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Post Post #106 (isolation #0) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:57 am

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how can I play better?
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #111 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:46 am

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In post 107, mastin2 wrote:I should totally make a general response on how players, in general, might be able to play better, by addressing common shortcomings in them. But as for you specifically, you're someone I'll need to put on the queue; it's simply been too long since we've directly interacted with one another as players, Jake.

Buuuuuuuuut, I'll give you a brief summary of what might help. My memory of you is of you being an arrogant ass. That's presumably changed, but I know the arrogant part remains since you've said here and there things that imply it and I think you even said in a thread or two of how you were proud to be arrogant. Effective listening comes from dropping the 'ass' part of it (I think you might have done so already, but if not, consider it), and effective scumhunting from reducing the 'arrogant' part. Reducing, but not eliminating. You can hold a fair amount of arrogance; the key is not letting your arrogance blind you, as it does occasionally do. And when it comes to being arrogant, you have to be lovably arrogant. (For instance, for the most part, I love playing with Majiffy--not despite his arrogance, but largely in part because of it.)

If you've already learned these lessons and I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, well, then, again, the only way I'm going to be able to help is by directly interacting with you, because the above is the best I've got off of only having indirectly interacted with you. (Sorry.)
I guess I never really thought about it like that, I never really considered myself arrogant until I looked it up in the dictionary for a refresher on the meaning and yeah I guess my play would come off as arrogant. I don't really think I am better than others, but I have trouble following people of unknown alignment.

I am not really able to town read people very often so trusting them is hard to do unless they can put together a good case, nobody seems to be able to put together cases anymore
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #113 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:59 pm

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If trust is a key aspect, I'm screwed
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Post Post #115 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:53 pm

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Not really cause you don't know who is on your team.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:13 pm

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Well I guess I have identified my problem, now how do I fix it...
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4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #125 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:24 am

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In post 120, Espeonage wrote:
In post 119, Blair wrote:
In post 113, Jake from State Farm wrote:If trust is a key aspect, I'm screwed
It isn't.
It can be. If you aren't working with the rest of the town, then the game is going to go downhill fast.
But what do you do if nobody agrees with your scum read and you don't agree with the alternatives?
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #129 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:07 am

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You obviously never played with me lol. I'm the most persistent person ever
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Post Post #134 (isolation #7) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:33 pm

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Tl:dr ;)
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Post Post #139 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:36 am

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In post 138, Ankamius wrote:1. My day play as mafia is terribad. With my recently completed game, how could I have handled D1 and D2 better?
i'm certainly not mastin but you survived til end game and won in that game. That to me implies your day 1/2 couldn't have been that bad...
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #141 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:46 am

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oh ok
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4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #157 (isolation #10) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:30 am

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In post 156, Majiffy wrote:Always kill a self-voter with fire. The
only
time a self-vote is a good idea is if you're scum gambiting the "frustrated suicidal townie" look to save yourself from a lynch. And so, if you are a townie seeing someone self-vote, assume it is a scum gambit.
I can get behind this one
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #162 (isolation #11) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:48 am

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You should be lynching all Lurkers anyway. If you aren't then you aren't doing it right.
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #168 (isolation #12) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:23 pm

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If you can't be active don't sign up to play. If you know in a month you will be on vacation, don't sign up. If something happens and you can't be active anymore, replace out IMO.

Not having anything to say is bullshit cause there is always something to say. If you don't know how to scum hunt, go learn how. You don't learn by sitting on the sidelines.
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #170 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:33 am

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is that a dig at my 6 replacements? majority of my reasons were the "if something happens and you can't be active anymore"
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #186 (isolation #14) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:07 pm

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that's lol

A buddy of mine set his pronoun to she because he thinks girls don't get lynched often.
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #188 (isolation #15) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:10 pm

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I can't believe they lynched reinoe day 2
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #189 (isolation #16) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:11 pm

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In post 187, Moratorium wrote:It's been an issue for me at times.
Yeah your avatar makes you look like scum lol
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #193 (isolation #17) » Sat May 17, 2014 5:50 am

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In post 191, kuribo wrote:
In post 189, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 187, Moratorium wrote:It's been an issue for me at times.
Yeah your avatar makes you look like scum lol

I picture some people, including you, as literally their avatar


I wanna buy insurance from you
If I shaved I probably don't look to far off from that. You actually look like yours lol
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2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #194 (isolation #18) » Sat May 17, 2014 5:51 am

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In post 192, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Well, I know I do it for you kuribo :D.
This guy is scum. Look at his avy
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4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #205 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:53 am

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In post 202, Antihero wrote:mastin!

i need you to help me suck less.
Be more proactive and don't play like you did in that game that just ended and you will be better
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #245 (isolation #20) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:20 pm

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Serious question, how do I get better and less tunnely?
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4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #247 (isolation #21) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:52 pm

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I'm not going out of my way to avoid anyone but I'll try to remember. Still not sure if I'm going to play or not but want to figure out how to stop tunneling and how to convince people to Lynch people I know are scum. My last game I knew someone was scum and that person survived and won. That's like the 2 or 3rd time its happened.
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #248 (isolation #22) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:53 pm

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I think you were one of the other people, fucking Miller claim lol
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Post Post #252 (isolation #23) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:08 pm

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at this point I have been insulted so many times across all my accounts I think I am pretty numb to it by now but yeah I'd love thoughts. I really want to improve my play and to be taken seriously when I try to lynch somebody.
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #255 (isolation #24) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:00 am

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I am going on vacation tomorrow for a week so no rush. Won't even consider playing any games until I come back
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4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #281 (isolation #25) » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:33 am

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In post 278, Plotinus wrote:I don't mind losing especially if the other side plays well. but
even when i win
and even when I've done my best, I feel like my best wasn't good enough. I can see the gaps between me and everyone else. It's like everyone else can just multiply in their heads and I have to count up on my fingers.

Welcome to my world.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #26) » Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:06 pm

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Barring scumslips there are not many true scum tells. Town does scummy things all the time which makes the game harder. It's also easy to manipulate townies posts to make them look scummy.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:13 pm

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I know how I can improve, what I don't know is how to actually do it. As mastin said I'm still an arrogant ass who doesn't listen to anyone else and tunnels like a son of a bitch but idk how to stop doing it.
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3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #304 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:04 am

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Sup
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Post Post #306 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:20 am

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You can do him first, I'm probably beyond help anyway
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Post Post #308 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:57 pm

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I'd like advice on how to improve, please

Thank you
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Post Post #315 (isolation #31) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:30 am

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In post 310, T S O wrote:What specifically is your problem? Towngame, scumgame, scumhunting? I'm not omniscient, Jake. I just seem like it.

I play well imo, meaning people usually do good at reading me as town and I feel they can't read me as scum but I have trouble convincing people to lynch the person I feel is scum especially when I put together a case I feel is good. I also have trouble changing my focus when people don't make good cases.
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4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #317 (isolation #32) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:00 am

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I have advice but cant give it right now.
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