Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Lilleth

Why do you hate RC anyway?

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Lilleth

Why do you hate RC anyway?

ARISTOPHANES
How you doing mate?

Wonderfully Fire!
How about yourself?

It's been a while!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Lilleth

Why do you hate RC anyway?

ARISTOPHANES
How you doing mate?

Wonderfully Fire!
How about yourself?

It's been a while!

Decent.
Yeah we haven't played together since drunk mafia night on skype lol.

Lol Good times man!

We should do that again sometime!

[Aristophanes]

no one is voting me i can't omgus
VOTE: lillith
ppl need to hop on the wagon

I was so close to voting you!
Glad we could agree on something instead though!

[Aristophanes]

no one is voting me i can't omgus
VOTE: lillith
ppl need to hop on the wagon

I was so close to voting you!
Glad we could agree on something instead though!

I can't believe you would ever deny me my right to omgus im very hurt

I'll see what I can do if you start to bring the heat.
No promises though!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Lilleth

Why do you hate RC anyway?

I don't he just thinks I do, idk why

VOTE: FA for being above me in the playerlist

I dunno, he's pretty adamant about it.

Also, FA is now above your post too

no one is voting me i can't omgus
VOTE: lillith
ppl need to hop on the wagon

Hi there, this is my second game here

VOTE: Heat

Hi Mr new guy!
What makes you vote Heat? Played with him in game 1?

Not that it matters. Your avatar clearly states you are a commie bastard!
VOTE: RedTrin

Man I'm good! XD

Vote tag fixed.

[Aristophanes]

Shit, this isn't my Communist game.

Scratch that.

[Aristophanes]

i feel truly blessed

#Blessed!

You're scum for not using the hash tag I hope you know!

[Aristophanes]

Thanks RC!

[Aristophanes]

RC you're not gonna weigh in on whether you think I hate you?

don't hate him!

Or as his .... I will force to hate you

Ooooo!
Gossip time!

I like fill in the blanks!
Is it Peach?

[Aristophanes]

Alright, FA is town.

[Aristophanes]

Okay guys let's lynch the mod. For real, since it's a proven possibility.

Maybe this can end in a win for everyone except the mod?

Oh my god you really are scum, aren't you.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Amihan

[Aristophanes]

Xtoxm, you do realize that once you say something us a reaction test it ceases to be relevant, right?

Ninja'd
That's L-1 fellas.

Ninja'd again.
Yup! It was.

Fucking ninja Xotom!
Oh, you're agreeing.
Okay then.

God dammit Lilith! I swear to Ninjagod!
I like this actually. You can stay.

[Aristophanes]

God dammit Lilith! I swear to Ninjagod!
I like this actually. You can stay.

Why?

Necause you unvoted so that we can think critically about it.
Which is good and towny.

[Aristophanes]

On my home site we lynched the mod and it caused them to expose a random player. I know most games here aren't like that but this one seems sillier than most, and the mod counted my vote unlike the norm so I think there's a fair chance going for it could help no matter what.

Usually a Mod vote is considered either a novote or a nolynch vote.

Neither is helpful.

[Aristophanes]

Let's see she if she's going to start playing seriously before we go further.

P-edit: Arist, I mean reaction test in the very basic sense. Wagoning someone for pressure is a reaction test. Just because someone knows i'm relatively null on them and just trying to get a read, doesn't mean they can necessarily respond any better to that pressure if they're scum.

I disagree, but I think this can be saved for post game chat.

[Aristophanes]

Cool, that's not gonna happen
Thoughts on your wagon?

There's no possible negatives from lynching the mod as far as I can tell.

Post review:

Mod, can you tell us what would happen if we successfully lynched "RadiantCowbells"?

If it's not counted as a no lynch, we should at the very least try it. If nothing happens then you all can laugh at me, but until then just work with me here.

You are making yourself the single most lynch able person I've seen in a long time.

Like, wow...

[Aristophanes]

You are making yourself the single most lynch able person I've seen in a long time.

Like, wow...

Why "lynchable" over "scummy"?

What is your objective here in voting me, and presumably wanting to lynch me?

Lynchable over scummy because I don't know if scum would do this. I am rethinking at the moment, but your self awareness of that fact creates more wine for me to drink.

I'm not jumping off the wagon, but I am reconsidering my viewpoint.

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes, you think I am town?
Cause I think you might be town.

Want to be town buddies?

Indeed!
Thus would please me to no end!

[Aristophanes]

So, Ami has previous experience (which sounds bullshit if you ask me)

and

something role related that has to do with lynching RC?

I am so not believing this that it isn't funny.
However, BOTD questions.

Ami, I wouldn't normally ask, but you brought it up.
Is there an aspect to your role that has to do with a mod lynch and if so, what is it?
Nobody will vote with you if you don't tell us why we should.

[Aristophanes]

Heat, why did you ask fb about his read on me?

I wanted to divert attention back to the game.

Okay, but why me specifically? Why not Aristo or xtox?

Lets lynch Lilith2013

Let's not.

Why me specifically, Lileth?

[Aristophanes]

Firebringer, I kinda dislike the way Lilith is posting too and see some possible fakeness there.
Thus Ami stuff really needs to be sorted and ended though, so I'm not moving my vote there yet.

[Aristophanes]

Because I thought Heat chose two people who were active in thread at the time. iirc you and xtox were both posting recently before heat's question.

But he's already been pretty explicit, at least on myself.
That's what raised my eyebrow there.

[Aristophanes]

Wow that was a really freaking quick turnaround.

It's early game still. Everything is settling and reads are fickle.

I want to sort you, so let's see where this goes!

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes, you think I am town?
Cause I think you might be town.

Want to be town buddies?

Indeed!
Thus would please me to no end!

Yep, you missed it I guess, Lil.

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:
Were gonna let Ami answer first, then I'll jump back on.
I want her to know she is very much up for lynch, but I also want to make sure we get something out of her first.

[Aristophanes]

Okay, so Lil, some questions then.

What made you speculate that lynching RC would do necktie things rather than nothing? Where did this come from?
It just seems weird that you are giving this credence here.

What is your read on Heat? They are a popular name in your ISO.

Why do 124 and 128 feel so defensive? Among other posts, they appear more worried about yourself than others. You don't appear to be sorting the game, just reacting to it.

[Aristophanes]

i picked two people what came to my head
idk why you're reading so hard into it

This also is a weirdly defensive post.
Why so defensive about a simple question, Heat?

[Aristophanes]

Wow, why is this not lynched yet?

VOTE: Amihan

Even if town, which I don't think is likely, needs to be gone asap.

Oh and for the record I believe this is

L-1

Do you have nothing else to say about the game?
Really?

[Aristophanes]

Can do. I'm keeping you at null for now, but this makes me feel somewhat better and I would like to see more interactions in order to move you on the list.

Thanks Lil!

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes lets lynch Lilith. FOR NORMANDY!

Lol
I'll sleep on it

Normandy will survive e the night....
I hope!

[Aristophanes]

But I siriously think there is a mechanic or something for lynching the mod right now

specially becuase of the blue thing in RC's VC

Then vote it.
Your vote is still on Ani.

I think this whole ordeal is ridiculous though, unless someone gives me something concrete to believe.

[Aristophanes]

I have got to know which Mario character has "1. Lynch the Mod 2.??? 3.Profit" In their Wiki

Regardless, glad this is all over!
I have to go back and get other reads since I've decided to hold off on Lil for now.
off the top of my head, Firebringer town, Flub Town, FA scumlean.

[Aristophanes]

Hmm...
An awful lot of Gut going around on Lil.
anyone have aactual reasons to scumread her?

[Aristophanes]

dislike Heat the most. Obviously. Don't like his scumhunting(or lack there of) and his tone.

ok, you dislike me. that's fine.

explain why it is "obvious"
explain how I am not scumhunting.
explain how my tone is off.

because it looks like you picked a random person and threw up some reasons and called it a day. Not to mention a bunch of naked townreads LOL

I am not naked!
I'm in a loincloth

And I think the "obvious" scumread is because he had literally just voted you.
Unless he thinks you've obvscummed, which I guess is possible though I'd like to see an explanation if so.

The rest I'd like to see reasoning for though!

[Aristophanes]

Shit, I got prodded somehow. And here I thought I was being active...

Only a page behind. Will read.

[Aristophanes]

See, this is what I mean by an opportunistic Lilith wagon.
All of the votes are about tone. Which I don't disagree is a tad odd, but it's not lynch worthy without other reasoning.
If she flips scum, well then shoot me I guess. But I don't see it right now.

I was looking at Jackal a bit earlier, and was considering a vote there. I'll reread and be back momentarily. (I only remember 2 posts. Shouldn't be a long iso.)

[Aristophanes]

Hello everyone
VOTE: Firebringer
Always scum

Wow, why is this not lynched yet?

VOTE: Amihan

Even if town, which I don't think is likely, needs to be gone asap.

Oh and for the record I believe this is

L-1

Wow, why is this not lynched yet?

VOTE: Amihan

Even if town, which I don't think is likely, needs to be gone asap.

Oh and for the record I believe this is

L-1

Do you have nothing else to say about the game?
Really?

Plenty, but would take hours to post it by phone.
Do not have working internet on my PC atm.

Right. So the above 3 posts are his whole iso.

The first is fine. RVS shit. Whatever.

The second is a shitty wagon vote on an easy target without any questions. And he goes "even if town, good lynch" which gives me creepy scum vibes. That is the worst type of apathetic reasoning.

In the third, I had asked for his reads, and basically got "I have them, I swear, but it's too much work, so you can't have them." Once again, busywork. Looks like he's helping but he's contributed nothing.
Had he gone "so and so is a scum read and so and so is a town read but I can't go into it because technical issues" I'd be alright with it. But he just blatantly gives nothing.

Totally okay with this. Scum posting and mentality.

VOTE: Jackal

[Aristophanes]

What's not nice about the replacement out?

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:

Ranger is cool.
The replacement out was towny but I kept the vote there to gauge the replacement.

The other votes there are shit and the wagon, save for my vote, sucks ass.

Lilith isn't a great wagon either.

Will review and make a case elsewhere now that we have new info.

[Aristophanes]

Actually, pre-reread,
VOTE: FA

Wagon vote on Ranger was crappy shit.
The stuff with Ami has been mentioned.
I saw their vote on Ranger coming, she just set it up to wait for a replacement by "not liking the replace out" until a new player was here, then "losing interest" In Ami when it was clearly lost a while ago.

This is good shit.

NinjaFlub!
Will read.

[Aristophanes]

If nothing else, you are at L-2 with less than a day until deadline and you could fullclaim.

I do not condone this.
Bad play.

[Aristophanes]

This FA wagon feelsl ike it came out of literally nowhere.

I've been watching her for a while.

[Aristophanes]

This FA wagon feelsl ike it came out of literally nowhere.

I've been watching her for a while.

That sounds creepier than expected...

[Aristophanes]

I do not like how BlueTrin came out of 10/11 pages with only null reads, with the most being leans. That doesn't sit well with me at all

I think he explained why pretty well, though I will maybe possibly eventually look at other D1s of his to see if he's always wishy washy like this.

[Aristophanes]

Also I'll save my comment on the FA wagon until tmrw morning.

Looking forward to it.

Also, Fire, how do you figure this came out of nowhere?
My vote was clear, so was Lil's.
It came after a replacement on a lead wagon, by people disenamoured with the other main wagon.

What is your read of FA?

[Aristophanes]

HAHAHAHAHA PAGETOP

fuck you all

I'm claiming the next one, I hope you know that

[Aristophanes]

I do not like how BlueTrin came out of 10/11 pages with only null reads, with the most being leans. That doesn't sit well with me at all

I think he explained why pretty well, though I will maybe possibly eventually look at other D1s of his to see if he's always wishy washy like this.

But even with the amount of explanation he did, I'd expect something a bit more solid.

There were a lot of null with modifiers.
I took them as "light town" and "light scum" reads, which I make all the time in readslists.

Blue, can you confirm or deny that this is a proper marker of the strength of your differing null reads?

[Aristophanes]

I do not like how BlueTrin came out of 10/11 pages with only null reads, with the most being leans. That doesn't sit well with me at all

I think he explained why pretty well, though I will maybe possibly eventually look at other D1s of his to see if he's always wishy washy like this.

But even with the amount of explanation he did, I'd expect something a bit more solid.

There were a lot of null with modifiers.
I took them as "light town" and "light scum" reads, which I make all the time in readslists.

Blue, can you confirm or deny that this is a proper marker of the strength of your differing null reads?

Yeah,not scumreading them because of this.

Blue is so Green that he only has one other game on site, and it is an ongoing newbie game.
Blue, I would like you to hash out your reads a bit more though. I'm not saying to posarize them, as keep g flow and possibility in a readslist is hugely important, but maybe give some more solid stances.

[Aristophanes]

Actually, pre-reread,
VOTE: FA

Wagon vote on Ranger was crappy shit.
The stuff with Ami has been mentioned.
I saw their vote on Ranger coming, she just set it up to wait for a replacement by "not liking the replace out" until a new player was here, then "losing interest" In Ami when it was clearly lost a while ago.

This is good shit.

NinjaFlub!
Will read.

nope it wasn't

I...but...
Which line wasn't what!?!?

Dammit FA!
Why do ya gotta be vague with me as I go to bed??

[Aristophanes]

This FA wagon feelsl ike it came out of literally nowhere.

I've been watching her for a while.

That sounds creepier than expected...

well long ago I was calling scummy , creepy ...

My Ranger vote was completly expected by me. that slot wasn't fine in any matter. I was trying to pressure Amihan to see that will help him to start talking or not ... That was a failure I admit. That replace out seemed pretty forced and my only clue about a game that I wasn't invested in yet

Can you explain how it felt forced?
I don't see it at all.

[Aristophanes]

I can agree it's NAI, but in this case, not scummy.

May as well toss me an example if you have one though I guess.

(This was at the long quoted post, obviously)

[Aristophanes]

And the wagon mostly formed as/after he left actually.

[Aristophanes]

asdfadsf

Dammit!!!
I missed.

[Aristophanes]

Actually, pre-reread,
VOTE: FA

Wagon vote on Ranger was crappy shit.
The stuff with Ami has been mentioned.
I saw their vote on Ranger coming, she just set it up to wait for a replacement by "not liking the replace out" until a new player was here, then "losing interest" In Ami when it was clearly lost a while ago.

This is good shit.

NinjaFlub!
Will read.

nope it wasn't

I...but...
Which line wasn't what!?!?

Dammit FA!
Why do ya gotta be vague with me as I go to bed??

Becuase I just woke up

That wagon in last 6 hours of the day was a rush one. like you knew I'm in bed and you wanted to finish me off while I'm sleep

You all know my timeline and you all know That I'm fully capable of defending myself don't you?

I missed this post somehow.

Nice theory but the game went on hold and got an extension, so invalid.

[Aristophanes]

I voted Ranger at 11:30 when I was thinking we have only 6 hours to have a lynch

UNVOTE:

14 hours is a different matter now

Hmm...

I'll sleep on this.

Goodnight FA. It's aA almost 2am and I'm tired.

Have a great day though! I'll be back well before deadline.

Ninja'd
Okay, I'll read these posts too...

[Aristophanes]

Nice theory but the game went on hold and got an extension, so invalid.

I was out the whole day

I didn't posted one post in entire site that day

wanna check?

I believe you on that. No need to check. Or to be so defensive...
I will sleep on this for sure, but I don't like the combative reaction here.

[Aristophanes]

Why are you calling Jackal scummy for replacing out if we can see from his posts elsewhere on the site that it truly is because he won't have internet until March? Do you think he's lying?

and I was exhausted to check meta

That was weird , I thought were near the deadline I voted and went to sleep! simple as that

It was also a premeditated vote though, so meh.

[Aristophanes]

I believe you on that. No need to check. Or to be so defensive...
I will sleep on this for sure, but I don't like the combative reaction here.

You don't know me yet then

lol

I do to a degree I think.
But you like to come at people with stats and numbers and facts if available. When they aren't, you start with NAI stuff and actual combattiveness like this.

[Aristophanes]

Why are you calling Jackal scummy for replacing out if we can see from his posts elsewhere on the site that it truly is because he won't have internet until March? Do you think he's lying?

and I was exhausted to check meta

That was weird , I thought were near the deadline I voted and went to sleep! simple as that

It was also a premeditated vote though, so meh.

nah I was thinking about it

but heh!

so you wanted me to pushed no lynch? becuase that was my thinking to gain a no lynch or lynch the wifomy replace out so whats exactly our point?

I'll give you that you thought the end was near and voted a potential wagon.
But I still dislike your Ami stuff and this current method of defense when not even the prime wagon.

I disliked your posts from the beginning of the game, so my vote is cozy here now.

[Aristophanes]

I believe you on that. No need to check. Or to be so defensive...
I will sleep on this for sure, but I don't like the combative reaction here.

You don't know me yet then

lol

I do to a degree I think.
But you like to come at people with stats and numbers and facts if available. When they aren't, you start with NAI stuff and actual combattiveness like this.

If timeline won't let me yes. and I didn't check it last night after 18 hours teaching and running and arguing with cabs

Sounds crappy.
I do hope today is better!

What do you teach btw?

[Aristophanes]

Why are you calling Jackal scummy for replacing out if we can see from his posts elsewhere on the site that it truly is because he won't have internet until March? Do you think he's lying?

and I was exhausted to check meta

That was weird , I thought were near the deadline I voted and went to sleep! simple as that

It was also a premeditated vote though, so meh.

nah I was thinking about it

but heh!

so you wanted me to pushed no lynch? becuase that was my thinking to gain a no lynch or lynch the wifomy replace out so whats exactly our point?

I'll give you that you thought the end was near and voted a potential wagon.
But I still dislike your Ami stuff and this current method of defense when not even the prime wagon.

I disliked your posts from the beginning of the game, so my vote is cozy here now.

lol

so we have a shared understanding here I really hated my posts so far in this game

Hahahaha I guess so!

This quote wall is ridiculous but I can't be arsed to edit it out on my phone. Sorry!

[Aristophanes]

I believe you on that. No need to check. Or to be so defensive...
I will sleep on this for sure, but I don't like the combative reaction here.

You don't know me yet then

lol

I do to a degree I think.
But you like to come at people with stats and numbers and facts if available. When they aren't, you start with NAI stuff and actual combattiveness like this.

If timeline won't let me yes. and I didn't check it last night after 18 hours teaching and running and arguing with cabs

Sounds crappy.
I do hope today is better!

What do you teach btw?

University stuff, I'm a teaching assistanse for now . Algorithm designs , Discrete math and Theory of Automates ... I teached Java and Python as well.

Fancy shit!
I used to be a math guy, and then just gave up on it one day. Really bad at programming though.
Also, this explains your very Data driven approach to most games. Cool!

[Aristophanes]

Hahahaha I guess so!

This quote wall is ridiculous but I can't be arsed to edit it out on my phone. Sorry!

np

I will reread this game after having a breakfast.

But I assure you that my Ami vote was fro pressure becuase he wasted 7 pages with his mod vote drama and all he came up with was that shitty paranoia and my Jackle/Ranger vote was becuase I thought I have no time before deadline

U da best!

Okie dokie, all noted.
Do enjoy breakfast!
I'm going to bed.
Zzzzźzz

[Aristophanes]

Dammit! Missed again. You're good at that shit RC! XD

[Aristophanes]

I will just go ahead and claim

I'm princess peach becuase everybody apparently love me I'm lynch proof so go ahead and test it if you want ...

FA is lynchproof??

Goddammit RC! XD

[Aristophanes]

Also, all of this pictures and music make me so happy! =D

[Aristophanes]

Oh, and UNVOTE:

I guess this ain't a thing that can happen. Sorry FA!

Intent I guess, since I'd rather get a lynch in.

Lil, last words, thoughts, and reads?
Anything to claim?

I won't hammer until almost deadline, but I will be here to do it.

[Aristophanes]

Well fuck.

[Aristophanes]

Who is scummy Lil?
I'm at a doctors appt. Will reread and do something once out, but dammit!

[Aristophanes]

Blue is so noon though, and I like FB.

Thoughts on Xtoxm and Flub?

[Aristophanes]

Why do you believe me so easily?

Because lynching a claimed mason D1 is shit tier play at best.

[Aristophanes]

And it explains why you felt a bit odd. Masons are hard to be. Makes interactions weird.

[Aristophanes]

No, Fire Starter, lets make it a lynch.

Scumreads, now pls!

Ninja'd.
Okay.

More ninjas. Reading after appt.

[Aristophanes]

@Lil, I liked Flub's early posts but I haven't really paid him a lot of attention since.

Reading the current page.

[Aristophanes]

Iunno about this Ami.

I have a feeling we're only going to get a consensus on either Ami or Ranger though.

Willing to vote either if that's a wagon that must.

We are Not Lynching a Claimed Mason D1!

[Aristophanes]

Guys if you need my vote nudge me, I am at a team drink but will try to read if someone address me directly.

Blue,
Lilith claimed Mason, a conftown with another player who is still hidden from us.

Unvote that.

We need a new viable wagon to lynch scum within the next 45 minutes.
Any suggestions?

[Aristophanes]

Inb4 we try to lynch Lilith's partner...

[Aristophanes]

On a reread, flub is Meh.

That said, I just had a thought.
This would be an alright time to test FA's claim to eliminate wine later on.

[Aristophanes]

I'm okay with Ranger, I guess.

If you try to lynch my buddy I am going to rampage

Lol cool.
I can get behind this if we must.

Standing by and reading stuff.

[Aristophanes]

Inb4 we try to lynch Lilith's partner...

anyone claimed to be the other mason?!

I missed anything ?!

No, but we have entered quicklynch mode and it would be sad and ironic if we wagoned off of Lil and onto the other mason(s).
That's all.

[Aristophanes]

I was catching up in my other games first sorry.
VOTE: FA

So you're in the "lets test FA's claim" camp then?

[Aristophanes]

Muahahahahaah! Pagetop is mine!

Ninja'd
We can if people would like.

FA, you fine with that?

[Aristophanes]

asdf

k modkilling aristo

Wait...
NOOOoOoOoOo!!! XD

[Aristophanes]

Paper Mario <3
You are the best RC!!!

[Aristophanes]

I have something to confess

I read my role pm wrong

I might get lynched today , I'm just loved today. still princess peach and still town

pedit : no , I'm not

Oh..

Loved is when it takes one extra vote to lynch, yes?

[Aristophanes]

I'm always loved and lynch proof with a modifier as I already claimed

Gotcha.

I don't know what to do now. God dammit!

VOTE: Ranger for now.
Do we even have enough people to make a different wagon happen??

[Aristophanes]

Burn.

Dafuq is this even.

Wanna help secure a lynch or...?

[Aristophanes]

You were scumreading me for voting Ranger

Why is he more scummy than Amihan for you suddenly ?

He's not.
We need the numbers to lynch and we are 2 ahead on this slot already.

I didn't like Jackal's posts, I liked Ranger's. But I can compromise as the situation is dire.

[Aristophanes]

Like, it's you or Ranger as the votes stand atm because I am not lynching a claimed mason D1.

So take your pick.

[Aristophanes]

I hate to be threatened

I like to vote Ranger I want to know why your so ok with him atm

I'm not threatening, I'm merely stating the facts of the matter. I don't want to lynch you with that claim, but I do want a lynch.

Of my townreads, they are near the bottom. I liked their speedy catchup and their reads lists made a lot of sense to me as they went.

One sec for a quick Iso to see other posts.

[Aristophanes]

Posts read a little defensive, but they did come in to a wagon on themselves.

Overall nothing that sways me away from this being an okay compromise.

[Aristophanes]

I really just don't like the ranger slot atm.
The reads coming in and reading, I don't know how she got those reads.
Especially me, she has said before she has harder time reading me until later stages of the game when I put more effort.

She always does those readslists though, with no xplanations.

NAI

[Aristophanes]

Though if that is her stance on you it is weird, Fire.

Ninja'd
Yeah, I can agree then. Odd.

[Aristophanes]

Lil waiting to claim is fine. Not great, but oh well.

Ami I tohught was town for that because I doubt scum would be so adamant.
But it's also something that's a carryover from her homesite, so likely NAI, plus she thought it was role related.

Shit, I mean he. Would edit, but too late.

Otherwise, not much game related info and the push on you was based very limitedly, which I dislike somewhat.

[Aristophanes]

I'll go with either Amihan or Ranger seems its ranger becuase of votes

Pretty much where I'm at as well.

[Aristophanes]

BlueTrin, you said to address you directly, so

Hey BlueTrin
Read this and vote Ranger

Spoiler:

I hate using large font.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Ranger L1

The fact Amihan thought it was role related is the fact that triggering me.... But its obvious that there is no mechanic about voting mod. hmmm

Yeah, I find that really weird.
Like, how could it be misinterpreted so heavily??

But we won't know that until they die or the game ends...

[Aristophanes]

Holy shit, will someone, anyone, just please make all of this hustle not go to waste!!!!!

I'm stressing hard here!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Ranger

I HAVE DOUBLE VOTES!!!


I wish ;(

You're such a tease! Lmao

[Aristophanes]

We're nolynching after all this.

I am disappoint

[Aristophanes]

God dammit!

What a waste of a day yesterday!

I'm gonna be looking at that Lilith wagon from throughout the day and will find the scum on it.

[Aristophanes]

Ok.

VOTE: BlueTrin

Might still be open to lynching Ranger, but this is the direction I want to go in today.

Why is that, Ami?

[Aristophanes]

Why do you think it is?

For not showing up when they said they would?

[Aristophanes]

Why do you think it is?

For not showing up when they said they would?

And for not unvoting the god damned Mason!?

[Aristophanes]

Okay so I am in a neighborhood with Xtoxm and Frozen.
We were really thinking Lilith might have been scum for claiming late in the day like that.

Also thought Ranger was scum since we couldn't get that lynch at the end of the day.

I am not so sure about everything right now. I think my neighbors are town? At least I think FA is, I don't know for sure on Xtoxm.

Was this neighbourhood set up at gamestart or is this new as of last night?

(Were you neighbourized or is this a setup thing?)

[Aristophanes]

Was this neighbourhood set up at gamestart or is this new as of last night?

(Were you neighbourized or is this a setup thing?)

Xtoxm told us he had a 2-preshot game neighborize that he used on me and Frozen angel.
We had this during the pregame stages but didn't use it that much, and it was locked during the day. As it is now.

Interesting.

What would give you the idea a 2-shot pregame neighbourizer would be possible scum?
From his role or his actions in thread/in the neighbourhood?

[Aristophanes]

Interesting.

What would give you the idea a 2-shot pregame neighbourizer would be possible scum?
From his role or his actions in thread/in the neighbourhood?

I don't consider a neighborizer confirmed anything, though mods seem to tend to make it a town role on the site. his actions so far have made me skeptical of him, where as Frozen Angel seems more like a open book.

She doesn't seem to be manipulating and was kind of erratic in the neighborhood. I thought that was a town sign from her.

Cool, thanks a bunch Fire!

I'm gonna reread Xtoxm.

I don't know about a Neighbourhood and a Mason group both being town.
In fact, I'd say the chances of the neighbourizer being scum are quite likely.

[Aristophanes]

I don't know about a Neighbourhood and a Mason group both being town.
In fact, I'd say the chances of the neighbourizer being scum are quite likely.

When it's a targeted action, the only thing to question is the alignment of the targeter: Firebringer is still town, FA still town, so the only question is whether Xtoxm is town or not.

Indeed, thus my conversation with Fire and plans to look into Xtoxm.

[Aristophanes]

In fact, I'd say the chances of the neighbourizer being scum are quite likely.

this comment gives me hives

Care to explain why?

[Aristophanes]

you're trying to push that i'm scum based on my role

on top of that it's a role that's pretty much only ever given to town

I'm like 99% certain I have been in a game with a scum neighbourizer before.

And I'm using it as a jump off point, not pushing you as scum based on it solely.
In fact, I have yet to make a scum case on you.

And I'm looking at it from a balance standpoint as well.

It, to me, makes sense as a somewhat mason counter. As in, Scum gets their own group of people who they can chat with in private, like the masons.
So they can push their agenda a little easier and maybe garner a townread and towncred from it.

This is all theory, but I don't think it's unlikely by any means.

[Aristophanes]

I think that final vote would have magically materialised from somewhere had Ranger been town, so i'm going with this.

VOTE: Ranger

not necessarily.
Though I'm not against this.

[Aristophanes]

I don't like aristos fence sitting.

I'm just tired. Probably won't be at this much longer tonight and I have to do more researching before I can make any hard stances after the mess that was the end of last phase.

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, no kidding. I was convinced going into N1 that lilith was scum with [REDACTED - probably the second mason], pulling the same gambit from Blitz 1: she claimed without her mason buddy also claiming, with no actual indication that she was a mason.

You will never see that shitshow of a game happen again

Now I'm intrigued

[Aristophanes]

You said you were unlynchable

Wait disregard that

It's late at night

I have also missed something

Just reread Frozen at the end of day scramble. It will make a lot more sense.

[Aristophanes]

I could write a bunch of theory mumbo jumbo, but I honestly doubt this is a town neighbourizer.

I'm going to ISO him in a bit and will be back with that soon, but my setup spec is telling me this is likely to be a scum role.

[Aristophanes]

I blame my cold, but I have no motivation today for this.

However, I read Xtox's Iso and he seems to go the non-confrontational route with most of his posts.

"Vote: player 1."
"Oh, I like that answer. Unvote Player 1."
"Vote Player 2"
"Oh, that's okay too. Unvote Player 2"

Etc.

No sorting. No hard reads. Just a surface like or dislike of recent posts.

VOTE: Xtoxm

[Aristophanes]

So yeah, Blue is town.

[Aristophanes]

Not here for long but please explain? I didn't see much reason there other than efforr and I don't think that means town in this case.

Because this amount of effort from Noobscum is rarely seen, I like his analysis, and I think he is coming at the game from a town perspective.

Did you not get town inclinations from his posts?

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: fire starter

That vote on fragger is horrible.

Why the vote on Fire Starter?

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Heat

You slipped this one in there pretty well, but what was the reasoning for placing your vote at that time?

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: fire starter

That vote on fragger is horrible.

I disliked his vote on firebringer. So I voted him. You disliked that I disliked his vote so you voted me. Should I now vote you because I dislike you voting me for voting him?

Voteception

[Aristophanes]

Just an FYI Blue, when putting something in a spoiler (like you tried above) if you use the "spoiler=" tag instead of the "spoiler" tag then instead of getting

this

you will get

Spoiler:

this.

[Aristophanes]

The thing is that he hasn't sounded defensive in his posts, so I don't think that's necessarily something that needs consideration.

[Aristophanes]

And that is not scum behavior.

It's not?

The thing is that he hasn't sounded defensive in his posts, so I don't think that's necessarily something that needs consideration.

he has called four people scum.
They were all on his wagon.

If thats not defensive/reactionary behavior, I don't know what is.

OMGUS or reactionary or defensive. I guess it depends how you look at it. The thing is, though these all are very similar in definition, the implied motivations are different.

I don't see defensiveness. Maybe a bit more reactionary in his reads, but I expect that to a degree from replacements since they are, by nature, going to react first.

[Aristophanes]

Really think we should just lynch Fragger.

I'm rather okay with that prospect

[Aristophanes]

I'm having fun but will try to rein it in and post here in a few hours. Later!

Do have fun!

Happy Birthday!

[Aristophanes]

THERE"S A HOOD?

Apparently I need to reread. Jesus.

[Aristophanes]

Anyone read what I wrote?!

JC

I read it, I liked it, my vote stands.

I'll read the posts after this when my phone stops shitting the bed.

[Aristophanes]

lol. FB is definitely scum partners with frag. Trying wayyyyyy to hard to not get his partner lynched. How many scum are in this game?

lol, my vote is still on him.
I am just questioning the logic of FA here, who I don't believe is on this wagon for the right reasons.

#CheckYourFacts

what are the right reasons?!

I mentioned 10 reaons to add reasons to this wagon.

Xtoxm basically didn't done anything. Frag posts were completly alarming . His scum pool is whoever suspicious of him. His posts in neighbourhood and the reasons I mentioned are completly valid. This need to go

I like this and FA.

Whoever wants to hammer can.

[Aristophanes]

So, uh...11 hours left.

Not trrying to rush things.
But is someone gonna make sure we get a hammer before that deadline this time?

I'm done with today otherwise.

[Aristophanes]

I am ready for someone to hammer Frag

[Aristophanes]

Called into work today, but I'll be on at first chance.

No clue when that will be.

Sorry Frag

[Aristophanes]

We are in a likely Mylo with 8 people left?
this sucks ass.

I still don't think it's worth a NoLynch though.

Why do you, FireStarter?

[Aristophanes]

asdf

[Aristophanes]

Why do you, FireStarter?

Unless someone has a guilty, it's statistically better to no lynch. I've been wrong every step of the way this game and I would rather have better odds since I'm doing so poorly.

I just don't think now is the time.
We can find scum today. If we don't we are giving them a chance to hide better and to call the shots.
There are 3 of them, and they could instahammer with one wrong move.
At least if we wait until a 4:2 or 3:1 ratio we have both more reads, a scum flip, and a better chance of wading through the wine they give us via their free kill.

I thinm we need to hit scum today and reevaluate tomorrow rather than nolynching today.

[Aristophanes]

Unless someone has a guilty

VOTE: Aristophanes

Lol wut?

[Aristophanes]

if we lynch town we definitely loose. I need a reread.

definitely?
Really?

[Aristophanes]

There are 3 of them

Confirmed slip. Odds are there are 3, but you're saying that as a fact. Also, I wanted to see your response to my No Lynch.

I am a Flavor Cop. Night 1 I checked FA and confirmed them as Princess Peach. I didn't believe the claim and we didn't get to test it. Last night I checked Aristophanes and got the result of Bob-omb.

I realize that everyone may be hesitant in mylo or lylo or whatever this is, but I

basically

have a guilty.

VOTE: Aristophanes

Pedit:

You too?

...how is this a fucking guilty? Wtf?

[Aristophanes]

Also, I'm speaking as an assumption. Sorry for not saying "I think there are 3 scum."

Though, by assuming this is mylo, you also are saying there are 3 scum.
How is that any fucking different?

This is actually so dumb.

[Aristophanes]

Also I knew Flubber was the Mason (I was going to make the argument yesterday that I could have killed him over Night 1 if I was scum, but it would've probably been anti-town) but it looks like scum did too...

Prolly scum.

[Aristophanes]

Weird that there were two guilties for the same person in one night lol.

Ami, how did you know flubber was a mason?

Please.
How the hell is your flavour cop giving you this guilty?
Why am I scum from my role? (Which I will confirm is correct.)

Ami, what the fuck I'd your guilty on me?
Claim it now, you lying scum!

[Aristophanes]

Waaaait, he said Bob-omb?

I should read better.

That is a lie and he is scum. Both are and are trying a quick wagon.

Fucking...
My bad.
Thanks for pointing that out FA.

[Aristophanes]

I'll give mister Firestarter here a chance to tell the truth, even though he is lying fucking scum.

How skeevy!

[Aristophanes]

you have 10 seconds!

Okay, gimme a sec, on mobile.

I wanted FS to retry first.

[Aristophanes]

But gimme a sec.

Confirm you want this claim and I'll give it, but I'd rather hear from FS again first.

[Aristophanes]

or asking mod a fake claim o.O

I'd have done that a while ago if I was gonna.

[Aristophanes]

Mother fucking Bombette!

My love of Paper Mario (especially 64) is great!

FS made a scum claim on me so close it's believable and all I read was "bomb" and went, "yup!"

I'm A fucking suicide bomber.
Once, at night, I can blow my load in someone's face and make them go down

on

with me!

Ninja'd.
Which makes this take longer.

[Aristophanes]

Guys, I am not sure I am good at this game, got killed at N1 in my previous game and I thought Xtoxm was scum.

Do you guys get better with experience ?

I've been at it for 3 years.
Yes, much better. But I also thought he was scum.
And look at me right now.

There is always more to learn.

[Aristophanes]

I just said night use.
Thanks for reading.

And I also want to hear Ami's supposed scumfirmation on me.

I was trying to get the claim out for you. That's why!

VOTE: Firestarter

[Aristophanes]

sorry I'm on phone too *shy, red face*

All good yo!
Sorry for a heated answer.

Will post when I can. Just started a work shift

[Aristophanes]

If Aristo was town, scum would have hammered by now.

Unless Frozen Angel and Firestarter are scum ?

Unless they're

both

scum, which is extremely unlikely.

We need a quick hammer though before Aristo bombs.

Or maybe you and FS are scummates both claiming guilties and fear mongering.

I explode, by choice, at night.

You are both claiming guilties on me.

Ami, claim your guilty.

[Aristophanes]

Inb4 Ami is asking for a fakeclaim.

[Aristophanes]

It's mylo.
I'm being cautious.
So sue me!

[Aristophanes]

from your perspective he was obviously scum. being cautious is meaningless about that.

I was still sorting the claim he'd made.
This line of argument is going to go nowhere.

I voted once I had the facts. I was keeping up with the posts and wanted to clarify things first.

Should I have voted when I claimed differently from what he did, probably.

Does that change anything? Not that I can tell.

Why, as scum, would I have not voted right then?

[Aristophanes]

2 claimed guilty is stressing you know ?

Yes. 2 fake guilties have me stressing because this push is scummy and I don't want to lose!

[Aristophanes]

2 claimed guilty is stressing you know ?

Yes. 2 fake guilties have me stressing because this push is scummy and I don't want to lose!

Thats why I'm not voting you right now. make the best case you can make on them and explain all the blind spots or your gonna die.

Will do.
Thanks!

[Aristophanes]

Where did this aristophanes wagon come from?
I don't like it.

Fire, please listen to me.
For my sake, and the goodness of the town, read the posts since the flip.
Tell me what you think of the double guilties.
Tell me what you think of my counterclaim.
Tell me what you think of FA's voting and unvoting.

We need you to do this.

Thanks in advance my friend!

[Aristophanes]

My vote was for pressuring you

My unvote was to review this today.

if you don't want me to work on it I can vote you again

and why your directly talking to Fire? I don't like it

Chill yo!

I am asking him directly as he hasn't read the phase yet, clearly, and needs to do so.

I know why you voted and unvoted, and I appreciate it. I asked not to get a wagon going on you, but as a point to get Fire reading and analysing.

[Aristophanes]

So...from my understanding...double-guilty on Aristophanes, yes?

I'm

pretty

sure that makes him the right lynch.

Unless this is the hardest Mylo push I've ever seen (which it is).

I will do this today, but I want to make sure that once Ami comes in with the supposed guilty, we still refrain from a hammer until I have said my bit.

Thanks in advance!

[Aristophanes]

I refuse to claim my role at this point, or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

But I will point out that me bringing this up prior to any indication of the other guilty proves this isn't just something affected by that. At this moment, the other guilty has already been claimed. Having me fullclaim is extremely anti-town as it gives scum more information on how to align their kill and any actions they might have.

In short this one guilty is strong enough: flavor is indicative of alignment, and Bob-omb is a Mario enemy. My role and all other town roles I've seen are not.

I mean, I want a claim from you, so you don't slink away without providing anything having faked the guilty on me.

However, for now, I will settle for FA's question.
Ami, how strong is your "guilty" on me?
100%? 80%? 35%?

[Aristophanes]

Wow those votecounts!

So prompt!

said no one ever.

You've done a fine job snagging Pagetop at least! That's the important part!

[Aristophanes]

FA, just a point on your last post, FS as scum would know whether Bob-omb were in play or not because flavour is indicative of alignment, per RC.

Therefore, aas.scum, he'd know there was no Bob-omb on his team.

Holy ninjas...

[Aristophanes]

Okay, this shit is stupid.

Let's nolynch today, I'll blow up FS at night, and when it is revealed that I am town and FS is scum, you can all convene in the day and lynch Ami for this noncommittal shit.

How's that for a goddammit plan?

Ninja'd, this directly follows my last post.
I hate that I type so slowly on my phone

[Aristophanes]

that was toward Amihan not you Aris

yes I know Aris

You had me worried for a sec there Frozen!

[Aristophanes]

I'm not satisfying my curiosity

I siriously beleive this might be preplanned or something so clarify.

FORGET FIRE GUILTY. how strong is yours ?

I refuse to claim my role at this point,

or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

And me revealing the "strength" of my guilty will not help you determine if this was pre-planned.

Instead, look at the posts around where we both voted Aristo. There would be no reason for me to softclaim a guilty, then him to post a full explanation of his guilty before I could clarify. If we were scum, these actions would chain us together unnecessarily, when instead we could have just planned for Fire to claim the incriminating flavor cop action so that if he was lynched as scum, it wouldn't immediately point to me being a partner.

This is exactly why you would do it!!!
Mylo so all you need is to secure a mislynch!
And making this extra wine let's you team up while defending it.

[Aristophanes]

Okay, this shit is stupid.

Let's nolynch today, I'll blow up FS at night, and when it is revealed that I am town and FS is scum, you can all convene in the day and lynch Ami for this noncommittal shit.

How's that for a goddammit plan?

this plan might work

But I won't loose a town flavor cop for no reason. Amihan can save this shit and she don't do any shit...

Don't worry, we won't lose a town flavour cop.

[Aristophanes]

Fucking Christ. I will post in a bit. This is bullshit.

Your guilty is bullshit! But sure, come the fuck at me!

[Aristophanes]

Let's nolynch today, I'll blow up FS at night, and when it is revealed that I am town and FS is scum, you can all convene in the day and lynch Ami for this noncommittal shit.

LOL. This is the most scummy thing ever. If you're scum, blowing something up along with a scumkill will bring us into LYLO, and if you don't blow something up a scumkill brings us to LYLO with this same discussion to take place.

No. We are lynching you today.

FA being either stubborn town who won't take a second to think it through, or your scumpartner, doesn't change that.

Flail away.

[Aristophanes]

I fucking can't handle this anymore

It's okay FA, we'll get this sorted.

[Aristophanes]

No. Only lynching Aristophanes. I'm not open to any other option right now.

If Ami is town lynching her is bad. If she is scum, them she's bussing her partner. Ergo, the only 100% scum Lynch today is Aristophanes

Or, third option, you and she are in kahoots!

So I advocate for your lynch.

Or, fourth option, Nolynch, as I suggested.

[Aristophanes]

To diffuse any possibility of us both being scum pulling off an elaborate plan, do you see anyone else claiming? We are the PRs, and probably the most powerful. Do you guys think Ami and I are partners after everything that has happened? No way. I don't know Ami's alignment, but I have a guilty and that's what we need to focus on.

Also, FA, why does one of me and Ari have to be scum? I don't follow.

Pedit: perfect timing again.

One of us is scum because you say I'm Bob-omb and I say I'm Bombette.

If you are scum Flavour Cop, you got my role and spun it to something believable yet scummy.

If I am scum, I am fakeclaiming.

But that we disagree is the issue.


And nice job pushing yourself as "the for sure PRs" even though Ami is being cryptic and you are lying.
That's actually a really good move to sway people towards supporting your scummy self!

[Aristophanes]

FS couldn't have targeted FA N1. I jail kept her

Oh my god you are a hero <3

[Aristophanes]

FS couldn't have targeted FA N1. I jail kept her

Jailkeep doesn't stop someone from being targeted.

Oh my god yes it fucking does!!!!!

You're thinking of roleblocker

[Aristophanes]

FS couldn't have targeted FA N1. I jail kept her

Jailkeep doesn't stop someone from being targeted.

Oh my god yes it fucking does!!!!!

You're thinking of roleblocker

No, Jailkeeper only protects and roleblocks a player.

The role that prevents a role from being targeted is Rolestopper.

Now you're latching onto anything you can to stay alive: Heat's misunderstanding, trying to go for a no lynch, and so on... lol.

Actually no.
Role stopper stops someone from being targeted.
Roleblocker stops someone from using their power.
Jailkeeper protects from kills, stops power usage, and in every case I've seen, stops the player from being targeted in general.

[Aristophanes]

Let's wait on Heat and see.
He said he has an explanation.

I hope lunch is nice, Heat!

[Aristophanes]

I literally just linked the wiki for how Jailkeeper is used here: "Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night. This variant is also known as Alien." That's a rare variant, not actually a jailkeeper.

Mod, what does a jailkeeper do?

Where the hell did you get "rare" from!?

And it's been the variant I've always seen so no way it's rare!

And that question is bad.

RC, would you call the "alien" variant of a Jailkeeper a "Jailkeeper" when giving roles out?

That's a better question.
Let heat fund out what his role does, as the mod is unlikely to answer it in the thread.
(Heat, please clarify with the mod!)

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler: Ami's quoting from Sweet Dreams

Just did a quick search and in this Normal game, Aristo played with a Jailkeeper, was already informed that what he thought a Jailkeeper did was just a variant that was uncommon here:

Subject: Mini 1652: Sweet Dreams - Game Over!

Makes me think DK may have been a jailer who can kill their target at the end of the night, jailed Lapsa, and decided to kill him, getting shot by scum himself. I have seen this variant quite a few times.

No.

Informed is not a normal role, as far as I know. Thus I am the non-normal role. mini games can only have up to one non-normal role.

Okie dokie. Learning things as we go.

Subject: Mini 1652: Sweet Dreams - Game Over!

DK, you were a jailkeeper who could kill one of his jailed people, yes?

I'm mostly asking because I totally called that and was told it just simply couldn't be ( by PK I think).

Also, I would have continued to tunnel you into the ground had you lived. I'm sad we lost the PR but it simplifie D2 a lot and got us going on the right track.

No, a jailkeeper cannot kill.
Don't worry, "I would have continued to tunnel you into the ground", too.

Subject: Mini 1652: Sweet Dreams - Game Over!

DK, you were a jailkeeper who could kill one of his jailed people, yes?

I'm mostly asking because I totally called that and was told it just simply couldn't be ( by PK I think).

Also, I would have continued to tunnel you into the ground had you lived. I'm sad we lost the PR but it simplifie D2 a lot and got us going on the right track.

That variant, as far as I know, is only on sc2mafia.

This is all about a k Jailer who can kill, not one who blocks the target from being targeted.

Nice try though!

[Aristophanes]

I did a quick search of RadiantCowbells' games he's modded, and while he hasn't had a Jailkeeper in one of them, he's usually stuck to the normal versions of roles, and has played with the normal version of jailkeeper. There is no precedent for RadiantCowbells deciding to use a role variant like that rather than a normal role with potential modifiers.

How about we let the actual JK or the Mod tell us.

This is pathetic.

[Aristophanes]

I did a quick search of RadiantCowbells' games he's modded, and while he hasn't had a Jailkeeper in one of them, he's usually stuck to the normal versions of roles, and has played with the normal version of jailkeeper. There is no precedent for RadiantCowbells deciding to use a role variant like that rather than a normal role with potential modifiers.

How about we let the actual JK or the Mod tell us.

This is pathetic.

Translation: "Stop using logic, it's incriminating me! Everybody listen to Heat who will either still be confused or be scum, or the mod who clearly won't confirm anything!"

Lolnope
More like "We don't know and us theorizing about it is getting us nowhere.
You are making judgement leaps in order to push your point, and it is cluttering the thread, creating wine, and getting us nowhere.
Let's stop and see what happens after Heat has clarified his rol Ew and returned from lunch instead."

[Aristophanes]

If you jail kept me I could have been investigated. I wasn't commuted or anything *facepalm*

Heat that claim was so shit. you better have a good explanation.

Y'all are whack

My role says I commute the target.

See, this is what I'm sayin'!

Let Heat clarify!

Now the god damned timing created more wine for you all!

Heat, vote FS the liar with me now, please

[Aristophanes]

I know that I and FA at least are town, and thus Aristo not being lynched in MYLO yet means Aristo is scum.

If you jail kept me I could have been investigated. I wasn't commuted or anything *facepalm*

Heat that claim was so shit. you better have a good explanation.

Y'all are whack

My role says I commute the target.

See, this is what I'm sayin'!

Let Heat clarify!

Now the god damned timing created more wine for you all!

Heat, vote FS the liar with me now, please

This just reeks of smug scum...

Why no comment about you being wrong?
Or on FS having lied about his results on FA?

Just continue ScumDeathTunneling me though.
Your case is falling apart if it's based solely on FS' fakes guilty!

[Aristophanes]

I know that I and FA at least are town, and thus Aristo not being lynched in MYLO yet means Aristo is scum.

how do you know that if you didn't target me?

do you have any kind of information about heat becuase you targeted him n1?

Because whether FS is town or scum, he only has reason to clear you if you're town. Scum clearing another scum would be too risky.

Ohey, actual reasonible reasoning from thus slit for the first time since....?

If only I targeted FA night 1... I almost did but then chose lilith

Targeted a dead girl N1. How convenient.

[Aristophanes]

Amihan, claim your guilty on ari

[Aristophanes]

Amihan, claim your guilty on ari

No.

Then you are scum with no case.

Man this game is solving itself!

[Aristophanes]

Okay, so either Heat and I are scum or Ami and FS are scum.

Let me blow FS up tonight and you'll have your answer.


However, that shouldn't be necessary since FS has ALREADY LIED ABOUT HIS RESULTS!!! But I can see why this is in doubt if you don't think Heat is town.

So this is still a damned good option.

[Aristophanes]

Amihan, claim your guilty on ari

No.

Then you are scum with no case.

Man this game is solving itself!

Again, you're discrediting me. I've already outlined why Fire's guilty and your extremely cautious nature interacting with his initial push, plus convenient claim around it, indicate you being scum on their own without my result needing to be revealed.

No.
I am asking you to claim or to vote FS scum.

Simple as this.

[Aristophanes]

let me sum this up

- FS states he knows I'm Peach and he knows Ari is bob-omb
- Amihan claims visiting lilith and having a guilty on Aristo
- Aristo claims to be a suicide bomber and bombine
- Heat says she jail kept and commuted me in night 1 so FS is lying about knowing I'm Peach

Gold Star!

[Aristophanes]

(Though, Bombette**
Not that it matters. I understood.)

[Aristophanes]

I suggest a mass claim.

pedit : yeah I'm tired and drunk ....

I was gonna suggest the same, but wasn't sure it was ideal.
I see no solving this otherwise though, with such strong voices afoot.

(Also I wish I were drunk...but that's not a good idea when going into work.)

[Aristophanes]

Leaves us Firebringer, BlueTrin, Ranger, and Amihan.

Heat, hold off on the other jail target reveal until the end.

FA, you have yet to full claim as well technically I believe.

[Aristophanes]

FA, you have yet to full claim as well technically I believe.

I'm Princess Peach a beloved Princess. I don't have any night actions. I'm lynch proof with a modifier and that I won't claim becuase its definitely irrelevant.

Wait... :S

Yeah, this is town.
I had missed part of that originally.

Like, no doubt.
(Not that I

was

doubting it, but still)

[Aristophanes]

Did Aristophanes claim a different flavor? I probably missed it

I claimed Bombette.

FS says I am Bob-omb.

[Aristophanes]

If you want to do a no lynch, we might as well test FA unlynchabilite: it is free to do it

PH yeah, and get rid of what might be a 1-shot so she can be on the table as a lylo lynch.

That's a great idea! [/sarcasm]

[Aristophanes]

That is so scummy.

So is lying about an investigation, scum!

[Aristophanes]

Also,i I agree with everything Flub has said.

[Aristophanes]

If you want to do a no lynch, we might as well test FA unlynchabilite: it is free to do it

PH yeah, and get rid of what might be a 1-shot so she can be on the table as a lylo lynch.

That's a great idea! [/sarcasm]

First of all, she didn't mention it being one shot.

Secondly why would we vote her twice ?

Third, you start to be a bit annoying, check your tone.

No. No, but she hinted at modifiers.

2. I don't know, but it then becomes possible.

3. Sorry. I am fighting fake-ass claims and am merely being forceful with my words. It is not something I do often, so my tone is probably a little less refined than some others'. I'll work on it.

I'm getting pissed at you. And this fucking town.

Pedit- to Aristophanes

You weren't expecting this much actual thought and questioning from town when you set up this doible-guilty plan, we're you!

[Aristophanes]

Not talking to you anymore

Okay

I'll be good until the mass claim is done I guess.

[Aristophanes]

Can flubber pick the order of massclaim or are we gonna popcorn it

I'm good with either.
Go ahead Flub, you have my support!