Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, I did not as scum governor a player for no reason then try to get a lynch/vig on her.

That should end all debate pretty much.

[RadiantCowbells]

cuz if you're going to tunnel me we're doing this we're doing this today while there's still a chance of a cross kill.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Persivul

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think you have any goddamn clue what actions are scummy or not, actually.

[RadiantCowbells]

I did not target anyone at night because I don't have any night actions.

[RadiantCowbells]

If there's two scum and you're going to deathtunnel me anyway then I might as well get your sorry ass out of the way first so that scum might be able to cross kill each other.

Plus, I don't know Ranger's alignment, and if he is mafia he could easily, regardless of your alignment, claim that I targeted dead and force this fight anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

*eye roll*

Care to explain that vote in the slightest?

Persivul is obviously town

I don't give a shit who is obviously what if he won't stop calling me scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

A little RC-BS distancing maybe?

this is why we can't have nice things.

[RadiantCowbells]

So that means RC and

No, it means you're just dumb.

[RadiantCowbells]

Can we agree that if you're town when this game's over I get to slap you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can we agree that if you're town when this game's over I get to slap you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Wednesday clearly had no scum motivation in her play and I got no manipulative vibes from her.

She didn't flip scum.

Survivor =\= scum.

I'm very happy with my correct Wednesday read, thank you. If she claimed survivor I would not have touched her with a 50 ft. pole

I just reviewed the VCs and I think the only time you were on scum was in D1 when you voted yourself.

We're agreeing that I get to slap you right?

[RadiantCowbells]

Or aren't you forgetting that we haven't actually lynched scum this game?

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't be so anti-3P yo

[RadiantCowbells]

No, it's not a 3p claim.

But I would have had nothing against allowing Wednesday to live had she claimed 3p.

Not sure about Flubber cuz I probably wouldn't have believed his claim.

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually I think it does because that means that Blackstar lied about his bus.

[RadiantCowbells]

Blackstar had to have lied period, right?

I don't mind just going LaL on that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Here's the answer: because Firebringer actually killed him.

I don't think that he'd realize that his fakeclaim about his bus drive targets would come back to haunt him.

Don't forget, Maf killed firebringer. Maf knew he was lying about his target.

[RadiantCowbells]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SHIT YEAH.

LOL.

REKT

VOTE: Blackstar

[RadiantCowbells]

I was like WTF kind of bullshit wifom happened that caused that shit.

[RadiantCowbells]

I see everyone else as town.

Blackstar's been scummy as shit today and other days and I think this will end the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

You do have something of a point.

But Black has been so ungodly scummy today that I don't really see myself changing my vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

*blows a kiss to FA*

Sorry for getting you vigged

[RadiantCowbells]

If there's 2 scum, it has to be Ranger + someone else or Blackstar + someone else.

Since Ranger is objectively the townier of the two by far, we are lynching Blackstar. We can worry about additional scums later.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am town.

There is confirmed scum in Blackstar/Ranger.

Blackstar is scummy as shit.

->

I lynch Blackstar.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you agree or disagree with my premise: that there is confirmed scum in Blackstar and Ranger?

[RadiantCowbells]

Man, you guys are being incredibly obtuse.

[RadiantCowbells]

pretty goddamn scummy?

I think I said this before.

[RadiantCowbells]

do I have to?

[RadiantCowbells]

why?

you think I'm scum, don't ya?

you were voting me.

why do you gaf why scum is voting you?

[RadiantCowbells]

No we ARE NOT FUCKING LYNCHING RANGER.

What is the MATTER WITH YOU GUYS WHICH OF YOU IS SCUM WITH BLACK.

[RadiantCowbells]

Black is literally so fucking obviously scum that it blows my mind.

What are you DOING right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

PERSIVUL HOW ARE YOUR READS SO CONSISTENTLY SHITTY EVERY SINGLE GAME I PLAY WITH YOU.

ARE YOU SCUM HERE OR SOMETHING I DONT EVEN KNOW

[RadiantCowbells]

I will govern Ranger if you try to lynch him.

flat out.

[RadiantCowbells]

We are lynching Blackstar. he is obviously scum and has essentially scumclaimed.

if he is not the only scum we will lynch Persivul.

end discussion. good bye.

[RadiantCowbells]

FA was acting way different from her norm and I'm not used to her attempting to be town leader as town.

My ability to read her as improved from this game. I was wrong there, doesn't mean I'm wrong anywhere else.

[RadiantCowbells]

If there's two scum left, one of them is Blackstar.

If there's one scum left, it might be Ranger. You/Almost are cleraly not his partners, so that leaves maybe Daves who I'm townreading.

We lynch Blackstar, cease discussion. I don't trust any of you guys right now with how hard you're defending Blackstar when he's done nothing whatsoever to make anyone tihnk that he's town and blatantly fished for a counterwagon to his own.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, how are we having this discussion today?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think you're scum because it doesn't make any sense that everyone is taking your side here.

[RadiantCowbells]

If there was an immediate bandwagon on you I'd consider unvoting and thinking about it.

Crowd mentality in favour of Ranger lynch -> I speedlynch you Blackstar.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's how I caught Shos in my last game and got town a N1 victory with my vengekill on the other scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Here's my reasoning in a nutshell.

If there are 2 scum alive, the second scum is with Blackstar and not with Ranger.

If there's 1, I don't give a shit who gets lynched today.

Compende?

[RadiantCowbells]

welp I'm rc

reasons.

[RadiantCowbells]

fixed.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't have one, but I was hoping to bluff you guys into being not retarded.

I think Almost50 is the other maf but it's hard to say for sure.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry for 1731. I'd appreciate it if mod would change the phrasing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and I have one more argument.

Werewolf is far more 'interesting' than mafia because it's underplayed. That's why you see more of them than mafia.

I can't at all fathom that Blackstar would choose Mafia over Werewolf.

[RadiantCowbells]

that ranger.

But seriously guys, Blackstar is p fucking obviously scum here.

I'm getting a rather low opinion of both of you, assuming you're both town.

If one of you is scum, well played, and the other should slap themself hard for this play.

Ranger; Persy has been ANALYTICALLY proven town. There is no acceptable scenario in which he could be either mafia or WW.

No, he hasn't. And that doesn't mean you're lynching correctly either.

But if Persy is town he should pull his head out of his derriere.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mixed up the names.

I don't believe that RANGER would have chosen Mafia over Werewolf. Werewolves are less common ergo cooler.

Besides, where's your case on Ranger scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

I actually think that Almost50 is the scumpartner right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Davesaz, pls save me.

[RadiantCowbells]

from the insanity of this town.

talk with me, you agree that Blackstar is far more likely to be scum than Ranger here, right?

Do you agree with what I'm seeing that Almost50 could be scumpartnered with Black?

[RadiantCowbells]

Fuck off.

We aren't lynching Ranger today.

Why can't you guys be scum together?

Why does it make no sense for you to shoot an inactive? Quit straw manning the thread up.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, because it would be explicitly an alignment choice.

I am fully townreading Ranger over Blackstar.

[RadiantCowbells]

youngest makes decisions imo.

[RadiantCowbells]

ok we go by blackjack rules.

I'm 21, I go.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize that you were too not awesome to play blackjack rules.

[RadiantCowbells]

w/e I'm done.

VOTE: Ranger

We lose this it's entirely not my fault.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not arguing with idiots when all of you are apparently scumreading me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm past that point.

We've either lost or won and it wasn't based off of my decisions.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes, you have.

Thank Persivul for being a gigantic idiot.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd look pretty dumb if Ranger flipped maf tbh but that's so unlikely that I'm not even worried about it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and before I get blamed for this:

every towny alive is claiming to scumread me besides Ranger.

there's no way I'm persuading you when apparently you all think that I'm scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not going to argue with you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I told everyone you were scum and they didn't lynch you.

[RadiantCowbells]

Here's another way of saying this.

I'm not being scumread because I'm objectively scummy but because people are paranoid of me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not scum though.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I'm not saying you are 100%, but I'm saying that Ranger is town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ranger flips town.

If you're not scum with Blackstar, Blackstar was the sole remaining scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

You sound like it because you're hard pushing for a Ranger lynch when it made no sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

LOL (again). Like, the ONLY person I did push for the previous time was my scum partner. (aphix). Go read the game, mate. It sounds like you never looked at it after you got NK'd.

You pushed for me though :S

That's why I thought you were scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Last game.

Shouldn't bus in multiball though.

So if you're town then it's either Pers/Black or just black.

[RadiantCowbells]

I can't govern ranger.

I am one shot.

[RadiantCowbells]

boop!

[RadiantCowbells]

told you.

don't be dumb next time.

VOTE: BlackStar

[RadiantCowbells]

I told you not to be dumb.

Blackstar was the correct lynch yesterday and obviously so :S

[RadiantCowbells]

"welp I'm RC."

[RadiantCowbells]

You have a coroner guilty on you.

If Daves is your partner then you two can hurry up and NL and we can play bus driver roulette.

If you have no partner you can just be quiet and get lynched.

[RadiantCowbells]

fwiw I'm assuming that you guys would already have endgamed if Almost50 was your partner.

If he is, you can hurry up and NL anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, it's not.

You are scum and if you are alone you might as well selfvote.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, pretty much.

I have no goddamn clue how town got the impression that lynching Ranger was a good idea yesterday when you were basically scumclaiming.

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

It literally doesn't matter. Ranger's guilty confirms him as scum and we have no reason to believe Blackstar told the truth whatsoever if he can get away with it.

That said, I don't think we should lynch until Almost apologizes for insulting my town play when he was pushing a mislynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am town.

If I were survivor, I would absolutely be mafsiding right now with how annoyed I am with both you and Almost for that lynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

I misphrased that, sorry.

with both Persivul and Almost.

It is providing great insight into your personality though, and I'm looking forward to using that understanding for reading you better in the future.

*shrug*

If I'm neutral I help the faction that I feel deserves the win the most.

It most certainly would not be a town that ignored the mafia that I called out, and who didn't kill me in return either.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean c'mon you must at least agree that calling me a 'hindrance to town' when I'm trying to lynch scum and he's trying to lynch town is both uncalled for and frankly wrong.

[RadiantCowbells]

I did call that reaction (what do you mean not mafia when my modifier affects seers) a scum slip

I know for a fact I called that one out publicly as well

along with a bunch of the other things that apparently I didn't notice

Almsot, your top 2 scumreads were town. So were Persi's. when your reads are that offbase there's nothing really I can do to change your mind.

VOTE: blackstar

[RadiantCowbells]

I did when he got coroner guiltied but I was tired of arguing with Persivul who is basically a brick wall and Almost who was too busy complaining about how I play.

[RadiantCowbells]

Persivul, your top 2 scumreads were both town.

That problem is with you and not me.

I can be plenty persuasive to people who are willing to be persuaded.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's pretty common on this site.

It's also why people like Flubber get lynched every game.

Instead, I see it as people are what they are and it's my responsibility to read them.

That's how you improve as a player, instead of blaming other people for your own poor reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

No one said I played perfectly, but at least my misplays are discrete rather than systemic issues with the way I play.

And one more thing...town won! Amazing that instead of enjoying that you have to criticize people for not playing perfectly.

Town didn't win the game; scum cross killed themselves to death.

[RadiantCowbells]

FA, yes.

I didn't scumread you.

[RadiantCowbells]

You said that BlackStar was town for you.

I will kill you with my bare hands.....

fight me, I'll turn you into ashes you cheeky ice loving devil.

[RadiantCowbells]

The difference is that survivors can win with town.

I'd think that was obvious.