game who would be on a scumteam is vedith and there's no other conclusions to be made about that.

I think that's all I have to say about this game so far.

[Hinduragi]

ETL, why did you unvote vedith immediately?

[Chaotic Neutrality]

Plot twist?

[Chaotic Neutrality]

I have a theory that ETL is actually alien scum and didn't use her factional kill last night.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ETL, why did you unvote vedith immediately?

I explained to Soren. I'm mobile and about to go bed. but I can explain more if what I said earlier is not enough for you. just in the morning.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

you guys are getting ridiculous with tin foil hat theories about me. I honestly don't know what else I can do besides keep scum hunting and hope yall figure it out. I've dealt with paranoia about me due to reputation before but this is nonsense.

[Hinduragi]

I'm talking about the unvote before it was clear to you he was town with his arguments. You voted him and thought he was scum at the time. Why did you unvote immediately?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

? I didn't invite immediately. Soren asked me after that why I thought he was town again.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

so what. i think he's town.

p-edit: NO. NO NL.

Vedith is back to being a town read...?
A town read which I've asked you to explained twice but you have failed to respond.

i have reasons. i'm not the best at explaining myself. it's the way he's doing things here compared to other games. his emotion about things, the way he's actually gotten into a numbers/theory argument with hindu. he cares about the outcome.

Would scum!Vedith not care about the outcome?

Would scum!Vedith not care about the outcome?

i feel that he tends to be (even more) trolly and assholey and snappy and excuse-makey. here he's actually engaging.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

there were 5 hours and an entire interaction with you and Vedith before my unvote

[EspeciallyTheLies]

So, lets start with some basic out comes here.
From the nights results, it doesn't shout out that there is a vig for us.
There are 6 players, and as stated imo a solo or a team.
If there is a team of 2 that means a mis lynch today is scum win... Think about that for a second.
For those confused I'll explain.

6 People
Mislynch means 5 people.
Night kill means 4 people.

4 divided by 2 = 2.
If there is a team which I highly suspect from the bad pushing, that's a loss.

Unless Lucky has a RB, heal or vig (seems unlikely) then town are stopping anything (even more so with my being lynched).

1 thing I always find stupid is speed voting in these situations. It shows that you don't care what result will come out of it.

I'm mobile and the multi quote thing isn't working but this was the post that prompted me to invite

[EspeciallyTheLies]

UNVOTE:

Vedith post was 474. my unvote came in 476. so I didn't "unvote before it was clear to me he was town with his arguments".

[EspeciallyTheLies]

you should really read first... before making silly statements like that.