Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

[Flubbernugget]

I would rather mass claim tomorrow assuming a no lynch

[Flubbernugget]

However, if anyone would like to claim now I don't think that should be discussed until tomorrow.

Don't ask why if you can't figure it out

[Frozen Angel]

Ari I want a scum death tonight or your definetly going to get lynched.

Heat (and any other probable roles that can mess with this) don't dare to interrupt this .

If thats promised I'm agreed with a no lynch

[Aristophanes]

Ari I want a scum death tonight or your definetly going to get lynched.

Heat (and any other probable roles that can mess with this) don't dare to interrupt this .

If thats promised I'm agreed with a no lynch

100% down with this

[Fire Starter]

I don't like this at all. I feel like he's doing this for a reason and makese not want to no Lynch. This doesn't sit right with me guys. Will be home in about 5 hours, but then have a busy next couple days.

[Frozen Angel]

oO

[RadiantCowbells]

Super Mario Mafia:

Votecount #3.47:

Aristophanes (2): Amihan, Fire Starter
Fire Starter (1): Aristophanes
Firebringer (0):
Heat (0):
BlueTrin (0):
Ranger (0):
Frozen Angel (0):
Amihan (0):

Not voting: BlueTrin, Firebringer, Ranger, Heat, Frozen Angel

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Night falls in (expired on 2016-02-21 23:00:00).

Music:

Super Mario Galaxy 2: Beat Block Galaxy

Notes:

Don't fall!

[Frozen Angel]

FS who are the other scums?

[Frozen Angel]

do you think scum has a way to act like a vig? becuase thats the only way this won't work

[Fire Starter]

I'm writing up a thing now. Give me a minute. Or 10

[Frozen Angel]

I'm going to sleep

I see that tomorrow

bye

[Fire Starter]

FS who are the other scums?

Aristophanes, Heat, and FB. I feel like Heat is just misreading his role because I got a fucking result. If he isn't, then he's lying and is scum. Period.

do you think scum has a way to act like a vig? Because thats the only way this won't work

Yes. FUCK. How do I explain without revealing?

[Fire Starter]

I'm going to sleep

I see that tomorrow

bye

k bye.
type typing now.

[Fire Starter]

I'm going to try to do this as clean as possible but I don't have much time and won't be on after this, so literally, whatever you guys do it's out of my hands, but please don't fuck up. Try to read the game over and see what I see.

Let's start with today. At the start of the day Ami claims a guilty on Aristophanes. At the

exact

same time I too claim a guilty on him. I got the result of Bob-omb. Really weird timing with Ami, but do you really think that we would plan something like a fake claim better? Ami refuses to claim even after everyone's urging(even mine). Don't you think that if we were partners they would claim? Let's imagine for a moment I'm scum with Ami. Why the fuck would scum produce TWO guilties when one would do just fine? It could EASILY be countered by an actual town player(unlike Heat). That's fricken obvious. So look back and really look at whether I'm partners with Ami or if Aristophanes is more likely to be partners with Heat. Read the game and it should be obvious.

Aristophanes then claims he's Bombette. He admits to being a suicide bomber which fits perfectly with my result. Suicide bombers are scum roles. Can be town obviously but I have guilty and

thats

what he claims? He shouldve been lynched immediately.

Going back to Day 1. I thought FA was scum. I also wanted to test the lynchability of the role to make sure she was telling the truth. Stupid thing to lie about but easy enough to check. Didn't happen. Still didn't believe her to be town, so I investigated Night 1. I got back a Princess Peach flavor. Day 2 when FireBringer said he was nervous about FA, I came back and said "FA isn't scum". That's it. It was a clear statement that had no hidden meaning.

Back to today, Heat then claims he's a jailor and he jailed FA Night 1 so I couldn't have possibly targeted her. A jailor doesn't stop people from being targeted yet Aristophanes jumps right it at the aid of his scum buddy and argues that it does. It is proven otherwise and they look guilty as fuck, but Heat just looks stupid. But wait! There's more! Upon realizing he made a mistake in claiming the WRONG role, this happens:

If you jail kept me I could have been investigated. I wasn't

commuted

or anything *facepalm*

Heat that claim was so shit. you better have a good explanation.

Y'all are whack

My role says I

commute

the target.

o rly? You couldn't have said that first? So you claim commuter only

after

FA brings it up? BULL.

Summary:
Two guilties on Aristophanes. None on anyone else. I have no idea what the fuck Ami is doing or how they have a guilty and don't give a damn. I have a guilty and a shit ton of reason WHY they're guilty but alas, it's not clear to everyone. I'm not changing my vote. Do you guys see anyone jumping to my aid? No? Ami doesn't count because that was a separate claim entirely. Oh wait, I know why no one is agreeing and backing me whole heartedly, BECAUSE I'M NOT SCUM. But as soon as I get a guilty on scum, heat jumps in to defend. Then FB says he will lynch me basically for shits and giggles since there can only be one fire in the game. Heat and Aristophanes are scum, FB might just be dicking around but whatever, Aristophanes is guilty and needs to be lynched. Him AND Heat were BOTH on the Fragger wagon with Firebringer as well.



In addition to why we shouldnt no lynch, I'm going to claim. I'm Luigi. OH WHAT, NO COUNTERCLAIM? I'm a great investigator and ghost hunter and can gather objects from characters to give me their flavor. Night 1 I got the crown, n2 i got a windup key. And yes, the mod also told me to which character these items belonged. It was just for flavor.
My role also states that

IF

King Boo is in the game and targets me at night, I immediately die. I don't know if there is a King Boo in the game, I don't know if there would be restrictions on this character even if it was. The point I'm trying to make is that the mafia could get two town kills tonight and win.

I am against a no lynch. If it happens anyway, fine, I'm just hoping there isn't a King Boo.

[Ranger]

The problem with a no-lynch here and trusting Aristophanes to make a kill is how many things can go wrong:

1. If he is town, he could have his kill stopped in any number of ways. A lack of second kill would make him be lynched.
2. Worse, if he is town and he
   kills
   town, then it's game over: him killing town, plus scum killing town, equals scum outnumbering the town. We trade town majority vote on who to kill for a single player's instincts on who to kill.
3. If he is scum, he
   may
   not be able to prove the kill, but he could use the chance to put himself in a better position, especially with scumbuddies' help. He could either claim the above ("my kill failed!"), or he could claim his kill succeeded, and the
   scum's
   nightkill failed.
4. Worst of all is the possibility that he is scum,
   and
   he can make an extra kill.

All of these make a no-lynch sub-optimal.

[Aristophanes]

The problem with a no-lynch here and trusting Aristophanes to make a kill is how many things can go wrong:

1. If he is town, he could have his kill stopped in any number of ways. A lack of second kill would make him be lynched.
2. Worse, if he is town and he
   kills
   town, then it's game over: him killing town, plus scum killing town, equals scum outnumbering the town. We trade town majority vote on who to kill for a single player's instincts on who to kill.
3. If he is scum, he
   may
   not be able to prove the kill, but he could use the chance to put himself in a better position, especially with scumbuddies' help. He could either claim the above ("my kill failed!"), or he could claim his kill succeeded, and the
   scum's
   nightkill failed.
4. Worst of all is the possibility that he is scum,
   and
   he can make an extra kill.

All of these make a no-lynch sub-optimal.

Except for the fact that I'll be dead as well tomorrow when I blow up...

[Aristophanes]

FS, if you are town and fucked up on the flavour RC gave you, I will be extremely disappointed.

My points are as follows:
1. If I am mislynches today, we lose.
2. Even if I were scum, I'll be blowing myself up, leaving you with a scum flip tomorrow.
3. Either Heat or FS is lying. We will find out who when the two of us flip.
4. We are in Mylo and this is already a good time to Nolynch.
5. If we Nolynch today, tomorrow is Lylo whether I'm scum or not.
6. Probably something else but I'm forgetting things. There is literally no downside I can see to the NL plan. I will be dead. A scum member will be dead. The scum kill target will be dead. We will finally have info.
7. I almost forgot, make Ami claim tomorrow when I flip town, then lynch it for lying about the guilty on me.

(I have a crackpot theory that Scum!FS and Scum!Ami discussed claiming the guilty on me, and Ami misunderstood, thinking they were supposed to do it. FS then jumped in and Ami didn't have a fakeclaimable Investigative ready, thus their dancing around the claim so much today.)

[Fire Starter]

On that last bit, why would I not delete the post but instead do a pedit?

[Aristophanes]

On that last bit, why would I not delete the post but instead do a pedit?

That's why it's a crackpot theory...

[Fire Starter]

So you're scrambling for crappy scenarios in order to not be scum. Otherwise why mention it?

Either Heat or FS is lying. We will find out who when the two of us flip.

Can you expand on this?

[Aristophanes]

So you're scrambling for crappy scenarios in order to not be scum. Otherwise why mention it?

Either Heat or FS is lying. We will find out who when the two of us flip.

Can you expand on this?

I mentioned it as an aside. I thought of it like, 2 days ago, but I didn't mention it because I didn't feel like it. I felt like it now, so I did. Not really meant to be a hard case.

Expand in what way?
There is a clear dichotomy in the game and when I explode it will sort thus dichotomy.
Literally what we've been saying this whole phase.

Btw, your claim was bad...as in if you're town, it could lead to a swift defeat for us. I just wanted you to know that.

Also, on your claim, a question.
RC tells you what?
"Here is a tiara thing. It belongs to Peach" or just the "here's a tiara thing" part?
Because if you got the windup key and just assumed I'm Bob-omb without clarifying, I'll be sad.

[Fire Starter]

Expand in what way?

Expand on how either if I am scum, Heat is town and how if I'm town, Heat is scum.
Why is what I'm asking.

[Aristophanes]

Expand in what way?

Expand on how either if I am scum, Heat is town and how if I'm town, Heat is scum.
Why is what I'm asking.

Seriously, this should all be very straight forward by now.

Heat claims you could not have gotten a result from FA on N1.
You claim a result on N1.
One of you is lying, and thus is scum.

If I flip scum, you are town and Heat is scum.
If I flip town, you are scum and Heat is town.
However, if I flip town today, none of this matters as the game ends with a scum victory.

Why am I still having to spell this stuff out?
I'm fairly certain everyone gets it by now.

[Fire Starter]

You keep saying "if FS flips town" and "if I(Ari) flips scum".

If you were town, you would realize there is no possibility of either of these scenarios occurring as if you're town, them I would be scum. Therefore you should be making no arguments that I could flip town and that Heat could flip scum.

You're talking about your role from both sides, something only scum do to convince town players. As town, there is one possibility for me: I flip town and you flip scum. The end. There is no possibility ofe flipping scum and you flipping town. Ever.

The more scum talk, the more they slip.

[RadiantCowbells]

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