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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 69, I Am Innocent wrote:You are aware I'm voting BBT right?


Only just noticed.

I'm wracking my head right now wondering just what kind of pro-town motive can there be to BBT 'claiming scum' this early in the game. I'm not putting him at L-1 yet though, in case a new player comes in and random hammers. We need more input.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:40 pm

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Not feeling good about BBT but the fact that his wagon moved so fast worries me. There must be scum on that wagon for it to progress as fast as it did.

I need to sleep as well.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:46 pm

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Kirroha is being absolute nonsense right now.

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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:47 pm

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In post 76, kirroha wrote:Not feeling good about BBT but the fact that his wagon moved so fast worries me. There must be scum on that wagon for it to progress as fast as it did.

I need to sleep as well.

I would agree with you, infact I did on #73, but it turns out the first two votes (Raskol and implosion) were RVS votes :/
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:48 pm

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This is RVS.

There's no issues with the speed of the wagon.

I think Kirroha's excessive concern here is likely scum-indicative,
possibly
because they are buddies.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:49 pm

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This is RVS.

There's no issues with the speed of the wagon.

I think Kirroha's excessive concern here is likely scum-indicative,
possibly
because they are buddies.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:50 pm

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Man, everyone is double-posting the exact same message today. Did I miss a memo or something?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:51 pm

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Man, everyone is double-posting the exact same message today. Did I miss a memo or something?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:59 pm

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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:10 pm

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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:13 pm

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kirroha should be town. I think BBT is bad and you should keep your vote on him senpai.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:16 pm

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why should kirroha be town?

fill me in please kōhai
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:24 pm

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She's talkative in a way that isn't cautious about the kind of stuff she posts. She seems cautious about people pushing too hard in RVS, but that's a different thing all together, and she usually is from what I can briefly see from her last game (which is in 2014?) http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=39545 Sorry I can't phrase it properly, not the best with English, but that gives me a strong "gut" feeling that kirroha is town, at least more than the rest of the people who posted so far.

I agree with her regarding BBT's policy lynch message. Also there is no benefit to town in him saying "I am scum." To say that is very anti-town because it creates confusion and not much else. But then again, scum won't want to draw attention to themself either... So I will try to look at BBT's meta to see if it is something he normally does as a joke or something.

Senpai, if you think kirroha is BBT's buddy, why would you take your vote off BBT (who you think is scum)? Just wondering.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:27 pm

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because I think that her thought process is faked and I'm not sure what her motivation for faking it is exactly so I'm not assuming BBT is scum for it.

I disagree with your point about cautiousness being townie as well.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:27 pm

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about not showing cautiousness being*
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:28 pm

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Fake? What does it mean?
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:32 pm

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I don't think that she's legitimately this concerned, as town, of the BBT wagon.

aka, the posts where she says that she is are faked.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:39 pm

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I don't think she is that concerned. She just doesn't want to put him at L-1.

Scum however would want to lynch him quickly, if he is town. If kirroha had voted at that point she'd actually get less attention than not voting, since a bunch of people were already voting him anyway. So if what you are saying is true, kirroha is only likely to be scum if BBT is scum, and is scared that he might be getting lynched.

Maybe I am just not feeling it, because I know from general feeling that kirroha is tentative as town especially early on.

I suspect tojam2 a little bit because I could have sworn I saw him online earlier but he didn't post, and that was after BBT questioned him about voting himself. I hope he will answer soon.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:45 pm

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Hello ^__^ 92 posts geez
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:52 pm

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Vote Count 1.3

BlueBloodedToffee
(4)
: Raskolnikov, implosion, Ninomasaki, I Am Innocent
(L-3)

tojam2
(2)
: tojam2
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BlueBloodedToffee
(L-5)

Ninomasaki
(1)
: ShortcutButton
(L-6)

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: kirroha
(L-6)

kirroha
(1)
: RadiantCowbells
(L-6)

With 13 player alive, majority is 7 today.


I think its right this time ;-;
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:52 pm

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In post 68, kirroha wrote:
Do you think BBT is scum?


I do not think I am experienced enough to tell if something is a 'tell' yet but I think it is suspicious, because I can see what scum might benefit from suggesting a possible policy lynch on a weak player a few posts into the game. Unless I have more information to go off on I find BBT the most suspicious one right now.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:19 pm

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BBT and kirroha are both pretty good votes.

kirroha's is disconcerting. I agree with RC in that the way she expressed concern over the wagon is likely scum-indicative, but it's dependent on how kirroha follows up that concern as well. Given her claim that there are likely scum on the BBT wagon given how fast it popped up, I'm curious to see what names she specifically indicts.

I actually really don't like BBT's opening, I was posting from class earlier and thought it was kinda weird but thinking more about it I really don't like characterizing tojam's selfvote as awful. It was pretty neutral-looking to me. I'm not sure how you can connect that selfvote to an increased likelihood of being scum (unless by awful he meant that it was bad play in which case I'm not sure why he was calling for more votes).

And @iai yeah I'm already on the wagon.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 61, I Am Innocent wrote:Implosion u seeing scum anywhere else? I think I've found one.


This wasn't in reference to BBT implosion.

Town points to RC and implosion tho they picked up on the right player tho.


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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:31 pm

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ah.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:32 pm

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hrm.

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