(1765) Star Wars: The Force Awakens [D5]

[Amihan]

I have a bad feeling about this...

Let me sink my teeth into Page One.

the fuck is pre-game talk?

Seriously?

Trollie is a 2012 account with modding experience. There's no way he doesn't know what pre-game talk is.

This. I'm unsure if this is scum indicative but it is unsettling. This isn't a newbie game.

Going back here:

That concept was in the latest PM. If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

I'm not sure it confirms anything regarding TheTrollie - in my eyes it's pure WIFOM atm.

Comfortable.


Same-wavelength. More please.


Who are you guys?


Not scum-reading, but not quite on the same page.


Uncomfortable.


Fist of suspicion.

That's a lot to go through on my phone but what stamds out is that I don't like the path he took early on to bring Trollie to "uncomfortable". It feels too weak to justify having Trollie in a different read tier, when everything that's been said by him on Trollie pretty much amounts to a null or indecisive read from his point of view. It's like Trollie is just there because others have expressed suspicion on him.

The problem though right now is I have nobody I'm seeing as town, yet I have potential-scum issues with multiple players. I don't like that ratio and if I'm already having trouble with my perception of the game state then that's a red flag.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Vote: Eagle

VOTE: Camn

Start talking, sweet cheeks.

the fuck is pre-game talk?

These are the first three posts in the game. Pre-game chatter was not mentioned prior to Trollie's post. He's obviously directly referencing the PM.

And why would the mod send scum a different day start PM from town? He'd probably just copy a full player list of names when PMing people. No extra effort.

This is really basic.

The mod also mentioned pre-game talk in his pm before trolllie posted. That's the post you missed.

Amihan is actually p town

I'm trying to figure out why she still feels off to me. :/

[Amihan]

The mod also mentioned pre-game talk in his pm before trolllie posted. That's the post you missed.

...yes. That is the point.

the fuck is pre-game talk?

I had to check what you all were talking about, and seeing as this is this only post I have no idea why everyone thought this was so scummy. It's a reasonable thought coming literally right out of the day 1 starting PM.

It's because everyone else got a PM with pregame talk in it so the first thought is that he didn't so he must be scum.

My post was in direct response to this.

Are you a hydra? I don't know what's supposed to be going on here.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

The only thing that makes me feel strange about trollie is the fact that he has been absent

PEdit: in the second post I said PM and meant post.

The mod said pregame in his post before the game started

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Everyone has confirmed.

Pre-game talk will last another (expired on 2016-02-21 22:31:53).

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-03-06 22:00:00).

There

[Aeronaut]

The Bulge, Venmar, TheLoneWolf, and TheTrollie all need to show up; three of them have literally posted once.

[Aneninen]

Auto-fos?
I'm shaking in my boots. God forbid I get an OMGUS "auto-fos" from scum.

That's a very bad idea.
Also, I can tell everyone one thing about this topic: I don't need that Map at all.

First off...it

might

be a bad idea. Actual townies will decide that, not you.

Hmm-hmmm-hmmmm...

Why is Snarky town?

Because I said so.

Okay. (For Day1. It won't be enough later, though.)

Umm.
Usually she's so blatantly scummy that I'm at the point where I've got her pinned as confirmed scum within pages of reading her post.
Besides the fact that she didn't immediately engage with me, she's been actually pretty towny, which makes me think that she's town.

Like... this is a strange answer. You were pushing her pretty hard not too long ago, and suddenly "she's actually been pretty townie", which is a great pallet of no information. I feel if one of them flips scum, we should really revisit this.

^^
That.

Keyser's 116–122 – these gave me town-vibes. (Besides, his scumplay was very different.) Good observations, too.
Although, I don't get your readlist; it doesn't seem to match your catchups.

Also, this should be answered:

I am not interested in your position at B, C or D. It is at position A (your original/natural reaction) that I found suspect.

And will you stick to A even after E, F, G, H, Q, Z, ß?

Time's running, I'm finishing this quickly:
Amihan's later posts are better.
Not sure what to think about Eagle.

[Keyser Söze]

Well it's usually better to be blunt to RC because that's really how he usually is;

The other thing I noticed is that RC didn't respond to most of these prods

, even though he later tried to say "Aero isn't really trying to sort me".

Yes, the interactions between you and RadiantCowbells have admittedly not been 'clean' - I see a game of tug-of-war (not, let-me-find-out-who-you-are:

HOWEVER

, this could be due to personality versus personality.)

Do you think we're both scum?

This did cross my mind (i.e scum theatre) - but I'm not going to push it.

@Key what is it that we're not on the same page about?

I will answer this tonight.

Could you share thoughts on key, pls?

He's kind of hard for me to read

atm.

Please quote any of my posts which you are finding "hard" to read.

I'm not a fan of Snarky voting Trollie earlier

TheTrollie's opening post was unsettling - I can see why/how SnarkySnowman voted.

I don't think he actually has that much confidence on either of his reads

It's page two, day one - I don't think this is alignment indicative (reads won't be strong).

and it reads like he's exaggerating them for the purpose of overselling it because this is RVS and that's what people do to be funny or personable. But even though the votes and reasons look like subtle trolling, at the same time it also feels like he's subtly testing the waters and framing it in a way such that he can choose to pretend either of them was serious and continue on from that later when they likely weren't at the time. The "takes 2 less votes to lynch me" line also points to this kind of scum-beneficial trolling.

I did not see the 'hated townie' as a scum-troll-gambit. Speaking from experience, town-SnarkySnowman does play with a sledge-hammer. I'll dip into his scum-meta later.

That's a lot to go through on my phone but what stamds out is that

I don't like the path he took early on to bring Trollie to "uncomfortable"

.

Show me where I have expressed TheTrollie as a 'comfortable'/town read? Please quote any of my posts which support your above opinion.

1 post + time = uncomfortable

.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Post != hard to read
Person = posts much and still nullish leaning town on him = not as easy to read

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Anyways the point wasn't that you're hard to read. I feel okish about you as town for the moment, I was trying to get reads out of ami and maybe a response that helped me baseline them for how they react so I could read them better

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Because atm I feel weird about them even though they look town to my brain

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Whatever. Screw it.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Whatever. Screw it.

I can't get words to come out of my mouth in a way that makes sense this morning

[Keyser Söze]

Although, I don't get your readlist; it doesn't seem to
match your catchups.

It was half read-list/half action-list.
"Comfortable" = they do not require my immediate attention.
"Same-wavelength. More please." = similar opinions expressed but require more input.
"Who are you guys?" = please post.
"Not scum-reading, but not quite on the same page." = good and bad. Require attention to figure out positions.
"Uncomfortable" = made a stink.
"Fist of suspicion" = require

immediate

sorting.

i.e they are

not

firm categories of me saying SnarkySnowman=town or RadiantCowbells=scum, but they do indicate alignment-leans.

Also, this should be answered:

I am not interested in your position at B, C or D. It is at position A (your original/natural reaction) that I found suspect.

And will you stick to A even after E, F, G, H, Q, Z, ß?

I will evaluate A, E, F, G, H, Q, Z, ß all individually and as a body

Anyways the point wasn't that you're hard to read. I feel okish about you as town for the moment,

I was trying to get reads out of ami and maybe a response that helped me baseline them for how they react so I could read them better

Well that's the thing -

engage me directly

, not via asking someone else for their read on me If you are expressing a position you should be able to defend/explain it. I'm going to dip into your town/scum-meta too.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Not you. I was trying to use you to read ami.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I use too many words

[TheTrollie]

The Trollie I know doesn't think that fast RC

fuck you too

Trollie is a 2012 account with modding experience. There's no way he doesn't know what pre-game talk is. Lone Wolf is probably his partner. If he did have meta with Trollie, I would expect him just to let RC know, not let him know and then vote him. Sounds like someone's getting a little too protective.

town

Trollie is a 2012 account with modding experience. There's no way he doesn't know what pre-game talk is. Lone Wolf is probably his partner. If he did have meta with Trollie, I would expect him just to let RC know, not let him know and then vote him. Sounds like someone's getting a little too protective.

literally 100% same thoughts as I had.

town

If that should confirm anything at all, it's that Trollie has NO access to any pre-game talks.

^^^
Still troubled with this...

.

Key

a Sedona, pls explain?

Gods I am hungover.
I will just assume for now that these 3 pages are totally irrelevant nonsense...but I will read them in a bit. After coffee.

A couple thoughts... This map-mechanic.
I haven't thought it through yet.... But it is kicking around in my head it might be worthwhile to stage an early massclaim of what the map does for us. To help whoever HAS the map decide on where to PUT the map.
Don't get crazy yet... I haven't really considered the ifs.

Anyway..I'll be back

The post just before this one (which was too long so i decided not to quote it) is where I realized i DO ACTUALLY know what pre-game talk is. I'm so much smarter than I give myself credit for

x t f 1 2 9 6 y 0 M

Right back at ya!

The hell is a vote count? Reck stop doing your job and do your job!

I don't want to vote anyone right now before I see a vote count but...
RC is town
Tails is probtown

EE & Aero could easily be scum

Suspicious of Snarky and Amihan

[RadiantCowbells]

Camn pls.

[TheTrollie]

Camn pls.

Is this for me? I'll talk about Camn whether it is or not:

I am going to say that I read Camn as town, but I can see some scumplay about his/her (ill check after i post this and note for next time) play, I just don't think its actually coming from scum motives. That may change as I get a better read. Keeping an eye out.

That's a very bad idea.
Also, I can tell everyone one thing about this topic: I don't need that Map at all.

First off...it

might

be a bad idea. Actual townies will decide that, not you. But if you really think so.. you shouldn't be talking about the details.

Secondly, sometimes scum lie.

3) Every role in the game has a special ability or modifier that activates if they have the Map.

Now, I absolutely do

not

want anyone coming in here saying what the map gets them...OR saying it doesn't get them anything. Yet. So stuff it. But note the inconsistency above.

camn

, 2 things:
(1) Noted, but there is not actually an inconsistency there.
(2) please tell me what the utility/meaning of "Now," was in that post. And yes I am serious. I am not sure what you meant.

[TheLoneWolf]

Because Camn's is RVS. Lone Wolf's is not. He went for the larger potential wagon that could protect Trollie.

That's a bit of stretch to be making but it could just be due to your inexperience

[TheLoneWolf]

Vigilante target #1: SnarkySnowman

[TheLoneWolf]

VOTE: Amihan
Pretty much everyone who claims town in the first two pages turns out to be scum, in my experience.

I have no observation like that, but this is the page top of the THIRD page, so NOW I can say that I'm town.

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Amihan and Aneninen confirmed not scum together, remember this future self.

[xRECKONERx]

TheTrollie (1): Tails
RadiantCowbells (2): TheLoneWolf, Extrapolated Eagle
Amihan (1): SnarkySnowman
Aneninen (3): The Bulge, camn, Aeronaut
SnarkySnowman (1): Amihan

Not Voting: Venmar, TheTrollie, Aneninen, Keyser Soze

Deadline: (expired on 2016-03-06 22:00:00)

[TheTrollie]

Amihan

pls convince me to join you on the SS wagon

[Amihan]

1. I am town
2. I am usually right