Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

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no one is voting me i can't omgus
VOTE: lillith
ppl need to hop on the wagon

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no one is voting me i can't omgus
VOTE: lillith
ppl need to hop on the wagon

I was so close to voting you!
Glad we could agree on something instead though!

I can't believe you would ever deny me my right to omgus im very hurt

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OMGUS ACTIVATE

VOTE: Bluetrin

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i feel truly blessed

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VOTE: amihan

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I'm not laughing

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Also that sounds like u have something to say
Why not just say it?

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Amihan, what do you currently think about your wagon?

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Cool, that's not gonna happen
Thoughts on your wagon?

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can you at least answer my question?

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you know when people say "too scummy to be scum"? I finally understand the sentiment

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No, I currently like my vote. I just understand where people get the sentiment now.

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No, I currently like my vote. I just understand where people get the sentiment now.

I don't understand. Are you saying that Ami is too scummy to be scum?

Yes, but that doesn't make her not scum imo

(that doesn't help, does it)

p.edit oh look 5 posts

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we aren't going to lynch the mod. please drop the topic.

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The point is, we're in a blitz game, and "lynching the mod" is not going to have an effect, and will waste what precious time we have.
so

let's talk about something else.

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Firebringer, what are your thoughts on lillith?

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any reasons?

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The point is, we're in a blitz game, and "lynching the mod" is not going to have an effect, and will waste what precious time we have.

We have 3 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes.

With 11 alive it's 6 to lynch.

5 players have posted in the last 25 minutes. Xtoxm posted an hour ago.

There is nothing to be lost here. I strongly, strongly encourage that you all just trust me here.

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does anyone else think ami is just trolling

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right then I will be back in an hour and hopefully by then all talk of lynching RC will have stopped

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Heat, why did you ask fb about his read on me?

I wanted to divert attention back to the game.

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i picked two people what came to my head
idk why you're reading so hard into it

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i picked two people

who

came to my head
idk why you're reading so hard into it

EBWOP

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ok

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i picked two people what came to my head
idk why you're reading so hard into it

This also is a weirdly defensive post.
Why so defensive about a simple question, Heat?

It wasn't meant to sound defensive, I was just a bit weirded out that Lilith chose to focus on who I asked so intently

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Heat, why did you ask fb about his read on me?

I wanted to divert attention back to the game.

It didn't come off as genuine since you not too later posted a gif reaction at ami

Ya cause I was close to flipping on ami cause she wasn't fucking dropping the topic!!
Like why are we still talking about it

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Ya cause I was close to flipping on ami cause she wasn't fucking dropping the topic!!
Like why are we still talking about it

Because you wanting to get off the topic looks more like posturing about it than actually getting off the topic

That wasnt my intention though but anyways it looks like the whole matter is resolved now.

VOTE: Lillith

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Gut mostly
I'm not quite comfortable with things that you've posted

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LOL WHAT

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dislike Heat the most. Obviously. Don't like his scumhunting(or lack there of) and his tone.

ok, you dislike me. that's fine.

explain why it is "obvious"
explain how I am not scumhunting.
explain how my tone is off.

because it looks like you picked a random person and threw up some reasons and called it a day. Not to mention a bunch of naked townreads LOL

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You've literally done nothing besides talk about how stupid lynching the mod is and whining about how we just need to drop it. You did nothing to steer the conversation into a new direction yourself and just expected others to do it for you. A lot of inactivity across the board, so thanks for being active, but you're doing nothing all the while acting like you've been doing something, which is scummier than doing nothing.

ya it was a stupid conversation and it was guiding the game in the wrong direction. And I treied to move the game along by asking ppl about their opinions of others, aka Firebringer and Lillith.

How am I "woe is me"? that expression is used when you're complaining about the current situation that you're in. I'm not in that situation.

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Don't like his reaction to Fire's vote. Looks liked riled scum.

his vote on me is bad

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So a vote for Heat is a vote for a lynch. Heat 2016.

thanks but the Canadian election was last year.

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You have not posted thoughts on lillith. What are they?

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Mm currently my townreads are FA and Bringer. I'd like to see a bit more of Ami now that the whole kerfuffle is over.

It's bad because his entire case on me is effectively that I haven't tried to move the game forward which is blatantly untrue if you look through my ISO.

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ok I took a step away from the thread bc i was starting to get really angry but I have cooled off now!

I am ok with tentatively calling Ami town for a couple of reasons:
-it seems like a pretty newbie thing to do, which isn't really AI
-The Ami wagon formed uncomfortably quickly, and if ppl didn't unvote when she got to L-1, then she would have been lynched

But I'm not quite sure I'm sold on it, so I'd like to see more from her slot.

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Concerning my Bringer town read, these posts currently strike me as town. I agree with the way he read lillith back in the thread. and he's been going through trying to sort the game.

RC you're not gonna weigh in on whether you think I hate you?

Okay. Hi xtox.

You know I'm not a fan of reaction tests. What are you expecting to learn from me?

Yeah but.. that wagon was so fast.

No, I currently like my vote. I just understand where people get the sentiment now.

I don't understand. Are you saying that Ami is too scummy to be scum?

A lot of these seems fake to me.

Cool, I think Jackal is town. THats how many town now?
Aristo, me, Jackal.
We are getting there fellas!

FB whats your read on Ami ?

Null. Possibly VI. Don't think scum atm.

does anyone else think ami is just trolling

Tone wise I really think she is legit on her thoughts right now.
I believe she truly believes the stuff she is saying.
If she is trolling, she has fooled me.

Overall, his ISO is fairly sparse, but thats sort of who fire is so im not too worried about that. I like is lillith and his Ami reads progression.

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These are the FA posts that I like.

At least this whole ordeal has provided for some decent reaction and stance analysis - knowing that Frozen Angel wasn't actually in the same boat as me. If she were scum knowing me to be a distracting town player and potential town lynch, I definitely could see her fake-sounding mod lynch queries on the last page as a form of white-knighting me. As town, I don't think she would post all of that while still voting me either. It makes more sense for scum to stay on the easy wagon while faking consideration of what everyone else thought was insane.

ha?

Is the mod vote shit in your role pm or not ? I want a clear answer from RC if thats a joke it must end now becuase its hurting the game.

what white knighting ? wtf are you talking about I didn't clear you or anything I just want to make sure that your a troll before lynching you. if thats a real story we can talk

VOTE: Amihan

becuase all he can get from 7 pages is paranoia of me being white knighting him in all these pages :/

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Heat
On mobile, sorry, busy day at work. Mostly caught up, dislike Heat the most. Obviously. Don't like his scumhunting(or lack there of) and his tone.

I like Aristopanes, FA, and Flubber. Everyone else needs to post. So hypocritical I know.

why do you like me

I basically did nothing to make you like me

This is mostly a gut read, if we're being completely honest, and I am wary of FA bc she's been known to completely fuck over town when she's mafia (see: bringer mafia/denmark mafia). But I like the posts because of what she's responding to, which are reads that are either naked or don't make a lot of sense. She's engaging with things that need to be engaged, and thats what I like.

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Firestarter, could you go through Lillith's ISO and find what posts you like/don't like? I'll go through my own ISO like you asked in a little bit, I need to go make food.

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Spoiler: Important parts of my ISO, For Fire Starter

Amihan, what do you currently think about your wagon?

Cool, that's not gonna happen
Thoughts on your wagon?

This was when the whole "lynch the mod" debacle was starting. Ami's wagon had quickly risen very quickly, and focusing on what she herself thinks of it was important to me. It kinda got swept under the whole "lynch the mod" thing tho

Firebringer, what are your thoughts on lillith?

any reasons?

I don't particularly think any follow ups are necessary here, other than maybe a thank you for giving me the opinions? You trying to say I'm scummy for not following up doesn't really make sense here. How would you have followed up?

Ya cause I was close to flipping on ami cause she wasn't fucking dropping the topic!!
Like why are we still talking about it

Because you wanting to get off the topic looks more like posturing about it than actually getting off the topic

That wasnt my intention though but anyways it looks like the whole matter is resolved now.

VOTE: Lillith

And now the debacle is resolved, with Ami backing off, so I focused my efforts on lillith, who is next on my sorting list.

Fire Starter, I don't really get why you're saying that I'm not doing anything, because I am. Looking through my ISO, it's clear that I did get caught up in the whole Ami thing, but I was trying to steer conversation away from it. Was I successful? Absolutely not. But I was

trying

, and I'm not sure you were understanding that.

In case you don't read the spoiler, Fire Starter, I asked a question in there that I would also like you to answer. How would you have followed up, in the situation where I asked Firebringer his opinion on Lillith?

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How does lillith flipping scum clear me?

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why is everyone null to you?

Because we don't have much content yet, I still consider you could all be scum. So it's my way to say that you look slightly scummier or townish to me. It would be more interesting if people post their reads as we would get more content go through.

I am more interested in the associations at this stage.

Looking at associations before we have any flips really isn't that helpful imo

also we have 10 pages of content right now, you should be able to come up with some solid reads from that.

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I'd like ranger to post her thoughts before anyone else votes her.

(also hi ranger! I'm quite excited to play with you!)

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Unless you're doing a strong early bus in a game that is riddled with PRs, you'd be town.

This line of thought could easily bite you in the ass

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Unless you're doing a strong early bus in a game that is riddled with PRs, you'd be town.

This line of thought could easily bite you in the ass

Pish posh. Should would, could. No fucks.

I like you

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Ranger, what's the reason for Ami's placement?

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Got any particular reason you're excited to play with me? As far as I know, we've never crossed paths before.

Nope, we've never played before. But I've read some of your games, and I've wanted to play w/you for awhile.

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I do not like how BlueTrin came out of 10/11 pages with only null reads, with the most being leans. That doesn't sit well with me at all

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Also I'll save my comment on the FA wagon until tmrw morning.

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HAHAHAHAHA PAGETOP

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I do not like how BlueTrin came out of 10/11 pages with only null reads, with the most being leans. That doesn't sit well with me at all

I think he explained why pretty well, though I will maybe possibly eventually look at other D1s of his to see if he's always wishy washy like this.

But even with the amount of explanation he did, I'd expect something a bit more solid.

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I am in class until deadline so I'm not going to be much help (also I'm phone posting now so nothing rly in depth is possible)
I initially did not share my thoughts about the FA wagon bc I wanted to see her response. And I'm not overly satisfied with it, but her claim sorta gives me pause?

I mean, I've never seen lynchproof town, but it is princess peach so

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In case I don't get on again before deadline:

Amiham needs to die b4 lylo
I am slightly susp of ranger for just posting reads lists and then fucking off when pressure dissipated
Ari is town, FB is town, fire starter is null lean town

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Tbh I haven't had a good read through of your response so most of it is gut, and I won't have time to do a full read through until after deadline.

I know that's not helpful but :s

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God damn it Lilith Rosalina was my first pick!!

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I got hot sauce in my bag, swag

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You said you were unlynchable

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Wait disregard that

It's late at night

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I'll post something tonight
Out at my sisters

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okok i reread but I'm still kinda confused about FA's role, but i guess the short story is that its harder to lynch her

um um ngl but now that I'm home I'm having motivation issues

I'm gonna do my best to skim xtoxm's iso when i have a minute tonight, but no promises cause my family "needs attention" and "misses me" but what do they know

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VOTE: fire starter

That vote on fragger is horrible.

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Yo fragger, I don't understand your ari scumread. Can you walk me through it?

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UNVOTE: Fraggernaut
Want to give him some breathing space ... and decide after he explains himself.

The whole point of a vote is pressure. Giving him breathing room allows him to collect his thoughts and seem more town than he actually is.

Ya but unvoting replacements is prevents lolhammers before they give their thoughts, and gives them time to actually read through and give their thoughts. in this case the point is moot bc fragger had already given reads/stuff, but thats a reason for unvoting a replacement

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VOTE: fire starter

That vote on fragger is horrible.

Why the vote on Fire Starter?

I like Fragger initial posting, and naked voting when you put someone to L-1 is rly scummy

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You said ur vote should always b on someone 4 pressure. I have you a situation where it shouldn't.

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It's a passion of mine

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I am not completely sold on fragger being scum, just because I think his catchup was solid and there was real town thinking behind his thoughts
that being said, the day is winding down and im not sure we would be able to swing a lynch to another candidate, plus we really need a lynch today.

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also I'm a really strong townread of his? like I'm not going to lie, that makes me kinda uncomf bc im not strongly townread all that often

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I think you are town ... is that bad ?

no
but the general trend of my play is that people don't really townread me all that strongly for it. To be at the top of someone's town list is strange

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For some reason FA's post didn't register until I reread it

P. edit: xtoxm said "so we're scum", probably putting that in the wrong PT

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aka thats a pretty bad scumslip.

Ya I'm ok with a fragger lynch now

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Thats a question for FA.

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intent to hammer

I'll cry if he's town. If thats the case, I'm going to take a long look at FA and Ari

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VOTE: fragger

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Fuck I stg I need to trust myself more

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If Aristo was town, scum would have hammered by now.

Unless Frozen Angel and Firestarter are scum ?

Unless they're

both

scum, which is extremely unlikely.

We need a quick hammer though before Aristo bombs.

ari apparently bombs at night

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why the fuck do we have two people pushing a quick lynch right now? we have all day. we need to use it.

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why the fuck do we have two people pushing a quick lynch right now? we have all day. we need to use it.

I unvoted to avoid a quick lynch. who are you talking about ? FS and Amihan claimed to have a guilty on Aristo. and Aristo says FS lied about his flavor and he is voting him.

thats purely based on night actions. is there a problem with their votes?

FS asked why we hadn't quicklynched ari. Amihan wants to quicklynch him too

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Ami. Come on. Stop pushing and just say why you have a guilty.

I could see scum me making this type of comment. I don't like it.

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FS asked why we hadn't quicklynched ari. Amihan wants to quicklynch him too

and whats wrong about it ? their push is based on night results

pushing quicklynches when we're apparently in mylo is not town play. I don't care if you have a guilty or not

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especially when the guilty hasn't been fully explained

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wait fuck

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I'm claiming

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something doesnt add up

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should I wait until ami explains?

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will do.

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Heat the thing thats not adding up is about Aris , FS , Me or Amihan ?

I will answer this when/if I claim

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I will answer this when/if I claim

sure

but at least tell if its related to the fact that you assume Amihan a certain kind of role (investigative for example) or not ...

it's unrelated to that

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Always stay gracious best revenge is your paper

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FS couldn't have targeted FA N1. I jail kept her

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Just fyi

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ill explain later, I'm out at lunch w/the mother

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Y'all are whack

My role says I commute the target.

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Role is jailkeeper
Description says I commute the target.

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I'm Vivian fyi
Paper Mario ftw

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I'll vote when I'm on a laptop

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The point is, FS is lying about his peach result. There's no point for town to lie

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I'm not.

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Amihan, claim your guilty on ari

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I assume you mean Amihan?

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Heat claims Jailor then realizes he made a mistake and then claims commuter. After FA mentions the role commuter.

i am jailkeeper who commutes their target, meaning they

cannot be targeted that night

. I did not go back on my claim.

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Do you think I would need to be coached as scum?

Honestly if I were scum I'd be the one running the show. Or at least running FS.

Joined : January 21, 2016

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Bull. What type of Jailor is that?

The role I have.

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Can flubber pick the order of massclaim or are we gonna popcorn it

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bluetrin what r ur thots on fire starter

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oh ya im on a laptop now so

VOTE: Fire Starter

p.edit: flavour cop gives character names, i guess, and they're indicative of alignment.

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You are gonna wait another night ...
I would like to vote him to put pressure but we are in MyLo

are we 100% in mylo

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You tell me.

HOW AM i SUPPOSED TO KNOW?

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I wld like either Amihan or FS to claim first.

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FS hasn't flavour claimed iirc

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prod received

I guess we're no lynching again today?

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i wld like ari to check in before i tell who i protected

I won't be back on until tonight, cause i have two midterms today.

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ya

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i currently have nothing 2 add but i finished one of my midterms!! one more to go

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i am entertaining a FS/ari scumteam right now
just gut feels rn. don't have anything else.

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can we get a prod on ami?

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can we get a prod on ami?

It hasn't even been 24 hours chill.

i cannot

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Ami, please just claim all the other nights now

like why are you withholding the information

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Ami, please just claim all the other nights now

like why are you withholding the information

Because it allows scum to play around my actions, when they're only useful if scum has limited knowledge.

You should claim who you targeted last night.

i will after everyone finishes the massclaim w/actions

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cool, you flavour claimed
one step at a time

now please claim your actions

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now please claim your actions

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we can sort ari after the massclaim

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...but it also gives town more to work with

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wait why are we voting ari when FS lied about investigating FA

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VOTE: Fire Starter

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Like Town never fucking lies like that

its bullshit. its also SUCH convenient claim to make.

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I have a question for you, did it ever cross your mind that perhaps YOU could have been roleblocked, redirected, jailed(a jailor lol) or something? I GOT A FUCKING RESULT. The end. I went back through and thought that had to mean you were scum which fits so well with Aristophanes being scum, but I open that door as a possibility looking back. TA DA. LITERALLY NO COUNTERCLAIMS TO MINE AND AMI'S GUILTY ON ARISTOPHANES.

I can't be role blocked.
Oh fuck it I should have said this when the day started but whatevs
I'm a mutual jailkeeper so I commute and roleblock myself and my target. I can only use it on odd nights.

If I commute both myself and my target, then I can't be roleblocked. Commute goes first based on NAR.

Anyways Occam's razor says that either myself or my target was the NK at night

Look, I think it's very possible that Aristophanes is scum. But right now, I know that you lied about your action. So I want to lynch you.

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FYI Vivians veil is a godsend in the shadow queen fight (y)

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Other than me omitting the whole "I get jailkept too" thing, how has my story changed

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I commuted myself and FA again

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Heat's pretty obviously scum for what it's worth: his claim keeps changing every time a contradiction in it is pointed out.

then do something about it.

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like, we're all just sitting on our fucking asses doing nothing because we can't get our acts together. You think I'm scum? then vote me.

Amihan needs to get the fuck in here and claim her results because shes a fucking investigative and we need all the information I can get.

I targeted FA on N1 and N3. We both got commuted. fmpov one of us was the NK last night. the reason why I omitted the whole "I commute myself too" was bc i wanted to draw the NK. did it work? idk but there wasnt a kill last night.

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I jailed you, FA
VOTE: ari

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Rawk hawk was an enemy in TTYD. if it's based on alignment, it's probable that ranger is scum

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Who else hasn't flavour claimed?
FA, myself, FB, ranger, and ami have claimed flavour iirc.

And bluetrin
So that leaves FS? Unless I missed the claim

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Bless the year of luigi

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I am not going to lie, I feel like FS and ari are bussing/distancing hardcore
P.edit actually now it's just fucking wifom. Ari pls stop

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Page top!!!

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I am not going to lie, I feel like FS and ari are bussing/distancing hardcore
P.edit actually now it's just fucking wifom. Ari pls stop

Isn't this my job though?

IM GONNA SLAM UR FACE INTO THE SNOW

ALSO
ALSO
POKEMON SUN AND MOON AAAAAH

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guys i have a really important question

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what are your opinions on jorts.

like jean shorts

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I'm dying over here!

good.

but what are your opinions??

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And come on, Cargo Shorts are far better!

i would like to take this opportunity to cement my vote on ari, and if i had the power to double vote, i would.

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i cant tonight, and even if i could, i wouldn't

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well, actually maybe i would

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HAHAHAHAHA TWO PAGE TOPS

and idk. a man purse, perhaps? a backpack?

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tims coffee is so bad

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i am trash and take milk/cream and sugar bc i am weak

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Amihan what the hell was Amihan again? motion detector?

i think investigative JoAT

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I already said that I couldn't use my night action last night.

Amihan is probably town. FB, claim.

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ari i fucking love you

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Both FS and Ami were investigative roles. FS flipped scum, so its likely that ami is town

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Maybe ami would like to tell us?
Finally??

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I would like to say that FB is currently voting me, and supposedly its Lylo. I have not been quickhammered
that means that either myself or FB are scum, or this is not Lylo

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I want to know why FB thinks I'm scum

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WHAT THE FUCK FB

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oh well, I had fun this game!