Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

[RadiantCowbells]

Super Mario Mafia:

Votecount #3.38:

Aristophanes (2): Amihan, Fire Starter
Fire Starter (1): Aristophanes
Firebringer (0):
Heat (0):
BlueTrin (0):
Ranger (0):
Frozen Angel (0):
Amihan (0):

Not voting: BlueTrin, Firebringer, Ranger, Heat, Frozen Angel

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Night falls in (expired on 2016-02-21 23:00:00).

Music:

Yoshi's Story: Title Theme

Notes:

Yoshi!

[Amihan]

I refuse to claim my role at this point, or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

But I will point out that me bringing this up prior to any indication of the other guilty proves this isn't just something affected by that. At this moment, the other guilty has already been claimed. Having me fullclaim is extremely anti-town as it gives scum more information on how to align their kill and any actions they might have.

In short this one guilty is strong enough: flavor is indicative of alignment, and Bob-omb is a Mario enemy. My role and all other town roles I've seen are not.

[Frozen Angel]

Your guilty says he is 100% scum ? (without thinking about any result changer roles)

I never asked you to role claim

[Amihan]

I refuse to claim my role at this point, or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

[Frozen Angel]

Answer my question its not even close to be considered as a role claim. How strong is your guilty ...

[Frozen Angel]

You need to answer this right now. You claimed a guilty and you want to stay mysterious about it. how should I think ?

[Aristophanes]

I refuse to claim my role at this point, or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

But I will point out that me bringing this up prior to any indication of the other guilty proves this isn't just something affected by that. At this moment, the other guilty has already been claimed. Having me fullclaim is extremely anti-town as it gives scum more information on how to align their kill and any actions they might have.

In short this one guilty is strong enough: flavor is indicative of alignment, and Bob-omb is a Mario enemy. My role and all other town roles I've seen are not.

I mean, I want a claim from you, so you don't slink away without providing anything having faked the guilty on me.

However, for now, I will settle for FA's question.
Ami, how strong is your "guilty" on me?
100%? 80%? 35%?

[RadiantCowbells]

Wow those votecounts!

So prompt!

said no one ever.

[Aristophanes]

Wow those votecounts!

So prompt!

said no one ever.

You've done a fine job snagging Pagetop at least! That's the important part!

[Amihan]

You need to answer this right now. You claimed a guilty and you want to stay mysterious about it. how should I think ?

You should think about whether you believe Fire Starter's guilty or not. It's equivalent to a cop guilty in this setup.

If it makes it any easier for you, pretend I didn't even claim at all. Because I will not be giving scum any more help with their action choices today.

[Frozen Angel]

Amihan claimed his guilty before FS but nearly in the same time with him

so there are 2 possibilities :

1 - both claims are fake and preplanned in this case FS is a flavor cop scum who said something so similar to Ari's role. But this question remains: how did he know that flavor is not someone else ?
2 - Ari is really scum and both guilties are correct. Ari delay in saying his flavor was like he was struggling to make anything fitting .

- Ami and Ari can't be scum together becuase there was no reason for claiming that guilty.
- there is obviously an scum between Ari and FS becuase the flavor thing.
- we're in mylo in worst situation not in lylo so we can go with no lynch and test the claims.

[Frozen Angel]

You need to answer this right now. You claimed a guilty and you want to stay mysterious about it. how should I think ?

You should think about whether you believe Fire Starter's guilty or not. It's equivalent to a cop guilty in this setup.

If it makes it any easier for you, pretend I didn't even claim at all. Because I will not be giving scum any more help with their action choices today.

you need to tell the strength of your claim. that has nothing to do with what FS said. The fact I beleive his claim or not has nothing to do with the fact that I like to beleive what you said or not.

now stop dodging it and say the strength of your guilty in a transparent way

[Frozen Angel]

he is scum

or he may be scum

what was your night action result

[Amihan]

Me claiming serves no practical purpose for town other than satisfying curiosity, whereas for scum it helps them decide after the Aristo lynch who to kill, roleblock, re-direct, or whatever actions they have.

You can't give credibility to Fire's guilty and still want more unnecessary information from me, because Fire's guilty is already conclusive on its own.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not satisfying my curiosity

I siriously beleive this might be preplanned or something so clarify.

FORGET FIRE GUILTY. how strong is yours ?

[Amihan]

- there is obviously an scum between Ari and FS becuase the flavor thing.

Again, this is why I'm not claiming. The mod has confirmed that flavor indicates alignment, and Fire found enemy flavor on Aristo.

That is a conclusive guilty on its own, unless you believe Fire is scum instead, and my claim is not needed to settle the decision.

I'm not claiming just because you want to know. Outing anything further about my role helps scum much more than it helps town.

[Aristophanes]

FA, just a point on your last post, FS as scum would know whether Bob-omb were in play or not because flavour is indicative of alignment, per RC.

Therefore, aas.scum, he'd know there was no Bob-omb on his team.

Holy ninjas...

[Frozen Angel]

Amihan stop being this bad.

you already said you have a guilty on him. so answer this : you know he is scum or you know he is probably scum ...

If we survive this lylo this might help sorting you ...

pedit : never play with me again. thank you

[Frozen Angel]

that was toward Amihan not you Aris

yes I know Aris

[Amihan]

I'm not satisfying my curiosity

I siriously beleive this might be preplanned or something so clarify.

FORGET FIRE GUILTY. how strong is yours ?

I refuse to claim my role at this point,

or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

And me revealing the "strength" of my guilty will not help you determine if this was pre-planned.

Instead, look at the posts around where we both voted Aristo. There would be no reason for me to softclaim a guilty, then him to post a full explanation of his guilty before I could clarify. If we were scum, these actions would chain us together unnecessarily, when instead we could have just planned for Fire to claim the incriminating flavor cop action so that if he was lynched as scum, it wouldn't immediately point to me being a partner.

[Aristophanes]

Okay, this shit is stupid.

Let's nolynch today, I'll blow up FS at night, and when it is revealed that I am town and FS is scum, you can all convene in the day and lynch Ami for this noncommittal shit.

How's that for a goddammit plan?

Ninja'd, this directly follows my last post.
I hate that I type so slowly on my phone

[Aristophanes]

that was toward Amihan not you Aris

yes I know Aris

You had me worried for a sec there Frozen!

[Frozen Angel]

Amihan use that fucking brain of yours please.

I'm not asking you to fucking role claim.

I'm just asking you to clarify what you already said.

Like what you fucking did in day 1 and still never talked about it.

pedit : its fucking mylo probably . all the scum chainsaw in mylos to just lynch a town and finish the shit. if you can't understand how your "I have a guilty but I won't talk about it" will hurt the town in possible following day(s) , well there is no hope left ...

[Frozen Angel]

Okay, this shit is stupid.

Let's nolynch today, I'll blow up FS at night, and when it is revealed that I am town and FS is scum, you can all convene in the day and lynch Ami for this noncommittal shit.

How's that for a goddammit plan?

this plan might work

But I won't loose a town flavor cop for no reason. Amihan can save this shit and she don't do any shit...

[Aristophanes]

I'm not satisfying my curiosity

I siriously beleive this might be preplanned or something so clarify.

FORGET FIRE GUILTY. how strong is yours ?

I refuse to claim my role at this point,

or say to what extent my Aristo information is binding as that reveals its strength.

And me revealing the "strength" of my guilty will not help you determine if this was pre-planned.

Instead, look at the posts around where we both voted Aristo. There would be no reason for me to softclaim a guilty, then him to post a full explanation of his guilty before I could clarify. If we were scum, these actions would chain us together unnecessarily, when instead we could have just planned for Fire to claim the incriminating flavor cop action so that if he was lynched as scum, it wouldn't immediately point to me being a partner.

This is exactly why you would do it!!!
Mylo so all you need is to secure a mislynch!
And making this extra wine let's you team up while defending it.