Mini 1762: Game Over

[Killthestory]

bro lol what a naked vote bro get off my fucking back bro holy shit bro you suck omg bro.

[Syndesis]

???

[Killthestory]

bro just read bro

[TheCow]

Vote Count 1.15

TaishoGal

(6)

: kirroham, NinoMasaki, Killthestory, BlueBloodedToffee, tojam2, I Am Innocent

(L-1)

BlueBloodedToffee

(3)

: TaishoGal, RadiantCowbells, Raskolnikov

(L-4)

Tojam2

(1)

: implosion

(L-6)

Rubixxx

(1)

: ink

(L-6)

Killthestory

(1)

: Syndesis

(L-6)

Not Voting

(1)

: Rubixxx

With 13 players alive, majority is 7 today.

(expired on 2016-02-22 15:30:00)

[I Am Innocent]

unvote taishagal
Vote kill

No longer just a naked vote (and a good counterwagon to the lead)

I'm fine with either

[tojam2]

It's so tempting to vote someone else, but I don't feel any vote is compelling,

Anyone interested in an emergency replacement for TaishoGal?

[I Am Innocent]

We need two wagons, so unless you were to move to BBT or kill, you should stay put. Force replace ain't going to happen.

Kill dropped a scum tell. He is also playing very safe. Getting a wagon on him is near impossible which also gives me cause for concern.

But the biggest tell is the white knighting. Read the thread and see how many people suspected ink or myself of being scum:

Before we started attacking kill
And after we pushed for him

It is actually quite dramatic the difference.

Pretty sure he is scum. RC and implosion know my track record as town and since they both were among those white knighting kill I'll strongly suggest one of them is scum if kill flips as well. The fact neither are even listening to me causes me great concern too.

With that said tgal is acting scummy too. Why she hasn't replaced out or claimed is beyond me. She is not a bad 2nd choice.

I don't think BBT is scum.

[I Am Innocent]

Not confident in BBT because his wagon reached l-2 by page 2. Admittedly he did joke claim scum but it's just that - a joke.

Just because of how quick a wagon hits doesn't mean it should be taken much less seriously or even taken more seriously. It's just simply a wagon. I'm not sure why you used this to have a sense of direction regarding BBT, but I don't feel it's appropriate.

Kirroha/BBT are my primary scumreads atm.

On the basis that I asked questions about BBT? I'm feeling uncomfortable about his suggestion of Nino as a possible policy lynch, so I would be more than happy to vote him if he wasn't already at L-2. I'm curious as to whether Nino considers the same suggestion a scumtell, because that would reaffirm what I'm feeling from his post (i.e. trying to get a soft wagon started on Nino on the basis of 'policy'). Nino had 2 votes on her at that point, so I'm not buying BBT's implied "a wagon isn't going to start on you anyway" excuse.

Can't get much of a read on anyone else yet. I like Nino, though.

You like Nino? For what, yelling about how she's not an alt and not actually contributing thus far? And then the fact that you have no scumreads currently when there's plenty to pick apart?
VOTE: Kirroha

Not feeling good about BBT but the fact that his wagon moved so fast worries me. There must be scum on that wagon for it to progress as fast as it did.

I need to sleep as well.

Just because of how quick a wagon hits doesn't mean it should be taken much less seriously or even taken more seriously. It's just simply a wagon. I'm not sure why you used this to have a sense of direction regarding BBT, but I don't feel it's appropriate.

kirroha should be town. I think BBT is bad and you should keep your vote on him senpai.

wtf?

She's talkative in a way that isn't cautious about the kind of stuff she posts. She seems cautious about people pushing too hard in RVS, but that's a different thing all together, and she usually is from what I can briefly see from her last game (which is in 2014?) http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=39545 Sorry I can't phrase it properly, not the best with English, but that gives me a strong "gut" feeling that kirroha is town, at least more than the rest of the people who posted so far.

I agree with her regarding BBT's policy lynch message. Also there is no benefit to town in him saying "I am scum." To say that is very anti-town because it creates confusion and not much else. But then again, scum won't want to draw attention to themself either... So I will try to look at BBT's meta to see if it is something he normally does as a joke or something.

Senpai, if you think kirroha is BBT's buddy, why would you take your vote off BBT (who you think is scum)? Just wondering.

What the fuck? 'She's cautious, but she isn't cautious.' Ok? I mean, like, if you're not confident in RVS pushes you should speak up and truly push your agenda, and I haven't seen Kirroha to be pushing anything as of recently because as you said she's

cautious.

In my mind, scum is the only one to be cautious due to the fact that pushing someone for the right reasons should make you confident, not the opposite. That is, unless you're trying to play a dangerous game of forcing a mislynch from the backround.

Thanks for repeating shit already said.

Votes don't matter when it comes to opinions?

Gut read Nino scum.

I am not getting the kirroha wagon. /: Am I scum as well for expressing concern over her getting 2 votes? That seems to be the justification and it is feeble.

I am Innocent is suspicious for jumping on kirroha after that random vote without explanation on BBT earlier. Also I would rather not slacken the BBT wagon before BBT gets back. We need answers from him.

Sorry if I am just being slow, but I am really not seeing this. And I am kind of scumreading Innocent now. "Right player"? "Found scum"? You seem way too certain and you hardly posted any reasoning, only jumping aboard what other people have posted which are relatively unconvincing.

You too Innocent, and same question. Why jump from BBT to kirroha? I can't think of any reason for scum to express concern over a BBT lynch unless BBT is also scum. And if you think BBT is also scum, then you will keep voting BBT, because it is better to get the more aggressive scum lynched.

Nope, I don't find Innocent scummy because you don't need a reason to supply a vote, you need a reason to supply a lynch. This is still somewhat RVS, and I'm damn sure that plenty of others have placed down no reason votes. Why does Innocent strike you off when it's a common thing, especially with the use of gutreads on this site?

I'll post more in a second, but I need to take some medicine

Oh yeah this was his second post, 13 mins after his first, and yet he didn't hesitate to hop on the leading wagon.

Need to verify but I believe this was an L-1 vote.

Not the scum tell I saw but got me paying attention to this slot right away.

[I Am Innocent]

Notice the not finding me scummy in that post...yet as soon as I start going after him he suspects me.

[I Am Innocent]

For the record I checked and it was actually an L-2 vote by kill on kirroha, not L-1, I stand corrected.

[RadiantCowbells]

We need two wagons, so unless you were to move to BBT or kill, you should stay put. Force replace ain't going to happen.

Kill dropped a scum tell. He is also playing very safe. Getting a wagon on him is near impossible which also gives me cause for concern.

But the biggest tell is the white knighting. Read the thread and see how many people suspected ink or myself of being scum:

Before we started attacking kill
And after we pushed for him

It is actually quite dramatic the difference.

Pretty sure he is scum. RC and implosion know my track record as town and since they both were among those white knighting kill I'll strongly suggest one of them is scum if kill flips as well. The fact neither are even listening to me causes me great concern too.

With that said tgal is acting scummy too. Why she hasn't replaced out or claimed is beyond me. She is not a bad 2nd choice.

I don't think BBT is scum.

When was I white knighting Kill ever? She's a scumread.

I'm more interested in BBT at this time though.

Define your track record as town. Pick out some games.

[RadiantCowbells]

We need two wagons, so unless you were to move to BBT or kill, you should stay put. Force replace ain't going to happen.

Kill dropped a scum tell. He is also playing very safe. Getting a wagon on him is near impossible which also gives me cause for concern.

But the biggest tell is the white knighting. Read the thread and see how many people suspected ink or myself of being scum:

Before we started attacking kill
And after we pushed for him

It is actually quite dramatic the difference.

Pretty sure he is scum. RC and implosion know my track record as town and since they both were among those white knighting kill I'll strongly suggest one of them is scum if kill flips as well. The fact neither are even listening to me causes me great concern too.

With that said tgal is acting scummy too. Why she hasn't replaced out or claimed is beyond me. She is not a bad 2nd choice.

I don't think BBT is scum.

When was I white knighting Kill ever? She's a scumread.

I'm more interested in BBT at this time though.

Define your track record as town. Pick out some games.

[I Am Innocent]

To Innocent: Now that it is clear that kirro is town, do you still townread RC-senpai for attacking kirro?

I am actually questioning my earlier town reads on both RC and implosion at the moment. Ink is my strongest town read and I really like his scum hunting efforts. You get ink to swing over to RC and I'll join both of you.

As for rubixxx I don't like how active he started being after I voted him and pointed out his lack of contributions. Still my lone vote isn't doing much there, so I'll move it, but want the group to know it isn't cause I feel any better about his slot.

Ink is totally right about the progression from story's scum to town read on kirroha. There was no natural progression I still don't know exactly what it was that changed it. Willing to join ink here.

unvote rubixxx
Vote killthestory

I'd vote IaI right now.

First time you mention me is shortly after I vote kill.

Look at our last completed game for starters. Implosion was in that too if u need a hint.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'll be here tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't chainsaw defend my scumpartners, I bus them.

I'd vote it over Taisho but it's still not as good as BBT.

[I Am Innocent]

Yeah I meant chainsawing not whiteknighting

[RadiantCowbells]

Nope, that ain't me.

[Killthestory]

bro all these scumreads made me cut myself

Image removed. -N

[Rubixxx]

BBT's limp body dangling from the noose.

You keep saying BBT's scum, but I don't see it. Could you please lay it out for me? I've been getting a pretty strong town tell on him, even when he was grilling the fuck outta me.

rc pls

[I Am Innocent]

Kill care to provide reads on every player?

[Killthestory]

Kill care to provide reads on every player?

i only provide reads on people i scumread

otherwise i hate readslist

[ink]

VOTE: Killthestory

[Killthestory]

trash tier yo

[Raskolnikov]

will post morning tired now

[implosion]

Yeah I think this is better than taisho. Idk I still get a gut townvibe from his early posting but his recent posting is pretty bad. I really don't know how to feel about bbt. It'd be nice if RC would say anything about why he suspects bbt but until then *shrug*. I think I prefer kill over bbt a bit.And either of them over taisho.

VOTE: Kill

2.5 days left is also starting to actually be a time crunch.