Micro 549: Everything Is A Lie 2 (Game Over)

[Davsto]

[Davsto]

Looking at the VC, we have two Counsel votes and no vonflare vote. Is it possible that vonflare controls one "Counsel" and we don't know which it is, so that we can't tell the different between who a player is voting and who the Counsel is voting?

Anyway, this'll probably be the last post for a bit because tonsillitis yay.

[Davsto]

vonflare PMs his votes to geurty? This is all speculation obviously.

The Counsel in the last game was a vote controlled by the dead thread; people in there vote (geurt's vote worth 0.5, everyone else's worth 1) and whichever player has a majority of votes on them gets a Counsel vote on them. At least, that's what happened last game. Wouldn't put it past wgeurts to change it, given what I've seen so far.

[Davsto]

BTW I control one of the counsel votes by PMing my choice to wgeurts apparently.

Did I call it? Yes I fucking did.

[Davsto]

Shh, I'm allowed to feel proud of myself for guessing things

[Davsto]

vonflare (2): vonflare

oh ffs

[Davsto]

Wait we can vote the The Counsel what

Which Counsel though? Is it The Counsel or is it vonflare's Counsel and if they total the amount to lynch vonnie dies? I don't knowwwwwwwwww

[Davsto]

Don't vote The Counsel. Considering how much town tried to do it last game, I can guarantee that we'll be punished for it.

[Davsto]

That player you voted; Postie, or post.
This is a constriction that I cannot boast.
I guess I will just have to put up with it,
Wgeurts, the bastard, the naughty old git.

Poem is the form, well, not exactly,
To say a poem would not be factly.
Instead this is a thing, sort of a type
The form it is something that used to be ripe.

The first syllable, what a child might do to a toy,
Break, smash, dispose of, destroy.
The second like boring, my thumbs they do twiddle,
The word as a whole, it rhymes with middle.

[Davsto]

My vote, as it is, may be normal or double,
But I will not get into trouble.
I will not go wrong, not go into the slammer,
Because my vote can not be the ______.

[Davsto]

VOTE: Shiro

[Davsto]

My vote, as it is, may be normal or double,

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VOTE: Postie

This service has performed an evil crime,
Which I shall spell out, with riddle and rhyme.

One letter repeats itself, first fourth and last,
It's a letter in fleeting, and also in fast.

The second letter, it rolls of the tongue quick,
It's one that's in stalk, but not so in stick.

The third letter, stuck all through time as it flew,
From the start of the universe to the end of you.

Hopefully, now, you can see what I spell,
And you will join in and vote Postie as well!

[Davsto]

This one is short, released with a quiver;
shos' theory is like swimming in a French river.

[Davsto]

This one is short, released with a quiver;
shos' theory is like swimming in a French river.

...wet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seine

[Davsto]

During the day, a certain thing came,
And forced upon me this restriction, so lame.
Along with a claim that my vote may have doubled,
But that isn't true, for that I am troubled.

The letter the first, a vegetable, green,
At the end of paragraphs a likeness can be seen.
The second, the second letter of a place of a song,
Which a young man might look for, for rather long.

But do not fret, this thing shall not last,
At the end of the day, this thing shall be passed.

[Davsto]

in Seine?

The riddle which you are all trying to solve,
Regards the suddenness of this restriction's evolve.

[Davsto]

in Seine

[Davsto]

A PR gave you this post restriction????

The letter you provide there is definitely wrong,
It's not one that rolls so easily off the tongue.
If you do not get this, I will surely pillage,
The letters should come from the people of the village.

[Davsto]

second letter

song

young man

people of the village.

[Davsto]

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

To unvote Postie is my undying shame,
But BulletNLynchproof, I don't buy his claim.

[Davsto]

Oh jesus he is isn't he

He's making this super similar to the original game but with slight changes just to fuck with us.

The first player to die reviving, people getting random items, the Innocent Child...

[Davsto]

So I can talk normally now, halle-fucking-lujah.

[Davsto]

Basically:

I got a PM, apparently a shady figure appeared and said that

My vote may or may not be worth double (was not)
My vote can't hammer (idk if that was true)
I had to talk in riddles

Like seriously, I was borderline lurking because I didn't want to speak in fucking riddles

[Davsto]

Vonflare stood cool, calm and collected. This Shiro was finished, for he had harnessed the strongest power known to man: namely the "Forbidden One"...

This time something did happen, in fact:

Shiro was killed, (s)he was a

Falsifier (Alien-Traitor Godfather Mason Tracker Day-Mailman)

!

Spoiler: Role PM

Role PM

Welcome Shiro, you have drawn

Falsifier (Alien-Traitor Godfather Mason Tracker Day-Mailman)

!

Abilities:

• You appear to be aligned with the town on investigation.
  
• Each night you can target somebody to see who they targeted that night.
  
• Once per day you can send me a message to send to somebody of choice unedited (it has to be sent via me though).
  
• You are a "Mason" with
  somebody
  , you are both "guaranteed" to be aligned with the Town. The Private Topic can be found here:
  somewhere
  
  
• You are also an Alien-Traitor, meaning you don't share a Private Topic with your partner. In the case he targets you with the factional-kill you will join him.
  
• Further more you have your mind, which is honestly worth nothing in a game modded by wgeurts but hey, you can try at least.

Win-Condition:

You win when all other players not in your faction are dead or nothing can prevent it.

The game-thread can be found here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=64181
I will post there once all roles have been sent out as to officially start the game, from that point on you have 2 days to post. Fail to do so and I will be forced to replace you, don't let it come to that please.

Oh for fuck's sake, a non-Mafia Traitor Mason? I fucking swear, wgeurts.

[Davsto]

Once per day you can send me a message to send to somebody of choice unedited (it has to be sent via me though).

Wait

wait

waaaaaaiiiiitt

Does this mean Shiro sent me that message? The one with the supposed post restriction?

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Davsto]

Seriously, was that fucking post restriction not even real? But it was such a pain in the ass.

[Davsto]

I am a one-shot Lynchproof townie. I was apparently a Death Miller on my first death. Thus I had no target, as I was never a Lyncher. As part of my role I had to choose to fakeclaim having a negative utility, then gaining that negative utility. I chose to be a Compulsive Hammerer, as I felt that lowering the lynch threshold is not terrible, and I didn't mind being voteless as I am not a good scumhunter. Unfortunately, I lost my night abilities,

but I am still a compulsive hammerer

, so be careful.



Notice how similar Shiro's flip is to the werewolf group in EiaL 1? Scum traitor mason. I think GuiltyLion is confirmed scum.

As GodFather normally resolves after cop sanity, Shos is either gambiting town or lying scum. I'm fine with this lynch if you don't want to lynch GuiltyLion.

VOTE: GulityLion

I mean the fact that GuiltyLion claimed despite having read the previous game is super duper townie.

This, on the other hand, is super duper scummy.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

[Davsto]

I'm not totally on board with a massclaim because my role is basically the mod's WIFOM on toast.

[Davsto]

I am okay with a mass nameclaim though.

I'll got first, Opportunist.

Just claim your role name (flavour name, not actual abilities) in your next post thanks.

[Davsto]

Also, wgeurts showing your name was likely intentional, considering he remembered to redact the PT link.

[Davsto]

They might do.

[Davsto]

Heyo, Flubber, you nameclaim please? Thaaaanks

Anyone else who hasn't please do so too, not sure who has/hasn't.

[Davsto]

Dammit, wgeurts.

Basically, wgeurts tends to have a pattern to avoid name massclaims breaking the game; he tends to have all but one name follow a pattern, with that one name being town with the aim to look like a scum botching a fakeclaim.

Apparently he's picked up on the fact I've learnt that and not included in this game.

I call bullshit.
If you are a killing LD you would have used it better. Not on a completely unhelpful post. Also, coincidence that i al

ŗ

eady cleared him?

Nay.

Wagon on FN ahoy

What's with the squiggly bit under the r? (See colour)

[Davsto]

I guarantee that wgeurts in the dead thread either predicted me doing the nameclaim or, at least, pointed out me doing so. I bet he just knew I was going to do it.

Terrible.

[Davsto]

Or his role PM is lying..? Or he's forced to fakeclaim as part of his role? Idk.

[Davsto]

I just don't see scum!Flubber doing something so utterly fucking insane unless it was made necessary in some other manner.

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Like, seriously, why the hell would scum!Flubber decide to claim a role that is:

Stupid (seriously, modkilled?)
Easily disprovable

My bet is he was forced to fakeclaim as part of his role or the like and so he claimed something fucking insane, hoping that someone would realise that he's being forced to claim, rather than that being his actual role.

[Davsto]

A towbie forced to fakecaim?
Dp you realize hw far fetchwd that is?

...
You played in EIAL 1, right? The role that became whatever you claimed, the post restriction that forced the person who had it to never tell the truth, etc.

And you're saying that a Townie forced to fakeclaim is far-fetched? Piss off.

VOTE: shos

Reads like weak attempts to justify an easy vote.

[Davsto]

This speculation is not suggested by anything, so there is no reason to support it.

It ia obv possibe that he has to fakeclaim, but why not fakeclaim a doc or someyhing? Why something so extravagant and easily disproven?

So that it's easy for people to figure out that it's a fake claim? Rather than us thinking it's real?

I mean, if he's scum, why would he claim something so extravagant and easily disproven? Regardless of his alignment, if he was willingly fakeclaiming this, he's fucking insane and stupid and seriously why would he do it.

Only thing that makes sense is that:
a) it's what he's been told his role is and it's a lie
b) he's being forced to fakeclaim and decided to fakeclaim something insane in the hope that people realise this (and it also explains why he claimed rather unnecessarily)

[Davsto]

You can still win if regular-killed. If modkilled, you are killed and turned into a neutral survivor, and since you're dead you auto-lose. At least that's how I understand it.

[Davsto]

Ooookay so now the claim is slightly less ridiculous and obviously fake

UNVOTE:

I must reconsider my view.

[Davsto]

Ha, people trusting PRs in this game.

Classic.

[Davsto]

As in, people trusting PR results in this game.

[Davsto]

See, now that Flubber's scaled back his role from "modkilled" to "actually I just meant killed", I think it's fair to say it's waaayyy more likely for it to be a regular claim.

Or it's his "actual" role and the setup is lying to him.

Do you want me to point out that, again, lying about this on purpose would be stupid because it's hilariously easy to disprove?

[Davsto]

If you know his role, how does what he has claimed have anything to do with it? His role is his role, surely?

[Davsto]

Nice.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

People who give themselves anti-town roles intentionally are super duper likely to be scum. The Innocent Child bit in particular sounds just too much like scum.

[Davsto]

Aaaaaaand davsto conftown!

Aye? How?

[Davsto]

Ohhh

right

Sorry, it's barely 8AM.

[Davsto]

Lmao @ GuiltyLion's self-janitor ability not working the way he hoped it would.

Alright, I will claim.
But first - Davsto, you should have gotten a results PM last night.

I... may have slightly deleted it. It looked like rubbish, basically.

It was something along the lines of "it's all lies", iirc.

[Davsto]

I like tidy inboxes. I delete things which I feel is unnecessary to keep.

A message which appears to say literally nothing is not necessary to keep.

I got napalm too, btw. Expect that to do sweet jack shit.

[Davsto]

Yes! That was it!

[Davsto]

That was the PM I got, there we go.

[Davsto]

Napalm: Flubbernugget

Let's see if this does anything

[Davsto]

Also I am aligned with the town

[Davsto]

Wubbalubbadubdub

[Davsto]

No-one claimed it. Shiro could, though. She sorta died, so I doubt it's her.

[Davsto]

Ok ee are safe
Soon ill pst from cinluter

Do you want me to become a translator?

[Davsto]

Flub is most likely scum at this point.

I'll wait to see if the napalm does anything, and then vote.

[Davsto]

Oh yeh just a heads up that I literally haven't used my role a single time. You'll see why if I get around to claiming. Still not planning on doing so.

[Davsto]

I guess I'm okay with massclaiming.

[Davsto]

Mod's fucking with us

Most people seem okay with massclaim; I'll be happy to go first if requested.

[Davsto]

Well it didn't kill him

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[Davsto]

Oops, I hammered. I didn't mean to. Sorry.

I mean I'm not because he's scum but oh well.

I'm gonna keep away from claiming while I can because it will cause a lot of problems regarding night actions. I'll claim tomorrow. Sorry for being vague, but you'll see why.

[Davsto]

Oh for Christ sakes

Postie, Counsel or vonny's second vote please get onto flub

[Davsto]

You signed up to a game called "everything is a lie". Expect bollocks like that.

(ily rly geurt)

[Davsto]

I'm planning on running a large "Everything is a lie" with some seriously insane and evil roles I've came up with. I'll do this once life cuts me some slack however feel free to pre-in! You were all great and were a good playerbase for me to meddle and fool. Shame on you once more shos for not doubting a role.

Pre-in. Like, all the pre-in. I want more games that allow me to have moments like this

That player you voted; Postie, or post.
This is a constriction that I cannot boast.
I guess I will just have to put up with it,
Wgeurts, the bastard, the naughty old git.

Poem is the form, well, not exactly,
To say a poem would not be factly.
Instead this is a thing, sort of a type
The form it is something that used to be ripe.

The first syllable, what a child might do to a toy,
Break, smash, dispose of, destroy.
The second like boring, my thumbs they do twiddle,
The word as a whole, it rhymes with middle.

My vote, as it is, may be normal or double,
But I will not get into trouble.
I will not go wrong, not go into the slammer,
Because my vote can not be the ______.

VOTE: Postie

This service has performed an evil crime,
Which I shall spell out, with riddle and rhyme.

One letter repeats itself, first fourth and last,
It's a letter in fleeting, and also in fast.

The second letter, it rolls of the tongue quick,
It's one that's in stalk, but not so in stick.

The third letter, stuck all through time as it flew,
From the start of the universe to the end of you.

Hopefully, now, you can see what I spell,
And you will join in and vote Postie as well!

This one is short, released with a quiver;
shos' theory is like swimming in a French river.

During the day, a certain thing came,
And forced upon me this restriction, so lame.
Along with a claim that my vote may have doubled,
But that isn't true, for that I am troubled.

The letter the first, a vegetable, green,
At the end of paragraphs a likeness can be seen.
The second, the second letter of a place of a song,
Which a young man might look for, for rather long.

But do not fret, this thing shall not last,
At the end of the day, this thing shall be passed.

in Seine?

The riddle which you are all trying to solve,
Regards the suddenness of this restriction's evolve.

A PR gave you this post restriction????

The letter you provide there is definitely wrong,
It's not one that rolls so easily off the tongue.
If you do not get this, I will surely pillage,
The letters should come from the people of the village.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

To unvote Postie is my undying shame,
But BulletNLynchproof, I don't buy his claim.

Only to find out it was lies all along.

Also, I had fun being a secret tenth player

[Davsto]

Also, curse you wgeurts for noticing that I'd latched onto your tendency with the way you handle role names after you've modded two games I've been in (usually one is an outlier to look like a botched up fake, and as such the person with it is usually town) and as such making sure not to do it in this game, yarr.

[Davsto]

The Weak-Neighbouriser is actuallt just a neighbouriser.

gdi

and I refused to use my weak-neighbouriser because I remembered just how many scum there were last time and thought it wasn't worth the chance which was over 50% of dying

PEdit wait where is this bad modding you're talking about? I didn't notice a single problem you probably just think you did worse than you did because you have a more biased view.

[Davsto]

(Also, it was great fun to actually survive a bit longer in this game )

[Davsto]

Posting Role PM in game for my wiki page

[Davsto]

Role PM

Welcome Davsto, you have drawn

Opportunist (Town Weak-Neighbouriser)

!

Abilities:

• Each night you may target somebody to join you in a neighbourhood, they will join you in a Private Topic which whill be open at all times. The catch is that if you target somebody not aligned with the town, you die.
  
• Further more you have your mind, which is honestly worth nothing in a game modded by wgeurts but hey, you can try at least.

Win-Condition:

You win when all threats to your alignment are eliminated.

The game-thread can be found here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=64181
I will post there once all roles have been sent out as to officially start the game, from that point on you have 2 days to post. Fail to do so and I will be forced to replace you, don't let it come to that please.

[Davsto]

@mod if the Lynch threshold was really 2 on the last day then Shos was the hammer

what does this mean?

There was a Dead Counsel vote

I believe that the Counsel's votes don't effectively take place until there is a VC? Or maybe because it was actually 3 to lynch on the last day.

[Davsto]

Wait shit no you might be right